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apparently this guy thought it was. And FYI, if you don't want your door kicked in, don't play your porn loudly.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/22/porn.sword.ap/index.html

I would pay good money to see the look at the porn-watcher's face when that guy burst through his door with a sword.

Well, I admire his initiative of gettign a sword and get to crime fighting. Of course, you do end up looking silly when you're the only one commiting a crime..
And I bet he forgot his cape. But, still. His neighbours should feel safer in knowing that if they cry for help, they can expect a sword to back them up.

"Now I feel stupid," said James Van Iveren

Really? :p

This raises a rather concerning questions:
What kind of porn was it to be confused with rape?

apparently this guy thought it was. And FYI, if you don't want your door kicked in, don't play your porn loudly.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/22/porn.sword.ap/index.html

Porn could be rape. The article doesn't say what the content of the movie was. There are some people out there who get off on the idea of simulated rape... or even real rape, recorded.

If I was the porn watcher, I wouldn't press charges. Sure, he overreacted, but he obviously had good intentions when he broke down the door. He didn't have a phone to call police with, so he didn't exactly have much choice. If anything, I applaud his quick reaction to a possible problematic situation.

What kind of porn was it to be confused with rape?

Hentai?

But then again he's probably none too keen on the whole sex thing to begin with .

"OCONOMOWOC"? :confused:

I'd like to have a nighbor like that!

"OCONOMOWOC"? :confused:

wisconsin is full of great names that have been bastardized through two or more languages from their native origins

oconomowoc is one of the better ones, but i prefer weyauwega myself. or wauwatosa.

and now it's definitely time to bust out the Random Wisconsin City Name Generator (http://www.creepo.net/wicng/)

A sword? Jesus Christ lol.

Well i think someone has watched brave heart a few too many times...

Just imagine it. You're sitting in your room, watching some porn, probably doing the five-finger knuckle shuffle, minding your own business, and some luny runs in with a sword!

You know what it could have been worse though, lol. At least he wasn't like role-playing with his wife and had her chained to the bed with whips and shit hahaha.

Well.. as we can all see.. he's a Paladin.. doing his thing.

Really tho.. since he didn't harm anyone, and was going in to defend a victim( he thought).. he should get less charges than the 3, 'criminal trespass, criminal damage and disorderly conduct'. Criminal Trespass is enough.. imo. I mean unless my beer is really incomprehending my reading skills.. he didn't destroy any of the guys stuff.. no?

Just imagine it. You're sitting in your room, watching some porn, probably doing the five-finger knuckle shuffle, minding your own business, and some luny runs in with a sword!

You know what it could have been worse though, lol. At least he wasn't like role-playing with his wife and had her chained to the bed with whips and shit hahaha.
Jesus, good point. I'd hate to see my partner get into a scuffle over activities I so enjoy that might look equally bad to some deranged person breaking into my home 'to save' me.

I'm pretty sure the guy won't run to the rescue again.. even if it's real. Jail time and fat fines.. will stop people dead in their tracks.

Honestly, he was silly. He should have called the cops...if this was a real situation, a real rape in progress...it's good that he would want to intervene...but the guy, had he actually BEEN a rapist could have had a gun, or who knows what.

It does make you wonder what kind of porn the guy was watching that would have a woman screaming for help though. Ewww.

But I'm not into stuff that is meant to look non-consensual so...*shrugs*

Well.. as we can all see.. he's a Paladin.. doing his thing.

Really tho.. since he didn't harm anyone, and was going in to defend a victim( he thought).. he should get less charges than the 3, 'criminal trespass, criminal damage and disorderly conduct'. Criminal Trespass is enough.. imo. I mean unless my beer is really incomprehending my reading skills.. he didn't destroy any of the guys stuff.. no?

His door and the lock on it.

Honestly the charges fit the crime. He trespassed, and damaged the door to do so. The whole thing was rather disorderly at that, not to mention ridiculous.

People, there is one lesson to be learned here:

When you live in an apartment, keep the sound down. ;)

That. Is. Awesome.

A sword people! A SWORD! :cool:

His door and the lock on it.

Honestly the charges fit the crime. He trespassed, and damaged the door to do so. The whole thing was rather disorderly at that, not to mention ridiculous.

Ahh.. ok. yeah the dude should pay for the door then. I figured I missed something. I'm just glad he didn't slash anyone with his Holy Sword. The guy will probably never intervene again after this. If he's really a good guy that was trying to stop something bad.. it's a loss... if he was anything otherwise .. it's a good thing.. but either way.. it's good for his pocket to mind his own business.. and wear headphones.

Wait, wait, I think we're missing the main point here...
Van Iveren, 39, of Oconomowoc, was charged with criminal trespass...
Van Iveren, who lives with his mother in the downstairs apartment, said he did not call police when he heard the noises because he does not have a telephone.

What. The. Fuck? :confused:

:p

Wait, wait, I think we're missing the main point here...



What. The. Fuck? :confused:

:p


Well.. maybe he's Italian.

I think he's learned some serious lessons here:

Move out from your mother's!!!

Knock first.

BUY A TELEPHONE!!!!!!!!!11!!shift+1!!!

And for pete's sake, get something more damaging than a sword!

Though seriously, with the circumstances considered, I think he did the right thing. What if it had been real and he did nothing? He'd be feeling a lot sillier and a lot worse for not doing anything. I hope the judge has enough sense to see that he was simply trying to be a good citizen, not trying to be harmful or dangerous or a criminal himself.

Wow, how did I miss that he didn't have a phone? I caught the living with his mother part...

Wait, wait, I think we're missing the main point here...



What. The. Fuck? :confused:

:p

http://faculty.cua.edu/johnsong/hitchcock/pages/mothers/psychomom.jpg

how is the fact he lives with his mother relevent to the story? reminds me of this. (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30366)

Now that's amusing.

That's the best laugh I've had all week, thanks :D

"By now a blackened, sooty, homosexual figure, Lassally set the Widmans down a safe distance from the house, just as firefighters were arriving, and collapsed on the lawn, exhausted and gay.

Lassally suffered burns covering over 70 percent of his body and sustained injuries leaving him unable to work or have anal intercourse with men for about two months. Doctors describe his condition as stable but homosexual. "

Edit: Cripes, I'm still laughing...this is brilliant!

how is the fact he lives with his mother relevent to the story? reminds me of this. (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30366)

That's bloody brilliant! :D

http://faculty.cua.edu/johnsong/hitchcock/pages/mothers/psychomom.jpg

Haha, I had the same thought.

This would be why people should practice discretion with porn (or even the real thing) when living in apartment buildings.

That's the best laugh I've had all week, thanks :D

"By now a blackened, sooty, homosexual figure, Lassally set the Widmans down a safe distance from the house, just as firefighters were arriving, and collapsed on the lawn, exhausted and gay.

Lassally suffered burns covering over 70 percent of his body and sustained injuries leaving him unable to work or have anal intercourse with men for about two months. Doctors describe his condition as stable but homosexual. "

Edit: Cripes, I'm still laughing...this is brilliant!


Yes, that character play was good. Also, you would and will make a freakin great politician. One day we will all see it. I think your intentions are great.

But what are you referencing? This pic? http://faculty.cua.edu/johnsong/hitchcock/pages/mothers/psychomom.jpg from Free Soviets...? Is his hair do gay? I don't see the correlation.

That. Is. Awesome.

A sword people! A SWORD! :cool:

I've several. They're tools.

I've several. They're tools.

Exactly what purpose does that particular tool serve?

I've several. They're tools.

YOU'RE a tool for having swords :D

Ok ok, I admit I have some too. My great-grandfather had one as an officer in the Canadian (British) army and I nicked it.

But in the US, you expect the guy to bust in with an uzi, I mean...he's making you look bad here!

Haha, I had the same thought.

excellent

Yes, that character play was good. Also, you would and will make a freakin great politician. One day we will all see it. I think your intentions are great. Oh God, I'm going to forget you ever said that. Going 'politician' would be even worse than becoming a born again Christian *shudders, retches, re-enacts the shower scene from the Crying Game*

But what are you referencing? This pic? http://faculty.cua.edu/johnsong/hitchcock/pages/mothers/psychomom.jpg from Free Soviets...? Is his hair do gay? I don't see the correlation.
I'm referencing the link from this post...read the article, it's just wonderful:D
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12359586&postcount=27

Exactly what purpose does that particular tool serve?

You couldn't ask for a more entertaining way to carve the Thanksgiving turkey!

Exactly what purpose does that particular tool serve?

In my house, mostly gathering dust and looking impressive on the wall.

Occasionally to be taken down and "fought" with under extremely controlled circumstances. (think choreographed).

YOU'RE a tool for having swords :D

Ok ok, I admit I have some too. My great-grandfather had one as an officer in the Canadian (British) army and I nicked it.

But in the US, you expect the guy to bust in with an uzi, I mean...he's making you look bad here!

Not really. He wasn't looking to look like a drug dealer or some badass Matrix hero... he was looking (foolishly) to stop what he THOUGHT was a criminal assault.

Me, I'd have banged on ANOTHER door and asked a neighbor to call 911 before pounding on Porn-boy's door and demanding to know what was going on... the delay while we argued through the door should be long enough for the cops to get there.

Not really. He wasn't looking to look like a drug dealer or some badass Matrix hero... he was looking (foolishly) to stop what he THOUGHT was a criminal assault.

Me, I'd have banged on ANOTHER door and asked a neighbor to call 911 before pounding on Porn-boy's door and demanding to know what was going on... the delay while we argued through the door should be long enough for the cops to get there.

I think living with his mother might have stunted his ability to think ahead like that.

Oh God, I'm going to forget you ever said that. Going 'politician' would be even worse than becoming a born again Christian *shudders, retches, re-enacts the shower scene from the Crying Game*


I'm referencing the link from this post...read the article, it's just wonderful:D
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12359586&postcount=27

Yeah, politician IS a bad word. What I meant was , is that you will one day be able to manipulate law.. I mean manipulate people with the law. And I don't see that as a bad thing on your end, if your intentions to help your people are true. I commend you for that. I'm not being sarcastic. You are very articulate, and as long as you keep the faith/passion ...you will bring forth changes. And going into school for that purpose, I don't see many at all doing. Most of us.. in the US.. IMO. are just too comfortable. We allow the crooks(that we middle/lower classes bitch about) to take over ..by our inaction. I'm about lit.. but I do wish you all the best. and I know you will do something great for your people if you keep on the track you are going.

I think living with his mother might have stunted his ability to think ahead like that.

Well, yeah, easy to draw that conclusion... but we don't know enough. Perhaps his mother is ill, and that's why he has to live with her? (My uncle and aunt raised 2 kids and had to move their parents in with them because they could no longer manage alone but were not so debilitated that a nursing home (yuck!) was necessary.) Or one or both of them could be strapped for cash (which would explain why he has no phone).

I still didn't say that right.. I didn't mean manipulate as in.. twist and turn to make it as you want it be.. I was meaning more along the lines of using it the way it was meant .. straightening it out and making those who are responsible, be responsible..

Ah hell we're all going down in bombs.. :( So sad.. we had such a promising future as human beings.

Well, yeah, easy to draw that conclusion... but we don't know enough. Perhaps his mother is ill, and that's why he has to live with her? (My uncle and aunt raised 2 kids and had to move their parents in with them because they could no longer manage alone but were not so debilitated that a nursing home (yuck!) was necessary.) Or one or both of them could be strapped for cash (which would explain why he has no phone).

Kat! It's WAY more fun to picture him as socially retarded, living under his mother's thumb, while roleplaying an Arthurian knight as mommy slumbers, cut off from the outside world by a controlling parent who refuses him access to a phone!

And he's clearly a virgin as well. :P

Kat! It's WAY more fun to picture him as socially retarded, living under his mother's thumb, while roleplaying an Arthurian knight as mommy slumbers, cut off from the outside world by a controlling parent who refuses him access to a phone!

And he's clearly a virgin as well. :P

Oh, sorry. Carry on then.

*strings up bow to hunt speeders in the 'hood* ;)

YOU'RE a tool for having swords :D

Ok ok, I admit I have some too. My great-grandfather had one as an officer in the Canadian (British) army and I nicked it.

But in the US, you expect the guy to bust in with an uzi, I mean...he's making you look bad here!

Pfft, please. I've got seven (for now... ;)), and I assure you, should they need to be used, they could be.

In an apartment building, a sword is still effective due to the close quarters. Granted, if Mr. rapist has a submachine gun, then you're screwed, but that situation wouldn't change regardless of the weapon you had, as long as he noticed you first.

I think this is effing hilarious, really. The guy should just have to pay for the door and what-not, and that's it.

I'd want him as a neighbour.

I'd hate to know what would happen if I had Starcraft turned up too loud...

I honestly don't understand why you guys are making fun of the guy who stormed in.
From my perspective, his actions were honorable. He thought a crime was occuring, and he couldn't contact the police. Therefore, he took action into his own hands. What if a rape had been occuring and he did nothing? Then he would have looked far worse than he does now.
I heard about this from another forum, and such I didn't read the article the OP posted. But the article I read said the sword was a family heirloom, which is why he had it. His actions were good, and it's a shame we don't have more people like him. And I'm being deadly serious.

I honestly don't understand why you guys are making fun of the guy who stormed in.
From my perspective, his actions were honorable. He thought a crime was occuring, and he couldn't contact the police. Therefore, he took action into his own hands. What if a rape had been occuring and he did nothing? Then he would have looked far worse than he does now.
I heard about this from another forum, and such I didn't read the article the OP posted. But the article I read said the sword was a family heirloom, which is why he had it. His actions were good, and it's a shame we don't have more people like him. And I'm being deadly serious.
He had good intentions.

But he got pwned by porn.

It's worth a laugh. Or six!

I honestly don't understand why you guys are making fun of the guy who stormed in.

Not all of us are.

he was so lucky it did not end with Sword meet Gun

Yeah, there's no saving throw for that one.

he was so lucky it did not end with Sword meet Gun

I honestly don't understand why you guys are making fun of the guy who stormed in.
From my perspective, his actions were honorable. He thought a crime was occuring, and he couldn't contact the police. Therefore, he took action into his own hands. What if a rape had been occuring and he did nothing? Then he would have looked far worse than he does now.
I heard about this from another forum, and such I didn't read the article the OP posted. But the article I read said the sword was a family heirloom, which is why he had it. His actions were good, and it's a shame we don't have more people like him. And I'm being deadly serious.

I understand what you are saying, and agree. In my imagined society it would be that way... but nowadays.. you gotta think about your own ass first. Unless you are someone who doesn't mind the repercussions of standing up.. doing the right thing. .. While going to jail or paying a big fat fine for doing it. Sad but True.

he was so lucky it did not end with Sword meet Gun

That's just it...good intentions aside, he could have been walking into a very dangerous situation.

Porn could be rape. The article doesn't say what the content of the movie was. There are some people out there who get off on the idea of simulated rape... or even real rape, recorded.

Exactly what I thought when I saw this thread.

Exactly what I thought when I saw this thread.

It's creepy...but if he replayed the part to the cops, I'm assuming either there is no rape-porn law in that state, or it wasn't as bad as the neighbour thought.

It's creepy...but if he replayed the part to the cops, I'm assuming either there is no rape-porn law in that state, or it wasn't as bad as the neighbour thought.

Oh, I'm not implying that the porn in this case was in anyway rape. Just that there is a lot of nasty stuff out there that glorifies rape.

It's not really on topic, but I was struck by having the same thought as G_n_I.

apparently this guy thought it was.

Apparently that guy is a moron.

It's creepy...but if he replayed the part to the cops, I'm assuming either there is no rape-porn law in that state, or it wasn't as bad as the neighbour thought.

I doubt the porno was rape. It could have been just a girl moaning loudly, as porn usualy contains, and misinterpreted by the ninja in question.

I doubt the porno was rape. It could have been just a girl moaning loudly, as porn usualy contains, and misinterpreted by the ninja in question.

Why the doubt? There is plenty of porn out there that simulates rape...and some that actually depicts real rapes.

Why the doubt? There is plenty of porn out there that simulates rape...and some that actually depicts real rapes.

saddly thats true

If I was the porn watcher, I wouldn't press charges. Sure, he overreacted, but he obviously had good intentions when he broke down the door. He didn't have a phone to call police with, so he didn't exactly have much choice. If anything, I applaud his quick reaction to a possible problematic situation.

I would at least make him pay for the damage to the door.
That guy could have found a phone to call 911 (neighbors maybe?). Its great that he wanted to protect the woman he thought was being raped and all but that is what the police are for. It would give them something to do rather than sit around and wait for people to drive through their little dunghole town going a little to fast. Yeah, I'm talking about you Leon, KS, and your BS 50 mile an hour speed limit on a highway that's a good 250 ft from any part of your town. Heck, there are towns that are right next to highways that don't drop the speed limit. I hope you spend that $110 wisely, but it'll probably just go to donuts for the sheriff and his little gay deputy that had to come help him search my truck for drugs. Yeah, they searched my truck. I was cooperative and polite the entire time and didn't even get upset or object to him searching the truck. But I guess he thought he might need back up to deal with my non-violent a$$. Meanwhile some guy was probably brewing meth behind the police station the whole time they were harrassing me. Sorry, went on a bit of a tangent there (Leon, KS Sucks). Anyway my main point is you can't just go busting into people's houses playing Zorro. It's good to be concerned but if he hadn't had any reason to suspect his neighbor of this kind of thing before, and the article even said he barely knew the guy, then he should have handled his suspicions with a little more delicacy. I think this guy watched Pulp Fiction one too many times. If he busted in on me while I was trying to get off and threatened me with a sword I'd be pretty ticked off no matter what he thought he heard.

wisconsin is full of great names that have been bastardized through two or more languages from their native origins

oconomowoc is one of the better ones, but i prefer weyauwega myself. or wauwatosa.

and now it's definitely time to bust out the Random Wisconsin City Name Generator (http://www.creepo.net/wicng/)


Yeah... well I live in fucking Ripon WI. its fuckin retarded. yeah, weyauwega is a good one. btw, none of those cities in that name generator are real. they take a half of one city and half of another and put them together. lame.....

That guy could have found a phone to call 911 (neighbors maybe?). Its great that he wanted to protect the woman he thought was being raped and all but that is what the police are for.By the time he'd found a telephone and the police finally showed up it might have been to late; the woman would have been raped and the rapist would've fled the scene.

I doubt the porno was rape. It could have been just a girl moaning loudly, as porn usualy contains, and misinterpreted by the ninja in question.

Consider the fact he lives with his mother.

The probability of him being a virgin is ridicoulosly high...:p He probably still goes to the park saying 'mommy what are those doggies doing?'

I'm surprised that he can be charged with criminal offenses, I always thought that for an act to be criminal it required evil intent, or at the very least callous negligance.

Based on what is in the article I hope the jury lets him off - though if more comes out I may change my mind.

Why the doubt? There is plenty of porn out there that simulates rape...and some that actually depicts real rapes.

While I agree that there is plenty of that stuff out there - the article says the guy played the porno to the police - and given that he is not being arrested I think we can assume that they are sure the porno was not real rape (which would be illegal - the 'porn' as well as the rape).

Well i think someone has watched brave heart a few too many times...
The Noble rite of Prima Nocta should never be taken lightly.

Why must people and the police blow this so far out of proportion? *sigh*

This should be funny! The guy with the sword should be mocked and ridiculed, not arrested! He owes the porn guy a new lock and/or whatever else was broken. And a six-pack of beer. That's all.

Nobody got hurt. :rolleyes:

Well.. as we can all see.. he's a Paladin.. doing his thing.

Really tho.. since he didn't harm anyone, and was going in to defend a victim( he thought).. he should get less charges than the 3, 'criminal trespass, criminal damage and disorderly conduct'. Criminal Trespass is enough.. imo. I mean unless my beer is really incomprehending my reading skills.. he didn't destroy any of the guys stuff.. no?
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1830/paddlingpaladincl8.jpg
Reference (http://wiki.nexuswar.com/index.php/Aspects#Tier_2_Aspects)
That's the best laugh I've had all week, thanks :D

"By now a blackened, sooty, homosexual figure, Lassally set the Widmans down a safe distance from the house, just as firefighters were arriving, and collapsed on the lawn, exhausted and gay.

Lassally suffered burns covering over 70 percent of his body and sustained injuries leaving him unable to work or have anal intercourse with men for about two months. Doctors describe his condition as stable but homosexual. "

Edit: Cripes, I'm still laughing...this is brilliant!
I lol\d, and got strange looks as a result.
Oh, sorry. Carry on then.

*strings up bow to hunt speeders in the 'hood* ;)
*pictures a drive-by shooting carried out with longbows*
Why must people and the police blow this so far out of proportion? *sigh*

This should be funny! The guy with the sword should be mocked and ridiculed, not arrested! He owes the porn guy a new lock and/or whatever else was broken. And a six-pack of beer. That's all.

Nobody got hurt. :rolleyes:

Won't somebody please think of the locks!?

Though seriously, with the circumstances considered, I think he did the right thing. What if it had been real and he did nothing?

I could tell you stories about here. Not too long ago, there was a case of a kidnap/rape/murder that made headlines. During the investigations, it was found out that during the kidnap phase, parking lot security guards stopped and inspected the car with both kidnapper and kidnapped inside. According to the witness statements, she was exhibiting all signs of apprehension at the guy in the drivers seat.

What did the guards do? Nothing.

Her body was found the next day.

I could tell you stories about here. Not too long ago, there was a case of a kidnap/rape/murder that made headlines. During the investigations, it was found out that during the kidnap phase, parking lot security guards stopped and inspected the car with both kidnapper and kidnapped inside. According to the witness statements, she was exhibiting all signs of apprehension at the guy in the drivers seat.

What did the guards do? Nothing.

Her body was found the next day.

Meh, rent-a-cops, you get what you pay for.

wisconsin is full of great names that have been bastardized through two or more languages from their native origins

oconomowoc is one of the better ones, but i prefer weyauwega myself. or wauwatosa.

and now it's definitely time to bust out the Random Wisconsin City Name Generator (http://www.creepo.net/wicng/)

Thanks... before now if someone asked me what 'Oconomowoc' was, I'd probably have said it was the sound that Pacman makes.

Thanks... before now if someone asked me what 'Oconomowoc' was, I'd probably have said it was the sound that Pacman makes.

LOL.

Meh, rent-a-cops, you get what you pay for.

Yeah, but this guy wasn't paid to be a rent-a-cop. He did it of his own initiative. Which is somewhat commendable, even if he did get the wrong idea. Our local police are about as effective as wet tissue paper and are about as straight as an unrolled ball of yarn.

At least it gives rise to a more vigilante conscious crowd. Although legally wrong, I somewhat approve whenever I read of a snatch thief being caught by a crowd and beaten to a pulp before the cops apprehend him. Since the cops are generally too lazy to do anything about snatch thieves anyway.

Yeah, but this guy wasn't paid to be a rent-a-cop. He did it of his own initiative. Which is somewhat commendable, even if he did get the wrong idea. Our local police are about as effective as wet tissue paper and are about as straight as an unrolled ball of yarn.

At least it gives rise to a more vigilante conscious crowd. Although legally wrong, I somewhat approve whenever I read of a snatch thief being caught by a crowd and beaten to a pulp before the cops apprehend him. Since the cops are generally too lazy to do anything about snatch thieves anyway.

I meant the one in the kidnapping case you were talking about.

Sorry, vigilantism=bad.

Sorry, vigilantism=bad.

Well, it's either that or a vague presence of law enforcement that doesn't really do much other than ask for bribes whenever they can and doesn't do anything to stop crime.

That's the reality of it.

I mean, you know what the local police tell victims of snatch theft, assault and rape? "Forget making the report. We're not likely to catch them"

Well, it's either that or a vague presence of law enforcement that doesn't really do much other than ask for bribes whenever they can and doesn't do anything to stop crime.

That's the reality of it.

I mean, you know what the local police tell victims of snatch theft, assault and rape? "Forget making the report. We're not likely to catch them"

Then you should elect someone who'll do something about it. Simple.

What kind of porn was it to be confused with rape?

#45 of the Top 100 Questions You just Shouldn't Ask an Open Audience....

And for pete's sake, get something more damaging than a sword!


Perhaps his sword does 2d8+5 damage, +10 against rapists.

Get this:
'[...] he never threatened the neighbor with the sword. "I had the sword extended, but that was all," he said.'

Note to self - when smashing your way into neighbour's flat whilst holding a sword, make sure the sword is only 'extended', or he might feel threatened.

Then you should elect someone who'll do something about it. Simple. That has its place, which is not for all situations.

"Someone stole my bag!"
"Shit! Let's call an election so we can do something about it!"

That has its place, which is not for all situations.

"Someone stole my bag!"
"Shit! Let's call an election so we can do something about it!"

Or "Someone stole my bag!"
"Call the cops, now that we elected Mr. X the police force kicks ass"

apparently this guy thought it was. And FYI, if you don't want your door kicked in, don't play your porn loudly.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/22/porn.sword.ap/index.html

Uh...what the fuck? (Yeah, I realize the irony in that statement)

I would at least make him pay for the damage to the door.
That guy could have found a phone to call 911 (neighbors maybe?). Its great that he wanted to protect the woman he thought was being raped and all but that is what the police are for. It would give them something to do rather than sit around and wait for people to drive through their little dunghole town going a little to fast. Yeah, I'm talking about you Leon, KS, and your BS 50 mile an hour speed limit on a highway that's a good 250 ft from any part of your town. Heck, there are towns that are right next to highways that don't drop the speed limit. I hope you spend that $110 wisely, but it'll probably just go to donuts for the sheriff and his little gay deputy that had to come help him search my truck for drugs. Yeah, they searched my truck. I was cooperative and polite the entire time and didn't even get upset or object to him searching the truck. But I guess he thought he might need back up to deal with my non-violent a$$. Meanwhile some guy was probably brewing meth behind the police station the whole time they were harrassing me. Sorry, went on a bit of a tangent there (Leon, KS Sucks). Anyway my main point is you can't just go busting into people's houses playing Zorro. It's good to be concerned but if he hadn't had any reason to suspect his neighbor of this kind of thing before, and the article even said he barely knew the guy, then he should have handled his suspicions with a little more delicacy. I think this guy watched Pulp Fiction one too many times. If he busted in on me while I was trying to get off and threatened me with a sword I'd be pretty ticked off no matter what he thought he heard.

Next time, drop it from 80, Tex.

*pictures a drive-by shooting carried out with longbows*

You laugh, but I have actually pointed my bow at people (once).

My brother drove a tricked out behemoth with a stereo that could have been heard on Mars (which I hated, btw). One night I hear him yelling outside, and look -- and there are five guys with screwdrivers and knives out there around him and his car. They got the stereo; my stupid brother ran into the midst of them to try to stop them, and they were threatening him.

I ran upstairs, got my recurve out of the closet, strung it, grabbed the quiver and ran to the front bedroom, threw up the window, nocked an arrow and yelled, "Get in your fucking car and leave now."

They turn and one yells, "Or what?"

I leaned out and drew the string back to my ear and said, "Or you find out how good a shot I am."

They decided to leave rather than find out whether or not I sucked. (At the time, I did.)

My brother couldn't resist getting in his last licks -- as they ran to their car, he grabbed a glass orange juice bottle out of our trash and when they passed him, smashed their windshield. Considering they got his stereo, I guess it was deserved, though stupid, and they were slamming on the brakes to turn around, at which point I yelled at him, "Get your ass in here before I shoot YOU."

That's the only time I've pointed it at anything living and if I go the rest of my life without having to do that again, it will be very damned good.

You laugh, but I have actually pointed my bow at people (once).

My brother drove a tricked out behemoth with a stereo that could have been heard on Mars (which I hated, btw). One night I hear him yelling outside, and look -- and there are five guys with screwdrivers and knives out there around him and his car. They got the stereo; my stupid brother ran into the midst of them to try to stop them, and they were threatening him.

I ran upstairs, got my recurve out of the closet, strung it, grabbed the quiver and ran to the front bedroom, threw up the window, nocked an arrow and yelled, "Get in your fucking car and leave now."

They turn and one yells, "Or what?"

I leaned out and drew the string back to my ear and said, "Or you find out how good a shot I am."

They decided to leave rather than find out whether or not I sucked. (At the time, I did.)

My brother couldn't resist getting in his last licks -- as they ran to their car, he grabbed a glass orange juice bottle out of our trash and when they passed him, smashed their windshield. Considering they got his stereo, I guess it was deserved, though stupid, and they were slamming on the brakes to turn around, at which point I yelled at him, "Get your ass in here before I shoot YOU."

That's the only time I've pointed it at anything living and if I go the rest of my life without having to do that again, it will be very damned good.

Actually I was laughing at the thought of the bow being far too large to use properly in the car.

Still, way to kick ass Kat.

time to look at porn in an extremely urban and cramped area. Which i share with around 500 neighbours :p