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Tai Chi, Hung Gar, Northern Shaolin, or Ba Gua?

Klonor
22-02-2007, 02:14
Imagine yourself walking through a dense forest and approaching a vast clearing, within which you find four seperate mystical totems. Each totem represents a respective attribute of one of the four martial arts styles of the title: Tai Chi http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Kind.jpg, Hung Gar http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/Stength.jpg, Northern Shaolin http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Intense.jpg, and Ba Gua http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/Peaceful.jpg. You stop before the four symbols and ponder their meanings before deciding which to adopt as your own personal philosophy. Which do you pick?

If you've read this far, which I'm sure at least half of the people who started reading this thread have not done, and happen to enjoy television programming designed for children in the 6-11 age range, and who doesn't, I'm sure you've realised that these four styles are, in fact, the foundations of the four Bending Arts within Avatar: The Last Airbender (The Legend of Aang in Europe and other such foreign places). Unfortunately, if I'd included any of the actual arts in the title I'm sure this thread would be filled with little more than "w00t! Aang rules!" "Katara rocks!" and "Zuko's so hot!" so I decided to do a little name substitution (How clever am I? I mean seriously, who else would have ever thought of doing that?). Thankfully, this little bit of substitution can still remain faithful to the original intent of the thread, it's not a random and nonsensical sentence which simply misleads the readers, so I get remain truthful yet, at the same time, not open the floodgates for Zutara fanfic and newbie gushing. Yay for me!

Anyway, back to the first paragraph, which of the four Bending Arts would you choose for your own personal style? Waterbending, Earthbending, Firebending, or Airbending?

Personally, I'm conflicted between being an Airbender or an Earthbender, with Waterbender in a relatively distant second and Firebender quite a ways beyond that.

Air is essentially a universal element with regards to people, wherever humanity can survive there is Air within Bending distance, the only external element that one is never seperate from. In addition to its universal availability it is also the peaceful art, which prefers conflict avoidance as opposed to head-on contact, a belief which I've always expressed in my own life. It is also, after Earthbending, the most useful of the Bending arts in non-combat lifestyle. While it's true that Waterbending is also extraordinarily useful, as exemplified by the Water Tribes very civilization constructed solely of water in its various forms, it is also extremely dependent upon the setting in which it is used. An ice-city will not last on the equator, no matter how well constructed it is, and water only exists in sufficient quantity in certain points of the planet (Namely the lakes and oceans), and many locations are completely devoid of the element. Air you can use no matter where you are.

Earth is, however, even more useful than Air is. Like Waterbending, it can be used in nearly all facets of life outside of combat, from construction to transportation, but unlike water it has a solid consistency that makes it available where water is not (A rock is a rock no matter where you put it). It's also more available than Waterbending since, though water is much more plentiful than earth, humans are adapted to life aboard solid land and require much which can not be attained from the sea. However, as I said, there's more water than solid earth on the planet, which means that there's a huge portion of the planet where you have nothing to bend.

If Earthbending was more readily available, or Airbending useful in more ways than simply assisting in daily life, that would put one or the other in the lead, but right now it's really a dead heat.

How 'bout you?
Deus Malum
22-02-2007, 02:30
I LOVE this show, as do most of my friends (which in a way is a little sad, given that we're all in our early 20s).

Personally, I'd go with waterbending. It's a fluid, mutable disciline that requires an immense amount of creativity and the ability to adapt to a rapidly changing situation.


Also, have you heard anything about Season 3?
IL Ruffino
22-02-2007, 02:31
I see words.. I know they form sentences... I know it's in english..

Yet I can't read it. I can't, I just can't. It makes no sense. I'm so confused.

*dies*
Dinaverg
22-02-2007, 02:33
Ecchh...I suppose water is more my style...
Klonor
22-02-2007, 02:33
Apart from some God-awful fan speculation, the only information I've heard from the creators is that Book 3 will, indeed, contain Aang's confrontation with Fire Lord Ozai. More than that I don't know, though I have my suspicions (Like every other fan out there). It's supposed to start in a few months, though there's been no officially announced dates.

And don't feel bad, I'm 20 (21 in a little more than a month) and I love this show, as do most of my friends who've outgrown Aqua Teen Hunger Force and the Venture Brothers. Quality, it seems, transcends age.
Klonor
22-02-2007, 02:34
I see words.. I know they form sentences... I know it's in english..

Yet I can't read it. I can't, I just can't. It makes no sense. I'm so confused.

*dies*

Is that supposed to be a critique of my writing style?
SeaCaribbea
22-02-2007, 02:39
i think i'd be earth, i have a solid personality
Cannot think of a name
22-02-2007, 02:56
I liked Tai Chi.

The rest of this makes no sense to me...
Deus Malum
22-02-2007, 02:56
Apart from some God-awful fan speculation, the only information I've heard from the creators is that Book 3 will, indeed, contain Aang's confrontation with Fire Lord Ozai. More than that I don't know, though I have my suspicions (Like every other fan out there). It's supposed to start in a few months, though there's been no officially announced dates.

And don't feel bad, I'm 20 (21 in a little more than a month) and I love this show, as do most of my friends who've outgrown Aqua Teen Hunger Force and the Venture Brothers. Quality, it seems, transcends age.

But I want it nooooow. I wish they'd just announce a date for the start of the season so I relax a bit and wait.
Klonor
22-02-2007, 02:56
Believe me, I know how you feel, I've been glued to the TV just hoping to catch a glimpse of some trailer or something. Alas, no such luck.
Klonor
22-02-2007, 03:02
The rest of this makes no sense to me...

I take it that you're not a fan of Avatar: The Last Airbender. Within the show there are four mystical martial arts that allow people to telekinetically control whatever element is representated in their art: Water, Earth, Fire, and Air. In a big leap from other kids cartoon shows (Which is one of the things that really makes this show stand out), each of the mystical arts are based on existing Chinese martial arts that represent the philosophy of the arts (Tai Chi, for example, is very subtle and soft, just like water). I'm wondering which of the bending arts (The mystical styles are called "bending") people would chose, based on their personal philosophy and the abilties of the style (Firebending, for example, is very efficient and effective in combat, but has few other applications, except for litting things on fire. Earthbending, however, can be used to build things, move things, etc.)
IL Ruffino
22-02-2007, 03:39
Is that supposed to be a critique of my writing style?

No!

I just don't know what you're talking about, so it confuses me! :(
Klonor
22-02-2007, 03:45
Understandable, if you're not a fan of the show. As I said, within Avatar: The Last Airbender there are four mystical martial arts that allow people to telekinetically control whatever element is representated in their art: Water, Earth, Fire, and Air. Each of the mystical arts are based on existing Chinese martial arts that represent the philosophy of the arts, and I'm wondering which of the bending arts people would chose to use as their own.
Klonor
23-02-2007, 23:25
Okay, I've decided on Airbender. It's universal availability and philosophy just jives with me so much.
Curious Inquiry
23-02-2007, 23:28
Why choose? Study all, and invent your own style. Thesis/antithesis/snythesis forever and ever, amen ;)
Ifreann
23-02-2007, 23:29
I see words.. I know they form sentences... I know it's in english..

Yet I can't read it. I can't, I just can't. It makes no sense. I'm so confused.

*dies*

I agree with Ruffy. What is this "bending" you speak of, and does it involve this gentleman:
http://www.ctn.etsmtl.ca/scgc/boston/boston%202003/bender.gif
?
Khadgar
23-02-2007, 23:31
Earth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthbender)
Eve Online
23-02-2007, 23:38
My sons are completely into the show, and we've decided that we're all fartbenders.
Curious Inquiry
23-02-2007, 23:40
My sons are completely into the show, and we've decided that we're all fartbenders.

LOLZ! So, that would be "air" yes?
Eve Online
23-02-2007, 23:41
LOLZ! So, that would be "air" yes?

In a manner of speaking.

During the show, we all do our "moves".
Curious Inquiry
23-02-2007, 23:44
In a manner of speaking.

During the show, we all do our "moves".

You need to watch with someone who is "fire," so they can light a candle :p
Rhaomi
23-02-2007, 23:45
Earth, fire, wind, and water, eh?

Well, you forgot the most important element:

http://www.progressiveboink.com/b/images/hanna/mati.jpg
H E A R T

"By your powers combined... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO41GWNePDI)"

:D
Eve Online
23-02-2007, 23:45
You need to watch with someone who is "fire," so they can light a candle :p

We've thought about that, but we don't have adequate firebending skills.
Curious Inquiry
23-02-2007, 23:51
H E A R T

Great '70s band! "Lady Zep" we called 'em. :nods:
Taoist Saints
23-02-2007, 23:51
Master Lao Tse, who is said to have given one of his admirers the 81 books of Tao Teh Ching, the foundation of all things Tao, states in his 8th passage thus:

"The highest form of goodness is to be like water.
Water serves all, and strives with none.
It flows down to places despised by others.
Therefore, it is nearest to Tao.

In deciding where to live, seek out humble places,
In heart be wise and deep,
In friendship be compassionate,
In speech be faithful to your words,
In leadership be orderly,
In work be capable, and
In action choose the right moment.

If you do not strive with others, you will be without blame."

This was written around 400 b.c. Doesn't it strike you as astounding that someone from such an ancient time could have written something as profound as this?

Anyway, strive to be like water in your daily life, and you will be near the Tao.
Drunk commies deleted
23-02-2007, 23:51
WTF? Airbendwhat? I thought this was going to be about Chinese internal martial arts.
Rhaomi
23-02-2007, 23:54
WTF? Airbendwhat? I thought this was going to be about Chinese internal martial arts.
Sadly, it is about some cartoon show meant for 6-11-year-olds that is for some reason quite popular with people outside that demographic.

My little brother loves it, and he's 15 and a half. I just don't get it...
Klonor
24-02-2007, 00:00
I'm 20 and I love it, and I don't get it either. I think it's the blending of childish good humor (Which isn't really very childish at all) and adult drama, with some amazingly fine animation.
DoomButtons
24-02-2007, 00:02
Sadly, it is about some cartoon show meant for 6-11-year-olds that is for some reason quite popular with people outside that demographic.

My little brother loves it, and he's 15 and a half. I just don't get it...

Plenty of people enjoy things that are directed towards kids. I know my mother and I go to see kids movies all the time, and a lot of my friends like kid-directed shows as well.

Then there's the fact that as kid's shows these days go, Avatar is a step above most of them.
Curious Inquiry
24-02-2007, 00:13
Plenty of people enjoy things that are directed towards kids. I know my mother and I go to see kids movies all the time, and a lot of my friends like kid-directed shows as well.

Then there's the fact that as kid's shows these days go, Avatar is a step above most of them.

My Dad would watch "Rocky and Bullwinkle" with me. I never got why he laughed at the wrong places 'til I watched it later, as an adult.
Rhaomi
24-02-2007, 00:14
Then there's the fact that as kid's shows these days go, Avatar is a step above most of them.
That's not saying much. Animation these days is crap.
Klonor
24-02-2007, 00:20
Only too true. To paraphrase an internet review of Avatar, now-a-days it seems to be a competition to see who can create the cheapest, most badly animated show possible. Thankfully, Avatar is practically a work of art, the animation truly is beautiful and the fights are extremely well choreographed. Yes, I said choreographed, this show employs real life martial artists to plan their fights and inspire their styles (Which explains the title of the thread, those are the four styles used to create the four bending arts.)
German Nightmare
24-02-2007, 01:11
I'll take the soup, prawn crackers, and the pork sweet-sour with rice as a side-dish, please! http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/jap.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Samurai.gif
Klonor
24-02-2007, 01:42
And the relevance is...?
German Nightmare
24-02-2007, 01:47
And the relevance is...?
I read Hung Gar and felt hunger... (Yes, I'm hungry right now!)
Klonor
24-02-2007, 01:56
Wow, that's off-topic and insulting to a culture. Dandy.
German Nightmare
24-02-2007, 02:17
Wow, that's off-topic and insulting to a culture. Dandy.
That's why I kept it short (it's not like half of the replies are off topic) - but it's my favorite dish when dining out. How that is insulting to a culture is beyond me, though.
But if it pleases you - I did look up the four styles, found it interesting, and then decided not to decide. All I felt was an empty stomach. So please, take it with a pinch of salt and cheer up!