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Bomb near Soccer field kills 18 boys

Corneliu
27-02-2007, 19:34
AT LEAST 18 IRAQI BOYS KILLED AS CAR BOMB EXPLODES NEAR SOCCER FIELD

This makes me sick and people wonder why I'm all for killing the terrorists on the spot.

Victims, all boys, playing on soccer field in Ramadi (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,254860,00.html)
Seathornia
27-02-2007, 19:36
Well, maybe because you provide no sources?

edit - thanks
LiberationFrequency
27-02-2007, 19:38
I saw one video where soldiers were shot at, after the fire stoped they went into to that direction and arrested the first guy they found. You think that guy should have been shot?
Admiral Canaris
27-02-2007, 19:40
AT LEAST 18 IRAQI BOYS KILLED AS CAR BOMB EXPLODES NEAR SOCCER FIELD

This makes me sick and people wonder why I'm all for killing the terrorists on the spot.

No. We must rehabilitate them. You know. Therapy. Send them on a sailing event to the Carribeans. Swimming with dolphins and stuff.
Luporum
27-02-2007, 19:40
Please. (http://www.nintendo-universe.com/images/Link-NES.gif)
New Granada
27-02-2007, 19:42
We can't pull out of Iraq because then the terrorists would be able to do whatever they wanted there :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sunnis would kill shiites, shiites would kill sunnis!
Gift-of-god
27-02-2007, 19:42
Here is a link for those who would like to read the story.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/2/28/worldupdates/2007-02-27T223331Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_-289398-2&sec=Worldupdates

It's a good thing the USA has declared victory in Iraq. I would not like to see what defeat looks like.
Seathornia
27-02-2007, 19:44
Would you advocate killing murderers on the spot too? I mean, that is what these people are - Mass murderers.

Except, those 18 boys weren't, but suppose it was a 19th boy and you suspected him of having done that, would you shoot him on the spot?

What if there was a 20th boy who'd really done it and the 19th boy was innocent? Woops, you just killed the 19th boy because you shot him on the spot rather than carrying out a criminal investigation.

This is why shooting terrorists on the spot is bad - Innocent until proven guilty. And yeah, it's perfectly possible for a suspected terrorist to be innocent, just like its possible for him to be guilty.

But you do Not shoot them on the spot.
Corneliu
27-02-2007, 19:47
Would you advocate killing murderers on the spot too? I mean, that is what these people are - Mass murderers.

Yes but a murderer deserves a trial. Those who target innocent children with a car bomb deserves to die on the spot.
Luporum
27-02-2007, 19:47
You really have to wonder how much things have improved since Saddam was overthrown.
Admiral Canaris
27-02-2007, 19:50
We can't pull out of Iraq because then the terrorists would be able to do whatever they wanted there :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sunnis would kill shiites, shiites would kill sunnis!
Yes. At least the attacks now are just isolated incidents. Imagine things like these happening on a daily basis.:p
Seathornia
27-02-2007, 19:53
Yes but a murderer deserves a trial. Those who target innocent children with a car bomb deserves to die on the spot.

Incorrect - a murderer can also have murdered an innocent child.

The reason why we give trials is not to establish punishment, it's to establish guilt. As such, suspected terrorists should be given trials too because, get this...

...They might be innocent :eek:
Corneliu
27-02-2007, 19:54
pieces of Sunni Shiites everywhere... the smell... oh god the smell... :p

LMAO!!!!
Rhaomi
27-02-2007, 19:54
Yes. At least the attacks now are just isolated incidents. Imagine things like these happening on a daily basis.:p
Actually, you've got it backwards. Iraq under Saddam, while repressive, was relatively stable and predictable. Now it is unmitigated chaos. Why else have hundreds of thousands (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2626738&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312) fled the country?
JuNii
27-02-2007, 19:55
Sunnis would kill shiites, shiites would kill sunnis!pieces of Sunni Shiites everywhere... the smell... oh god the smell... :p
Fassigen
27-02-2007, 20:06
This makes me sick and people wonder why I'm all for killing the terrorists on the spot.

I don't "wonder" about it at all. I just dismiss it as the risible nonsense that it is.
Nodinia
27-02-2007, 20:17
Actually, you've got it backwards. Iraq under Saddam, while repressive, was relatively stable and predictable. Now it is unmitigated chaos. Why else have hundreds of thousands (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2626738&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312) fled the country?


Two million, mostly in Jordan and Syria, apparently. The US has agreed to take in 7,000 which was nice of them. I presume they would have taken more if they could have found some who hadnt hadn't had a friend or family member killed by them.
Nodinia
27-02-2007, 20:19
AT LEAST 18 IRAQI BOYS KILLED AS CAR BOMB EXPLODES NEAR SOCCER FIELD

This makes me sick and people wonder why I'm all for killing the terrorists on the spot.



.....because your lot are as bad and you support the Israelis....However -

"Confusion over Iraq soccer blast
There are confusing reports about at least one explosion in the western Iraqi city of Ramadi.
Iraqi officials said 18 people, most of them children, had been killed in a blast near a football pitch.

Later an American spokesman told Reuters news agency that US forces had carried out a controlled explosion in Ramadi, also close to a football field.

The official said there were injuries, but no deaths. It is not clear if both reports refer to the same incident.

Iraqi police said most of the victims were aged 10 to 15 and had gathered to play football when a bomb went off.

But US military spokesman Jeff Pool said he was unaware of a bomb attack in the city. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6401839.stm
Aust
27-02-2007, 20:28
Yes but a murderer deserves a trial. Those who target innocent children with a car bomb deserves to die on the spot.

Far from the fact that the death penilty is a barbaric and ineffective punishment, how would you be sure they wehre terrorists?
United Beleriand
27-02-2007, 20:36
Far from the fact that the death penilty is a barbaric and ineffective punishment, how would you be sure they wehre terrorists?how is death an ineffective punishment? the punished won't commit crimes anymore. i call that effective.
LiberationFrequency
27-02-2007, 20:37
how is death an ineffective punishment? the punished won't commit crimes anymore. i call that effective.

Death at the hands of the enemy = martydom to Islamic Fundamentalists its praise worthy and encourages more people to join the cause.
Aust
27-02-2007, 20:41
how is death an ineffective punishment? the punished won't commit crimes anymore. i call that effective.

So you kill more people. Great. But it is no mroe of a deterance than anything else and all it does is legitamise killing. besides these idiots are prepared to die anyway, it'd be far crueler to lock them up and stop them from going to allah.
Kryozerkia
27-02-2007, 20:44
how is death an ineffective punishment? the punished won't commit crimes anymore. i call that effective.

How is it effective if the accused was sentenced on flimsy evidence? If the accused who was executed was later pardoned because it was found that the evidence that found him guilty pointed to another individual?

And welcome back, Cornileu.