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Nationwide Anti-War Protests Planned on March 20th

Trotskylvania
02-03-2007, 02:41
Just found this at Infoshop.org. Looks interesting.

Nationwide Coordinated Protests on March 20, 2007
Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 01:51 PM PST
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On March 20, 2007, thousands of students and young people from across the United States will demonstrate against the unjust war in Iraq. Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) has called for a national day of action on the fourth anniversary of the war.

Please distribute far and wide.

For more info: http://march20antiwar.blogspot.com

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

March 1, 2007

STUDENTS FOR A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY

Nationwide Coordinated Protests on March 20, 2007
To Demand an Immediate End to the Iraq War

On March 20, 2007, thousands of students and young people from across the United States will demonstrate against the unjust war in Iraq. Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) has called for a national day of action on the fourth anniversary of the war.

The national call for March 20 reads: "We, students and young people here in the U.S., support the right of the Iraqi people to self-determination. We refuse to accept this new strategy to 'expand the military,' and reject any means the government may use to make these new troops materialize - whether through the implementation of a draft or the continued use of manipulative and deceptive recruitment techniques."

Thus far, 35 different campuses and groups have signed on to the call, including 18 SDS chapters, and the number continues to grow.

"It is time in this country that we as students get organized against this unjust war and occupation in Iraq. Four years at war is four years too long, and Iraqis are dying everyday because of it. We need to get organized and get out into the streets! The U.S. needs to end the war in Iraq and bring all the troops home now," says Kati Ketz of the University of North Carolina-Asheville SDS.

"The majority of the student body at the University of Alabama believes the war in Iraq is wrong, but until SDS formed, there was no way for them to voice their opposition. It's exciting that the South is getting organized against the war, that more and more students are taking a stand against injustices," says Chapin Gray, of SDS-Tuscaloosa. "Not only that, as part of a national student organization, our group feels like we are speaking and acting in unison with SDS chapters across the country, that we are part of something really powerful, that we are making history."

As the U.S. enters its fifth year in Iraq, there seems to be no end in sight. Bush has called for 21,500 more troops in the midst of vast unpopularity. This also includes a military recruitment benchmark of over 90,000 – with the majority of these recruits coming from the working class and youth. It is necessary to act now in our campuses and communities to bring this to an end.

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20070301135142717

This should be interesting. Hopefully, this will inspire more action on the grassroots level, and if we're lucky, force the new Congress to realize it can't pander to Bush so lightly.
Divanzahg
02-03-2007, 03:00
Well-intended, but pointless. Politicians never give a damn what the public thinks. All they think about is getting power and keeping it. Filthy bastards.
New Mitanni
02-03-2007, 03:31
Good to see the date's being announced early. It gives patriotic Americans enough time to organize counter-protests. That is, if they aren't already occupied laughing at and/or ignoring the children, the childish and the hate-America human ROMs who make up the noisy bulk of the participants in these exercises :p
Corneliu
02-03-2007, 03:33
Oh brother. Another one? This is nothing new.

Good to see the date's being announced early. It gives patriotic Americans enough time to organize counter-protests. That is, if they aren't already occupied laughing at and/or ignoring the children, the childish and the hate-America human ROMs who make up the noisy bulk of the participants in these exercises

Oh grow up.
Free Soviets
02-03-2007, 03:36
Good to see the date's being announced early. It gives patriotic Americans enough time to organize counter-protests.

man, i love right-wing counter protests. they always looks so lost, confused, and pathetic - all 12 people that show up. and they're always busting out anti-abortion signs, no matter what they are nominally counter protesting.
Divanzahg
02-03-2007, 03:38
Good to see the date's being announced early. It gives patriotic Americans enough time to organize counter-protests. That is, if they aren't already occupied laughing at and/or ignoring the children, the childish and the hate-America human ROMs who make up the noisy bulk of the participants in these exercises :p

"You're either with us or against us," right?

:rolleyes:
Free Soviets
02-03-2007, 03:38
Oh brother. Another one? This is nothing new.

neither is the ongoing abortion of a foreign policy.
Myrmidonisia
02-03-2007, 03:39
Let's see...all across the country. That means maybe a dozen will show up? The students around the United States just aren't committed to that much. If anything, the protests will see a bunch of geriatric children of the sixties filling out the crowds.
Corneliu
02-03-2007, 03:40
neither is the ongoing abortion of a foreign policy.

Sometimes I don't like it either but ya know what? I can't do much about it. Only thing I can do is vote and the election is not until 2008.
The South Islands
02-03-2007, 03:40
http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/front/meh.jpg
Divanzahg
02-03-2007, 03:42
man, i love right-wing counter protests. they always looks so lost, confused, and pathetic - all 12 people that show up. and they're always busting out anti-abortion signs, no matter what they are nominally counter protesting.

LMAO
Kinda Sensible people
02-03-2007, 03:43
Why is it that whenever protests for perfectly good causes are held, they get held by the radicals? Can't a group that doesn't make my skin crawl organize one of these things?

*grumps*
Divanzahg
02-03-2007, 03:45
Sometimes I don't like it either but ya know what? I can't do much about it. Only thing I can do is vote and the election is not until 2008.

Your choices in the election are largely limited to Bowl of Shit A or Bowl of Shit B. Both may have a slightly different smell, but both stink. Horribly.
Corneliu
02-03-2007, 03:45
Your choices in the election are largely limited to Bowl of Shit A or Bowl of Shit B. Both may have a slightly different smell, but both stink. Horribly.

Really? WOW!!!
Lacadaemon
02-03-2007, 03:48
man, i love right-wing counter protests. they always looks so lost, confused, and pathetic - all 12 people that show up. and they're always busting out anti-abortion signs, no matter what they are nominally counter protesting.

True. But for every 100 lame counter protests, sometimes you get comedy gold like the hard hat riot.

You have to admit, those counter protesters were damned effective, and certainly weren't confused, lost or pathetic.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
02-03-2007, 03:48
Ah, an SDS-thing. Whatever.
A couple-dozen campuses is hardly what I call nationwide, more like randomly scattered. Pointlessly spread-out. Effeminately thin.
(Is just jealous that there probably won't be anything going on at his campus).

I gotta wonder, though, how many people going to these are actually into the cause, and how many of them are like me and just think that large protests are fun?
Kinda Sensible people
02-03-2007, 03:49
You are not a true American patriot.

A true patriot fights for what's right for his nation. A war is never the right thing for any nation. A nation has every right to defend itself; to fight tooth and nail for its sovereign right to be free from oppression. The nation has a right to have a rich heritage backed by people who care about the true principles upon which the nation was founded; not on some fabricated tale of asinine BS made up by right-wingers attempting to discredit liberals who don't support unnecessary wars that see the death of valuable men and women who serve in the armed forces.

You don't understand what being a patriot means because you don't want people to use their patriotic rights to stand up for what they believe to be American values.

People make noise when they smell smoke and the smoke is nothing more than the clunky machine of war fuelled by the deaths of 3000+ American soldiers who enlisted to serve the nation and not the rich who benefit most from war, whether they be in big oil or other.

A patriot keeps his nation on the right path; a path that best serves all of his fellow countrymen and not just those who follow the same line of thought.

Don't feed the troll. It just encourages it.
Utracia
02-03-2007, 03:49
Good to see the date's being announced early. It gives patriotic Americans enough time to organize counter-protests. That is, if they aren't already occupied laughing at and/or ignoring the children, the childish and the hate-America human ROMs who make up the noisy bulk of the participants in these exercises :p

Uh... oh nevermind. There's no point respondng to this is there?

*sighs*
Kryozerkia
02-03-2007, 03:50
Good to see the date's being announced early. It gives patriotic Americans enough time to organize counter-protests. That is, if they aren't already occupied laughing at and/or ignoring the children, the childish and the hate-America human ROMs who make up the noisy bulk of the participants in these exercises :p

You are not a true American patriot.

A true patriot fights for what's right for his nation. A war is never the right thing for any nation. A nation has every right to defend itself; to fight tooth and nail for its sovereign right to be free from oppression. The nation has a right to have a rich heritage backed by people who care about the true principles upon which the nation was founded; not on some fabricated tale of asinine BS made up by right-wingers attempting to discredit liberals who don't support unnecessary wars that see the death of valuable men and women who serve in the armed forces.

You don't understand what being a patriot means because you don't want people to use their patriotic rights to stand up for what they believe to be American values.

People make noise when they smell smoke and the smoke is nothing more than the clunky machine of war fuelled by the deaths of 3000+ American soldiers who enlisted to serve the nation and not the rich who benefit most from war, whether they be in big oil or other.

A patriot keeps his nation on the right path; a path that best serves all of his fellow countrymen and not just those who follow the same line of thought.
Divanzahg
02-03-2007, 03:52
Really? WOW!!!

Well, it had to be said. You made it sound like voting actually makes a difference.
Kryozerkia
02-03-2007, 03:56
Don't feed the troll. It just encourages it.
Meh.

I rarely feed the troll. Plus I find him slightly amusing now that I no longer have MTAE to piss off.

I don't consider that remark trollish as it was just a reflection on the kind of simple-minded thinking that still exists.
Corneliu
02-03-2007, 04:00
Well, it had to be said. You made it sound like voting actually makes a difference.

If turn out was higher, it just might make a difference but when we have constent low turn out, we'll get candidates on the extreme. Not to mention, people do not care about the issues and know jack shit about who is representing them and that is if they know who their rep is.
Pschycotic Pschycos
02-03-2007, 04:05
This'll happen like every other.

They'll hold their protest. About 1/4 their number will counter. Fox will make fun of them.

And politicians will say, "awwww....isn't that nice? They think we care. How cute!"

Always the same.

Though I do wonder, what would WWII have been like with this much zealous protesting?
Corneliu
02-03-2007, 04:07
This'll happen like every other.

They'll hold their protest. About 1/4 their number will counter. Fox will make fun of them.

And politicians will say, "awwww....isn't that nice? They think we care. How cute!"

Always the same.

Hear Hear

Though I do wonder, what would WWII have been like with this much zealous protesting?

A whole different war.

BTW: Good seeing you again PP.
Trotskylvania
02-03-2007, 21:07
This'll happen like every other.

They'll hold their protest. About 1/4 their number will counter. Fox will make fun of them.

And politicians will say, "awwww....isn't that nice? They think we care. How cute!"

Always the same.

Though I do wonder, what would WWII have been like with this much zealous protesting?

Yeah, I know. Protests really don't have much impact. What they are is a good measure of the strength of public opinion on a subject.

If the anti-war movement really wanted to do something constructive, they'd join the IWW, and get jobs in major defense contractors, and then somehow get the workers to go out on a general strike. That'd get some attention, if you could pull it off.
Eve Online
02-03-2007, 21:16
I'll be at this one:

http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/
Jello Biafra
03-03-2007, 03:38
If the anti-war movement really wanted to do something constructive, they'd join the IWW, and get jobs in major defense contractors, and then somehow get the workers to go out on a general strike. That'd get some attention, if you could pull it off.Well...I suppose that could work, but we would hope that these people would actually be interested in organizing labor for other reasons.
Luporum
03-03-2007, 03:45
Jebus save us, New Mitty ,Corny, and Kimchi in the same thread!

Though I do wonder, what would WWII have been like with this much zealous protesting?

A whole different war.

Yeah, we might not have wrongfully imprisoned Asian Americans.
Kinda Sensible people
03-03-2007, 03:50
I'll be at this one:

http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/

I just got a call from Justin at Right on the Right, who is watching the C-SPAN coverage of CPAC today. They were doing a veterans’ panel, and COL Bud Day and Congressman Sam Johnson (R-TX) were participants. They both mentioned and endorsed the Gathering of Eagles to rousing applause from the CPAC attendees.

The word is still getting out!


So you can go to CPAC and use hate-speech terms for Democratic candidates with Ann Coulter? Sounds like good ol' biggot Rethuglican fun
Corneliu
03-03-2007, 04:01
Yeah, we might not have wrongfully imprisoned Asian Americans.

Indeed there is that but that wasn't what I was actually refering too.
Luporum
03-03-2007, 04:09
Indeed there is that but that wasn't what I was actually refering too.

What, like we may have lost WWII? :eek:

Sorry, but the motives behind entering WWII and the War in Iraq are so insanely different that it just made my fingernails dig an inch into my scalp.
Corneliu
03-03-2007, 04:15
What, like we may have lost WWII? :eek:

Sorry, but the motives behind entering WWII and the War in Iraq are so insanely different that it just made my fingernails dig an inch into my scalp.

May have been different but we lost over 400,000 troops during World War II. In Iraq, we lost just over 3000 in 4 years of fighting. You are right there is a difference. However, if we had mass media like we do today, there would be protests about the amount of troops we were losing PER DAY just as we are protesting 3100 dead in 4 years.

We can bicker about this all we want but the facts will not change.
Luporum
03-03-2007, 04:22
May have been different but we lost over 400,000 troops during World War II. In Iraq, we lost just over 3000 in 4 years of fighting. You are right there is a difference. However, if we had mass media like we do today, there would be protests about the amount of troops we were losing PER DAY just as we are protesting 3100 dead in 4 years.

We can bicker about this all we want but the facts will not change.

It was never about the amount lost, it was about the reason why they were lost. WWII was justifiable, Iraq is not. It's disgusting that your even measuring human lives by numbers rather than worth.

400,000 lives died preserving the free world from facism, while 3,000 died enforcing a selfish and half baked agenda.

How many were lost in Vietnam before we pulled out? 50,000?