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http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3224,36-869148@51-864849,0.html

France's parliament, convened in a special congress at Versailles, has voted 828 to 26 to add an article 66-1 to the 8th title of the 5th republic's constitution, stating that "nul ne peut être condamné à la peine de mort" ("no one may be condemned to the death penalty"), finally constitutionalising its ban on the death penalty.

Now, while France has been abolitionist for some time and the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms would have made it at least as difficult (if not more) as a constitutional ban against the death penalty to return to such out-dated and reprehensible actions, it is nice to see that another nail is banged into the coffin of the death penalty, because that coffin cannot be sealed enough. :)

Yeah, let’s kill that death penalty!

String it up! Burn the fucker!

*reclines in irony*

Well, I'm impressed.

Death penalty is like a zome; no matter how many times you shoot it, it ain't dead.

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3224,36-869148@51-864849,0.html

France's parliament, convened in a special congress at Versailles, has voted 828 to 26 to add an article 66-1 to the 8th title of the 5th republic's constitution, stating that "nul ne peut être condamné à la peine de mort" ("no one may be condemned to the death penalty"), finally constitutionalising its ban on the death penalty.

Now, while France has been abolitionist for some time and the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms would have made it at least as difficult (if not more) as a constitutional ban against the death penalty to return to such out-dated and reprehensible actions, it is nice to see that another nail is banged into the coffin of the death penalty, because that coffin cannot be sealed enough. :)

No more guillotine for unpopular leaders? That was the best part of the Revolution!

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3224,36-869148@51-864849,0.html

France's parliament, convened in a special congress at Versailles, has voted 828 to 26 to add an article 66-1 to the 8th title of the 5th republic's constitution, stating that "nul ne peut être condamné à la peine de mort" ("no one may be condemned to the death penalty"), finally constitutionalising its ban on the death penalty.

Now, while France has been abolitionist for some time and the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms would have made it at least as difficult (if not more) as a constitutional ban against the death penalty to return to such out-dated and reprehensible actions, it is nice to see that another nail is banged into the coffin of the death penalty, because that coffin cannot be sealed enough. :)

I really like your use of the coffin metaphor for the end of death penalty. Irony is so tasty, and you dish it out in such liberal portions, my friend.

Bye bye DP, you scum!

It is no longer called the death penalty, from now it will only be called the 'Marie Antoinette'.

I really like your use of the coffin metaphor for the end of death penalty. Irony is so tasty, and you dish it out in such liberal portions, my friend.

You know me and my penchant for such things.

No more guillotine for unpopular leaders? That was the best part of the Revolution!

The best part of the revolution was the superior metric system.

Death penalty is like a zome; no matter how many times you shoot it, it ain't dead.

That's why you don't shoot it. You find another way...

The best part of the revolution was the superior metric system.

All those chopped heads so that Canadians can measure distance in kilometres, while they measure themselves in feet and inches.

Yay metric system!! Yay!!

All those chopped heads so that Canadians can measure distance in kilometres, while they measure themselves in feet and inches.

Yay metric system!! Yay!!

Canada's failings are no one's but her own, but those failing should be rectified in a couple of decades, anyway, so it's quite moot.

The best part of the revolution was the superior metric system.
Only needed because the rabble had ten fingers and ten toes. If they'd been better educated, y'all would still be measuring the way it was meant to be done... In hogsheads, furlongs, and slugs.

Only needed because the rabble had ten fingers and ten toes. If they'd been better educated, y'all would still be measuring the way it was meant to be done... In hogsheads, furlongs, and slugs.

You mean those that no self-respecting, educated scientist would be caught dead using? Well, I guess it takes an air of "edumacation" to call the SI uneducated...

All those chopped heads so that Canadians can measure distance in kilometres, while they measure themselves in feet and inches.

Yay metric system!! Yay!!

Well, although I do approve of Metric measurement for most everything, I gotta tell ya - in my line of work I prefer to rely upon numbers that divide nicely by twos and threes. They're just... easier to relate to, both visually and temporally.

You mean those that no self-respecting, educated scientist would be caught dead using? Well, I guess it takes an air of "edumacation" to call the SI uneducated...
There's a time and place for everything. In the lab, I don't mind millimeters, although I prefer 10,000ths of an inch, but I'll be darned if I want to calculate the area of my farm in hectares.

There's a time and place for everything. In the lab, I don't mind millimeters, although I prefer 10,000ths of an inch, but I'll be darned if I want to calculate the area of my farm in hectares.

Well, then, do it in metres squared, seeing as hectares and ares are not part of SI.

Well, then, do it in metres squared, seeing as hectares and ares are not part of SI.

Old habits die hard.

Old habits die hard.

Well, this thread is all about killing such backwards, nasty habits dead. :)

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3224,36-869148@51-864849,0.html

France's parliament, convened in a special congress at Versailles, has voted 828 to 26 to add an article 66-1 to the 8th title of the 5th republic's constitution, stating that "nul ne peut être condamné à la peine de mort" ("no one may be condemned to the death penalty"), finally constitutionalising its ban on the death penalty.

Now, while France has been abolitionist for some time and the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms would have made it at least as difficult (if not more) as a constitutional ban against the death penalty to return to such out-dated and reprehensible actions, it is nice to see that another nail is banged into the coffin of the death penalty, because that coffin cannot be sealed enough. :)

Another victory for human rights achieved.

Another victory for human rights achieved.

While some places regress and stagnate in the matter, there will always be places that march on and lead the way.

Why can't the U.S. be as good as France? :(

Why can't the U.S. be as good as France? :(It's those nasty freedom fries you stuff yourself with.

It's those nasty freedom fries you stuff yourself with.

Blame Belgium.

While some places regress and stagnate in the matter, there will always be places that march on and lead the way.

Hopefully the U.S. will eventually join France with a constitutional amendment banning the death penalty for good. Sadly, it may take a while given the general state of people's viewpoints in the south. :(

Now, while France has been abolitionist for some time

Specifically, since 1981. It was one of the very first things Mitterrand did when he was elected President that same year. He'd said he would, but at that time he was going against the majority of public opinion. Good for him.

So this now is mostly symbolic... but a symbol to be applauded.

Incidentally, there's also the fact that Le Pen has said he would bring the death penalty back if elected. He'll never be elected, but this move has thwarted him anyway.

Yeah, let’s kill that death penalty!

String it up! Burn the fucker!

*reclines in irony*

lol...I wish we had this happen here. Who cares if France reenforces it...

The best part of the revolution was the superior metric system.-metric system- dont we owe it to the Napoleonic Empire ??

"nul ne peut être condamné à la peine de mort"

Awesome! *does a happy dance* Aww...what a surrender to human rights, n'est pas?

I really like your use of the coffin metaphor for the end of death penalty. Irony is so tasty, and you dish it out in such liberal portions, my friend.

You're so punny!

Bye bye DP, you scum!

No, they did not ban double penetration. Thank goodness.

Blame Belgium.

Everybody else does.

No, they did not ban double penetration. Thank goodness.BTW.. My cousin is to send me pictures/clips from Rio.. this week. :D

BTW.. My cousin is to send me pictures/clips from Rio.. this week. :D

Ah Rio, the DP capital...

No, they did not ban double penetration. Thank goodness.LMAO. :D

Come on! This is awesome! Is it just that it's France? Come on...France isn't so bad.

Ah Rio, the DP capital...yeah... specially this week..
I was supposed to go this year.. but that all that will have to wait all the way to Fev 2008

Why can't the U.S. be as good as France? :(

In some US states the death penalty has been illegal for quite a while.

Good for the French. I hope more countries follow their example.

Flame war in 10... 9... 8...

True, but that's not the same as a Constitutional ban on it.

My state has a Constitutional ban on it, and has since 1847. As for the Federal government, it's not as though we have any power over that anyway.

edit: Time warp!

In some US states the death penalty has been illegal for quite a while.True, but that's not the same as a Constitutional ban on it.

Canada's failings are no one's but her own, but those failing should be rectified in a couple of decades, anyway, so it's quite moot.
You mean we are finally doing something about it? I want another free education so I can learn the metric system.

On topic: Good for France. Now if only we can convince them to speak Dutch.

I thought peine meant hair...Or was it comb?

That's why you don't shoot it. You find another way...

You gotta use a shotgun. Or a blunt instrument, destroying the brain.

I thought peine meant hair...Or was it comb?
Cheveau is a hair. The French don't have combs. If they did that would put them on a slippery slope that ends with daily showers.

I thought peine meant hair...Or was it comb?

Hair is "cheveux". Comb is "peigne".

but the death penalty was so perfect...

if you kill someone, we kill you back.

but the death penalty was so perfect...

if you kill someone, we kill you back.

And who kills the person who "kills you back"? What, killing is OK as long as you do it? Nonsense. The death penalty is an anachronism and nothing any civilised society of the 21st century should stand for.

Way to go France.

And who kills the person who "kills you back"? What, killing is OK as long as you do it? Nonsense. The death penalty is an anachronism and nothing any civilised society of the 21st century should stand for.

aah, that was actually sarcasm on my part.

aah, that was actually sarcasm on my part.

The thing is, it wasn't over the top loony by the standard of these boards (by my standards it was, but meh). It was just loony enough to be something certain posters here would post and mean.

And who kills the person who "kills you back"? What, killing is OK as long as you do it?
Of course not, I wouldn't kill them, that would get my hands all messy and force me to confront the reality of my actions. In a civilised socity you get someone else to do it, and then enjoy the experience of snuffing out a life at a safe distance.