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In response to the most historical moment thread. Who was the person that altered history the most, in your educated opinion?

I'd say the prophet Jesus of Nazareth or Hammurabi

Who was the person that altered history the most, in your educated opinion?
Marty McFly.

The hairy guy who came up with the idea of banging rocks together to make sharper rocks.
Alas, the unsung heros.

Abraham Lincoln

Thor "Lord Commander of the Earth Protectorate" Templar.

From what I can remember, Napoleon has made the most chances that lasted.

Rita Hayworth's figure was pretty historical. Marilyn Monroe, too. Jayne Mansfield. Kim Novak. Charlize Theron, in modern times. Oh, uhm ... I could go on ... :D

the guy(s) who figured out how to use, manipulate and/or make fire

Ted Kennedy.

Marty McFly.

"MCFLY!!!!!"

In response to the most historical moment thread. Who was the person that altered history the most, in your educated opinion?

I'd say the prophet Jesus of Nazareth or Hammurabi

I honestly have to say Jesus as well, for many, seemingly obvious reasons.

Ghengis Khan

Whoever invented the wheel.

Frederick II the Great.

"MCFLY!!!!!"
Uhm... He'll be right back... I guess... http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/delorean.gif

Dr. Who. We'd all be Daleks or Cybermen without him. *nods*

I honestly have to say Jesus as well, for many, seemingly obvious reasons.
He did have a kick-ass biography.

Galileo Galilei

The Doctor.

Thats just wrong. I suggest Hannibal.

But Hannibal lost - Scipio Africanus won.

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Probably Christ or Mohammed.

Abraham Lincoln

Thats just wrong. I suggest Hannibal.

Dr. Who. We'd all be Daleks or Cybermen without him. *nods*

Ah yes. That is true. Unfortunately as he's a time lord, surealy we could argue that to be historicalyou must be dead?

hmm...

I reckon Churchill

The guy who invented paper. Can't remember the name right now.

EDIT - Ah yes, Cai Lun.

I would say Jesus Christ, followed by Martin Luther (that is the reformer)

Ronald McDonald.

Adolf Hitler!

Siddhartha Gautama (aka the Buddha)

But Hannibal lost - Scipio Africanus won.

Yep. In fact, if Carthage had emerged the winner, we'd be living in a very different world. How would the spread of Christianity have turned out, with no Roman Empire? And since Carthage tended to use mercenaries for its foreign wars, chances are they woudn't have been in a position to form a major empire of their own - leaving the other people of western Europe to develop independently. Profound consequences for many countries.

To hell with this, I need sleep.

That one who invented agriculture. Her impact resonates to today. (And it's probably a she; the guys had to hunt.)

Marty McFly.
Great Scott!

QFT

Probably Christ or Mohammed.
Without Abraham to alternately plagiarise and libel, Christ would have been just another brain-dead hippy and Mohammed another irritable warlord.
But I'm going to say William H. Harrison, greatest US President ever.

Aeneas of Troy. @_@

Aeneas of Troy. @_@

Ooh. If he was real, then I may agree.

I also think Genghyz Khan is a good candidate... any of the great conquerors really...

Eleanor of Aquitane.

In a male dominated period she was "...an indefatigable woman of enormous intelligence and titanic energy." Queen of France and later of England, she was the mother of both Richard the Lionhearted and King John. And without the latter, there wouldn't have been the Magna Carta. It can be truly said she changed the course of european history and western civilization. Everyone else just re-arranged the deck chairs...

The guy who invented the ceiling paint brush. I mean, what would we be without it?

That one who invented agriculture. Her impact resonates to today. (And it's probably a she; the guys had to hunt.)

I was going to say Abraham, but I have to agree that the person that invented agriculture has to be closer to the top world-wide. I've been reading "Guns, Germs, and Steel". It's about why some cultures came to dominate other peoples and it all goes back to who had the most food and most domesticated animals first.

The fellow who figured out how to farm.

Compared to him/her, no one else even comes close to mattering. Sadly enough, we'll never know who he/she was.

Edit: Damn! Beaten to it.

Ho Chi Minh and/or Stephen Sondheim. Life today is just a reflection of the Vietnam War/Sweeney Todd.

Alexander the Great

I would say Muhammad.

Probably Christ or Mohammed.I agree..
Jesus and Mohammed in the Religion field..

Napoleon and Alexander on the Military/stateman.

so my list goes like this:

1 Jesus
2 Mohammed
3 Napoleon
4 Alexander

1 Jesus
2 Mohammed

I would place Christ below Muhammad actually. For one thing, it is dubious that a Jesus as described in Christianity existed in the first place, and even if he did it most certainly wasnt him who wrote the Bible. IMO the apostles deserve far more credit for Christianity than Jesus, and the Roman Empire deserve credit for its spread. Muhammad however, dictated the Quran himself and actively used Military force to spread Islam, and the Caliphs who extended the Islamic empire did so under Muhammads explicit orders.

My list would go:

1) Muhammad
2) Julius Caesar
3) Chalres Darwin
4) Lenin
5) Leon Trotsky
6) Adolf Hitler+Joseph Stalin. Tied.

That one who invented agriculture. Her impact resonates to today. (And it's probably a she; the guys had to hunt.)

wouldn't be just one - multiple independent evolutionary origins