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Which country do you prefer: France or Britian?

Urbaan
20-02-2007, 01:58
I saw a thread on here asking the same question about Canada and Mexico and i thought i'd make my own.

Btw i am aware i have spelt Britain wrong in the title, if i knew how to change it i would. Also, i didn't intend for this poll to be multiple choice, ah well i'll get it right next time.
Swilatia
20-02-2007, 02:00
Swilatia.
Chumblywumbly
20-02-2007, 02:02
Both have beautiful outlying areas, both have busy, unfriendly capital cities.
Lunatic Goofballs
20-02-2007, 02:09
I've never been to Britain, but I've been to France and it was a mixed bag. I think I'd need to spend a while in each to make a final decision.

But I will say this: French Fries > English Muffins. :)
Angels World
20-02-2007, 02:15
I have a passion for French, and I would love to see France someday.
Vetalia
20-02-2007, 02:17
England. I just find its history and landscape to be more interesting.
Admiral Canaris
20-02-2007, 02:17
Britain.
Pacitalia
20-02-2007, 02:18
Both!
Kyronea
20-02-2007, 02:18
I've never been to either, so I can't really choose, but if I had to...England.

Why? Two reasons:

1. I can speak the language they speak. I speak a different dialect and we might have a couple bits of confusion here and there but for the most part our languages are the same so there's no problem there, unlike with French.

2. I. Love. The. Accents. OH GOD I love the accents! I could listen to people speaking in those accents all day...pleasepleaseplease!
Allegheny County 2
20-02-2007, 02:19
England. I just find its history and landscape to be more interesting.

Hear Hear!
Kirav
20-02-2007, 02:19
Britain was a ROman province, an Imperial power, scientific entrepreneur, france was just a powerful EUropean country, it had some cool aspects and controlled some imperial things. t'sall
Britain just seems a lot more interesting, and besides, you don't need to learn some strange language to go there.
Allegheny County 2
20-02-2007, 02:21
Britain was a ROman province, an Imperial power, scientific entrepreneur, france was just a powerful EUropean country, it had some cool aspects and controlled some imperial things. t'sall
Britain just seems a lot more interesting, and besides, you don't need to learn some strange language to go there.

France was also taken by Rome :rolleyes:
Chumblywumbly
20-02-2007, 02:24
I. Love. The. Accents. OH GOD I love the accents! I could listen to people speaking in those accents all day...pleasepleaseplease!
Well, hello there...





Oh yeah, internet.
I V Stalin
20-02-2007, 02:28
2. I. Love. The. Accents. OH GOD I love the accents! I could listen to people speaking in those accents all day...pleasepleaseplease!
Which accents?

Brummie? Scouse? Geordie? West Country? Home Counties?
Kryozerkia
20-02-2007, 02:28
France
I V Stalin
20-02-2007, 02:28
Just the parts of what is England and Wales nowadays.
Except for most of Devon & Cornwall. And large parts of Wales.
Admiral Canaris
20-02-2007, 02:29
Britain was a ROman province.

Just the parts of what is England and Wales nowadays.
The Tribes Of Longton
20-02-2007, 02:30
Britain, because we're better than everyone else. Specifically England.

*raises St. George cross of racism*
The Tribes Of Longton
20-02-2007, 02:32
Oh, and all our accents rock. Even scouse.
Admiral Canaris
20-02-2007, 02:37
Except for most of Devon & Cornwall. And large parts of Wales.
Well, large. And what the hell is wrong with the forums this time?
I V Stalin
20-02-2007, 02:40
Well, large. And what the hell is wrong with the forums this time?
Jolt's servers are out of sync. Thus, posts appear when you least expect them to. It'll sort itself out in a few days.
Kyronea
20-02-2007, 02:40
Which accents?

Brummie? Scouse? Geordie? West Country? Home Counties?

All of them except for the ones that sound like...well...basically your version of our redneck accents, as I can't stand accents that make people sound like ignorant idiotic oafs.
Mikesburg
20-02-2007, 02:44
Well, I've always wanted to visit both. I have ancestry tracing back to both countries, my country was founded by both countries, and they both seem all around kinda cool.

However, I give the edge to Britain, well, because France is kinda... well, french.
Extreme Ironing
20-02-2007, 02:49
Britain, clearly.
Fassigen
20-02-2007, 02:52
France. The only good thing the UK has going for it is Scotland, but that's not enough to counteract England and Northern Ireland.

/Wales is inconsequential, as always.
Allegheny County 2
20-02-2007, 03:05
Which has the best beer?

Britain :D
IL Ruffino
20-02-2007, 03:05
Which has the best beer?
Fassigen
20-02-2007, 03:06
Which has the best beer?

If you like room-temperatured piss-water, you'll go with the UK. It's the only choice you have, basically.
Allegheny County 2
20-02-2007, 03:07
Ummmm why am I picking up a 120% on the poll option?
Chumblywumbly
20-02-2007, 03:10
Ummmm why am I picking up a 120% on the poll option?
Britain is that good.
Infinite Revolution
20-02-2007, 03:10
it is good that it is multiple choice. both countries have their redeeming features.
Fassigen
20-02-2007, 03:11
Ummmm why am I picking up a 120% on the poll option?

It's multiple choice.
Fassigen
20-02-2007, 03:12
I choose.. um.. France.
They have pastries. :)

Not only that, but they have other food as well, which the UK is severely lacking in.
IL Ruffino
20-02-2007, 03:12
Britain :D

If you like room-temperatured piss-water, you'll go with the UK. It's the only choice you have, basically.

Conflicting opinion. *is confused*

I choose.. um.. France.

They have pastries. :)
Dobbsworld
20-02-2007, 03:13
I like them both, but for different reasons.
I V Stalin
20-02-2007, 03:14
If you like room-temperatured piss-water, you'll go with the UK. It's the only choice you have, basically.
Of course. If you're referring to real ale, by the way, then any pub worth the name will serve it to you at 12-14 degrees Celsius. I know you live in Sweden, but surely you have central heating? ;)

If, on the other hand, you prefer fizzy water cold enough to freeze your tastebuds, you're more than welcome to go to France.
Kyronea
20-02-2007, 03:19
Ummmm why am I picking up a 120% on the poll option?

Probably because some people are choosing both options, thus the poll results are skewed improperly.
Allegheny County 2
20-02-2007, 03:20
It's multiple choice.

And yet in all of the MC poll options I have seen, it stayed within 100%.

Alwell. Does not matter. GO BRITAIN!!!!
Kyronea
20-02-2007, 03:21
Of course. If you're referring to real ale, by the way, then any pub worth the name will serve it to you at 12-14 degrees Celsius. I know you live in Sweden, but surely you have central heating? ;)

If, on the other hand, you prefer fizzy water cold enough to freeze your tastebuds, you're more than welcome to go to France.

What if you hate beer?
Pie and Beer
20-02-2007, 03:22
pie and beer pwns croissant and coffee.
Pie and Beer
20-02-2007, 03:22
What if you hate beer?

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Fassigen
20-02-2007, 03:23
What if you hate beer?

About anything that you can put in your mouth, be that drinks, food, cocks or pussies, the UK can't even begin to hold a candle to France.
Allegheny County 2
20-02-2007, 03:24
Britain's government has been stable now for a few hundred years. France has had one revolution after another :D
Dobbsworld
20-02-2007, 03:28
pie and beer pwns croissant and coffee.

...no. No, they don't. The UK has it's redeeming qualities, but nothing pwns croissants and coffee.
Fassigen
20-02-2007, 03:29
...no. No, they don't. The UK has it's redeeming qualities, but nothing pwns croissants and coffee.

Except for vol-au-vents/canapés and champagne.
Pie and Beer
20-02-2007, 03:30
...no. No, they don't. The UK has it's redeeming qualities, but nothing pwns croissants and coffee.

well, yeah. i like them too, but the alliteration was just too attractive. baguette and pate wouldn't have sounded as good. and i like them too. look, i was just going for a mildly amusing post, alright! :p
Kyronea
20-02-2007, 03:31
About anything that you can put in your mouth, be that drinks, food, cocks or pussies, the UK can't even begin to hold a candle to France.

I'm going to have to test that myself, with all of the aforementioned things I can put into my mouth.

That said, it is likely that at least the food bit is correct, given the French notority for excellent food.
The Fulcrum
20-02-2007, 03:35
France for le pomo... Britain for the electronica...

France. Sorry Warp.
Fassigen
20-02-2007, 03:36
I'm going to have to test that myself, with all of the aforementioned things I can put into my mouth.

The pussies can be a bit fishy, but that's par for the course, really, and I imagine part of the charm.

That said, it is likely that at least the food bit is correct, given the French notority for excellent food.

You have not eaten until you have eaten in France. Every time I visit I gain at least 5 kg. No wonder they all smoke to keep thin, but since I don't smoke, I pay for it in sweat instead of cancer, but it's still worth it.
Europa Maxima
20-02-2007, 03:41
Sans aucun doute, l'Angleterre.

But I do prefer French guys and cuisine. :)
Kyronea
20-02-2007, 03:42
You have not eaten until you have eaten in France. Every time I visit I gain at least 5 kg. No wonder they all smoke to keep thin, but since I don't smoke, I pay for it in sweat instead of cancer, but it's still worth it.

I will definitely remember that for when I finally manage a trip to Europe. When that will be I do not know, but I will someday.
Similization
20-02-2007, 03:49
Vegan food's usually excellent both places. French people are more welcoming in my experience, but that might be because I don't speak the language. Takes slightly longer to make a bad impression.
Sel Appa
20-02-2007, 03:49
I like both a bit equally. They both have pluses and minuses. I can't really pick one. And the histories and cultures of both are so intertwined.
Andaluciae
20-02-2007, 03:52
The UK.

They occasionally speak a language that is vaguely reminiscent of the one I speak.
Nadkor
20-02-2007, 04:02
France. The only good thing the UK has going for it is Scotland, but that's not enough to counteract England and Northern Ireland.

/Wales is inconsequential, as always.

What's wrong with Northern Ireland?
Similization
20-02-2007, 04:40
What's wrong with Northern Ireland?Everything but the Stiff Little Fingers?
Novus-America
20-02-2007, 04:42
France's great thinkers were Voltaire and Rousseau, whose ultimate fruits were several unstable republics, the Reign of Terror, and the Napoleonic Wars. England's great thinkers were Locke and Smith, whose fruits of more perfect republicanism and capitalism still bear today (though sadly neglected).

Rule, Britannia!
Nadkor
20-02-2007, 05:41
Everything but the Stiff Little Fingers?

More like nothing, especially SLF?
Europa Maxima
20-02-2007, 05:41
France's great thinkers were Voltaire and Rousseau, whose ultimate fruits were several unstable republics, the Reign of Terror, and the Napoleonic Wars.
Incidentally, Voltaire was a classical liberal, just like Locke and Smith.
The Black Forrest
20-02-2007, 05:47
I like both.
Maraque
20-02-2007, 06:01
Britain. It's culture is so fucking awesome.
Novus-America
20-02-2007, 06:21
Incidentally, Voltaire was a classical liberal, just like Locke and Smith.

Yes, but they disagreed on a couple of fundamental issues (such as Human Nature). I'll still choose Locke, Smith, and Britain.
Europa Maxima
20-02-2007, 06:25
Yes, but they disagreed on a couple of fundamental issues (such as Human Nature). I'll still choose Locke, Smith, and Britain.
Likewise. Add Mill to that list.
Delator
20-02-2007, 06:52
I'll say France...if only because I think the French Empire fucked up the world slightly less than the British Empire did.
Novus-America
20-02-2007, 06:52
Likewise. Add Mill to that list.

Jame or John Stuart?
Admiral Canaris
20-02-2007, 07:10
What if you hate beer?
Then you get murdered one dark night in an ill litt alley.
NorthNorthumberland
20-02-2007, 10:11
Obviously Britain for many reasons, look at WW2.

France: "We surrendered so that our beautiful city wouldn’t be destroyed."

Britain: " We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."
Saxnot
20-02-2007, 10:16
I love both; Britain's problems are more immediate to me, but I know of France's racial difficulties, which occur slightly differently to ours due to the whole laïcité dealio. I'd like to live in France for a while, certainly, and I want to know more about our overlapping history (crusades era and such, while we still ruled Calais and that); most of what I know's modern, in history terms.
Risottia
20-02-2007, 10:17
Glad of the multichoice, I've selected both:

Britain for climate, panorama, politeness and hospitality.
France for culture, La Republique and the language.

added: on Britain's side, Shakespeare, Tolkien and D.N.Adams.
on France's side, Voltaire, Montesquieu, Rostand, and Zola.
Nationalian
20-02-2007, 10:23
France of course. I will never prefer the 51s state of America over France.
Eltaphilon
20-02-2007, 10:49
look at WW2.

And we were doing so well in a France related thread too...
Rubiconic Crossings
20-02-2007, 11:03
Britain is that good.


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Wallonochia
20-02-2007, 11:12
If you like room-temperatured piss-water, you'll go with the UK. It's the only choice you have, basically.

French beer (in my area) really isn't that good either. Luckily, most of the bars have Guinness, which isn't terrible.

As for which country I prefer, my location should tell you.
Isidoor
20-02-2007, 12:00
france i think, i just tend to go more to france than to Britain. they have a little bit of everything. but england is cool too i guess.
Ilaer
20-02-2007, 12:24
"Rule Britannia, Britannia rule the waves,
Britons never never never shall be slaves!"

Can anyone guess which one I prefer?
It isn't the one with the strange people who eat escargot.

Ilaer
Boonytopia
20-02-2007, 12:27
My parents came from England & I've lived there for a couple of years, but I prefer France.
Rhursbourg
20-02-2007, 12:35
good old Blighty
Rhursbourg
20-02-2007, 12:40
If you like room-temperatured piss-water, you'll go with the UK. It's the only choice you have, basically.

Fass have you ever drank a good pint of real ale form a Micro Brewery if not then how can you generalise all Britsh Beer to be like that
Carisbrooke
20-02-2007, 12:42
If you like room-temperatured piss-water, you'll go with the UK. It's the only choice you have, basically.

I think my Canadian boyfriend would take issue with you about that...he has been living here for two years and LOVES and ADORES our beer, says it is fantastic, tasty and divine, but that said he means beer and not lager, and he hates and loathes the evil 'Bud'.

I would say Britain, but France is nice too....
Cameroi
20-02-2007, 12:58
i prefer any country i DON'T understand the language because that way i'm less likely to be brainwashed by its propiganda. therefor i picked france.

i would prefer any country that has more trains then either of them to either of them too. although both, still, thank something, have more then the u.s. by at least 3 to 5 times per area and or person, if not a good bit more, though still saddly much less then only a few decades ago.

=^^=
.../\...
Boonytopia
20-02-2007, 13:00
I think my Canadian boyfriend would take issue with you about that...he has been living here for two years and LOVES and ADORES our beer, says it is fantastic, tasty and divine, but that said he means beer and not lager, and he hates and loathes the evil 'Bud'.

I would say Britain, but France is nice too....

The UK has excellent beers, it's one of the things I really miss.
Chumblywumbly
20-02-2007, 13:55
The UK has excellent beers, it’s one of the things I really miss.
Mmmmmm, a nice pint of Deuchar’s IPA.
Ariddia
20-02-2007, 15:54
As possibly the only person here who has citizenship of both France and the UK, it's rather difficult for me to choose.

I live in France, and I wouldn't want to live in Britain. We have overall better living conditions here. Better healthcare, for one thing. Better public service and public transport. A better and more democratic electoral system. Universities that are virtually free. And being educated is valued to a greater extent.

Oh, and when people here aren't happy with what the government's doing, we do something about it, and we make them stop. I don't know many countries which actually do that as a matter of routine. France would never have put up with Tony Blair.

On the other hand, I prefer English food to French food. (Seriously!) And not just because it's easier to be a vegetarian in Britain than in France. (In Britain, it's accepted as normal. In France, when they find out you're a vegetarian, they stare at you in utter confusion.) France is a long way behind Britain when it comes to animal rights in general.

France, though, has laïcité. We came up with that over a hundred years ago, and Britain has yet to follow.

And what other country has, as the first line of the first article of its Constitution, this?


La France est une République indivisible, laïque, démocratique et sociale.

France's position on the international scene is also a lot more admirable.

I could go on, but I don't want to give the impression I don't like the UK. I do. I'm British, and I always enjoy going to Britain. It's different from France, and therein lies part of its charm. But I can't imagine ever moving from France to Britain.
Kanabia
20-02-2007, 15:58
Both about the same in my eyes, but then I haven't visited either.
Glorious Freedonia
20-02-2007, 16:35
The UK is a better friend to the US. The French attacked a Greenpeace vessle and tortured people in their war in Algeria. The UK is great it is just so expensive to visit. Woah! Ooo-wee!
Chingie
20-02-2007, 16:37
WTF is it with Britain being a country????

I'd choose Britain everytime, that's England, Scotland, NI and Wales.
The south coast of England's my favourite.

It doesn't count but Southern Ireland is so beautiful.
Utracia
20-02-2007, 16:38
Doesn't Britain beat out France in just about every category?
Chingie
20-02-2007, 16:41
Oh, and when people here aren't happy with what the government's doing, we do something about it, and we make them stop. I don't know many countries which actually do that as a matter of routine.

Mmmm, I love the smell of burning sheep in the morning.
Gift-of-god
20-02-2007, 16:42
If we are talking about visiting, I would say France. Better food, better architecture, better climate, more challenging language (for me), and it's also where my eldest child learnt to walk.
Chingie
20-02-2007, 16:43
Doesn't Britain beat out France in just about every category?

I'd agree but France gave us most of the English language. That's probably why America hates the language so much.
Utracia
20-02-2007, 16:56
I'd agree but France gave us most of the English language. That's probably why America hates the language so much.

Here I thought one of the negatives about France was that the people don't shower on a regular basis. :p
Carisbrooke
20-02-2007, 17:04
I am sorry. but the food thing is a big myth. During the post war period, English food was pretty bland and fairly basic. But there is some damn fine food here nowadays, Everyone that has ever visited with us from overseas has said things along the lines of " we were told the food would be no good/bland/boring/greasy, but it is really good/excellent/great" I have been to France a few times and did not once have what I would call a fantastic meal. I too am mainly vegetarian and the choice is negligible and the service was invariably surly and condescending. Plus England has WAY better cheese.
Greyenivol Colony
20-02-2007, 18:23
Both have beautiful, culturally astounding metropoles for capitals, both have close-minded, thieverous gits in the countryside.

Fixed! :D
Eve Online
20-02-2007, 18:26
I prefer neither.

Southern Germany, on the other hand...
Ultraviolent Radiation
20-02-2007, 18:28
Note: I haven't visited the other constituent countries of Britain much; that's why I'm only going to talk about England. Not because I think that England is the only bit that matters.

English is a nicer-sounding language than French in my opinion (although there are some awful accents in England - the ones that don't make it onto American TV).

Other than that, they're both OK.

As for food, I haven't really dined much in France, but I hear that they eat more healthily rather than just getting fast food, which is good. I don't like croissants, but the French invented the idea of having hot chocolate with your breakfast which is pure genius (have it on cereal, or dip french break in). I can't really comment on English food, because I just consider it normal.

I've heard France is better at protesting bad governments and stuff like that, which is good.
The Tribes Of Longton
20-02-2007, 19:47
I've heard France is better at protesting bad governments and stuff like that, which is good.
They've had more practice at it.
Chumblywumbly
20-02-2007, 20:02
Fixed! :D
As a thieverous git of the countryside, who dislikes the rat-race of both London and Paris, I take offence. :D

Southern Germany, on the other hand...
Oh, definately! Germany in general is much more to my taste than France or most of Britain. I’m seriously considering brushing up on my Deutsch and moving to Berlin after Uni. I fell in love with the place last time I was there.
Call to power
20-02-2007, 20:17
Britain because I couldn’t live without cod, chips and the comedy (can people actually live without them?)

It is close though France has a certain alternative flare to it

and this thread needs Dylan Moran (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZWZZRZDcSQ)
Chamoi
20-02-2007, 21:57
I'd agree but France gave us most of the English language. That's probably why America hates the language so much.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NON!!!

What french gave us were the higher status words, technical terms etc etc. Words used by the people that became the rulers post 1066.

English before that and still very much to this day was/is a Germanic Norse language. Most of our 'lower' words come from the Germanic migration and other Viking invasions prevous to this.

French did not give us most of the english language, it gave us a small part of it.

/chamoi

PS shitty fact of the day, if you go the the Fresian Islands and speak to someone that can still speak the language you can speak english to them and them Fresian to you and you can communicate. :)
Quantum Bonus
20-02-2007, 22:18
Oh, and when people here aren't happy with what the government's doing, we do something about it, and we make them stop. I don't know many countries which actually do that as a matter of routine. France would never have put up with Tony Blair.



We don't. We tried to stop him from going into Iraq. Didn't you see the demonstration in London about it? Biggest demonstration in Britain ever i think. He just seems to do what he likes, and it doesn't help when we have a load of monkeys as MP's
Anti-Social Darwinism
20-02-2007, 22:21
Britain, hands down.

They're multicultural, I understand the language (except for some slang, which can be gotten in context), they've never made claims about they're cuisine that they couldn't live up to. The history is fascinating, the architecture is wonderful.

French cuisine is over-rated, as is their wine. The best Europen cuisine is Italian, the best wine in the world no longer comes from France. We're getting wonderful vintages from Australia, South Africa, the United States and they're all better than French wine.

The only thing I like from France is Chanel #5.
The blessed Chris
20-02-2007, 22:22
Both rural France and Britain have wondeful rural regions, and both have god awful urban centres.

However, I would plump for France over Britain any day of the week. The food, drink, language, culture, football and rugby are all of a higher quality and better style.
Yootopia
20-02-2007, 22:23
I picked both.

Britain, although not a country, has some lovely elements to it. Such as Scotland. It also has an interesting history. Coversely, it's plagued by Wales and Norfolk (to anyone from those areas - :p )

France, on the other hand, has topless beaches, good food and a more democratic system of government that Britain. On the other hand, it has a history that reads like a sitcom. "Something interesting happens, and 30-odd years later it goes back, essentially, to what happened before that event."



And Chamoi - actually, the French influence on language is mainly from the time later on in history when we were ruled by the French royal family (Charles' one and two, really), after the French language had developed into its more modern form, when inventions were talked about in French, as was politics etc. and this language leaked out that way.

The Normans spoke a near-Scandinavian language (as can be seen by their name) and it didn't affect the language of Britain to any great extent, seeing as we spoke a Norse/Germanic kind of language anyway.
Quantum Bonus
20-02-2007, 22:23
the best wine in the world no longer comes from France.

Yup. Champagne isn't actually French. It was a Brit that made it for the first time. the only french part of it are the grapes that come from the Champagne region.
Yootopia
20-02-2007, 22:27
Yup. Champagne isn't actually French. It was a Brit that made it for the first time. the only french part of it are the grapes that come from the Champagne region.
Champagne (or more to the point, sparkling wines in general) is generally crap. Dislike the stuff a lot. But then I'm hardly an expert, to be honest.

Red is much nicer, IMO.

And French wine is good, but some of the South American stuff is better, and Hungarian wine is quite good, also.

My main wine recommendation, however, is don't even consider drinking German wine. It's horrendous. I'm sorry if anyone here is a German vinier, but argh. Blech.
Kohlstein
20-02-2007, 22:31
Neither one. Both are a bunch of hypocrites. They created empires by wrongfully invading other countries, but had the audacity to protest Germany's invasion of Poland, even though Western Poland was German land, whereas Africa is neither French nor British land.
Anti-Social Darwinism
20-02-2007, 22:37
My main wine recommendation, however, is don't even consider drinking German wine. It's horrendous. I'm sorry if anyone here is a German vinier, but argh. Blech.

I like Gewurtztramminer, of course the kind I get is made in California.
Soviestan
20-02-2007, 22:49
England.
Chumblywumbly
20-02-2007, 22:49
I like Gewurtztramminer, of course the kind I get is made in California.
Nah, what you want is to get a nice bottle of Buckfast:

http://www.thedrinkshop.com/images/products/main/1646/1646.jpg

Now that’s classy!
East Nhovistrana
20-02-2007, 22:49
Neither one. Both are a bunch of hypocrites. They created empires by wrongfully invading other countries, but had the audacity to protest Germany's invasion of Poland, even though Western Poland was German land, whereas Africa is neither French nor British land.

Er... yeah....
Wow. Er...
God damn, poor Hitler. We really treated that guy shabbily.
:rolleyes:

Edit: just looked through some of Kohlstein's posts. An educational experience...
October3
20-02-2007, 22:56
Neither one. Both are a bunch of hypocrites. They created empires by wrongfully invading other countries, but had the audacity to protest Germany's invasion of Poland, even though Western Poland was German land, whereas Africa is neither French nor British land.

Modern day references welcomed.

And I think the whole Nazi party plans of genocide and planned (or succesful - to a point) invasions of said countries had something to do with that whole war thing.

One other thing - Britain won WWII single handed - America, don't even start. If your not in the fight from the beginning then you don't count.
South Adrea
20-02-2007, 22:58
All of them except for the ones that sound like...well...basically your version of our redneck accents, as I can't stand accents that make people sound like ignorant idiotic oafs.

Thats why I hate your accents!! maybe we can be friends?
Rhursbourg
20-02-2007, 23:20
I know this is tad off subjecty but if you want a good book about the normans and there impact on world culture espcially on what they where like when they invaded England then try The Normans by Trevor Rowley
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Normans-Revealing-History-Paperback/dp/0752428810/sr=1-39/qid=1172009847/ref=sr_1_39/203-6700036-0947913?ie=UTF8&s=books
Allegheny County 2
20-02-2007, 23:44
Modern day references welcomed.

And I think the whole Nazi party plans of genocide and planned (or succesful - to a point) invasions of said countries had something to do with that whole war thing.

One other thing - Britain won WWII single handed - America, don't even start. If your not in the fight from the beginning then you don't count.

Single handed my ass. Go back and study history October3. Britain most assuredly did not win the war singlehandedly. There was no way in hell Britain could have won that war singlehandedly. The Soviet Union could have won te war singlehandedly but they had the population to do it.

As to not being in the war from the start, go back and read up on Lend-lease and the other economic support we were giving the allies.

Grow up and learn history.
Chumblywumbly
20-02-2007, 23:53
Dear Christ people, please don’t turn this into a WWII debate.
New Stalinberg
21-02-2007, 00:29
UK - had to fight them in two wars, then give them aid in two wars. I think they owe us now.

France - They saved us, we saved them.
Ariddia
21-02-2007, 00:33
Oh, one thing I'll say for Britain: It excells as detective fiction, both written and television. The sheer volume of production in that field is mind-blowing (and a lot of it is good); that's one area where France (and every other country in the world) can't hope to compete.
Ariddia
21-02-2007, 00:35
UK - had to fight them in two wars, then give them aid in two wars. I think they owe us now.

France - They saved us, we saved them.

If you're American or Canadian, the UK finished paying back its war debt to you a few months ago. It was in the news.
Europa Maxima
21-02-2007, 00:45
Jame or John Stuart?
John Stuart. :)
NorthNorthumberland
21-02-2007, 15:43
If you're American or Canadian, the UK finished paying back its war debt to you a few months ago. It was in the news.

Have the Germans finished paying off their war debts to the Allies. And does the money we demanded after WW1 still count after WW2. It was seveal billion pounds, thats in the trillions these days.
New Xero Seven
21-02-2007, 16:35
La France.
The Jade Star
21-02-2007, 16:40
Been to both.
London was nicer. All the signs in Paris are in French and only French.
Also, people in London pick up after their dogs.
The Vuhifellian States
21-02-2007, 16:44
I like Britain better because I can speak the language. If I knew French I would like France just as equal.
Drake and Dragon Keeps
21-02-2007, 17:27
Been to both.
London was nicer. All the signs in Paris are in French and only French.
Also, people in London pick up after their dogs.

Added bold to the importent bit, I found the same was true when I went to Paris myself, dog s**t everywhere. Paris was a big disapointment for me, though when I visted the town my home town is twinned with in the east of France I was much more impressed.

I would vote the UK, though I am biased :D

The food I had in France was good, about the same quality I found back in the UK. The only food area they fall down in is fried food, English/Scottish breakfast is a good way to start the weekend and noone beats Glasgow at deepfried anything (except maybe turkey, crazy american deepsouth;) ).
Drake and Dragon Keeps
21-02-2007, 17:43
Have the Germans finished paying off their war debts to the Allies. And does the money we demanded after WW1 still count after WW2. It was seveal billion pounds, thats in the trillions these days.

Nope, the Great depression caused most countries to default on their debts and so they were quitely forgotten about. Screwed over the UK a lot as it had borrowed money from the US and then lent it out to other countries (don't know why but it was stupid to do so).
Yootopia
21-02-2007, 23:11
UK - had to fight them in two wars, then give them aid in two wars. I think they owe us now.
You didn't have to fight us in two wars, you chose to, and the second was particularly moronic.

"No really, look, the world, we're a proper state with an army and things! Look!"
"Sorry, we're a bit busy with Napoleon to care right now... come back in 110 years, when we really start being interested"

As far as aid goes in the first world war - oh yeah, thanks for arriving extremely late and then using our kit and that of the French. Cheers. Really helped. A lot.

The second world war - cheers for the Lend-Lease, not only did you get all of our gold, we've only just paid you cheeky bastards back. On the other hand - you also only did any proper fighting in the Western Front in 1944-45. Yes, you were in Tunisia for a week and you helped in Crete and Italy, which didn't really make the blindest bit of difference. Mussolini's "government" was in a shitty state since the start of '42. It would have fallen in May '45 regardless of whether we fought them 43-45 anyway.


And we're helping you in Iraq and Afghanistan in your War on Islam, too.
France - They saved us, we saved them.
*coughs*

It wasn't just you yanks who saved the French in the second world war. We did to, you know...

And as to the Great War - the French had to equip, train and protect your guys when you finally turned up, pretty much right up until the end.
Proggresica
21-02-2007, 23:15
I chose France out of spite from losing the tri-nations final to England. WAIT FOR THE WORLD CUP BITCHES! WE WILL LOSE TO SOMEONE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!
Dakini
21-02-2007, 23:17
I've never been to either, they both look like lovely places that I would like to visit someday though.
Carnivorous Lickers
21-02-2007, 23:24
in spite of a warbling twat, I pick Britian.
Chumblywumbly
22-02-2007, 02:00
...noone beats Glasgow at deepfried anything
Damn straight.
Urbaan
22-02-2007, 02:21
First off, the Swedish numpty that called Wales inconsequential and keeps having a go at the UK is a muptard of the highest order. Sweden is one of the most pointless and insignificent countries in the world, it truly is.

I seriously regret Britain and the US saving Europe from the Nazi's, we should have left well alone and let them get on with it.

France better than the UK? Ha ha. They're better at waving white flags, but nothing else.
SeaCaribbea
22-02-2007, 02:33
The UK, there's dog poop all over paris and it smells like someone peed in a month old garbage can
Nadkor
22-02-2007, 19:30
First off, the Swedish numpty that called Wales inconsequential and keeps having a go at the UK is a muptard of the highest order. Sweden is one of the most pointless and insignificent countries in the world, it truly is.

Well, that may or may not be true about Sweden, but they still make Wales look inconsequential.
Ariddia
23-02-2007, 08:10
First off, the Swedish numpty that called Wales inconsequential and keeps having a go at the UK is a muptard of the highest order. Sweden is one of the most pointless and insignificent countries in the world, it truly is.


Have you been to Sweden? I have. It's a lovely place, with very nice people.


I seriously regret Britain and the US saving Europe from the Nazi's, we should have left well alone and let them get on with it.

France better than the UK? Ha ha. They're better at waving white flags, but nothing else.

Uhuh. Why don't you go and get yourself an education? Oh, right. Because that would mean you'd have to think, and we wouldn't want to subject you to the pain of opening up that narrow, simplistic, ignorant mind of yours, now would we...?
Honourable Angels
23-02-2007, 09:59
Have you been to Sweden? I have. It's a lovely place, with very nice people.



Uhuh. Why don't you go and get yourself an education? Oh, right. Because that would mean you'd have to think, and we wouldn't want to subject you to the pain of opening up that narrow, simplistic, ignorant mind of yours, now would we...?

The problem is though...I think he's right...I cant actually think of a war...except the 100 years war and 1066 (which was actually the Normans) that the French has won...

It reminds me of when i went on a French exchange, i remember asking my exchanges father, who was a tank driver, if it was regulation to have a white flag on board.

They managed to find it funny though. Shame.