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Ipperwash: Canadian Tradegy

Whereyouthinkyougoing
25-02-2007, 05:53
Oh wow, I hope your drunk.:confused:
What am I missing?
Oganoland
25-02-2007, 05:54
So I have just started by Spring break today, and I am in the last semester of my Bachelor of Arts in Canada and we have just had to dissect what is called the Ipperwash crises that occured near Kettle Lake, Ontario on Sept, 6th, 1995 on Lake Huron near Sarnia Ontario where the Ontario Provincial Police, so like a U.S state police, moved into Ipperwash Provincial Park where 35 unarmed indigenous people were and in an ensuing chaos one of their snippers murdered a native activist named Dudley George, 38, with a bullet to the leg and a bullet to the chest and then Ex Post Facto covered it up.

I am only making mention of it because the Inquiry into the man's death is suppose to occur sometime in February or March.

If you want to take a look into it just type into Google, Ipperwash Inquiry or I will be able to provide links.
Pyotr
25-02-2007, 05:55
Oh wow, I hope your drunk.
Neesika
25-02-2007, 05:57
Oh wow, I hope your drunk.

Hahahahaa...this hope wouldn't have anything to do with lil' ol' me, would it? :D

And for some reason, I thought Dobbs started this thread...weird.

To the OP...the Ipperwash inquiry (http://www.ipperwashinquiry.ca/) has been going on since 2003. It wrapped up in August of last year, and the Commissioner is releasing the final report sometime this year.

I certainly hope you don't expect us to do your homework.
Pyotr
25-02-2007, 05:58
:confused:
What am I missing?

Tragedy

I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
Oganoland
25-02-2007, 06:01
Two letters, not so bad.
Neesika
25-02-2007, 06:02
Now its my turn to be confused, I was commenting on a spelling error.....

Good. I thought you were commenting on the fact that I'm a fucking insane Cree bitch who likes to rip people new assholes for talking shit about native issues.

Not that the OP has had a chance to do so yet.

Damn it, you made me blow my cover!
Oganoland
25-02-2007, 06:02
Hahahahaa...this hope wouldn't have anything to do with lil' ol' me, would it? :D

And for some reason, I thought Dobbs started this thread...weird.

To the OP...the Ipperwash inquiry (http://www.ipperwashinquiry.ca/) has been going on since 2003. It wrapped up in August of last year, and the Commissioner is releasing the final report sometime this year.

I certainly hope you don't expect us to do your homework.


I already said I would get people links if they wanted to (censored) you don't have to be a cow about it.
Pyotr
25-02-2007, 06:03
Hahahahaa...this hope wouldn't have anything to do with lil' ol' me, would it? :D

Now its my turn to be confused, I was commenting on a spelling error.....
Whereyouthinkyougoing
25-02-2007, 06:04
Tragedy

I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
Oh.

It sounded like you were putting the whole OP into question as being so deluded only a drunk could have written it or something.

Bad Pyotr, bad.

(Also: it's "I hope you're drunk" ;) :p)
Neesika
25-02-2007, 06:07
(Also: it's "I hope you're drunk" ;) :p)I love it when spelling nazis forget to spellcheck their own posts :D

Any damn way Pyotr, you're messing with the OP's mojo here for no good reason.

I'm exceptional bitchy tonight...is that your excuse too?
Pyotr
25-02-2007, 06:12
(Also: it's "I hope you're drunk" ;) :p)

Pwnt.

*sulks*
Whereyouthinkyougoing
25-02-2007, 06:12
you're messing with the OP's mojo here for no good reason.As am I, sadly, because Jolt not only timewarped the posts but also actually made me the official OP now. Oh Jolt, how you grate on me. *sobs*

Sorry, real OP. I didn't mean to. :/
Neesika
25-02-2007, 06:13
Jesus Christ, now the OP is scared off and this fucking thread will NEVER HAVE A POINT!!!! :headbang:
Neesika
25-02-2007, 06:15
What the hell are you people talking about. And why can't my brother use his account to post in this topic to defend himself anymore from attacks from plain idiots who do not know what the censor they are talking about.

Plain and simple, my brother and I are doing a course in First Nations studies and have just recently done the Ipperwash case and what occured with Dudley George.

And you people, jump on him for two small letters in a word and then call him a Nazi because he supports the native people that took action at Ipperwash.

You people must be morons.

We're waiting for there to be a point.

And nazi? What alternate universe are you reading this from?

Notice, we all jumped on Pyotr for making an issue out of the spelling.

So get to it! Talk about the goddamned subject already!

(and if you think this introduction to NSG is bad...I was bombarded with dead baby jokes on my first day.)
Zuluistan
25-02-2007, 06:15
What the hell are you people talking about. And why can't my brother use his account to post in this topic to defend himself anymore from attacks from plain idiots who do not know what the censor they are talking about.

Plain and simple, my brother and I are doing a course in First Nations studies and have just recently done the Ipperwash case and what occured with Dudley George.

And you people, jump on him for two small letters in a word and then call him a Nazi because he supports the native people that took action at Ipperwash.

You people must be morons.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
25-02-2007, 06:16
What the hell are you people talking about. And why can't my brother use his account to post in this topic to defend himself anymore from attacks from plain idiots who do not know what the censor they are talking about.

Plain and simple, my brother and I are doing a course in First Nations studies and have just recently done the Ipperwash case and what occured with Dudley George.

And you people, jump on him for two small letters in a word and then call him a Nazi because he supports the native people that took action at Ipperwash.

You people must be morons.
Um...

You might want to calm down maybe?

Pyotr was making a not so very serious remark about the spelling error in the title. Happens, deal with it, move on.

Nobody called the OP a Nazi - Neesika called Pyotr a "spelling Nazi".

Nobody actually said anything bad about the OP. All we're guilty of is not being on topic so far very much because we were still sorting out what the hell Pyotr was talking about in the first place.
Imperial isa
25-02-2007, 06:16
:confused:
What am I missing?

that Jolt saying you made this thread :p
Dobbsworld
25-02-2007, 06:17
And for some reason, I thought Dobbs started this thread...weird.


Doubly weird, seeing as I thought you'd started it for some reason...!
Neesika
25-02-2007, 06:19
Doubly weird, seeing as I thought you'd started it for some reason...!

Well you'd think, huh? I was all like, "Dobbs is stealing my thunder, the bitch" and then like, "Hmmm, but maybe because she started it, people will lower their guards and I can go for the jugular" but then I got caught up in how jugular makes me think of juggler, and how I haven't played hacky-sack in years and then I had more Baileys.
Neesika
25-02-2007, 06:23
I have never seen posters so easily deterred. I'm seriously disappointed.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
25-02-2007, 06:24
I have never seen posters so easily deterred. I'm seriously disappointed.They made a thread in Moderation about people being rude and ignorant towards them.

Talk about a misunderstanding.

And all because Pyotr couldn't clearly say what he was talking about. Bad Pyotr, bad, in case I didn't mention that already.
Neesika
25-02-2007, 06:25
They made a thread in Moderation about people being rude and ignorant towards them.



:rolleyes:

Unreal.
JuNii
25-02-2007, 06:33
be nice. he and his brother are new. at least give them untill 10 posts before unleashing the fury of the NSG forums on em. :p

Zuluistan, chill and read everyone's posts carefully, the time warps make em hard to follow but you'll see that no one said anything bad about Oganoland.

also, as I said in Moderation. this is a Homework Thread. a stict no-no.

I suggest both of you use Google and wikipedia. both are helpful and can get you pointed in the right direction.
Mikesburg
25-02-2007, 08:01
So I have just started by Spring break today, and I am in the last semester of my Bachelor of Arts in Canada and we have just had to dissect what is called the Ipperwash crises that occured near Kettle Lake, Ontario on Sept, 6th, 1995 on Lake Huron near Sarnia Ontario where the Ontario Provincial Police, so like a U.S state police, moved into Ipperwash Provincial Park where 35 unarmed indigenous people were and in an ensuing chaos one of their snippers murdered a native activist named Dudley George, 38, with a bullet to the leg and a bullet to the chest and then Ex Post Facto covered it up.

I am only making mention of it because the Inquiry into the man's death is suppose to occur sometime in February or March.

If you want to take a look into it just type into Google, Ipperwash Inquiry or I will be able to provide links.

Was there a question in here somewhere?

The shooting of Dudley George was a tragedy any way you look at it. Either it was politically motivated and the government is at fault for putting the pressure on the police, or it was an 'act of passion' by a sniper, and the governement is complicit in covering it up. Not good by any stretch of the imagination.
Daistallia 2104
25-02-2007, 12:15
I love it when spelling nazis forget to spellcheck their own posts

Standard rule of the internet - every correction must itself contain a mistake. ;)

(More chum in the shark tank...)
Kryozerkia
25-02-2007, 14:50
Was there a question in here somewhere?

The shooting of Dudley George was a tragedy any way you look at it. Either it was politically motivated and the government is at fault for putting the pressure on the police, or it was an 'act of passion' by a sniper, and the governement is complicit in covering it up. Not good by any stretch of the imagination.

The government was complicit? That's the nicest thing anyone has ever ever said about Mike Harris' Conservative party, who were in power then, by the way (info for the op). The government wasn't just complicit, they wanted the natives removed from Ipperwash in any way possible, which is why we now have the problem with Caledonia because McQuinty can't grow a pair of balls to force authorise some form of agreement that would dissipate the unrest.

The mishandling of the Ipperwash crisis led to a modern one that has been going on for a year and effecting more than just the natives who want this land; it is massively the residents of Caledonia, where a portion of the land is located.

A case of two extremes.
Mikesburg
25-02-2007, 17:52
The government was complicit? That's the nicest thing anyone has ever ever said about Mike Harris' Conservative party, who were in power then, by the way (info for the op). The government wasn't just complicit, they wanted the natives removed from Ipperwash in any way possible, which is why we now have the problem with Caledonia because McQuinty can't grow a pair of balls to force authorise some form of agreement that would dissipate the unrest.

The mishandling of the Ipperwash crisis led to a modern one that has been going on for a year and effecting more than just the natives who want this land; it is massively the residents of Caledonia, where a portion of the land is located.

A case of two extremes.

You can largely blame the whole Ipperwash thing right on Mike Harris' lap. It's a problem when one man can say something like 'get those damn Indians out of the park' and you can have a whole provincial administration dancing like marionettes.

And the issue in Caledonia could have been settled ages ago, if the government had just realized that they screwed up, and compensated all the parties involved; assuring the land stays in native hands, and immediately compensating Henco for its expenses. (Loss of profit is kinda asking too much if you ask me.) Instead, we have an ugly situation that is going to be a boil on the skin of native/non-native relations in Ontario, not to mention the skyrocketing costs of dealing with it.
Neesika
25-02-2007, 19:13
It's so nice not to have to carry this conversation. Thanks Mikesburg (in particular).
Mikesburg
26-02-2007, 01:12
It's so nice not to have to carry this conversation. Thanks Mikesburg (in particular).

:)

Hey, I calls it as I sees it.
Dinaverg
26-02-2007, 01:21
I'm a fucking insane Cree bitch who likes to rip people new assholes

Can I quote you on this?
Mikesburg
26-02-2007, 01:37
Well you'd think, huh? I was all like, "Dobbs is stealing my thunder, the bitch" and then like, "Hmmm, but maybe because she started it, people will lower their guards and I can go for the jugular" but then I got caught up in how jugular makes me think of juggler, and how I haven't played hacky-sack in years and then I had more Baileys.

Okay back up.

Dobbs is a she?

I'm easily confused.