NationStates Jolt Archive


Ever use Warez?

Zilam
26-02-2007, 07:16
Im not asking for links or anything like that, as it will get NS in trouble, but I was just wanting to see how many NSers have used Warez

Again, don't post links to warez, or the warez itself.

BTW, Warez is illegal software, such as a free copy of Windows Vista, example.



I have used warez..and still do :-p

I reckon I'll be caught someday...or not
UpwardThrust
26-02-2007, 07:18
yes
Nevered
26-02-2007, 07:19
mostly abandonware
Zilam
26-02-2007, 07:20
mostly abandonware


Isn't that legal though?
Kanabia
26-02-2007, 07:21
mostly abandonware

Ditto.
Kanabia
26-02-2007, 07:23
Isn't that legal though?

Technically not. Some developers and publishers support the idea, releasing their works as freeware...others are ambivalent and turn a blind eye...and still others (such as EA) don't, and raise all sorts of hell over 20 year old software.
UpwardThrust
26-02-2007, 07:23
Isn't that legal though?

No upkeep has nothing to do with copyright law
Zilam
26-02-2007, 07:26
No upkeep has nothing to do with copyright law

Technically not. Some developers and publishers support the idea, releasing their works as freeware...others are ambivalent and turn a blind eye...and still others (such as EA) don't, and raise all sorts of hell over 20 year old software.

Oh, ok thanks fellas :)
UpwardThrust
26-02-2007, 07:28
Oh, ok thanks fellas :)

NP I mean I guess I feel less guilty about it but ...
Zilam
26-02-2007, 07:34
NP I mean I guess I feel less guilty about it but ...


I have stopped feeling guilty after awhile, especially when its software from microsoft.
UpwardThrust
26-02-2007, 07:37
I have stopped feeling guilty after awhile, especially when its software from microsoft.

I get heavy discounts through work, when I only pay for shipping so about 12 bucks for anything they release ... From vista to office 07
Posi
26-02-2007, 07:47
I get heavy discounts through work, when I only pay for shipping so about 12 bucks for anything they release ... From vista to office 07

Boo'urns to Vista.
Infinite Revolution
26-02-2007, 07:48
i have lots of programs where the free trial period has run out so i uninstall it and re-download the free trial. my virus checker was nabbed off the university and i have a feeling my MS office suite is a copy although that might have been on the old home pc. i've downloaded a couple of programmes off limewire too but they had viruses so i had to get rid.
The Scandinvans
26-02-2007, 07:49
Well, I have a chimp diamond mine which makes me ones of the ten richest chimp researchers in the world. So I guess using Wares it a lot less worse then that.
Zilam
26-02-2007, 07:50
i have lots of programs where the free trial period has run out so i uninstall it and re-download the free trial. my virus checker was nabbed off the university and i have a feeling my MS office suite is a copy although that might have been on the old home pc. i've downloaded a couple of programmes off limewire too but they had viruses so i had to get rid.

this post might push the line, so i might have to edit it....

But, there are things you can google for that teach you to make cracks for free trial periods, where as it looks like you bought it. :)
UpwardThrust
26-02-2007, 07:51
Boo'urns to Vista.

I dont know with a bit of work can make it do anything I want ... personally seems to be a rather pointless upgrade but I have not honestly experienced any loss of productivity switching to it at work, and we use some pretty crazy and handwriten software
Infinite Revolution
26-02-2007, 07:52
<snip just in case ;)>

cool, i'll look into it :)
Divine Imaginary Fluff
26-02-2007, 07:57
Yes. I haven't downloaded any pirated stuff in a while, though, mainly due to a lack of HD space. I have just got myself an external 400GB drive, though...;)
Posi
26-02-2007, 07:58
I dont know with a bit of work can make it do anything I want ... personally seems to be a rather pointless upgrade but I have not honestly experienced any loss of productivity switching to it at work, and we use some pretty crazy and handwriten software
I found productivity increased when I ditched Windows all together. My house has only Linux and Mac OS 9.
UpwardThrust
26-02-2007, 08:00
I found productivity increased when I ditched Windows all together. My house has only Linux and Mac OS 9.

Depends for what I am doing, you know how much of an avid fan of *nix I am but when you are dealing with an all windows work environment that can not change and you are developing for that environment it is not an option
Posi
26-02-2007, 08:04
Depends for what I am doing, you know how much of an avid fan of *nix I am but when you are dealing with an all windows work environment that can not change and you are developing for that environment it is not an option
To tell you the truth, having Windows would make what piece of homework I am working on easier. I'm doing an class diagram and need a tool as crappy as paint to get anything done. So far, documenting this program has taken at least twice as long as coding the damned thing.
UpwardThrust
26-02-2007, 08:07
To tell you the truth, having Windows would make what piece of homework I am working on easier. I'm doing an class diagram and need a tool as crappy as paint to get anything done. So far, documenting this program has taken at least twice as long as coding the damned thing.

yeah I mean when I am doing networking stuff I would not touch windows ... I am trying to write a VB application to automatically configure a wireless network card on 200 + student laptops ...
Steel Butterfly
26-02-2007, 08:10
I pirated Photoshop 7.0 a few years back when it came out, but I ended up deleting it cause I had no real use for it.

I'm a big emulator fan though. Rocking the GBA and SNES haha. Trust me, I've supported Nintendo in the past and Sony in the past/present far enough ot morally justify it.
Posi
26-02-2007, 08:10
yeah I mean when I am doing networking stuff I would not touch windows ... I am trying to write a VB application to automatically configure a wireless network card on 200 + student laptops ...
I am writing a piss simple application that sorts an array. And its due in 50 minutes! *is fucked*

Hopefully Eclipse can build a UML diagram for me.
UpwardThrust
26-02-2007, 08:13
I am writing a piss simple application that sorts an array. And its due in 50 minutes! *is fucked*

Hopefully Eclipse can build a UML diagram for me.

Hate to say it but viseo's database extractor with ODBC driver has saved my ass reverse engineering databases, except for wiki, so efficient but no referential iintegrity makes for a messy diagram
Cyrian space
26-02-2007, 08:53
So one time I actually, honestly lost my manual for one of my games, and the manual had the CD key. So after being unable to find it during a reinstall, I unwisely did a google search for a key cracker. The file I found infected my computer so badly with viruses and spy ware that it took more than a month to get it clean.
Posi
26-02-2007, 09:06
Hate to say it but viseo's database extractor with ODBC driver has saved my ass reverse engineering databases, except for wiki, so efficient but no referential iintegrity makes for a messy diagram

dia saved my ass. Has a built in UML formatter. Did the class diagram in like twenty minutes.
Ciudatenia
26-02-2007, 09:44
I have legit Windows XP 64-bit Edition.
I also have a legit Total Commander copy and own quite some games. I usually buy stuff that I really like (and ain't as expensive as a Ferrari) but unfortunately there hasn't been any release worth buying lately.

I had quite an issue with Sacred, bought the game a few months ago and it wouldn't run on XP 64-bit. But I previously had a pirated copy which worked. So I downloaded the crack for it and it worked fine. Turned out that it was the copy protection software (embedded in the game) which was not running properly. Quite ironical :)
So now I have a legit Sacred copy and I play it cracked. Oddly enough :)

But I have other pirated programs too.
As soon as I give up gaming, I'll switch t Linux. I have Ubuntu Server installed on my second computer and am building an online game on it. THAT computer is piracy-free :)
Posi
02-03-2007, 07:56
I have legit Windows XP 64-bit Edition.
I also have a legit Total Commander copy and own quite some games. I usually buy stuff that I really like (and ain't as expensive as a Ferrari) but unfortunately there hasn't been any release worth buying lately.

I had quite an issue with Sacred, bought the game a few months ago and it wouldn't run on XP 64-bit. But I previously had a pirated copy which worked. So I downloaded the crack for it and it worked fine. Turned out that it was the copy protection software (embedded in the game) which was not running properly. Quite ironical :)
So now I have a legit Sacred copy and I play it cracked. Oddly enough :)

But I have other pirated programs too.
As soon as I give up gaming, I'll switch t Linux. I have Ubuntu Server installed on my second computer and am building an online game on it. THAT computer is piracy-free :)
How the hell do you pirate Linux?:confused:
Kanabia
02-03-2007, 08:01
I had quite an issue with Sacred, bought the game a few months ago and it wouldn't run on XP 64-bit. But I previously had a pirated copy which worked. So I downloaded the crack for it and it worked fine. Turned out that it was the copy protection software (embedded in the game) which was not running properly. Quite ironical :)
So now I have a legit Sacred copy and I play it cracked. Oddly enough :)

It used Starforce, i'm guessing? I've had quite the number of similar problems.
Posi
02-03-2007, 08:07
It used Starforce, i'm guessing? I've had quite the number of similar problems.
Starforce is Satan in binary form.
Divine Imaginary Fluff
02-03-2007, 09:20
Starforce is Satan in binary form.Now, now, be nice. You should apologize to Satan having said such a nasty thing.
Kanabia
02-03-2007, 09:53
Now, now, be nice. You should apologize to Satan having said such a nasty thing.

:P
Extreme Ironing
02-03-2007, 11:25
Well, considering this version of Windows is pirated, and this version of WindowBlinds, Photoshop 7.0, MSOffice, Sibelius 3.... No, of course not, I would never not pay for anything....

Hmm, maybe I should edit this post to not disclose so much information about me...
Ifreann
02-03-2007, 11:33
I have less than legal copies of PSP and Photoshop, though I never use Photoshop. I don't think I even have it installed anymore.
Tainted Visage
02-03-2007, 11:48
Everything I do online is completely legal.
I never do, look at, participate in, or download anything illegal.
Of course if I were the type of person that did illegal things, I would also be the kind of person that lies.
Eltaphilon
02-03-2007, 11:55
Everything I do online is completely legal.
I never do, look at, participate in, or download anything illegal.
Of course if I were the type of person that did illegal things, I would also be the kind of person that lies.

So what you are infering is that the whole post was a lie, and that everything you do online is illegal?

I personally like to vary the legality of my intertube actions. I don't us Warez though.
Tainted Visage
02-03-2007, 12:03
So what you are infering is that the whole post was a lie, and that everything you do online is illegal?

I personally like to vary the legality of my intertube actions. I don't us Warez though.

Now now =D I would never say that.
I was merely stating that if I were the kind of person that did illegal things, I would also lie about it. But that doesn't mean I am lying, does it? Or maybe I am? I dunno. I'm a good honest person, aren't I?:D
Compulsive Depression
02-03-2007, 12:14
Abandonware, mostly. OpenOffice means I don't have to pirate MS Office (as much), I've got enough money now to afford all the games I want, even if I don't have enough time to play them, and I even have a legit copy of Windows (:eek:).

Now if only I could find a copy of Visual Studio 6 Pro at a reasonable price, I'd (get work to) buy that. But I can't, ho hum.

Shame you can't pirate hardware :(
Compulsive Depression
02-03-2007, 12:19
You can. They call it "theft".

Yeah, but that's the difference, isn't it.
I wouldn't get annoyed if somebody copied my work (unless they made money from it and didn't share), but I would be annoyed if they nicked my hard disk.
Tainted Visage
02-03-2007, 12:20
Shame you can't pirate hardware :(

You can. They call it "theft".
It's just like pirating in that you're not breaking the law if you don't get caught, but unlike pirating... if you get caught you aren't fined to your gills. You're fined for whatever you stole, plus another fine for stealing, plus a possible SHORT stint in jail, unless you're a repeat offender.

Then again... people rarely (by percentage) get caught pirating anything. It's almost like it's become overlooked or that nobody cares. Like a problem swept under the rug =o Does this mean more people should do it?
Tainted Visage
02-03-2007, 12:24
Hmmm....
It's best to steal from outlet stores in that case.
Wal-Mart (or was it K-Mart?) no longer files a charge against you for theft of goods under $20. This is due to the cost of charging you with it. They will of course ban you from ever entering their store again, which may really ruin your future shopping experience... but if you can get away with it.. *shrugs* It's not like Wal-Mart in particular hasn't screwed a few people over.

How much are SD Cards? :D lol
Mythotic Kelkia
02-03-2007, 13:26
You can. They call it "theft".

the difference is that it isn't copying. When I steal software the people that gave it to me still have it.