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CreationWiki

Koroser
01-03-2007, 21:58
http://creationwiki.org/Main_Page

"...the self-organizing black hole of stupid," as Jim Downey put it. Go on. Have a look inside, have a good laugh...


Then weep for the stupidity of the word.
United Beleriand
01-03-2007, 22:04
http://creationwiki.org/Main_Page

"...the self-organizing black hole of stupid," as Jim Downey put it. Go on. Have a look inside, have a good laugh...


Then weep for the stupidity of the word.And weep I do... :( :( :(
Farnhamia
01-03-2007, 22:08
Ah, but I found a link to EvoWiki (http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Main_Page) on one of their pages!
Ultraviolent Radiation
01-03-2007, 22:18
Pseudoscientific websites have been around for ages, so this isn't really shocking.

If you can't understand science, just try to make others share your misunderstanding!
Lacadaemon
01-03-2007, 22:22
Why do you always have to log in damnit!

I was going to add important information about the loch ness monster, godzilla and king kong.
The Nazz
01-03-2007, 22:58
Not quite as funny as Conservapedia, but funny all the same.
Mentholyptus
01-03-2007, 23:26
I notice that, like Conservapedia, this site currently doesn't allow the creation of new accounts (I suspect heavy, heavy vandalism is the cause, though I can't see any evidence...they may have good mods). EvoWiki, on the other hand, is still open. Says something about the philosophies of the two communities, I think.


...And I had such great material for ninja edits! :(
Deus Malum
02-03-2007, 00:14
I notice that, like Conservapedia, this site currently doesn't allow the creation of new accounts (I suspect heavy, heavy vandalism is the cause, though I can't see any evidence...they may have good mods). EvoWiki, on the other hand, is still open. Says something about the philosophies of the two communities, I think.


...And I had such great material for ninja edits! :(

*expectant look* This I need to hear.
Arinola
02-03-2007, 00:15
I notice that, like Conservapedia, this site currently doesn't allow the creation of new accounts (I suspect heavy, heavy vandalism is the cause, though I can't see any evidence...they may have good mods). EvoWiki, on the other hand, is still open. Says something about the philosophies of the two communities, I think.


...And I had such great material for ninja edits! :(

I should probably warn you your sig is over the limit. The limit is 8 lines. Quotes count as five lines each. If you don't change it, a mod will. (Just a heads-up)
Snafturi
02-03-2007, 00:34
I wish we could carve off a little piece of the internet to banish all of the nuts to.
Farnhamia
02-03-2007, 00:37
I wish we could carve off a little piece of the internet to banish all of the nuts to.

The nuts can be entertaining, though.
Lydania
02-03-2007, 00:43
The nuts can be entertaining, though.

They should be restricted to .twit extensions only. That way, if we so choose, we can visit crazyland for a day trip.
Exomnia
02-03-2007, 01:08
They should be restricted to .twit extensions only. That way, if we so choose, we can visit crazyland for a day trip.

And we could watch them from our vantage point.
Deus Malum
02-03-2007, 01:10
And we could watch them from our vantage point.

Maybe have a couple of hotdog stands and some park benches up there.

And non-vegetarian food stands too...god I suck at being vegetarian.
Snafturi
02-03-2007, 01:17
Is abiogenesis even a word?
Deus Malum
02-03-2007, 02:30
Is abiogenesis even a word?

Yes. It's even a scientific concept. In the sense that it has previously been tested experimentally and found largely to be untrue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

Basically the formation of living matter from non-living matter. A related topic is spontaneous generation.
Kirav
02-03-2007, 02:37
:sniper:
When will these goddam creationists realize that Genesis is exacctly the same as every other Circum-Mediterranean creation myth, accept Evolution, and move on instead of corrupting the world with their right-wing Christian crap?
They have to face it, ITS NOT TRUE! Yet they continue to publish it, and claim, it engineer it through sermons. It's gotten so bad that the neigbors' kid beleives in it, and the neigbor is an ecologist!
Well, obliged to this forum for allowing me to vent that.
The Black Forrest
02-03-2007, 03:12
I like the fact you have to email a request to edit and that you can't edit pro-evolution stuff.

It's a crap site.

They claim that Piltdown was widely accepted. Maybe in England.

I like that Primatology has been excluded.

I also like clicking the anthropology link and end up getting to the "Creation" anthropology page.

The counter claims are pretty lame. Ahh well. Spreading weak information only serves to keep the science room clean of Christianity.
Mentholyptus
02-03-2007, 03:36
*expectant look* This I need to hear.

Something like:

"The data that scientists claim support the Big Bang theory of the universe's origin are inconclusive at best. For example, the BBT predicts a certain spectrum of cosmic microwave background radiation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Firas_spectrum.jpg
Data collected by the Cosmic Background Explorer, however, look like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Firas_spectrum.jpg
Look at how different those are! If the BBT was correct, the data from COBE would match the theory so closely that you wouldn't be able to even see the error bars on the graph, they'd be so small. But in actuality...oh. Shit."
Hamturwinske
02-03-2007, 03:42
http://creationwiki.org/Main_Page

"...the self-organizing black hole of stupid," as Jim Downey put it. Go on. Have a look inside, have a good laugh...


Then weep for the stupidity of the word.

Creationism has its own wiki?!? :eek: :( :mad: :headbang: :rolleyes:
Deus Malum
02-03-2007, 03:49
Creationism has its own wiki?!? :eek: :( :mad: :headbang: :rolleyes:

Stupid people need a place to congregate too.

Note: I don't hate creationists. I'm not even particularly opposed to the idea, but by creating a wiki and populating it with nothing but opinions and biased information, you're not furthering your cause AT ALL.

Just look at Conservapedia.
Mentholyptus
02-03-2007, 03:51
Stupid people need a place to congregate too.

Note: I don't hate creationists. I'm not even particularly opposed to the idea,

I do and I am. I have a problem with people hiding from the truth, and an even bigger problem with people hiding the truth from everyone else (or at least trying to).
Deus Malum
02-03-2007, 03:57
I do and I am. I have a problem with people hiding from the truth, and an even bigger problem with people hiding the truth from everyone else (or at least trying to).

look, i nkow where you're coming from. ip'm a physicist (to an extent) myself and i think that science currently supports evolution as the reason why we're here having this conversation. however, science itself can be seen as a matter of faith (not the logical, methodical aspects of science, but faith in the veracity of the experiment, faith in the results, etc.) and so the two aren't that dissimilar. and I also think I shoulnd't dictate what other people can and can't believe, no matter how much i feel its wrng for them to do so.
Mentholyptus
02-03-2007, 03:58
look, i nkow where you're coming from. ip'm a physicist (to an extent) myself and i think that science currently supports evolution as the reason why we're here having this conversation. however, science itself can be seen as a matter of faith (not the logical, methodical aspects of science, but faith in the veracity of the experiment, faith in the results, etc.) and so the two aren't that dissimilar. and I also think I shoulnd't dictate what other people can and can't believe, no matter how much i feel its wrng for them to do so.

But having faith in the results of experiments is reasonable, given the track record of success it's not illogical to distrust those results. Religions don't have any verifiable results that lead to practical consequences we can observe, so they're a matter of real faith.
Androssia
02-03-2007, 04:12
It is amazing the blindness that permeates our contemporary culture.

Our public schools are to blame for indoctrinating all of you into this utter hatred and revulsion for anything that contradicts your beloved hypothesis of evolution.

Of course, the reason the public schools churn out these Darwinist clones is because "Christian" ministers were so eager to compromise their faith and accept evolution way back in the 19th century. They will receive their reward.

You know how a lion becomes more vicious as it is wounded and close to death? I'd have to say that that describes the state of evolution in America.

Real science points toward a Creater of our world, not some mumbo-jumbo about species of animals evolving into new species. The idea is completely against common sense and the laws of science! Information can only come from information. Life cannot come from non-life. These are scientific principles that have been upheld in the laboratory. The sheer hate of the people who post here really opens my eyes to the depravity of the human race.
Mentholyptus
02-03-2007, 04:16
You know how a lion becomes more vicious as it is wounded and close to death? I'd have to say that that describes the state of evolution in America.
Right. Every single day, we gather more and more evidence of the fact that evolution happened for all of life's 3 billion year history on Earth. Every piece of evidence collected that's relevant to the field points to it. Not a single shred of real, peer-reviewed evidence against.

Real science points toward a Creater of our world, not some mumbo-jumbo about species of animals evolving into new species. The idea is completely against common sense and the laws of science! Information can only come from information. Life cannot come from non-life. These are scientific principles that have been upheld in the laboratory. The sheer hate of the people who post here really opens my eyes to the depravity of the human race.
I refer you to my post with links for evidence the universe is ~14 billion years old, and I refer you to your local high school/university/middle school to get a better understanding of what is and isn't science, and how evolution is one of the best-confirmed theories in the history of science, as well as the basic premise upon which most of modern biology is based.

Failing that,

www.talkorigins.org
Deus Malum
02-03-2007, 04:19
It is amazing the blindness that permeates our contemporary culture.

Our public schools are to blame for indoctrinating all of you into this utter hatred and revulsion for anything that contradicts your beloved hypothesis of evolution.

Of course, the reason the public schools churn out these Darwinist clones is because "Christian" ministers were so eager to compromise their faith and accept evolution way back in the 19th century. They will receive their reward.

You know how a lion becomes more vicious as it is wounded and close to death? I'd have to say that that describes the state of evolution in America.

Real science points toward a Creater of our world, not some mumbo-jumbo about species of animals evolving into new species. The idea is completely against common sense and the laws of science! Information can only come from information. Life cannot come from non-life. These are scientific principles that have been upheld in the laboratory. The sheer hate of the people who post here really opens my eyes to the depravity of the human race.

You are either depraved or good at sarcasm.
Greyenivol Colony
02-03-2007, 04:29
Surely the fact that Creationism relies entirely on an 'irrefutable' text makes the idea of creating a wiki on the subject redundant.
Mentholyptus
02-03-2007, 04:32
Surely the fact that Creationism relies entirely on an 'irrefutable' text makes the idea of creating a wiki on the subject redundant.

Apparently not if your wiki can only be edited by people who already agree with what's on it. :rolleyes:
Nothing but contempt for these people coming from this side of the Internet. I'm really just sick of hearing it from them, and I wish they'd just go away and stop bothering me and our political system.
Deus Malum
02-03-2007, 04:36
Surely the fact that Creationism relies entirely on an 'irrefutable' text makes the idea of creating a wiki on the subject redundant.

No, because it's not like people hand out that irrefutable text for free so everyone who wants to have access to it can have access to it. :rolleyes:
Hamturwinske
02-03-2007, 22:06
Real science points toward a Creater of our world, not some mumbo-jumbo about species of animals evolving into new species. The idea is completely against common sense and the laws of science!

:eek: Um...okay. What exactly do you mean by "real" science?
Deus Malum
02-03-2007, 22:11
:eek: Um...okay. What exactly do you mean by "real" science?

The "science" of the bibble.
Drunk commies deleted
02-03-2007, 23:04
It is amazing the blindness that permeates our contemporary culture. Tell me about it. Some folks are so blind to the facts that they think saying "an invisible man in the sky created all creatures as they are now about 6,000 years ago". Morons.

Our public schools are to blame for indoctrinating all of you into this utter hatred and revulsion for anything that contradicts your beloved hypothesis of evolution. Nope, public schools don't dwell on evolution much in order to keep the creationist crackpots from raising a big stink. Too bad. It would be nice if they went in depth about evolution and showed just how dumb creationist arguments are.

Of course, the reason the public schools churn out these Darwinist clones is because "Christian" ministers were so eager to compromise their faith and accept evolution way back in the 19th century. They will receive their reward. Yep, the reward will be that their teachings will remain believable while the creationists are doomed to dwindle into a small tribe of morons as more people realize that the facts support evolution.

You know how a lion becomes more vicious as it is wounded and close to death? I'd have to say that that describes the state of evolution in America. That explains why creationists have become ever more desperate to gain some respect for their crazy ideas. That's why creationists are fighting so hard. Because their ideas are dying out slowly and the morons who hold those ideas are getting desperate.

Real science points toward a Creater of our world, not some mumbo-jumbo about species of animals evolving into new species. The idea is completely against common sense and the laws of science! Information can only come from information. Life cannot come from non-life. These are scientific principles that have been upheld in the laboratory. The sheer hate of the people who post here really opens my eyes to the depravity of the human race.
Real science? Is that the science that's not peer reviewed? The science that relies on supernatural explanations, thus invalidating any claims it has to call itself science? Abiogenisis (life coming from non-life) has nothing to do with evolution. Creationists, being the dopes that they are, confuse the two separate theories.

People hate liars. People hate those who seek to teach lies to children. That's why people hate creationists.
Ifreann
02-03-2007, 23:05
Did you guys break the site already? Cos I get a 403 when I try to load the main page.
Deus Malum
02-03-2007, 23:16
Did you guys break the site already? Cos I get a 403 when I try to load the main page.

Haven't checked, but GOD I hope so.
Pure Metal
02-03-2007, 23:28
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache/1.3.37 Server at www.creationwiki.org Port 80


:(
Ifreann
02-03-2007, 23:34
:(

You guys had to go a break it before I could lol at the silly creationists.
Pure Metal
02-03-2007, 23:41
You guys had to go a break it before I could lol at the silly creationists.
no fair!! :(

It is amazing the blindness that permeates our contemporary culture.

Our public schools are to blame for indoctrinating all of you into this utter hatred and revulsion for anything that contradicts your beloved hypothesis of evolution.

Of course, the reason the public schools churn out these Darwinist clones is because "Christian" ministers were so eager to compromise their faith and accept evolution way back in the 19th century. They will receive their reward.

You know how a lion becomes more vicious as it is wounded and close to death? I'd have to say that that describes the state of evolution in America.

Real science points toward a Creater of our world, not some mumbo-jumbo about species of animals evolving into new species. The idea is completely against common sense and the laws of science! Information can only come from information. Life cannot come from non-life. These are scientific principles that have been upheld in the laboratory. The sheer hate of the people who post here really opens my eyes to the depravity of the human race.

lol good troll :p

either that or just very, very misguided. and wrong.

i like "life cannot come from non-life." not only is that amazingly scientificaly accurate (...) but more than that, before god farted out 'life', exacly what was there before life may i ask?

you do know that 'life' is little more than complex chemical reacions right? life = chemistry.



damnit i shouldn't feed the trolls...
Ifreann
02-03-2007, 23:48
damnit i shouldn't feed the trolls...

If you don't feed them, who will?
The Nazz
02-03-2007, 23:51
You know how a lion becomes more vicious as it is wounded and close to death? I'd have to say that that describes the state of evolution in America.

A snarkier person than me might point out that the killer instinct is an evolutionary trait. ;)
Deus Malum
02-03-2007, 23:52
no fair!! :(



lol good troll :p

either that or just very, very misguided. and wrong.

i like "life cannot come from non-life." not only is that amazingly scientificaly accurate (...) but more than that, before god farted out 'life', exacly what was there before life may i ask?

you do know that 'life' is little more than complex chemical reacions right? life = chemistry.



damnit i shouldn't feed the trolls...

S'all good, I think this is a classic case of troll-and-run.
Vetalia
02-03-2007, 23:52
S'all good, I think this is a classic case of troll-and-run.

It was patently well done. Personally, I think it might have a future as good copypasta.
Dakini
02-03-2007, 23:55
Why do I get an error when I try to go there?
Johnny B Goode
02-03-2007, 23:57
It is amazing the blindness that permeates our contemporary culture.

Our public schools are to blame for indoctrinating all of you into this utter hatred and revulsion for anything that contradicts your beloved hypothesis of evolution.

Of course, the reason the public schools churn out these Darwinist clones is because "Christian" ministers were so eager to compromise their faith and accept evolution way back in the 19th century. They will receive their reward.

You know how a lion becomes more vicious as it is wounded and close to death? I'd have to say that that describes the state of evolution in America.

Real science points toward a Creater of our world, not some mumbo-jumbo about species of animals evolving into new species. The idea is completely against common sense and the laws of science! Information can only come from information. Life cannot come from non-life. These are scientific principles that have been upheld in the laboratory. The sheer hate of the people who post here really opens my eyes to the depravity of the human race.

(leans back and gets out a hamburger)

This'll be fun.
Pure Metal
03-03-2007, 00:01
for all who now can't access it: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:PFx5dtNTcrMJ:creationwiki.org/+http://creationwiki.org/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&client=opera
Ifreann
03-03-2007, 00:03
for all who now can't access it: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:PFx5dtNTcrMJ:creationwiki.org/+http://creationwiki.org/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&client=opera

I mock the crappiness of their site. :)