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The first of March is EMO DAY! The day on which we must have "awareness" for emos.

Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_Injury_Awareness_Day#Self-injury_awareness)

There are many movements among the general self-injury community to make self-injury itself and treatment better known to mental health professionals as well as the general public. SIAD (Self Injury Awareness Day) which is set for March 1 of every year, is one such movement. On this day some people choose to be more open about their own self-injury, and awareness organizations make special efforts to raise awareness about self-injury. Some people wear ribbons to show awareness; commonly orange ribbons are used for this. Sometimes a red and black ribbon is used also.

I ay emos should get the dealth penalty for attempted suicide because they have shitty music.

Well, at least it's on March 1st and not the 4th... because that would be depressing.

Well, at least it's on March 1st and not the 4th...
Why is that?

Emos don't take part in attempted suicide, you stupid conformist. Just because we cut ourselves doesn't mean we are trying to kill ourselves. Self mutilation is nothing like suicide.

Ok, 1. Not everyone who SI is 'emo'. Some people actually do have a problem with SI, and they cut themselves for several reasons, the least of which is to get attention. They do it to escape, to try to feel something, to cover up one kind of pain with another. It is true that 'emos' do SI for attention, or as some kind of trophy. SI can be very addicting and it takes alot to stop cutting yourselves. SI is a serious problem and really I'd wish you guys would not joke about it and call it 'emo'.

http://www.coolnurse.com/self-injury.htm

A good website about SI.

Agreed, Wilgrove.

There are people who are genuinely depressed, and then there are emos.

And tomorrow it's "Gimme your Emu day" so pull out those old flightless birds & go see the UPS guy.

Ok, 1. Not everyone who SI is 'emo'. Some people actually do have a problem with SI, and they cut themselves for several reasons, the least of which is to get attention. They do it to escape, to try to feel something, to cover up one kind of pain with another. It is true that 'emos' do SI for attention, or as some kind of trophy. SI can be very addicting and it takes alot to stop cutting yourselves. SI is a serious problem and really I'd wish you guys would not joke about it and call it 'emo'.

http://www.coolnurse.com/self-injury.htm

A good website about SI.

How the hell does physical pain release oneself from mental pain? If anything, shouldn't it add to it?

Ahh "emos", highschools are overrun with em. To all you "emos" out there: Its not your fault. Your parents love you, go home and hug them. I promise you WILL grow out of this phase soon.

-snip-


I do believe you are going to get in trouble for trolling and spamming...you might want to edit those posts of yours

Hey, emos don't know what real depression is. They make people with real problems look like whiners. If they try to hurt themselves and take it a little too far then I think they deserve what they get.

[Edit]
From the makers of Tickle Me Elmo comes Tickle Me Emo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nRNYG_xM2U), Elmo's emo cousin.

How the hell does physical pain release oneself from mental pain? If anything, shouldn't it add to it?

Sometimes, one chooses physical pain over mental pain because they know how to treat physical pain, they can deal with it. They're less equipped to deal with the mental pain.

Hey, emos don't know what real depression is. They make people with real problems look like whiners. If they try to hurt themselves and take it a little too far then I think they deserve what they get.

[Edit]
From the makers of Tickle Me Elmo comes Tickle Me Emo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nRNYG_xM2U), Elmo's emo cousin.

Only dumb asses like you think that suicide and SI is funny.

Only dumb asses like you think that suicide and SI is funny.
I actually lived through it (I mean real depression and other stuff, the kind that gets you heavily medicated) so I think I have a right to make fun of it now. As I said, emos don't know what pain really is and make those who truly have serious problems look like whiners. That is why I don't like them.

Emos don't take part in attempted suicide, you stupid conformist. Just because we cut ourselves doesn't mean we are trying to kill ourselves. Self mutilation is nothing like suicide.

Yeah I dont agree with it all, and dont practice it anymore- but self mutilation is unrelated at all to suicide, and there are many many reasons why certain people do it. Its not nessicarily depression, its a very complicated issue. People just dont wake up one day and say "well, I've decided to give my arm, and maybe my leg, one hell of a thrashing with and axe today."

I actually lived through it (I mean real depression and other stuff, the kind that gets you heavily medicated) so I think I have a right to make fun of it now. As I said, emos don't know what pain really is and make those who truly have serious problems look like whiners. That is why I don't like them.

Oh really? so you didn't have the balls to deal with it without Drugs? real cool dude, way to sound like a total hipocrite.

Oh really? so you didn't have the balls to deal with it without Drugs? real cool dude, way to sound like a total hipocrite.

Not having the balls to deal with depression without drugs? Depression is almost impossible to deal with, even with drugs. To someone without it, you won't know how bad it id. I personally have never suffered from depression but know several who have. It's not a matter of having "balls". You have to get out any way you can.

Not having the balls to deal with depression without drugs? Depression is almost impossible to deal with, even with drugs. To someone without it, you won't know how bad it id. I personally have never suffered from depression but know several who have. It's not a matter of having "balls". You have to get out any way you can.


uh-huh, I dont agree with you, but anyway, my point was that he was took drugs to qwell is depression, is that really any better than self mutilation? even the ones you get by PX can be just as bad or worse as illegal drugs so dont gimme that safe bs. And so he could afford such a luxury, many people are to poor to be able to get themselves put an all kinds of medication for long periods of time, and just have to deal with it.

SI has nothing to do with being "emo", it has to do with self medicating.

You people are so........nevermind. :(

SI has nothing to do with being "emo", it has to do with self medicating.

You people are so........nevermind. :(

*hugs Smunkee*

Hey, emos don't know what real depression is. They make people with real problems look like whiners. If they try to hurt themselves and take it a little too far then I think they deserve what they get.

[Edit]
From the makers of Tickle Me Elmo comes Tickle Me Emo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nRNYG_xM2U), Elmo's emo cousin.

God I would fucking love to meet you in a dark alley.

Surely, whilst I concede emo has become excruciatingly fashionable, there must be those who do suffer depression? You would think so assuming you have that capacity.

I actually lived through it (I mean real depression and other stuff, the kind that gets you heavily medicated) so I think I have a right to make fun of it now. As I said, emos don't know what pain really is and make those who truly have serious problems look like whiners. That is why I don't like them.

I agree with you that Emos have made it hard for people with actual problems to be taken seriously, I've seen it myself back in High School, but I would never ever kid about suicide and tell people to go shoot themselves just because they annoy me, or that I think they're a bunch of whiners.

*hugs Smunkee*

I meant to address your post, thank you for jumping in with some compassion and intelligence. :)

I think people are being a little oversensitive about the topic.


When someone's "emo", they're not depressed. They pretend to be depressed, they listen to shitty music, and wear black all the time.

So when we diss "emo" people, we're not dissing depressed people, or those who actually had/have problems.



Even though I do find cutting to be a very stupid thing to do.

God I would fucking love to meet you in a dark alley.

Surely, whilst I concede emo has become excruciatingly fashionable, there must be those who do suffer depression? You would think so assuming you have that capacity.
He's saying that with a social group so bent on showing their 'pain', it makes people with real depression seem less worthy of attention and so more likely to slip through, unnoticed. At least, that what I got. A couple of my friends used to cut themselves because it was cool, made out like they had real problems when I knew for a fact that they were doing it to be noticed and to gain some form of respect in our backwards little group.

You can't deny that with every trend you get many, many retards. The broad, ill-defined boundaries of emo just seem to encompass a lot more, and with a prerequisite seemingly suggesting you have to be misunderstood, you're gonna get a load of attention-seeking pricks who do this shit to be in. It detracts from people with real problems.

He's saying that with a social group so bent on showing their 'pain', it makes people with real depression seem less worthy of attention and so more likely to slip through, unnoticed. At least, that what I got. A couple of my friends used to cut themselves because it was cool, made out like they had real problems when I knew for a fact that they were doing it to be noticed and to gain some form of respect in our backwards little group.

You can't deny that with every trend you get many, many retards. The broad, ill-defined boundaries of emo just seem to encompass a lot more, and with a prerequisite seemingly suggesting you have to be misunderstood, you're gonna get a load of attention-seeking pricks who do this shit to be in. It detracts from people with real problems.

I do appreciate that, fully. It is the blanket statements that follow, generally in the form of "Ha bloody ha, aren't we better than them, bloody posers the lot of them", that vex. I've sufferede with mild depression for a year or more, and I wear skinny jeans, however, do I make a scene (pun not intended) about it? no.

It is true that 'emos' do SI for attention

Really?

How do you know that?

I think people are being a little oversensitive about the topic.


When someone's "emo", they're not depressed. They pretend to be depressed, they listen to shitty music, and wear black all the time.

So when we diss "emo" people, we're not dissing depressed people, or those who actually had/have problems.



Even though I do find cutting to be a very stupid thing to do.

when someone starts a thread about a day where a real issue is addressed, and decides it's "not important enough to talk about, let's just decide everyone who suffers is emo" I take that personally.

SI has nothing to do with whatever trendy thing is going on now, it's a real problem and it has been for a long time, long before most of you were aware of it.

when someone starts a thread about a day where a real issue is addressed, and decides it's "not important enough to talk about, let's just decide everyone who suffers is emo" I take that personally.

SI has nothing to do with whatever trendy thing is going on now, it's a real problem and it has been for a long time, long before most of you were aware of it.

I wasn't aware it was an actual day, but okay. Emos have nothing to do with SI day, then.

Actually, I do remember someone from school cut himself. We asked him why and he said it was "so I don't have to cut the guy next to me" or something. He never claimed to be depressed though. I guess it was just to release some kind of stored-up anxiety or anger? We later found out that he'd stopped cutting himself because "it hurt too much".

Really?

How do you know that?

I'd like to know how he came to that conclusion also.

I'd like to know how he came to that conclusion also.

Because, by definition, an "emo" is a fake depressed person who treats it as a fashion statement and a way to be different, rather than because they actually have problems.

If he did it for any other reason, the guy wouldn't be emo. Simple as that.

by definition, an "emo" is a fake depressed person who treats it as a fashion statement

That sounds much more like an attack than a definition.

I wasn't aware it was an actual day, but okay. Emos have nothing to do with SI day, then.

that's my point.

That sounds much more like an attack than a definition.

Well let's look at it this way, Mr. Defensive:


1. Are you cutting yourself? [] Yes [] No

2. Are you truly depressed and/or mentally afflicted in such a way that would warrant such behavior? [] Yes [] No


If your answer for 1 was yes, but your answer for 2 was no, then you are an emo, and you're an asshole and you're just doing it for the attention, making it harder for people to take depression seriously.

That was an attack, but it was also true.

Get it?

I think SI no matter whether it's genuine depression,or the 'emo' trend where it has become fashionable, means that people do need help overcoming it. Because of course people who do it to try and deal with mental pain are different to the 'emo' groups, but even if it is sheely attention seeking or trying to fit in with the right group, then there still must be something wrong if to feel that they have to SI to fit in with the group or be 'cool' because I don't know about you, but I wouldn't cause myself physical pain, no matter how much attention I got from it. So even the so-called attention seekers need some sort of help, because it's just not-normal to cut yourself for attention, and although it is different from serious depression it still suggests that these people have some sort of insecurity or depression feelings if they are willing to do that to themselves for 'attention'.

1. Are you cutting yourself? [] Yes [] No

No, but that's really none of your business.

2. Are you truly depressed and/or mentally afflicted in such a way that would warrant such behavior? [] Yes [] No

What does this question even mean?

By what standard do you judge whether or not the behavior is warranted?

If your answer for 1 was yes, but your answer for 2 was no, then you are an emo,

Again, it seems to me that this is not a very good definition.

Can not people who identity with "emo" culture also be "depressed and/or mentally afflicted" in a way that according to your standards warrants such behavior?

Are there not people who identify with "emo" culture who do not engage in such activities?

when someone starts a thread about a day where a real issue is addressed, and decides it's "not important enough to talk about, let's just decide everyone who suffers is emo" I take that personally.

SI has nothing to do with whatever trendy thing is going on now, it's a real problem and it has been for a long time, long before most of you were aware of it.

I agree Smunkee, and I take offense to the OP calling everyone who does SI "emo", mainly because it hits close to home for me, and I know people who I love and care about who were former SI, and God knows they didn't do SI for joy and excitement, they did it because of what was going on in their personal life. They're not proud of it, in fact one of my friend wears a hoodie all the time to cover up her scars, I don't pretend to know why they did it, and I probably never will, but they're still my friends and I still love and care about them. If you jackasses still think that it's funny, then screw you.

No, but that's really none of your business.



What does this question even mean?

By what standard do you judge whether or not the behavior is warranted?



Again, it seems to me that this is not a very good definition.

Can not people who identity with "emo" culture also be "depressed and/or mentally afflicted" in a way that according to your standards warrants such behavior?

Are there not people who identify with "emo" culture who do not engage in such activities?

*sigh* You're not getting it. You're assuming that I associate people who SI and those with depression disorders with "emo" - I don't. They're entirely different types of people.

I'm not sure how many times I have to explain this: if you are "depressed and/or mentally afflicted" then you're not emo. End of story.

They don't identify with "emo culture" because they trancend it. They are what emo culture pretends to be, and they're not assholes because of it.

I remember one time in my life where I was depressed enough to cut myself. And I did. Then I was depressed, pissed, bleeding and in pain for the next three hours. It sucked ass. Anybody care to explain how SI helps?

I remember one time in my life where I was depressed enough to cut myself. And I did. Then I was depressed, pissed, bleeding and in pain for the next three hours. It sucked ass. Anybody care to explain how SI helps?

most people will never understand, because thankfully they will never be in a situation where SI is actually therapeutic. I lived for a long time in a home situation where the only way I could survive was to shut off all emotion, except that doesn't work, and so to keep from feeling the things I needed and had a right to feel, I would abuse drugs, and then every once in a while the pain got to be too much, but I didn't have any coping skills for that, so I would cut myself, and it felt good, that pain felt good. It was a way for me to have control over a situation that I had no control over, it was a way for me to feel pain on my terms, and a way for me to cope with things that nobody should have to deal with.

I am glad you guys don't "get it" because it means you probably have had a marginally normal life (that's not to say you haven't been depressed or had bad things happen to you), but I am not okay with you* guys making fun of SI, and taking an awareness day, that's sole purpose is to remove the stigma of SI so that people can reach out for help, and make it into a joke.

*that's the general you

Heh, they get a funeral why should they have 2 days?
Selfish bastards.

is self harm a fairly new thing because I cant rember it being around when I where a lad

is self harm a fairly new thing because I cant rember it being around when I where a lad

No, but communal hate-wanks for emo's are a fairly common thing here on NSG. They tend to occur every month or so. It's like the flu, only it occurs monthly, there's no vaccination for it, and nothing really changes between the strains.

The first of March is EMO DAY! The day on which we must have "awareness" for emos.

Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_Injury_Awareness_Day#Self-injury_awareness)

Self-Injury =/= emo

Sel Appa = fail

is self harm a fairly new thing because I cant rember it being around when I where a lad

it's been around for a long time, it's been talked about more recently, which is both good and bad.