NationStates Jolt Archive


Dealing with Fred Phelps...

Heikoku
23-02-2007, 22:31
I just thought of a nice, effective, simple and non-legislated way to deal with Fred Phelps.

Sound is protected by the First Ammendment, right? So, when he pickets funerals, why not simply yell through a line of megaphones? Just high enough NOT to cause damage, but to be VERY annoying.
Luporum
23-02-2007, 22:32
How about I execute this waste of life and take one for the team.
LiberationFrequency
23-02-2007, 22:32
You think the mourners arn't going to be even more annoyed by the noise?
Ifreann
23-02-2007, 22:33
I think LG once suggested a counter protest with pickets saying "Fred Phelps' firm muscular buttocks made me gay"
The South Islands
23-02-2007, 22:33
I think that's pretty much what these "Patriot Riders" do. They go to Funerals and revv their engines enough to drown out whatever the Phelpsian Brigade says. Not the most fuel efficient way, but I guess it works.
Heikoku
23-02-2007, 22:36
I think that's pretty much what these "Patriot Riders" do. They go to Funerals and revv their engines enough to drown out whatever the Phelpsian Brigade says. Not the most fuel efficient way, but I guess it works.

You don't feel like LEAVING a place due to people revving up engines. I'm talking shrill, loud, piercing noise here, the kind that makes one feel like leaving the place as quick as they can. And they picket in one specific area, so the funeral goers would not be affected enough.

Or they can rev up the engines ON megaphones.
Heikoku
23-02-2007, 22:37
I think LG once suggested a counter protest with pickets saying "Fred Phelps' firm muscular buttocks made me gay"

They'd say it's slander... :(

But GOOD ONE! :D
Ultraviolent Radiation
23-02-2007, 22:41
I just thought of a nice, effective, simple and non-legislated way to deal with Fred Phelps.

Just have a bunch of people walk past, then, point at Phelps and ask "who is that?" (so that Phelps can hear) and have all the people reply "I have no idea. I don't recognise him".
Eve Online
23-02-2007, 22:43
I think that's pretty much what these "Patriot Riders" do. They go to Funerals and revv their engines enough to drown out whatever the Phelpsian Brigade says. Not the most fuel efficient way, but I guess it works.

It's a question of what is worse for global warming - the bikes, or Fred Phelps' mouth.
Dempublicents1
23-02-2007, 22:49
Just have a bunch of people walk past, then, point at Phelps and ask "who is that?" (so that Phelps can hear) and have all the people reply "I have no idea. I don't recognise him".

Will he go *poof* and disappear? That would be awesome!
The Jade Star
23-02-2007, 22:53
Rabid squirrils would work to.
Curious Inquiry
23-02-2007, 22:55
"Hello, Mr. Phelps? I'd like you to meet this 70-year-old retired marine . . ."
Ultraviolent Radiation
23-02-2007, 22:56
Will he go *poof* and disappear? That would be awesome!

No, but he might get pissed off if he thinks his attention whoring isn't working.
Ifreann
23-02-2007, 23:00
They'd say it's slander... :(

But GOOD ONE! :D

They'd have trouble proving that one.
JuNii
23-02-2007, 23:02
You don't feel like LEAVING a place due to people revving up engines. I'm talking shrill, loud, piercing noise here, the kind that makes one feel like leaving the place as quick as they can. And they picket in one specific area, so the funeral goers would not be affected enough.

Or they can rev up the engines ON megaphones.

all you get is an escallation. they use bull horns, then what? you use bull horns? then they get amplifiers... all the time, it's doing what he wants, disrupting the funeral.
Heikoku
23-02-2007, 23:07
all you get is an escallation. they use bull horns, then what? you use bull horns? then they get amplifiers... all the time, it's doing what he wants, disrupting the funeral.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shriek_%28Batman_Beyond%29

Then we hire THIS guy. :D
Dishonorable Scum
24-02-2007, 02:47
I think LG once suggested a counter protest with pickets saying "Fred Phelps' firm muscular buttocks made me gay"

Here's the sign I'd carry:

HOMOSEXUALITY
is
GOD'S PUNISHMENT
to
AMERICA
for tolerating
FRED PHELPS

Not logical, I know, but that's what makes it great. :D
Utracia
24-02-2007, 02:55
Here's the sign I'd carry:

HOMOSEXUALITY
is
GOD'S PUNISHMENT
to
AMERICA
for tolerating
FRED PHELPS

Not logical, I know, but that's what makes it great. :D

We tolerate that guy now? Here I thought he could be put on a top ten list of the most hated people in this country.
Zarakon
24-02-2007, 02:58
"Hello, Mr. Phelps? I'd like you to meet this 70-year-old retired marine . . ."

You know, I think one of these days the guys doing the 21 gun salute are gonna just get tired of it and come over and scream the shit out of him.
Siap
24-02-2007, 03:00
I once had a dream where the second coming occured and Fred Phelps was the antichrist...
Zarakon
24-02-2007, 03:01
We tolerate that guy now?

By the standards of tolerating gays, yes. We don't put him in a reeducation center, which is probably along the lines of the NICEST thing he wants to do.

Also, this brings up some interesting points. One, should Phelps marriage be respected, or should it be referred to as an uncivil union, and not convey the same rights? Should they even be allowed civil unions? Two, Should they be allowed to adopt children? What about in vitro fertilization? and three, is his personality a birth defect, or a result of brain damage, and can it be inherited?
Zarakon
24-02-2007, 03:02
I once had a dream where the second coming occured and Fred Phelps was the antichrist...

...That wasn't a dream. Except the bit about the second coming.
Zarakon
24-02-2007, 03:09
Well instead of Sarah Silverman's idea of putting people with AIDS on the moon we should put bigots like Fred Phelps there instead. I'm sure they'll all get along with each other just fine with no sinful people to anger up their blood.

In a society of saints, the least saintly is the sinner.

Trust me, these people have a need to have a demon. Trust me, the first person who admits to impure thoughts will be demonified utterly.
Utracia
24-02-2007, 03:09
By the standards of tolerating gays, yes. We don't put him in a reeducation center, which is probably along the lines of the NICEST thing he wants to do.

Also, this brings up some interesting points. One, should Phelps marriage be respected, or should it be referred to as an uncivil union, and not convey the same rights? Should they even be allowed civil unions? Two, Should they be allowed to adopt children? What about in vitro fertilization? and three, is his personality a birth defect, or a result of brain damage, and can it be inherited?

Well instead of Sarah Silverman's idea of putting people with AIDS on the moon we should put bigots like Fred Phelps there instead. I'm sure they'll all get along with each other just fine with no sinful people to anger up their blood.
Siap
24-02-2007, 03:12
...That wasn't a dream. Except the bit about the second coming.

It wasn't Phelps exactly, but looked a lot like him. In the dream there were a lot of wars and the Phelps-eque preacher kept screaming "God Hates Fags" and he got all kinds of crazy lynch mobs who would kill almost indiscriminantly in the name of God, until the armies of heaven descended upon Earth, at which point his forces were beaten back and he confessed to being the antichrist.

For some reason, I always have vivid dreams. I just thought it was interesting that the antichrist would use Christ's name to destroy what Christ envisioned.
Myrmidonisia
24-02-2007, 03:18
I just thought of a nice, effective, simple and non-legislated way to deal with Fred Phelps.

Sound is protected by the First Ammendment, right? So, when he pickets funerals, why not simply yell through a line of megaphones? Just high enough NOT to cause damage, but to be VERY annoying.

You know, if no one paid attention to him -- and I'm not sure anyone does -- he'd eventually just go away.
Celtlund
24-02-2007, 03:21
I just thought of a nice, effective, simple and non-legislated way to deal with Fred Phelps.

Sound is protected by the First Ammendment, right? So, when he pickets funerals, why not simply yell through a line of megaphones? Just high enough NOT to cause damage, but to be VERY annoying.

How about picketing his "church" and using megaphones while they are having "church services"?
Utracia
24-02-2007, 03:23
In a society of saints, the least saintly is the sinner.

Trust me, these people have a need to have a demon. Trust me, the first person who admits to impure thoughts will be demonified utterly.

You are destroying my mental illusion that they will be able to get along with each other. I don't know if coming back to reality is helpful or not. :p
South Lizasauria
24-02-2007, 03:25
The fact of the matter is he's trying to force people to conform to his ways using force, I know he has a small group of followers. Next time they try to pull off their crap just shout back at them through a speaker phone reasons why he's wrong, why he's hypocrite and a bastard, and that he's breaking some rules in the constitution (I think right to a peaceful funeral is one) and shout reasons why he isn't really Christian, he's not because true Christians do not commit the atrocities he does.
Myrmidonisia
24-02-2007, 03:25
The fact of the matter is he's trying to force people to conform to his ways using force, I know he has a small group of followers. Next time they try to pull off their crap just shout back at them through a speaker phone reasons why he's wrong, why he's hypocrite and a bastard, and that he's breaking some rules in the constitution (I think right to a peaceful funeral is one) and shout reasons why he isn't really Christian, he's not because true Christians do not commit the atrocities he does.

Force? If he uses force, then I suspect he can be arrested for assault. The government is the only entity that can get its way by using force and fraud.
South Lizasauria
24-02-2007, 03:29
Force? If he uses force, then I suspect he can be arrested for assault. The government is the only entity that can get its way by using force and fraud.

I heard he actually had his followers attack a military funeral once, they were throwing rocks and everything.
The Nazz
24-02-2007, 03:29
We tolerate that guy now? Here I thought he could be put on a top ten list of the most hated people in this country.

We tolerate him in the sense that we don't make it illegal for him to believe his own bullshit or even to foment it, but that's as far as the toleration extends.
Myrmidonisia
24-02-2007, 03:30
I heard he actually had his followers attack a military funeral once, they were throwing rocks and everything.

There's no protection for that behavior. If it happened, the participants should all have been jailed. I do suspect there're a lot of untrue stories about the man.
Marrakech II
24-02-2007, 03:31
You don't feel like LEAVING a place due to people revving up engines. I'm talking shrill, loud, piercing noise here, the kind that makes one feel like leaving the place as quick as they can. And they picket in one specific area, so the funeral goers would not be affected enough.

Or they can rev up the engines ON megaphones.

Why make noise when you can use the new invention that will be in use by the US military. Heat them up until they shut up.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6297149.stm
The Nazz
24-02-2007, 03:33
There's no protection for that behavior. If it happened, the participants should all have been jailed. I do suspect there're a lot of untrue stories about the man.

Yeah, my experience with the Phelps type is that they know precisely where the legal line is, and while they stomp the shit out of that line, they never cross it, because they'd be thrown under the jail if they did. I've been on more than one campus with that kind of itinerant preacher, the kind who calls everyone a sinner and pervert and tries to get the crowd riled up enough to attack him. They know exactly what they're doing.
Myrmidonisia
24-02-2007, 03:36
Yeah, my experience with the Phelps type is that they know precisely where the legal line is, and while they stomp the shit out of that line, they never cross it, because they'd be thrown under the jail if they did. I've been on more than one campus with that kind of itinerant preacher, the kind who calls everyone a sinner and pervert and tries to get the crowd riled up enough to attack him. They know exactly what they're doing.

Like I said earlier, the best thing to do is just not pay any attention at all. They'll go away when they realize no one is listening. They will continue to get positive support from some other wack-o's, but I think it's the protests and antagonists that they thrive on.
The Nazz
24-02-2007, 03:39
Like I said earlier, the best thing to do is just not pay any attention at all. They'll go away when they realize no one is listening. They will continue to get positive support from some other wack-o's, but I think it's the protests and antagonists that they thrive on.

Absolutely. We had one on our campus late last term and early this term, and some of my freshmen were really upset by the guy. I couldn't keep their attention one day because they were so worked up over it. I kept trying to tell them exactly that, but they wouldn't listen. He eventually left, moved on to another school I guess. I don't miss him.
Rejistania
24-02-2007, 03:44
How about picketing his "church" and using megaphones while they are having "church services"?
Great idea!
South Lizasauria
24-02-2007, 03:45
Absolutely. We had one on our campus late last term and early this term, and some of my freshmen were really upset by the guy. I couldn't keep their attention one day because they were so worked up over it. I kept trying to tell them exactly that, but they wouldn't listen. He eventually left, moved on to another school I guess. I don't miss him.

Schools eh? This guy is now disrupting our student's from learning and he's trying to brainwash students... :sniper: Somebody assassinate him already, he's only a menace. Its not like he's actually going do do something that actually contributes to humanity.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
24-02-2007, 03:47
The absolute best way to deal with him is to totally ignore him.
The Nazz
24-02-2007, 03:47
Schools eh? This guy is now disrupting our student's from learning and he's trying to brainwash students... :sniper: Somebody assassinate him already, he's only a menace. Its not like he's actually going do do something that actually contributes to humanity.

Not Phelps--just someone like him.
Myrmidonisia
24-02-2007, 03:50
Schools eh? This guy is now disrupting our student's from learning and he's trying to brainwash students... :sniper: Somebody assassinate him already, he's only a menace. Its not like he's actually going do do something that actually contributes to humanity.
Are you seriously advocating murder?
South Lizasauria
24-02-2007, 03:51
Great idea!

A great idea indeed! Lets stop him from poisoning those poor people's minds. He wages intellectual war on random people, lets pull intellectual blitzkrieg on him. I think rallying a major protest of 10,000 in front of his church protesting his church's vile actions and dehumanizing "protests" and also protest against his brainwashing and false doctrines! :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:
Utracia
24-02-2007, 03:56
We tolerate him in the sense that we don't make it illegal for him to believe his own bullshit or even to foment it, but that's as far as the toleration extends.

I would assume it would be as simple as that. There isn't anyway we would go any farther to make his life easier.
South Lizasauria
24-02-2007, 03:58
Are you seriously advocating murder?

I think I made "intellectual war" clear! that means fight for people's minds, very little violence is involved. Intellectual war is mainly trying to win brainwashed people back, or if your the brainwasher to keep them in your grip. Its basically de-programmers vs brainwashers.
South Lizasauria
24-02-2007, 04:02
There's no protection for that behavior. If it happened, the participants should all have been jailed. I do suspect there're a lot of untrue stories about the man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gubiP3mP3Ds&mode=related&search=

Whether or not there was violence involved no one should have the right to emotionally abuse people for foolish reasons like they do. We have enough people in distress already without them "protesting" It seems to me that these kind of people are the kind that enjoy brining pain into people's lives.
Allemonde
24-02-2007, 04:41
The absolute best way to deal with him is to totally ignore him.

Absoulutly.


Isn't against NS Laws to even mention this guy?


Hell even Republicans and other Christians hate him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gubiP3mP3Ds&mode=related&search=

Whether or not there was violence involved no one should have the right to emotionally abuse people for foolish reasons like they do. We have enough people in distress already without them "protesting" It seems to me that these kind of people are the kind that enjoy brining pain into people's lives.

The only time I would applaud Sean Hannity & Alan Colmes. She's a crazy bitch. (Ms. Phelps)
Killinginthename
24-02-2007, 05:27
You know, I think one of these days the guys doing the 21 gun salute are gonna just get tired of it and come over and scream the shit out of him.
Actually I was thinking that directing the 21 gun salute at Phelps and crew would be a good way to resolve the situation ;)
Darknovae
24-02-2007, 06:07
I think LG once suggested a counter protest with pickets saying "Fred Phelps' firm muscular buttocks made me gay"

I had that sigged :D

I suggest that. :p
Anti-Social Darwinism
24-02-2007, 08:48
Why not just put Fred Phelps (and his exceedingly homely wife) in a small, sealed room with Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes?
The Pictish Revival
24-02-2007, 10:17
Sound is protected by the First Ammendment, right? So, when he pickets funerals, why not simply yell through a line of megaphones? Just high enough NOT to cause damage, but to be VERY annoying.

I don't know about US law but, for what it's worth, you can't do that in the UK. I saw a recent incident where a copper confiscated a megaphone from some animal rights protesters. Amplified sound is considered broadcasting, and needs a licence. If the US legislators are on the ball (pause for laughter) there will be similar restrictions in place there.

As for anyone who favours the 'intellectual war'... I see what you're saying, but wouldn't it be quicker just to stab him?
Proggresica
24-02-2007, 10:38
If you don't believe in Phelps, he will lose his power.
Kamsaki
24-02-2007, 11:14
Fred Phelps must not die while he remains convinced of his current cause. He needs to be convinced of the folly of his ways while in life so that he will show his followers how wrong they are himself. Otherwise, even when he is dead, his legacy will survive.
East Nhovistrana
24-02-2007, 11:19
Just wait for him to get caught with a rent boy.
Non Aligned States
24-02-2007, 11:24
Like I said earlier, the best thing to do is just not pay any attention at all. They'll go away when they realize no one is listening. They will continue to get positive support from some other wack-o's, but I think it's the protests and antagonists that they thrive on.

Why not use a white noise generator? Preferably an industrial strength one. He can scream and shout till he's blue, but nobody can hear him. That would be a bigger blow to his ego than anything else.

Or if one is very clever, place some conductive material that's negatively charged around the places he likes to yell about. At the same time, a positive charge generating device a little high up like a tesla coil. With some luck, instant lightning.
Keljustan
24-02-2007, 12:49
How about a crowd of people using mirrors to shine sunlight in their eyes? That would be unpleasant for them, but wouldn't bother the funeral with more noise.
Domici
24-02-2007, 14:05
You think the mourners arn't going to be even more annoyed by the noise?

How about those infra-red speakers that project sound in only one direction?

It would be great publicity for the product.
Dishonorable Scum
24-02-2007, 14:37
I just thought it was interesting that the antichrist would use Christ's name to destroy what Christ envisioned.

Clever tactic, isn't it? If I was the Antichrist, that's how I'd go about it.

(And just for the record, I am neither Christ nor Antichrist. I explicitly deny receiving any instructions from God, or the Devil, or anyone else for that matter.)

(Well, actually my wife tries to tell me what to do, but apparantly I don't listen...)

:D
The Most Glorious Hack
24-02-2007, 14:48
Amplified sound is considered broadcasting, and needs a licence. If the US legislators are on the ball (pause for laughter) there will be similar restrictions in place there.I'd just assume not have such restrictions if it's all the same to you. If they're too loud, noise pollution laws will more than suffice.



Isn't against NS Laws to even mention this guy?Hm? Nah. We just don't allow links to his hate-filled websites. We do allow links to The Best Parody Ever (http://www.godhatesfigs.com/index2.html), however.
Heikoku
24-02-2007, 15:47
Why make noise when you can use the new invention that will be in use by the US military. Heat them up until they shut up.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6297149.stm

Because that is against the law, whereas deafening noise isn't.
Heikoku
24-02-2007, 15:52
How about a crowd of people using mirrors to shine sunlight in their eyes? That would be unpleasant for them, but wouldn't bother the funeral with more noise.

Nice. Help that sunlight with some more lights and amplifiers and I'm sold.
THE LOST PLANET
24-02-2007, 15:55
Nice. Help that sunlight with some more lights and amplifiers and I'm sold.:cool: Maybe you should come up with a plan that couldn't be foiled by a pair of Ray-bans...
Heikoku
24-02-2007, 15:55
Why not use a white noise generator? Preferably an industrial strength one. He can scream and shout till he's blue, but nobody can hear him. That would be a bigger blow to his ego than anything else.

How does this work? If the person FEELS like they're muted, I agree, it's a big blow against Phelps.
Heikoku
24-02-2007, 15:57
:cool: Maybe you should come up with a plan that couldn't be foiled by a pair of Ray-bans...

Well, I did, I thought of the sound, Kel came up with the light idea. Plus, strong enough light will pass through ray-bans and still be a pain.
Myrmidonisia
24-02-2007, 16:11
Why not use a white noise generator? Preferably an industrial strength one. He can scream and shout till he's blue, but nobody can hear him. That would be a bigger blow to his ego than anything else.

Or if one is very clever, place some conductive material that's negatively charged around the places he likes to yell about. At the same time, a positive charge generating device a little high up like a tesla coil. With some luck, instant lightning.
Because the white noise, noise cancelling, bright light, etc, technology is just another form of protest and antagonism toward him. Like I said, these guys thrive on opposition. The best statement to make against them is to make no statement at all.
The Pictish Revival
24-02-2007, 18:36
I'd just assume not have such restrictions if it's all the same to you. If they're too loud, noise pollution laws will more than suffice.

I'm not saying it would be a good thing, only that it is a thing which US legislators might be inclined to do.
Again, I'm not sure how it is in the US, but in the UK getting someone had up for noise pollution is a lengthy process involving paperwork and lawyers.

What's all this about mirrors and white noise generators? It's quicker and cheaper just to stab him.
Johnny B Goode
24-02-2007, 19:03
I just thought of a nice, effective, simple and non-legislated way to deal with Fred Phelps.

Sound is protected by the First Ammendment, right? So, when he pickets funerals, why not simply yell through a line of megaphones? Just high enough NOT to cause damage, but to be VERY annoying.

Nah. Just broadcast the sex scenes from Brokeback Mountain on a projector screen over and over. That'll shock them.
Socialist Pyrates
24-02-2007, 19:40
I just thought of a nice, effective, simple and non-legislated way to deal with Fred Phelps.

Sound is protected by the First Ammendment, right? So, when he pickets funerals, why not simply yell through a line of megaphones? Just high enough NOT to cause damage, but to be VERY annoying.

they would just wear earplugs....now do the same outside his church everyday and they may desist.....
JuNii
24-02-2007, 20:15
the best way to silence Phred Phelps is to ignore him. I mean make it a movement to ignore. when they interview him and they ask a person on the street, have them say.
"Fred who?"

When the reporters explain, then the reply should be
"Never heard of him, he sounds like a small minded person."
or
"really? and he's a Baptist? I guess I better change to Islam or Buddism then, if those Baptist Christians really are that narrow minded."

If enough people follow that script, then they'll shut up.
The Nazz
24-02-2007, 20:37
the best way to silence Phred Phelps is to ignore him. I mean make it a movement to ignore. when they interview him and they ask a person on the street, have them say.
"Fred who?"

When the reporters explain, then the reply should be
"Never heard of him, he sounds like a small minded person."
or
"really? and he's a Baptist? I guess I better change to Islam or Buddism then, if those Baptist Christians really are that narrow minded."

If enough people follow that script, then they'll shut up.
If only we could convince local and national media to follow that idea--they're the ones most responsible for giving him a stage.
JuNii
24-02-2007, 20:41
If only we could convince local and national media to follow that idea--they're the ones most responsible for giving him a stage.

that's why I said when a reporter asks...

wouldn't it be a grand signal to the reporters if everyone said...
"you reported on him? sorry, I don't watch news that covers such fluff like this Fred whatchamacallhim, Anna Nicole Smith and Brittney Spears. I watch news that actually reports NEWS." :p
Ifreann
24-02-2007, 20:45
that's why I said when a reporter asks...

wouldn't it be a grand signal to the reporters if everyone said...
"you reported on him? sorry, I don't watch news that covers such fluff like this Fred whatchamacallhim, Anna Nicole Smith and Brittney Spears. I watch news that actually reports NEWS." :p

In the hugely unlikely event I'm ever asked about Fred Phelps by reporters I'll respond in a similar manner to this.
The Pictish Revival
24-02-2007, 22:03
wouldn't it be a grand signal to the reporters if everyone said...
"you reported on him? sorry, I don't watch news that covers such fluff like this Fred whatchamacallhim, Anna Nicole Smith and Brittney Spears. I watch news that actually reports NEWS." :p

Good call. I honestly believe that we get the media we deserve - if enough people announced that they weren't interested in watching a bunch of idiots posturing, the idiots wouldn't be getting coverage.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
24-02-2007, 22:23
The guy thrives on attention, so ignoring him is not only the easiest but also the cruelest thing we can do to him. His mind is addicted to people noticing him... take away his source of enjoyment and he will quickly tire of his antics.
Heikoku
25-02-2007, 02:11
Because the white noise, noise cancelling, bright light, etc, technology is just another form of protest and antagonism toward him. Like I said, these guys thrive on opposition. The best statement to make against them is to make no statement at all.

Is it POSSIBLE to cancel sound like this? o_O
East Lithuania
25-02-2007, 02:25
Just have a bunch of people walk past, then, point at Phelps and ask "who is that?" (so that Phelps can hear) and have all the people reply "I have no idea. I don't recognise him".

I'm one step ahead of you. I have no idea who Fred Phelps is. :p
Pyotr
25-02-2007, 02:26
We should use that pain beam the army has, it's silent so it won't bug the mourners and it will make the troll feel like he's covered in flaming oil.
Heikoku
25-02-2007, 02:35
We should use that pain beam the army has, it's silent so it won't bug the mourners and it will make the troll feel like he's covered in flaming oil.

That is, again, illegal...
Utracia
25-02-2007, 02:41
We should just keep pointing out that Phelps doesn't have a religious bone in his body and is merely the leader of a hate group.
Dishonorable Scum
25-02-2007, 03:38
The guy thrives on attention, so ignoring him is not only the easiest but also the cruelest thing we can do to him. His mind is addicted to people noticing him... take away his source of enjoyment and he will quickly tire of his antics.

He came to visit my town last year, and the "ignore the idiots" tactic largely worked. For once, Durham was united behind something. :D
Pyotr
25-02-2007, 03:43
That is, again, illegal...

We should just keep pointing out that Phelps doesn't have a religious bone in his body and is merely the leader of a hate group.

What he said then...(killjoy)
Heikoku
25-02-2007, 05:58
What he said then...(killjoy)

Sorry, but, as I use to say, it's all fun and games until a religious nut loses an eye...
The Pictish Revival
25-02-2007, 09:18
I've got the answer - a really big magnifying glass, installed on the church roof. Imagine the effect on his followers when he's busy ranting and a shaft of light hits him, causing him to catch fire. That'd get rid of them.
Allemonde
25-02-2007, 14:37
Hm? Nah. We just don't allow links to his hate-filled websites. We do allow links to The Best Parody Ever (http://www.godhatesfigs.com/index2.html), however.


What about this one (http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/)?

BTW- He's not a Baptist or a Christian. He's not affilated with any Baptist congregation. Baptists should sue his ass and tell him to remove "Baptist" from his church name.
LiberationFrequency
25-02-2007, 15:30
Sorry, but, as I use to say, it's all fun and games until a religious nut loses an eye...

Then its just hilarious:p
Heikoku
25-02-2007, 15:51
Then its just hilarious:p

Exactly.
Myrmidonisia
25-02-2007, 17:47
Is it POSSIBLE to cancel sound like this? o_O

It's easy on a small scale. Essentially what you do is to add in the opposite of an unwanted sound and poof -- the sound is gone. It's kind of like summing forces and moments on a real superficial level.

If you could get a person's voice isolated, then you could generate the sounds needed to cancel out that voice.
Dobbsworld
25-02-2007, 18:05
So ya wanna know how to deal with Fred Phelps? Create a law to place a reasonable limitation on the promulgation of hate speech. And when he and/or his brood break that law, have him/them arrested. I don't see a reasonable alternative.
Non Aligned States
25-02-2007, 18:58
Because the white noise, noise cancelling, bright light, etc, technology is just another form of protest and antagonism toward him. Like I said, these guys thrive on opposition. The best statement to make against them is to make no statement at all.

No, no, no. You don't get it. It's part of my masterpiece plan to finally get rid of him via suicide. His suicide of course.

There's two ways to go about it. With plan one, it's using unobtrusive white noise generators that make him effectively mute without him realizing the cause. Follow up with a sign that goes "We can't hear you" or something similar.

Option two is to get an obvious noise canceler. Big, obtrusive, shiny metal, whatever. As long as he realizes he's being shut out.

In either case, he'll follow up with bullhorns, which of course are not really that effective when being canceled with sufficiently strong cancelers. With whatever limited funds he can command, eventually, he'll have to resort to simply screaming louder to preach his hate. Which of course would be muted still.

And he'll keep screaming even louder. And louder. And then his lungs will just burst or he'll get a heart attack. And that'll be the end of Fred Phelps.
Utracia
25-02-2007, 19:10
What he said then...(killjoy)

Really now, just ignoring him will be enough. I'm sure it would hurt him greatly to know that no one gave a shit what he had to say.
Pradkooahn
25-02-2007, 19:33
After using Wiki to find out who this guy was, I've come up with a half decent idea.

Send him over here to Europe and we'll get him elected into the EU. We do that with all the politians we don't like. I would love to see him come up against Robert Kilroy-Silk and Rev. Ian Paisley. Added bonus, no-one over he will know who the Dickens he is. Hopefully, along with all the other politians we've got rid of with this method, he'll just sink out of the public view. Forever!
Darknovae
25-02-2007, 20:55
After using Wiki to find out who this guy was, I've come up with a half decent idea.

Send him over here to Europe and we'll get him elected into the EU. We do that with all the politians we don't like. I would love to see him come up against Robert Kilroy-Silk and Rev. Ian Paisley. Added bonus, no-one over he will know who the Dickens he is. Hopefully, along with all the other politians we've got rid of with this method, he'll just sink out of the public view. Forever!

Hmm, not a bad idea. :)
Myrmidonisia
25-02-2007, 22:20
No, no, no. You don't get it. It's part of my masterpiece plan to finally get rid of him via suicide. His suicide of course.

There's two ways to go about it. With plan one, it's using unobtrusive white noise generators that make him effectively mute without him realizing the cause. Follow up with a sign that goes "We can't hear you" or something similar.

Option two is to get an obvious noise canceler. Big, obtrusive, shiny metal, whatever. As long as he realizes he's being shut out.

In either case, he'll follow up with bullhorns, which of course are not really that effective when being canceled with sufficiently strong cancelers. With whatever limited funds he can command, eventually, he'll have to resort to simply screaming louder to preach his hate. Which of course would be muted still.

And he'll keep screaming even louder. And louder. And then his lungs will just burst or he'll get a heart attack. And that'll be the end of Fred Phelps.
Hmmmmmm. Why does this remind me of Wile E. Coyote and the ACME label?
Congo--Kinshasa
25-02-2007, 23:49
Fred Phelps is like a really annoying troll: Ignore him, and hope he goes away. Now, if only we could get the mods to DEAT him... :(
Heikoku
26-02-2007, 03:04
It's easy on a small scale. Essentially what you do is to add in the opposite of an unwanted sound and poof -- the sound is gone. It's kind of like summing forces and moments on a real superficial level.

If you could get a person's voice isolated, then you could generate the sounds needed to cancel out that voice.

A voice for each of his idiots?
Stonehaven of Georgia
26-02-2007, 03:35
He is the reason that I hope God is a black woman. So we he gets to the gates she slap's him straight to Hell.:upyours:
Non Aligned States
26-02-2007, 04:26
Hmmmmmm. Why does this remind me of Wile E. Coyote and the ACME label?

Well, Phelps is a bit like ol'e Coyote in that he never gives up no matter what setbacks he suffers. The difference however, is that Phelps is not a creation of mostly ink, and cannot survive what Wile E. does on a regular basis.

Besides, it'd be fun to see him screaming, turning blue and flopping over dead.
Congo--Kinshasa
26-02-2007, 04:59
He is the reason that I hope God is a black woman. So we he gets to the gates she slap's him straight to Hell.:upyours:

Amen.
Eodwaurd
26-02-2007, 05:46
I just thought of a nice, effective, simple and non-legislated way to deal with Fred Phelps.

Sound is protected by the First Ammendment, right? So, when he pickets funerals, why not simply yell through a line of megaphones? Just high enough NOT to cause damage, but to be VERY annoying.

The problem is that making more noise is just as annoying, and can get you arrested. Phelps and his crew rarely stay for more than ten minutes, anyway. They show up, take pictures of themselves being asses, and run away.

A good tactic used by many places is to give the Phelps a place to demonstrate, then parking fire engines in front of it. If the Phelpsians leave their dedicated space, the cops swoop down on them.

The best thing to do is ignore them. They <i>live</i> for abuse. It confirms their belief that they are somehow persecuted and the last real Christians. Ignore them, and they wilt.

Really want to piss them off? Tell them in the sweetest tone possible that Jesus forgives them for their hate.

But yeah, I'd love to show them what persecution means... :sniper: