NationStates Jolt Archive


Cultural and Religious Myths Debunking Thread

Kryozerkia
23-02-2007, 18:58
There are still posters who think that Muslims are trying to destroy our way of life because they want certain rights, or that the crime of Holocaust Denial is politically driven. Or that Atheists are amoral heathens who want to liberalise children and make them into flaming homosexuals.

I think we should take the time to write down the 'myths' and then debunk them so we have a thread we can refer to for later usage that debunks the myths that surround certain topics.

There are no restrictions on the myths that can be posted. This is an open, honest discussion. If you can't handle the real truth and not the falsehoods and lies you've been fed, then I suggest you find another thread because you will be driven from here.
Smunkeeville
23-02-2007, 19:02
I get pretty tired of the "Christians can only have sex in the dark in missionary position for the purposes of reproduction.....or they will go to hell" myth.

I am pretty glad it's not true though :D
Kryozerkia
23-02-2007, 19:02
I get pretty tired of the "Christians can only have sex in the dark in missionary position for the purposes of reproduction.....or they will go to hell" myth.

I am pretty glad it's not true though :D

Care to elaborate? I've only heard that when referring to the most fundamental of the conservative Christians, but not Christians in general.
LiberationFrequency
23-02-2007, 19:04
I get pretty tired of the "Christians can only have sex in the dark in missionary position for the purposes of reproduction.....or they will go to hell" myth.

I am pretty glad it's not true though :D

According to wiki thats Jews
The Nazz
23-02-2007, 19:05
Care to elaborate? I've only heard that when referring to the most fundamental of the conservative Christians, but not Christians in general.

That's the problem with all these generalizations--you can usually find some faction or group for which it's an accurate description, but the charge is generally made against the group as a whole.
Neesika
23-02-2007, 19:05
According to wiki thats JewsI've yet to meet a sexually repressed Jew.
The Nazz
23-02-2007, 19:05
We aren't? Well shit...
There goes the weekend.
Sarkhaan
23-02-2007, 19:06
Or that Atheists are amoral heathens who want to liberalise children and make them into flaming homosexuals.

We aren't? Well shit...
Katganistan
23-02-2007, 19:13
How about all people with Hispanic accents or surnames are illegals?

Oh, and all liberals are crazy.
All gays are flamboyant.
All Jews are money-grubbing and control the world.
All Asians are smart.
All Americans are fat and stupid....
All Republicans are powermad....
Extreme Ironing
23-02-2007, 19:22
All British people drink tea. Its myth, but a damn shame! Disgusted I was at most of the people at my uni that don't drink tea. How can they ignore such a British pasttime? Infact, how can they call themselves British if their blood isn't made up of 50% tea? :p
Neesika
23-02-2007, 19:23
More myths.

All natives are drunks or gas huffers.
All people who live in trailer parks are inbred morons.
All Albertans are rednecks.
All Quebecois are arrogant fucktards.
All Chinese Canadians speak Chinese.
All Asian Canadians are Chinese.
All University students are leftists.
All Canadians are impossibly polite.
All Canadians hate the US.
HotRodia
23-02-2007, 19:25
I get pretty tired of the "Christians can only have sex in the dark in missionary position for the purposes of reproduction.....or they will go to hell" myth.

I am pretty glad it's not true though :D

What's wrong with the missionary position? :(
LiberationFrequency
23-02-2007, 19:26
What's wrong with the missionary position? :(

Only being able to do it like that would get pretty boring after a while
LiberationFrequency
23-02-2007, 22:12
All British people drink tea. Its myth, but a damn shame! Disgusted I was at most of the people at my uni that don't drink tea. How can they ignore such a British pasttime? Infact, how can they call themselves British if their blood isn't made up of 50% tea? :p

We don't care about your values!
Smunkeeville
23-02-2007, 22:12
What's wrong with the missionary position? :(

nothing, just like there is nothing wrong with potato soup, but if I had to eat it everyday, I would be pretty bored.
Ifreann
23-02-2007, 22:18
Liberals aren't just pinko gay loving abortion having america haters. They eat babies too. :p
Greater Trostia
23-02-2007, 22:21
Oh, here are some of the mundane ones that no one ever seems to challenge:

Republicans are Neocons
Democrats are Hippies
Democrats are Leftists
Republicans are Rightists
Democrats are Liberal
Republicans are Conservative

It's weird, you know. Someone goes on about money-grubbing Jews, and they get stomped on. But a thread could and does go on for weeks based on "blah blah blah you liberal commie democrats blah blah" met by "blah blah blah you rightwing nutjob neocon republicans blah blah." Not that a political group is the same as a religious one... but the similarity is in how it's almost seen as "OK" to dismiss/generalize/stereotype/hate a politically-categorized group and not others.
Eve Online
23-02-2007, 22:23
Republicans aren't all born-again fundamentalist ass-fucking meth smokers...
Soheran
23-02-2007, 22:29
They eat babies too. :p

With frosting made by illegal immigrants.
HotRodia
23-02-2007, 22:34
With frosting made by illegal immigrants.

Sweatshop workers, surely?
Soheran
23-02-2007, 22:35
Sweatshop workers, surely?

That's the conservatives.
Ifreann
23-02-2007, 22:37
Sweatshop workers, surely?

Illegal immigrants working in sweatshops.

Mods are all power hungry people who got to their position of power by ass kissing the admins and other mods.
I'm joking, please don't kill me
Dododecapod
23-02-2007, 22:41
The two I like are "Atheists have no Morality" and the (usually unspoken) "Atheists are ignorant about religion."

The first one makes me laugh. Apparently, because we don't have to fear a nasty afterlife, we don't have to be moral. The thing that really makes me grin is the subtexts:

1: Morality is based on fear.

2: Does that mean you(the speaker) are only moral beacause you're afraid?

The second one just makes me shake my head. While I by no means can quote the bible like a preacher, and have certainly not memorized the Q'ran, I suspect that I know more about Islam, Christianity, Daoism, Confucianism, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Judaism and Jainist thought than 99% of those who can. Most Atheists have either a strong grounding in a particular religion, or have studied comparative religion. It's in that understanding that many people become Atheists.
HotRodia
23-02-2007, 22:41
That's the conservatives.

Right, sorry. I get the two understandably confused sometimes.

Illegal immigrants working in sweatshops.

Nice.

Mods are all power hungry people who got to their position of power by ass kissing the admins and other mods.
I'm joking, please don't kill me

Yeah that's a pretty good one. Especially because someone ass-kissing the Mod Squad is the best way to get me firmly opposed to them being a Mod.
Ifreann
23-02-2007, 22:43
The second one just makes me shake my head. While I by no means can quote the bible like a preacher, and have certainly not memorized the Q'ran, I suspect that I know more about Islam, Christianity, Daoism, Confucianism, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Judaism and Jainist thought than 99% of those who can. Most Atheists have either a strong grounding in a particular religion, or have studied comparative religion. It's in that understanding that many people become Atheists.

Quoted for great truth. I know only one person who was raised atheist. Though she says she's not really sure what she believes, IMS.
Kryozerkia
23-02-2007, 23:55
All Canadians are impossibly polite.
Or all Asians are good at math.

These are what we might call 'positive' stereotyping.

Unlike some myths about religion and culture, these ones and others are positive. They take something that seems to be a desirable trait and apply it to that group because they are the only type of people they have met from that group are like that.

They are still myths, but these ones are more overlooked than others because they don't focus on a negative or perceived inadequacy of a certain group.
Bolondgomba
24-02-2007, 00:07
I'm getting sick of the one that claims all Christians are hypocritical bigots who despise evolution, gravity and any other scientific fact or theory...
Domici
24-02-2007, 00:13
What's wrong with the missionary position? :(

You can't see her body because you're lying on top of it. Her on top with mirrors around the room. :)

On that note I guess I'm pretty annoyed by the myth that guys who like to have the girl on top are submissive and lazy. It's a lot more work to bounce her up and down with only the force of my back muscles than to just jiggle myself around with my arms and legs fully braced.
The Pictish Revival
24-02-2007, 21:44
I get pretty tired of the "Christians can only have sex in the dark in missionary position for the purposes of reproduction.....or they will go to hell" myth.

I am pretty glad it's not true though :D

Tell me about it. I had an 18-month relationship with a very devout Christian evangelist. Total pervert and nigh-on insatiable - I don't know how I survived. [sentence deleted - just a tiny bit more information than you want, I think]
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, that myth is dead and buried. Then dug up again and cremated, just to be sure.
Soviestan
24-02-2007, 21:59
Muslim myths:

Islam is a religion of terrorism/violence.
Islam gives no rights to women.
Islam is an intolerant religion.
All Muslims are terrorists.
There can never be a mix between Islam and the west.

The reality is that terrorism is against what Islam stands for. It was Islam that gave women rights in Arabia and throughout the dark ages. History has shown that Islam has been quite tolerant of other faiths and there can be a mix between Islam and the west.
Soluis
24-02-2007, 22:02
Myths, eh?

Blair is a great leader (American myth).
Leftists are always liberals.
The MCB (and CAIR?) is not actually made up of complete arseholes.
The Irish are unfairly stereotyped as violent and possibly drunk.
London is a great city.

Those are yer myths.
Ashmoria
24-02-2007, 22:09
How about all people with Hispanic accents or surnames are illegals?


heres one that makes me crazy

the notion that when you are making a telephone sales call to someone with a spanish surname in the united states you should talk to them in spanish even when someone answers the phone with "hello".
CthulhuFhtagn
24-02-2007, 22:15
Everyone in Kansas is a total idiot. This is not true. There's like seven people there who aren't.
Ifreann
24-02-2007, 22:16
Everyone in Kansas is a total idiot. This is not true. There's like seven people there who aren't.

Seven people in one people carrier travelling through Kansas.
[NS]Trilby63
24-02-2007, 22:18
Fnord is not eight tons of flax. It's more like five and a half.
Ifreann
24-02-2007, 22:20
Trilby63;12365999']Fnord is not eight tons of flax. It's more like five and a half.

Fnord is evaporated herbal tea without the herbs.
[NS]Trilby63
24-02-2007, 22:25
Fnord is evaporated herbal tea without the herbs.

Yes. The rules for Mornington Crescent are written in sanskrit on leafy pages of fnord.
Socialist Pyrates
25-02-2007, 02:46
myth-that all black people have rhythm and are good dancers...
Neesika
25-02-2007, 02:51
myth-that all black people have rhythm and are good dancers...

Or all black men have huge...pants.