NationStates Jolt Archive

If your nation was RL and actually interacted with real nations like America, Audia Arabia and such what would you do in the world and who would you declare war with?

I'd take over the world, courtesy of a standing army larger than most countries' populations.

I'd play as the "cop nation", I'd be hegemony that no one likes because I'd try to keep EVERYONE in line with my large FT army.

With a 4.4 bn population? Cutting edge technology and compulsory military service? I'd do anything I wanted to.

National motto "Forever Just". Give me a year, and the world would be a much better place.

Vetalia is an entirely mechanized nation comprised of sentient robots, computers, cyborgs, and quadrillions of nanobots that serve as the economic base for our needs. We're effectively a true post-Singularity civilization; there are biologicals that live here and they receive equal rights as other citizens, and everyone is free to pursue their own beliefs and interests as long as they don't threaten our scientific or technological progress. Spiritual transhumanism and techno-utopianism are our official philosophies along with a Deist conception of God as the Supreme Mind.

We don't really plan to attack or harm anyone unless they threaten us. We don't really need food (we produce more than enough in urban agriculture for our biologicals' needs, and the cyborgs and robots simply need electricity that is translated by their processors to taste, appear, and feel like food), water is produced by our fusion and desalinization plants, we need no fossil fuels, silicon is plentiful or is imported from our colonies in the asteroid belt and Mars, and we generate our energy from fusion and renewable sources, and we prefer to expand in to space and seed colonies on other worlds and solar systems than fight on Earth.

So, in other words, we're not militaristic although we do maintain a large army, air/space forces, and naval forces to defend our interests.

I'd invade America and install a parliamentary system.

Everyone. It's an authoritarian, totalitarian theocracy. Anyone who doesn't follow the exact codex of Malum must be brought within the sway of His Dark Majesty, or crushed under our heels for their heresy.

I really need to get around to setting up an entry on NSWiki, but I can't for the life of me work the controls.

Vetalia is an entirely mechanized nation comprised of sentient robots, computers, cyborgs, and quadrillions of nanobots that serve as the economic base for our needs. We're effectively a true post-Singularity civilization; there are biologicals that live here and they receive equal rights as other citizens, and everyone is free to pursue their own beliefs and interests as long as they don't threaten our scientific or technological progress. Spiritual transhumanism and techno-utopianism are our official philosophies along with a Deist conception of God as the Supreme Mind.

We don't really plan to attack or harm anyone unless they threaten us. We generate our energy from fusion and renewable sources, and we prefer to expand in to space and seed colonies on other worlds and solar systems than fight on Earth.

South Lizasauria even though it is a galactic empire (like a paranoid fascist version of the British empire only in space) with multiple alien races the humans who left earth in fear and joined South Lizasauria have harsh feelings toward earth so many humans in government want to eradicate all "injustice" and make earth a better place through force.

I would simply try to improve the quality of life as much as possible for my citizens, war really doesn't comply with that goal.

Yeah, we'd probably end up fighting each other in space. The inherent nature of our civilization requires extreme amounts of personal and informational freedom, so anyone who tries to restrict that freedom unfortunately isn't going to get a friendly reception.

LOL Lets RP this in international incidents when we're not so busy. :D

South Lizasauria even though it is a galactic empire (like a paranoid fascist version of the British empire only in space) with multiple alien races the humans who left earth in fear and joined South Lizasauria have harsh feelings toward earth so many humans in government want to eradicate all "injustice" and make earth a better place through force.

Yeah, we'd probably end up fighting each other in space. The inherent nature of our civilization requires extreme amounts of personal and informational freedom, so anyone who tries to restrict that freedom unfortunately isn't going to get a friendly reception.

Well my economy is frightening and is led by the arms manufacturing industry. Adding to that that my population is over a billion and a half times higher than the rest of the world combined, my nation can pretty much do whatever the hell it wants.

Audia Arabia

I'd ask them about Dolby Surround.

I'd ask them about Dolby Surround.

That spelling error can make a good nation name *considers whether or not to make another account*

Defend the Free World from those who want to destroy it. Basically, I would take out Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria with one blow. Then work over China and North Korea and completely isolate Cuba.

Defend the Free World from those who want to destroy it. Basically, I would take out Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria with one blow. Then work over China and North Korea and completely isolate Cuba.

Well as the cop nation I'd help. But I'd police everyone else including the free world as well.

I think we'd be begging the international community to help us recover from our current economic struggle. (My economy somehow started going into the toilet and is only now recovering.)

I'd prefer my PIcaRDMPCia nation to be the real life nation, though. It's a place with an even better economy than the U.S. but with much better healthcare, education, civil and political rights, and all that neat jazz. It's a great place, and I'd move there in a heartbeat.

Corny: So, in other words, you'd act like a buffoon and start interfering in the sovereignty of other nations? Expect a boatload of sanctions and refusal to trade from Kyronea/PIcaRDMPCia, as well as aid sent to the countries you invade.

I think we'd be begging the international community to help us recover from our current economic struggle. (My economy somehow started going into the toilet and is only now recovering.)

I'd prefer my PIcaRDMPCia nation to be the real life nation, though. It's a place with an even better economy than the U.S. but with much better healthcare, education, civil and political rights, and all that neat jazz. It's a great place, and I'd move there in a heartbeat.

Corny: So, in other words, you'd act like a buffoon and start interfering in the sovereignty of other nations? Expect a boatload of sanctions and refusal to trade from Kyronea/PIcaRDMPCia, as well as aid sent to the countries you invade.

You have a problem...

If both of my nations combined into one, I'd have a kick ass military and superior technology. I'm a self-sustaining nation and thus would not need trade to sustain my economy.

As to interfering with soveriegnty, the nations targeted by us have been causing big problems in the neighborhood and I will not use half measures to accomplish my goal either.

I think we'd be begging the international community to help us recover from our current economic struggle. (My economy somehow started going into the toilet and is only now recovering.)

I'd prefer my PIcaRDMPCia nation to be the real life nation, though. It's a place with an even better economy than the U.S. but with much better healthcare, education, civil and political rights, and all that neat jazz. It's a great place, and I'd move there in a heartbeat.

Corny: So, in other words, you'd act like a buffoon and start interfering in the sovereignty of other nations? Expect a boatload of sanctions and refusal to trade from Kyronea/PIcaRDMPCia, as well as aid sent to the countries you invade.

Hegemony baby! MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have a problem...

If both of my nations combined into one, I'd have a kick ass military and superior technology. I'm a self-sustaining nation and thus would not need trade to sustain my economy.

As to interfering with soveriegnty, the nations targeted by us have been causing big problems in the neighborhood and I will not use half measures to accomplish my goal either.

Okay, look, I can vaguely see where you could be coming from with Saudi Arabia and Syria, as both mess with many other nations illegaly and Saudi Arabia practices horrible business ethics. Iran is a maybe, and only if they actually fund terrorist organizations, which I still don't believe they do considering the feelings of the general Iranian populace. Even there you should settle something like that diplomatically.

But China, North Korea, and especially Cuba?! None of them have been doing anything to anyone other than their own country recently! At most China merely rattles swords in Taiwan's face and that's just for show, and don't forget that China is integral to the economies of most of Europe and the United States, and probably a few of our NS nations come to life as well. North Korea waves a gigantic nuclear tipped dick in everyone's faces but they're backing down even now from that. And Cuba? What the hell has Cuba ever done to anyone? They're a communistic nation, sure, but that doesn't make them evil.

Fact is, the only one I'd even consider potentially invading on your list in Saudi Arabia, and even there I'd practice a damned lot of diplomacy first before considering military action. All you will do is destroy the quality of life of millions of people who don't deserve any of it whatsoever, and for what? To "protect" the "ree world? You invade any one of these countries--especially China--and you'll have a huge problem from the nations you're trying to "protect"!

South Lizasauria: Quiet, you. :p

Okay, look, I can vaguely see where you could be coming from with Saudi Arabia and Syria, as both mess with many other nations illegaly and Saudi Arabia practices horrible business ethics. Iran is a maybe, and only if they actually fund terrorist organizations, which I still don't believe they do considering the feelings of the general Iranian populace. Even there you should settle something like that diplomatically.

*cough* Hezbollah *cough*

But China, North Korea, and especially Cuba?! None of them have been doing anything to anyone other than their own country recently! At most China merely rattles swords in Taiwan's face and that's just for show, and don't forget that China is integral to the economies of most of Europe and the United States, and probably a few of our NS nations come to life as well. North Korea waves a gigantic nuclear tipped dick in everyone's faces but they're backing down even now from that. And Cuba? What the hell has Cuba ever done to anyone? They're a communistic nation, sure, but that doesn't make them evil.

I hate communist nations :D

Fact is, the only one I'd even consider potentially invading on your list in Saudi Arabia, and even there I'd practice a damned lot of diplomacy first before considering military action. All you will do is destroy the quality of life of millions of people who don't deserve any of it whatsoever, and for what? To "protect" the "ree world? You invade any one of these countries--especially China--and you'll have a huge problem from the nations you're trying to "protect"!

You forget that my primary nation (which I do have to revive) is over 4 billion people. A Quarter of which is in one branch or another of the Military. China is just over 1 billion but does not have the capacity to project it. My invasion will be so swift, it will take Iran, Syria, and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia by surprise.

I'lld take Hawaii and live on it forever :P

Fine, Corny. You want to play hardball? I'll set up an alliance with every other NS nation AND all of the real life European nations, along with the United States, against you. Think you can take us all on? Because I really don't want to plunge the world into another world war if I can avoid it, but if you violate the sovereignty of those nations, you'll force my hand.

Fine, Corny. You want to play hardball? I'll set up an alliance with every other NS nation AND all of the real life European nations, along with the United States, against you. Think you can take us all on? Because I really don't want to plunge the world into another world war if I can avoid it, but if you violate the sovereignty of those nations, you'll force my hand.

Do you firmly believe I am that stupid to do something like this without some sort of an alliance in place? You really do underestimate me.

Do you firmly believe I am that stupid to do something like this without some sort of an alliance in place? You really do underestimate me.

Of course I underestimate you, Corny! I'm the comical good guy nation, remember? You're too smart for me, so we end up in a war where I and my alliance of whatever is losing badly, then the REAL good guy comes along and destroys you somehow, thus allowing me to win an otherwise unwinnable situation! It's the very foundation of any roleplay in Internation Incidents.

And if either of you do so, you will force my hand. The Machine Empire doesn't take too kindly to any nations disrupting our information systems or threatening our technological progress with military action. It's bad for business, bad for us, and bad for our research. Peace is the best for all involved.

Unlike organic forces, it would simply be a matter of activating our military and our biological weaponry, and from there our genetically engineered weaponry will do the job for us while the military destroys what's left. We don't spend 20% of our government budget on defense for fun.

Only 20%? We spend 40% of ours on Defense. No wonder we have a kick ass ground and space force :D

Fine, Corny. You want to play hardball? I'll set up an alliance with every other NS nation AND all of the real life European nations, along with the United States, against you. Think you can take us all on? Because I really don't want to plunge the world into another world war if I can avoid it, but if you violate the sovereignty of those nations, you'll force my hand.

And if either of you do so, you will force my hand. The Machine Empire doesn't take too kindly to any nations disrupting our information systems or threatening our technological progress with military action. It's bad for business, bad for us, and bad for our research. Peace is the best for all involved.

Unlike organic forces, it would simply be a matter of activating our military and our biological weaponry, and from there our genetically engineered weaponry will do the job for us while the military destroys what manages to survive. We don't spend 20% of our government budget on defense for fun.

And if either of you do so, you will force my hand. The Machine Empire doesn't take too kindly to any nations disrupting our information systems or threatening our technological progress with military action. It's bad for business, bad for us, and bad for our research. Peace is the best for all involved.

Unlike organic forces, it would simply be a matter of activating our military and our biological weaponry, and from there our genetically engineered weaponry will do the job for us while the military destroys what manages to survive. We don't spend 20% of our government budget on defense for fun.

But I'm merely defending the sovereignty of nations he's attacking! I'm not attacking him directly, nor attacking anyone else myself!

Besides...I would think that you and I would be close allies anyway...

Well, Trostia has 8.7 billion people, a GDP of 356 trillion dollars, of which 36.5 trillion is spent on the military...

I would eat the USA for lunch. Maybe some of Europe and the rest of North America for my coffee break.

But I'm merely defending the sovereignty of nations he's attacking! I'm not attacking him directly, nor attacking anyone else myself!

If he attacks, I'll take necessary action. If you attack him unprovoked, I'll do the same.

Besides...I would think that you and I would be close allies anyway...

I didn't mention the part about having the cures for them as well. Perhaps enough to protect your population might find their way in to your arsenal before we decide to launch.

If he attacks, I'll take necessary action. If you attack him unprovoked, I'll do the same.



I didn't mention the part about having the cures for them as well. Perhaps enough to protect your population might find their way in to your arsenal before we decide to launch.
Hmm...what if I attack him after he attacks other nations for his ridiculous reasons? Am I fine then?

Hmm...what if I attack him after he attacks other nations for his ridiculous reasons? Am I fine then?

Oh, sure. But I wouldn't recommend it just because it's a bad idea to move past the quarantine zones we'll have set up. You might accidentally infect some of your citizens or soldiers.

Oh, sure. But I wouldn't recommend it just because it's a bad idea to move past the quarantine zones we'll have set up. You might accidentally infect some of your citizens or soldiers.

Oh, well in that case, I'll leave everything to you, Vetalia. I just hope you take care to minimize the damage to innocent civilians and merely concentrate on stopping his military offensives.

Oh, well in that case, I'll leave everything to you, Vetalia. I just hope you take care to minimize the damage to innocent civilians and merely concentrate on stopping his military offensives.

We control both the cure and the disease...life and death are completely in our hands. But given that we're also a humane nation, we will allow no civilians to die from anything we unleash...but those who try to fight will be utterly destroyed.

We control both the cure and the disease...life and death are completely in our hands. But given that we're also a humane nation, we will allow no civilians to die from anything we unleash...but those who try to fight will be utterly destroyed.

Fair enough, fair enough. I think you've scared him away from actually attacking with your threats of biological warfare, though.

Fair enough, fair enough. I think you've scared him away from actually attacking with your threats of biological warfare, though.

It would make sense...biological weaponry is our main trump card against biological armies.

I'd probably do the same if he had EMP weaponry, but even that's limited to use in combat. We don't construct Faraday cages around our critical nodes for nothing.

It would make sense...biological weaponry is our main trump card against biological armies.

I'd probably do the same if he had EMP weaponry, but even that's limited to use in combat. We don't construct Faraday cages around our critical nodes for nothing.

...you've actually put a lot of thought into your NS nation, haven't you? And here I was just messing around for a wee bit of fun.

...you've actually put a lot of thought into your NS nation, haven't you? And here I was just messing around for a wee bit of fun.

It's one of the few things I can do during classes that still looks like I'm working. If I had Starcraft or something like that running, there's no way in hell I could hide it, but NS is easy because it's all text-based.

Yeah, I've put so much into my nation that it's almost like it's real. My mom asks me 'So, how's Maraque today?" and I could drag on and on about it as if it was real.

Deep World doesn't need to fight.

"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." --Isaac Asimov

We're a thinking person's nation, a Platonic philosopher's state combined with the freedom of a moralist cooperative. The underlying philosophy is that to think is the one gift that makes us truly human, and that our one great responsibility is to use that gift to its full potential. Other countries might try to invade us for the easy pickings but end up staying for just how nice it is here. That, and the legal pot and lax nudity policy.

If your nation was RL and actually interacted with real nations like America, Audia Arabia and such what would you do in the world and who would you declare war with?

Nobody.

hmmm I have no military, no guns and a 100% tax rate

*awaits Swiss enslavement*

my UN Categor is Psychotic Dictatorship so America would be declare war with me in the near future

I would be really concerned about my neighbour Aberdaugleddau. Im a democratic socialist, and their a corrupt dictatorship. Oh dear

I'd appear to be weak and fragile to a bully nation like the US. Id let them attempt to impose shit in my country then when I refuse, seeing I'm weak, they'd try to force it upon me, leading to an Invasion and war between the two. Then I'd pull a shitload of Vietnam/afghanistan war tactics and create a huge bloody quagmire for the opposing nation. Then after bludgouning them I'd resurge and push them out for good, the opposing nations abitions, pride, self esteem, and determination would be severly hampered, and they would begin to crumble. After 50-100 years, As time is no consequence to a nation such as mine, eventually we'd overrun they're entire empire.

If your nation was RL and actually interacted with real nations like America, Audia Arabia and such what would you do in the world and who would you declare war with?

well first of all i wouldn't declaire war with anybody. i'd keep as low a profile as i do as an individual in real life. i would invest the lion's shair of tax revinues in the kind of practical education that would enable us to manufacture solar cells and windmills and all or most of the bits and pieces for our little (and i do mean LITTLE) trains ourselves. i would not build conspicuous palaces (onless doing so was something the big boys insisted on an treatened to destroy me if i didn't).

one thing i for damd sure wouldn't do is barrow from the imf, nor encourage any more then the smallest percentage of forign involvement in our infrastructure.

i would try not to offend anyone but if offsore corporatocracies, notorious for environmental and civil rights abuses, wanted to exploit our resources i'd look for nonconfrontational ways of getting accross the message that you really don't want to build here. i would definatly encourage citizens to make life inconvenient for them under the table, while doing my best to avoid a national posture overtly confrontational to them.

this is about as much as any small country these days, who'se leaders actualy give a dam about their country or their people can do, in the face of the irresestable aggressiveness of major powers, or should i say, corporatocracies and their national lackies.

i would also avoid over centralization wherever possible and as much multiple redundency as possible in infrastructure. i would also invest in practical tools for mining and agreculture that could double in a pince as really fine weapons.

not have a conspicuous standing uniformed army, but a network of means to assemble the willing and able at need. a few other minor little details like that. the american/russian/european/chinese/et c. army might outnumber our entire population. i guess that just means we'd have to shoot twice.

like the swiss are reputed to have done historicly, we'd stay as bloody damd neutral as it is possible for any life forms to remain.

oh and anybody NOT wearing a uniform (or packing military ordinance) would be welcome to come and go as they bloody well please.

oh, and we'd probably invest in model airplains (as a "hobby", of course). spread spectrum radio controlled. more model ufo's then planes. with video cameras and transmitters. maybe ultra sonics and sleepdarts. ah, and of course microbots.

=^^=
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If your nation was RL and actually interacted with real nations like America, Audia Arabia and such what would you do in the world and who would you declare war with?
Audia Arabia? (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/AAAAAAAAA%21)

Invade every small country not part of a large mutual defence pact, eg. EU. Steal resources. Threaten to use nuclear weapons to have rest of world follow my demands. (hurrah for the Global Strategic Missile Defence Project!)
[insert further evil plans here]
Take over world.

If your nation was RL and actually interacted with real nations like America, Audia Arabia and such what would you do in the world and who would you declare war with?I wouldn't need to do anything. My nation's too close to being an anarchy, so every nation capable of it, would instantly declare all-out war on it. Freedom's a dangerous contageon after all.

But whatever. If my nation was real, I'd immediately start working towards anarcho-syndicalism. No reason to treat real people as something less than real people.

If your nation was RL and actually interacted with real nations like America, Audia Arabia and such what would you do in the world and who would you declare war with?

with a pop of approaching 6 1/2 billion and a pretty kick ass economy, i think i'd do pretty well.

however if it were me in charge of my nation, i'd be hiding under the duvet yelling at all the other nations to leave me alone :p

My main nation would be very European-esque but more libertarian, so we'd get along well.

If my nation were smaller and closer to America, I'd have a feeling it'd be like 300... but we'd kick more ass.

EDIT: Forgot something...

We wouldn't be EU or anything, so we wouldn't be war dogs... unless in defense. Then we'd blow their faces off with our pwnsor navy and airforce (not much army since Minaris is an island).

Fair enough, fair enough. I think you've scared him away from actually attacking with your threats of biological warfare, though.

You realize it is called sleep? Oh and if Chemical or bio weapons are used, the retaliation will not be pretty.

Fair enough, fair enough. I think you've scared him away from actually attacking with your threats of biological warfare, though.

I read that as "Biological Welfare". :eek:

Sell my huge quantity of nuclear weapons to the highest bidder.

There wouldn't be war, and I'd rather my country be barely known about.

I would sit in a corner like Switzerland, ever neutral, only to laugh when everyone else blows themselves up and take what's left of them.

Seeing as my nation's population exceeds that of the entire Earth, I'd pretty much just do whatever I want.

well first of all i wouldn't declaire war with anybody. i'd keep as low a profile as i do as an individual in real life. i would invest the lion's shair of tax revinues in the kind of practical education that would enable us to manufacture solar cells and windmills and all or most of the bits and pieces for our little (and i do mean LITTLE) trains ourselves. i would not build conspicuous palaces (onless doing so was something the big boys insisted on an treatened to destroy me if i didn't).

one thing i for damd sure wouldn't do is barrow from the imf, nor encourage any more then the smallest percentage of forign involvement in our infrastructure.

i would try not to offend anyone but if offsore corporatocracies, notorious for environmental and civil rights abuses, wanted to exploit our resources i'd look for nonconfrontational ways of getting accross the message that you really don't want to build here. i would definatly encourage citizens to make life inconvenient for them under the table, while doing my best to avoid a national posture overtly confrontational to them.

this is about as much as any small country these days, who'se leaders actualy give a dam about their country or their people can do, in the face of the irresestable aggressiveness of major powers, or should i say, corporatocracies and their national lackies.

i would also avoid over centralization wherever possible and as much multiple redundency as possible in infrastructure. i would also invest in practical tools for mining and agreculture that could double in a pince as really fine weapons.

not have a conspicuous standing uniformed army, but a network of means to assemble the willing and able at need. a few other minor little details like that. the american/russian/european/chinese/et c. army might outnumber our entire population. i guess that just means we'd have to shoot twice.

like the swiss are reputed to have done historicly, we'd stay as bloody damd neutral as it is possible for any life forms to remain.

oh and anybody NOT wearing a uniform (or packing military ordinance) would be welcome to come and go as they bloody well please.

oh, and we'd probably invest in model airplains (as a "hobby", of course). spread spectrum radio controlled. more model ufo's then planes. with video cameras and transmitters. maybe ultra sonics and sleepdarts. ah, and of course microbots.

=^^=
.../\...

You seem to be basing this on the assumption that you're already a first-world nation. If you're a developing nation, your choice is basically submit to a foreign corporatocracy or watch your people rot in poverty. Or go for an eco-economy, but that takes an awful lot of work and a strong, long-term commitment to pull off.

I thought this thread was about the song by Bread (http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/if.htm) :rolleyes:

On Topic, this (http://imdb.com/title/tt0053084/)

annoy the french every so often send out taskofrces to the less wellknown places where is UN taskforces, treat belgium as a some kind of younger sibling and pop over and big wig with titled heads of states

Hmm. Invade Kazakhstan and Costa Rica (The two best places ever) and make them my own. And shoot random ICBMs at the Middle East and blame them on Israel.

meh, we would be a peaceful nation.

If your nation was RL and actually interacted with real nations like America, Audia Arabia and such what would you do in the world and who would you declare war with?

The Soft and Gooey World of Lunatic Goofballs... a real place. *eyes glaze over*

....mmmm.....

*shakes head to clear it* Uh, what was the question again? Oh. Yeah.

Well, I think that deserves it's own thread, don't you? ;)