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I was just thinking about stereotypes, as evidenced by my 'Stereotypes' thread, strangely enough, and I started thinking about how some people defy them. For example, in Britain there is a strong stereotype that people who wear so-called 'hoodies' are yobs; I'm a fairly good counter-example. I'm a fairly intelligent Grammar school student with a strong sense of morality and a keen interest in academic subjects such as physics, linguistics, philosophy, mathematics and various other things. I spend virtually all of my time indoors and I tend to be relatively nice to other people in real life and on the Internet, unless you count being depressed by the apparent stupidity of many humans as not nice (since I'm the one who suffers with the depression, doesn't that make me the victim? :p).

How about you?
Do you defy any stereotypes about your nation/group?

Ilaer

I am a conservative Christian who is in a punk band......what do you think?

I was born in Mississippi, raised in Alabama for five years.
My great-great Grandfather was a Grand Wizard of the KKK. His father fought for the Confederates in the Civil War (although it was apparently because 'those damn feds' burned his barn down or something, as opposed to silly things like states rights or slavery).

And yet, here I am, champion Fence-Sitter and almost-but-not-quite agnostic.

I am a conservative Christian who is in a punk band......what do you think?

That's a good example.

Ilaer

I was born in Mississippi, raised in Alabama for five years.
My great-great Grandfather was a Grand Wizard of the KKK. His father fought for the Confederates in the Civil War (although it was apparently because 'those damn feds' burned his barn down or something, as opposed to silly things like states rights or slavery).

And yet, here I am, champion Fence-Sitter and almost-but-not-quite agnostic.

That's possibly the most interesting defiance of stereotype that I've ever read. I congratulate you on that; I wouldn't advise telling many people that one of your ancestors was a member of the KKK though, never mind a Grand Wizard; they probably wouldn't take it very well. It'd be a bit like saying that you were a descendant of Hitler, knowing people's inability to judge a person by their individual characteristics.

Ilaer

I was just thinking about stereotypes, as evidenced by my 'Stereotypes' thread, strangely enough, and I started thinking about how some people defy them. For example, in Britain there is a strong stereotype that people who wear so-called 'hoodies' are yobs; I'm a fairly good counter-example. I'm a fairly intelligent Grammar school student with a strong sense of morality and a keen interest in academic subjects such as physics, linguistics, philosophy, mathematics and various other things. I spend virtually all of my time indoors and I tend to be relatively nice to other people in real life and on the Internet, unless you count being depressed by the apparent stupidity of many humans as not nice (since I'm the one who suffers with the depression, doesn't that make me the victim? :p).

How about you?
Do you defy any stereotypes about your nation/group?

Ilaer

So... you copycatted your own thread?

Pretty low.

That's possibly the most interesting defiance of stereotype that I've ever read. I congratulate you on that; I wouldn't advise telling many people that one of your ancestors was a member of the KKK though, never mind a Grand Wizard; they probably wouldn't take it very well. It'd be a bit like saying that you were a descendant of Hitler, knowing people's inability to judge a person by their individual characteristics.

Ilaer

They usually calm down when they hear that another great-to-the-somethingth grandfather won the CMoH for the Union when he and his men charged a Confederate cannon battery with nothing but knives and bayonettes :P
Oh, and its possible that Im directly related to this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ross_%28Cherokee_chief%29), but we cant prove it. Which is too bad, really. I was looking forward to free college.

So... you copycatted your own thread?

Pretty low.

Nah. I just had two related but distinct ideas for a thread.
So sue me.

Ilaer

They usually calm down when they hear that another great-to-the-somethingth grandfather won the CMoH for the Union when he and his men charged a Confederate cannon battery with nothing but knives and bayonettes :P
Oh, and its possible that Im directly related to this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ross_%28Cherokee_chief%29), but we cant prove it. Which is too bad, really. I was looking forward to free college.

Move to the United Kingdom and claim some sort of benefits or other. That gets you free college. :rolleyes:

I have a friend who claims they're related to Isaac Newton, which isn't as absurd as it may seem, but I still have difficulty believing them.
They certainly don't show any of his intelligence and flair.

Ilaer

I am a conservative Christian who is in a punk band......what do you think?

I think your bank mist seriously suck shit. Sex pistols type songs about waiting until you are married and going to church. About as lame as Christopher Reeve after the accident.

Move to the United Kingdom and claim some sort of benefits or other. That gets you free college. :rolleyes:

I have a friend who claims they're related to Isaac Newton, which isn't as absurd as it may seem, but I still have difficulty believing them.
They certainly don't show any of his intelligence and flair.

Ilaer

Nah, the UK is too soggy for me. Besides, the local plant life doesnt try to kill you in most of Europe, so whats the fun in going outside? ;)

Hoodies, eh? The one time I got stopped by the police, I was wearing one of those. Now I don't wear them at all because of that. :(

I'm far too confusing and eclectic to break stereotypes. :cool:

Nah, the UK is too soggy for me. Besides, the local plant life doesnt try to kill you in most of Europe, so whats the fun in going outside? ;)

*laughs out loud, refusing to use the common acronym*
How about bird flu and incompetent governments? Those dangerous enough?

At least the UK doesn't have fire ants...
Seriously, they're my biggest fear when it comes to the USA. They sound do dangerous...

And London gets more sunshine than Paris, by the way! It's official!

Ilaer

I think your bank mist seriously suck shit. Sex pistols type songs about waiting until you are married and going to church. About as lame as Christopher Reeve after the accident.

my songs are about my life, and my views, I don't think any of them are about waiting until I am married or going to church......at least I don't remember them being about that.

I am the only Christian in the band, the bass player is a Lavey Satanist, the drummer is an agnostic and the guitar player is.......actually I don't know, she doesn't talk about religion much.

I am in 3 bands actually, but two don't count, since one of them only plays one venue and the other is with my kids.

my songs are about my life, and my views, I don't think any of them are about waiting until I am married or going to church......at least I don't remember them being about that.

I am the only Christian in the band, the bass player is a Lavey Satanist, the drummer is an agnostic and the guitar player is.......actually I don't know, she doesn't talk about religion much.

I am in 3 bands actually, but two don't count, since one of them only plays one venue and the other is with my kids.

Oh well thats o.k then.

Oh well thats o.k then.

do you honestly think that I care what you think is o.k.?

do you honestly think that I care what you think is o.k.?

Careful... he'll commit sodomy on you! Not pleasant for anyone.
He already threatened someone else with it...

Ilaer

I am a conservative Christian who is in a punk band......what do you think? Is being a conservative ethnonationalist into death metal breaking a stereotype or is it being part of one?

do you honestly think that I care what you think is o.k.?

I think you secretly do. Hey now Robbie Williams is in rehab and Britney is insane you could "squeeze" into the market. Shine on you crazy diamond. ;)

How about you?
Do you defy any stereotypes about your nation/group?

Ilaer
I live in Hawaii, and I don't surf, nor do I live in a Grass Hut, spend all day at the beach, swim, have a tan and say "dude" with every sentence.

I also don't call everyone not from Hawaii a "Haole"

I am Japanese and Math isn't my strong suit. neither is science.

Careful... he'll commit sodomy on you! Not pleasant for anyone.
He already threatened someone else with it...

Ilaer
:eek:

I think you secretly do. Hey now Robbie Williams is in rehab and Britney is insane you could "squeeze" into the market. Shine on you crazy diamond. ;)
I don't really care. I just hate it when people make assumptions based on ignorance.

I like being local anyway, the last time one of my bands got a recording contract with a label all hell broke loose, and we don't speak anymore. Being a local band has it's rewards, I can go be in my band, and still be home with my kids whenever I want. In fact, most of the time my kids can come see me play.

I just now saw your sig.....I remember you ;) Huzzah! I have minor interweb fame!

Is being a conservative ethnonationalist into death metal breaking a stereotype or is it being part of one?

that's a hard question.......I could go either way.

I just now saw your sig.....I remember you ;)

Is being a conservative ethnonationalist into death metal breaking a stereotype or is it being part of one?

Depends.
Are you a true conservative or a modern?
True: congratulations, you're in!
Modern: Go away, stereotypical persony thingy. :D

Actually, stay as long as you want. We need more posts anyway.

Ilaer

*laughs out loud, refusing to use the common acronym*
How about bird flu and incompetent governments? Those dangerous enough?

At least the UK doesn't have fire ants...
Seriously, they're my biggest fear when it comes to the USA. They sound do dangerous...

And London gets more sunshine than Paris, by the way! It's official!

Ilaer


But the UK doesnt have these:
http://www.blueplanetbiomes.org/images/teddy_bear_cholla2.jpg
Dont you just want to hug them? ;)

Irish style conservative.;)

Well, I saw this on the Stereotypes thread...
yes, that's the way you are stereotyped here, and your tourists don't seem to contradict that.

some others:
japanese: always take photographs of everything.
british: drink tea like mentioned above, are also always serious (stiff upperlip).
french: not very clean.
netherlands: stupid (and everything that's bad)

the cool thing about being as small as Begium is that there is no stereotype for us.

...but every time I think of England, I think of Doctor Who and Monty Python.

England = drunk and disorderly. That has been the stereotype since the 18th century.

Well, I'm white but not a dumb cracker so I suppose that is defying a stereotype about certain Americans. ;)

I think a lot more people DEFY stereotypes than actually fit them...

Especially when you get the stereotype of, say, a homosexual man. You get the idea of someone prancing about in a dress maybe, or talking about fashion in a really high pitched voice.

So it will come as a shock to some to learn that I speak in a low bass voice, hate dressing like a girl - heck, I can't even stand looking at another guy in drag. I do -not- like taking things up my ---, I could care less what clothing I wear, I don't hang around in bars and get drunk, I don't sleep around, I'm not a drug addict, I've never attempted suicide, my parents are not religious christians that are out to get me nor are they super-supportive, I do have some female friends but my best friend is a 100% straight guy. I do not regularly dance, I am an introvert, but I am also not an emo (Hate wearing makeup). The only part of the stereotype I even come close to fitting is that I am a bit of an actor and artiste.

...and yet I'm gay.

Well, I'm white but not a dumb cracker so I suppose that is defying a stereotype about certain Americans. ;)

I bet you ain't no cracker,;) love!!

But the UK doesnt have these:
http://www.blueplanetbiomes.org/images/teddy_bear_cholla2.jpg
Dont you just want to hug them? ;)

But... but... that would hurt.

Well, I saw this on the Stereotypes thread...


...but every time I think of England, I think of Doctor Who and Monty Python.

I saw my first Monty Python film not that long ago.
It was funny.
Doctor Who's good too, especially Army of Darkness and Doomsday in the (second?) series.

England = drunk and disorderly. That has been the stereotype since the 18th century.

But I'm English and I'm teetotal...

Ilaer

I bet you ain't no cracker,;) love!!

Why, thank you! I'm always flattered by such compliments! :fluffle: :p

But I'm English and I'm teetotal...

Ilaer You think that's breaking a stereotype? I'm English-Irish and I don't underage drink.

You think that's breaking a stereotype? I'm English-Irish and I don't underage drink.

Are you sure you're even human? A true English/Irishman would never be able to stand such a strain on their system.
You've got to be an alien, even if you yourself do not know it.
*plays X-Files music*

Ilaer

Yes I do. In my situation with indian descent and similar people in my age group the attitude wit them is to only hang out with other indian people and listen to rap and induan music only. It's all about tradition. Well I'm a fan of rock, hate mosts kinds of rap, have a white girlfriend *shock horror* and the irony of it all is that out of the group of people I personally know who are like that am 1 of 2 people who have been to India yet they try to tell me what it is to be indian. In my opinion the majority of them are xenophobic pricks.

One of the most (frustrating) common stereotypes I hear about Indians is that we are extremely poor tippers, and tend to be very good students in school.

I am neither.

But... but... that would hurt.

Ilaer

Bah, all the poor Chollas need is a bit of love.

Yes I do. In my situation with indian descent and similar people in my age group the attitude wit them is to only hang out with other indian people and listen to rap and induan music only. It's all about tradition. Well I'm a fan of rock, hate mosts kinds of rap, have a white girlfriend *shock horror* and the irony of it all is that out of the group of people I personally know who are like that am 1 of 2 people who have been to India yet they try to tell me what it is to be indian. In my opinion the majority of them are xenophobic pricks.

To add further to my post...I'm this guy with probably an extra 100 pounds and a beard.

To add further to my post...I'm this guy with probably an extra 100 pounds and a beard.

You're future me?!

Are you sure you're even human? A true English/Irishman would never be able to stand such a strain on their system.
You've got to be an alien, even if you yourself do not know it.
*plays X-Files music*

Ilaer It might change after the rugby. Not that I follow the rugby but - meh, excuses.

Yes I do. In my situation with indian descent and similar people in my age group the attitude wit them is to only hang out with other indian people and listen to rap and induan music only. It's all about tradition. Well I'm a fan of rock, hate mosts kinds of rap, have a white girlfriend *shock horror* and the irony of it all is that out of the group of people I personally know who are like that am 1 of 2 people who have been to India yet they try to tell me what it is to be indian. In my opinion the majority of them are xenophobic pricks. Are you saying that being assimilated (such a Borg term) is breaking a stereotype? :eek:

It might change after the rugby. Not that I follow the rugby but - meh, excuses.

Are you saying that being assimilated (such a Borg term) is breaking a stereotype? :eek:

According to that lot who hate almost anything to do with the British society. I heard one guy say to my friend and I quote:

"Isn't being white boring? Surely you'd want to be indian instead?"

You're future me?!

Looks that way. Kinda bleak, huh?

i defy the male stereotype of liking spectator sports by finding spectator sports boring. i also don't like porn. i defy the ginger stereotype by not having a quick temper. i defy the scottish stereotype by having an english accent (ok that doesn't really count).

i defy the male stereotype of liking spectator sports by finding spectator sports boring. i also don't like porn. i defy the ginger stereotype by not having a quick temper. i defy the scottish stereotype by having an english accent (ok that doesn't really count). No, no, I'm sorry, you don't exist. Or if you do then you're evidently some kind of relict elf.

Looks that way. Kinda bleak, huh?

But this means I get a cool beard. This can only be a good thing.

as far as appearance, I look like a metalhead, and I am, but, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the stereotype of a metalhead is someone who is just constantly getting drunk, not exactly a scholar, that sort of thing. I'm actually quite the opposite.

as far as appearance, I look like a metalhead, and I am, but, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the stereotype of a metalhead is someone who is just constantly getting drunk, not exactly a scholar, that sort of thing. I'm actually quite the opposite.

I must confess that I don't actually know what a metalhead is.

Ilaer

But this means I get a cool beard. This can only be a good thing.

I can't believe I was an optimist at one point. :)

I can't believe I was an optimist at one point. :)

Optimism rules.

I must confess that I don't actually know what a metalhead is.

Ilaer

just a person who listens to a lot of metal. (music)

I am a conservative Christian who is in a punk band......what do you think?

Oh great, here comes the apocalypse.

just a person who listens to a lot of metal. (music)

Ah. Thank you.

Optimism rules.

But cynicists and pessimists are more often correct.
I tend towards cynicism myself.

Ilaer

Ah. Thank you.



But cynicists and pessimists are more often correct.
I tend towards cynicism myself.

Ilaer

True. Buty lifes too short. Enjoy it. I'm not that kind of gu who just lays back and lets everything happen. If my beliefs are challenged I'd fight to defend them. But optimism ftw :)

But cynicists and pessimists are more often correct.
I tend towards cynicism myself.There's no contradiction between cynicism & optimism. Pessimism, on the other hand, is just a recipe for depression.

On topic: I don't know that I defy any stereotypes. Possibly that don't suffer from soapophobia though I'm a punker. Then again, I never met one who did, so I think that'd be prejudice rather than an actual stereotype.

There's no contradiction between cynicism & optimism. Pessimism, on the other hand, is just a recipe for depression.

On topic: I don't know that I defy any stereotypes. Possibly that don't suffer from soapophobia though I'm a punker. Then again, I never met one who did, so I think that'd be prejudice rather than an actual stereotype.

I think there's supposed to be a subtle difference; not that I can remember what it is.
I'm often depressed in any case; thrice in my life have I suffered from serious depression.

Ilaer

I think there's supposed to be a subtle difference; not that I can remember what it is.Optimism is a tendency to look on the bright side of things. Pessimism is the opposite. You could say one's a construtive worldview, and the other's defeatist. Cynicism has nothing to do with either, but (usually) refers to the idea that people act out of selfishness (not to be confused with self-interest).I'm often depressed in any case; thrice in my life have I suffered from serious depression.Now if you were an optimist, you'd prolly start eating vitamins, excercising, forcing yourself to socialise more & seek professional help - because those things tend to be sufficient remedy. If you were a pessimist, you'd prolly assume they wouldn't suffice, don't bother trying, and thus proving your pessimism correct.

I'm fairly popular and geeky. And despite being geeky, I also get to be class clown. So I get to fit into three categories at once. Four, if you count somebody's random description of me as as "wanna-be goth". (I don't understand that. I wear black sometimes, and I have a pierced ear. That's it. I don't run [or more accurately perhaps, trip around] in chain pants, or wear makeup)

Well... let's see: I'm gay, but strongly right-wing (equally in favour of anarcho-capitalism as well as ultraminimal monarchy), and detest most "liberals", egalitarians and commies. I read a lot and I am a loner (again, defies the happy-happy, social gay stereotype), but not a geek (in fact I look down on those). I admire powerful women, but cannot stand most feminists and their ilk (especially male) - as Rand would say, I hero-worship such women. I'm not doing interior design or fashion, but rather Economics with philosophy. And I am into gothic metal and rock, and dress somewhat like a metalhead.

I'm a geek but I don't wear glasses. Also I'm skinny as hell.

strongly right-wing (equally in favour of anarcho-capitalism as well as ultraminimal monarchy)

detest most "liberals", egalitarians and commies

not a geek (in fact I look down on those)

cannot stand most feminists and their ilk (especially male)

Remind me again why we don't hate each other? ;)

Remind me again why we don't hate each other? ;)
I don't know - you're an unusual case. :p

I don't know - you're an unusual case. :p

So I guess I must defy some of the stereotypes associated with hard left egalitarian male feminist communists....

So I guess I must defy some of the stereotypes associated with hard left egalitarian male feminist communists....
Keep in mind I did say most - not all. ;)

I know a liberal who's sort of a redneck.

Hmm...

Apparently, I defy stereotypes by doing good on the SAT. Out of two hundred kids, I didn't see a single other black one at the awards ceremony.

Also, I know more colors than any guy should know.

I'm a drama kid, and I'm not a total queer.
I'm an aspiring actress and I'm not a Paris Hilton-loving airhead with a modelling contract.
I get straight A's, and I don't study every night and want to go to University (or, if I do, it'll be the theatre program).
I'm a classically trained singer, but I listen to stupid weird non-classical music.
I'm a teenager and I'm not politically and socially apathetic.
I.....am drawing a blank.

Nope, I'm fat and lazy.

despite being both crusty and meaty, i contain no gristle. similarly, while i am frothy and hoppy i contain no fizz.

Nope, I'm fat and lazy.
Oh, well I guess I break that one too - I'm skinny and lazy. :p

Oh, well I guess I break that one too - I'm skinny and lazy. :p

You are a disappointment to all fatties.

I'm a blond Southern woman.

And I'm intelligent, have a BS in computer science, work as a computer technician, play Magic: the Gathering, cosplay, and love action films.

I am a white girl who likes chinese guys

I am a conservative Christian who is in a punk band......what do you think?

Oh please, you ARE a stereotype. The ultimate rebels convert these days, it's all the rage :D

As for me...I'm an educated Indian. A credit to my race and all. That's a stereotype of sorts...don't know that I'm bucking it.

I am an...

African American handicapped homosexual, yet...

I talk like a normal human being, I wear Abercrombie & Fitch (ZOMG LOL U J0CK!), I don't depend on others to take care of me, and I don't talk with a lisp or whine/like a girl.

BOOM!
;)

Wow you are THE ULTIMATE minority. But are you a woman?Unfortunately that I am not. I am, however a vegetarian, and I was homeschooled before college, and... and... and... damn, nothing else.|

WHOA, MAJOR TIME WARP. Yo, Rainbow person, I'm up here!!!!

I am a white girl who likes chinese guys

Yeah, I just like Chinese girls.

I am an...

African American handicapped homosexual, yet...

BOOM!
;)

Wow you are THE ULTIMATE minority. But are you a woman?

Yeah, I just like Chinese girls.

Yay Chinese girls!

I'm an agnostic too, ZOMG! :eek:

And... I'm ambidextrous

p.s. my other post is like... way up there for some reason.

Wow you are THE ULTIMATE minority. But are you a woman?

And an atheist. and left handed.

How 'bout autistic too?

She's handicapped that covers it

And an atheist. and left handed.
How 'bout autistic too?

I R malez, loller, yo.

Yeah, I just like Chinese girls.

But no ones supposed to like Chinese guys so I'm defying stereo types.

Hawt Asian Chickz are popular so you're normal.

Oh please, you ARE a stereotype. The ultimate rebels convert these days, it's all the rage :D
I am a pro-choice Southern Baptist?

that has to count right?

I think Japanese guys are hawt, but then that's not exactly the same is it?

I kinda meant all small eyed black haired cuties. But Asian means India to a lot of Europeans

But no ones supposed to like Chinese guys so I'm defying stereo types.
I think Japanese guys are hawt, but then that's not exactly the same is it?

White guys are hot...

Not as hot as my Persian boyfriend, though. :p

Damn. What's with all this damn time warping?

She's handicapped that covers it
She? :eek:

I think Japanese guys are hawt, but then that's not exactly the same is it?

Looks wise, yeah, I think it's pretty much the same.



I defy stereotypes by not defying any stereotype whatsoever. Almost.

I kinda meant all small eyed black haired cuties. But Asian means India to a lot of Europeans

I like the Japanese though, not so much the Chinese, although Vietnamese guys can be really cute.

*is married to a white guy*

I'm a massive nerd, and yet I am built like a linebacker. The football coach in high school kept trying to recruit me so he would have at least one good player not constantly on the verge of failing.

I'm trying really hard to think of stereotypes I might break, but nope.

I think I'm pretty much what you expect from the daughter of liberal academic bilingual parents living in a large Canadian city. This does not bother me incidentally. [/smug]

How about you?
Do you defy any stereotypes about your nation/group?

I can't think of a single gender stereotype I don't defy. And it's not even intentionally defiance in most cases, it's just that the stereotypes are such bullshit that simply existing is enough to defy them.

I don't think I defy any particular stereotypes about my ethnic group. Of course, I don't really know of many such stereotypes, so I might be wrong on that.

I conform to most of the stereotypes about people with my "religious orientation."

When it comes to stereotypes about my nation, I think I defy most of them, but not all.

I'm Chinese, and I get good marks, play chess and computer games, hope to be a doctor and wear glasses.

Crap.

Ooh, 2500 posts somewhere along the line!

I don't think I defy any stereotypes. :(

I grew up on a farm and was a US soldier but I'm a social democrat and am currently living in France.

Defying stereotypes is as easy as education. People who are stereotyped are usually because of the stereotype-ers lack of education, or the other way around. Either the person is ignorant and thinks they deserve a stereotype or the person is intelligent and thinks everyone of that sort are stupid. Get me? Education is key.

And I'm a white, Christian American from rural North Dakota, and I don't drink alcohol. Believe me, around here that is a stereotype.

And I'm a white, Christian American from rural North Dakota, and I don't drink alcohol. Believe me, around here that is a stereotype. I thought Christian Americans were very down on drink… or is that just in the South?

Stereotypes tend to be based on fact, and in some cases the stereotypees actually go out of their way to reinforce the stereotypes. Think black gangstas, the Irish in NY, or Aussies anywhere.

Do you defy any stereotypes about your nation/group?

Ilaer

Well, I was born in England to British parents. I live in England, I don't wear a tophat, monocle or drink tea in the afternoon and I'm regularly told to go back to my own country by Eastern Europeans.

Does that count?

I do however drink Real Ale, I like Spitfires and old wireless radios.

Yeah, I just like Chinese girls.

Everyone likes Chinese girls. But why limit yourself?

I'm an agnostic theist devout non-dogmatic Catholic, a feminist anti-racism anti-homophobia American conservative, a big hairy muscular guy who loves cars and women and martial arts and likes physics and writes poetry and song and cries openly in sad situations.

Defying stereotypes is unnecessary. They run away from me screaming.

How about you?
Do you defy any stereotypes about your nation/group?


Oh well...
Italians can't speak foreign languages... I speak 3.
Italians aren't tall... I'm 190 cm tall.
Italians like Verdi and Puccini... I prefer Beethoven and Wagner.
Italians drive cool sports cars... I drive a old battered VW Polo.
Italians like sunny weather... I like fog and snow.
Italians are mafiosi... I'm not, mafia doesn't exist... what a nice family you have, you don't want anything bad happening to them... minchia!
;)

Well, I was born in England to British parents. I live in England, I don't wear a tophat, monocle or drink tea in the afternoon and I'm regularly told to go back to my own country by Eastern Europeans.

Does that count?

I do however drink Real Ale, I like Spitfires and old wireless radios.

I am highly disappointed by the lack of top hat and monocle.

Oh well...
Italians can't speak foreign languages... I speak 3.
Italians aren't tall... I'm 190 cm tall.
Italians like Verdi and Puccini... I prefer Beethoven and Wagner.
Italians drive cool sports cars... I drive a old battered VW Polo.
Italians like sunny weather... I like fog and snow.
Italians are mafiosi... I'm not, mafia doesn't exist... what a nice family you have, you don't want anything bad happening to them... minchia!
;)

But you make pizzas by throwing them in the air, right?

But you make pizzas by throwing them in the air, right?

Minchia... of course!;) And while singing "Nel blu dipinto di blu" (aka Volare).

I am highly disappointed by the lack of top hat and monocle.

*gasps*

You weren't expecting these objects to be present were you? :eek: :p

But you make pizzas by throwing them in the air, right?

What about being good at plumbing? The Mario Bros. were certainly skillful.

i'm from a small island and my family is not inbred (as far as i know, not in the last several generations anyway).

Everyone should wear a top hat and monocle.
i second this motion.

EDIT: apparently i second it before it has been will be proposed. whoa existential.

*gasps*

You weren't expecting these objects to be present were you? :eek: :p


Everyone should wear a top hat and monocle.

Everyone should wear a top hat and monocle.

This guy looks good?

http://www.partydomain.co.uk/d-commerce/media/large_99672.jpg

This guy looks good?

http://www.partydomain.co.uk/d-commerce/media/large_99672.jpg

He'd be worse without them.

He'd be worse without them.

I'll have to take your word for it on that one.

Humm...well I'm simialr to you mate.

lets see... First off I'm a Skinhead, yet I'm one of the most anti-facist people you'll meet, I wear hoodies and things and I go to gigs yet i don't drink, I'ma farmer yet i'm a Socalist, I go to a grammer school but I want to abolish them, I play rugby but I'm not a meathead...

Humm...well I'm simialr to you mate.

lets see... First off I'm a Skinhead, yet I'm one of the most anti-facist people you'll meet, I wear hoodies and things and I go to gigs yet i don't drink, I'ma farmer yet i'm a Socalist, I go to a grammer school but I want to abolish them, I play rugby but I'm not a meathead... Wow, you must be very backward. Grammar schools were abolished, like, couple of decades ago.

I break a lot of stereotypes.

For an easy example - I'm female, and as a child I was something of a mathematical prodigy. I started competing in math and science competitions when I was about nine years old, and was even at that age both amused and annoyed by the shocked reactions of boys (and their parents, sadly enough) when I won.

Then, of course, there's the fact that, as a mathematical prodigy, I abandoned math completely after high school to study music and English, which I'd always liked more. That's a bit odd, too.

I'm also a socially competent geek, a female gamer, an alumna of an elite New England college who's not remotely wealthy and who finds "preppy" fashion idiotic, a liberal Midwesterner, a skirt-wearing tomboy, and, for all you musicians, an alto without back hair. :p

First you tell me if there are any stereotypes about half-Filipino females from California who grew up abroad and returned to the US for uni. Then I'll let you know if I defy them.

First you tell me if there are any stereotypes about half-Filipino females from California who grew up abroad and returned to the US for uni. Then I'll let you know if I defy them.

Hmm. Well, let's focus here. Start with californian stereotypes.

Hmm. Well, let's focus here. Start with californian stereotypes.
Let's see. I'm not blonde, I'm not an airhead, I don't live at the beach, I don't speak with that horrendous valley girl accent, and I only know one person who surfs (and he's from Hawaii). Good start?

Let's see. I'm not blonde, I'm not an airhead, I don't live at the beach, I don't speak with that horrendous valley girl accent, and I only know one person who surfs (and he's from Hawaii). Good start?

Indeed. Now, what about Filipinos?

Indeed. Now, what about Filipinos?
Err... don't know any stereotypes about Filipinos.

What about being good at plumbing? The Mario Bros. were certainly skillful.

The (Super) Mario Bros. never did a day of plumbing in their lives. Driving go-karts, fighting giant turtle monsters and stuff, though...

Wow, you must be very backward. Grammar schools were abolished, like, couple of decades ago.

according to wikipedia, grammar schools still exist in Kent, Buckinghamshire, Essex, Trafford, Wiltshire, The Wirral and Lincolnshire and London boroughs such as Bromley and Redbridge. You just had the bad luck of not living in one of those places.

As a US citizen with 50% German and 50% GB mix (have a book detailing ancestors back to Mayflower)-

1. I hate the French.
2. I laugh at ignorant jokes, including racist ones. (But I'm not, believe me.)
3. I eat fast food for my regular diet.
4. I like to drive my gas-guzzling, yet fast automobile.

How I break the mold-

1. I'm not afraid of Muslims (I'm friends with one, actually, the only difference between them and a normal person is THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE FUN)
2. I can actually speak a language outside of my local dialect of American English.
3. I hate football. American football, that is. I love "soccer."
4. I absolutely despise, loathe, and vehemently avoid filthy food from McDonald's.
5. I'm not mesmerized by the Eiffel Tower. It's a radio tower, with lights. I don't know how many homes or art stores I walk into, but everyone always have that damned tower.
6. I don't enjoy watching sports.
7. I don't enjoy watching the telly.
8. I call it a telly, not a TV.
9. I'm atheist and living in "The Bible Belt" of the US.
10. I can actually figure out how and why I'm not a typical American when asked.

"God bless America!"
My response: "Why, did America sneeze or something?"

Indeed. Now, what about Filipinos?

What the puck are you talking about? What do you want to know about Pilipinos?
:D
LOL

What the puck are you talking about? What do you want to know about Pilipinos?
:D
LOL
Ah. Well I certainly don't do that.

Ah. Well I certainly don't do that.

Was your first language Tagali, or did you learn English first? Usually, long time linguistic use of Tagali affect older Filipinos when they attempt to speak English.

3. I eat fast food for my regular diet.

How I break the mold-

4. I absolutely despise, loathe, and vehemently avoid filthy food from McDonald's.

So you like fast food but not fast food from McDonalds? Come on, man! No other fast food is worth anything! :p

Was your first language Tagali, or did you learn English first? Usually, long time linguistic use of Tagali affect older Filipinos when they attempt to speak English.
I don't speak more than a few words of Tagalog, period.

So you like fast food but not fast food from McDonalds? Come on, man! No other fast food is worth anything! :p

Ugh, I prefer the slop meat of Taco Bell to the "burgers" of McDonald's. At least I can tell the slop meat is actually meat from a dead cow. :)

I don't speak more than a few words of Tagalog, period.

Oops, sorry I kinda butchered the spelling there. You're probably similar to my Filipino friend then (although he's half Caucasian) where you don't fit the sterotypes. There was a Filipeno comedian that made a bunch of jokes about stereotypes of Filipinos, ranging from size of the "manhood" to the way all Filipinos age (insert funny looking face here). Can't remember his name though.

Oops, sorry I kinda butchered the spelling there. You're probably similar to my Filipino friend then (although he's half Caucasian) where you don't fit the sterotypes. There was a Filipeno comedian that made a bunch of jokes about stereotypes of Filipinos, ranging from size of the "manhood" to the way all Filipinos age (insert funny looking face here). Can't remember his name though.
I'm only half Filipino. And I'm female, so stereotypes about "manhood" don't really apply. ;)

Ugh, I prefer the slop meat of Taco Bell to the "burgers" of McDonald's. At least I can tell the slop meat is actually meat from a dead cow. :)

Taco Bell... you know you will... pay later for eating there. :p

I'm white. I don't defy a common stereotype, but rather, I reinforce a somewhat unknown stereotype - the Crazy White Boy. He'll smack you, he'll poke you, he'll definitely make the evening interesting and someone most likely -will- be in pain.

Yet I'm a dork. So I'm a pain-dealing dork. I suppose I defy the expectations with that one.

Err... don't know any stereotypes about Filipinos.

I do I do! Don't go to a Filipino BBQ because you'll be eating Rover. And when they laugh and tell you that you're eating dog...THEY AREN'T KIDDING.

Rather tasty though.

I'm only half Filipino. And I'm female, so stereotypes about "manhood" don't really apply. ;)

Did I ever tell you I have this weakness for filipinas? Like, insane weakness. Even if you're only half, I'd be humping your leg. Just a warning.

Oh... well this is more of a general Asian stereotype isn't it?

One of the original King of the Hill episodes involved Hank thinking his Laotian neighbor killed his dog and cooked it for his neighborhood BBQ. Stereotypes can really be amusing sometimes. :p

Maybe a general stereotype, but I don't buy it with anyone but the filipinos...they were so gleeful about it :D

I do I do! Don't go to a Filipino BBQ because you'll be eating Rover. And when they laugh and tell you that you're eating dog...THEY AREN'T KIDDING.

Rather tasty though.

Oh... well this is more of a general Asian stereotype isn't it?

One of the original King of the Hill episodes involved Hank thinking his Laotian neighbor killed his dog and cooked it for his neighborhood BBQ. Stereotypes can really be amusing sometimes. :p

I see I am going to have to guard my pets against those predatory Filipinos... ;)

And how did you know what I was going to say before I did?!? You must have some strange mental abilities! :eek:

Yeah, I'm amazing. MUAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

Maybe a general stereotype, but I don't buy it with anyone but the filipinos...they were so gleeful about it :D

I see I am going to have to guard my pets against those predatory Filipinos... ;)

And how did you know what I was going to say before I did?!? You must have some strange mental abilities! :eek:

I do I do! Don't go to a Filipino BBQ because you'll be eating Rover. And when they laugh and tell you that you're eating dog...THEY AREN'T KIDDING.

Rather tasty though.
Oh I forgot about that one! I've never eaten dog, and I don't know if my mom has or not. As for Filipino BBQs, I've been to a bunch of those but they never served dog meat. Lechon (http://www.gotouring.com/razzledazzle/images/malatmkt1-600.jpg), on the other hand...
Did I ever tell you I have this weakness for filipinas? Like, insane weakness. Even if you're only half, I'd be humping your leg. Just a warning.
I'm sure I could imagine far worse things to be humping my leg.

Did I ever tell you I have this weakness for filipinas? Like, insane weakness. Even if you're only half, I'd be humping your leg. Just a warning.

You would be entirely justified. She's hot. You'll have to fight for a place on her leg though.

You would be entirely justified. She's hot. You'll have to fight for a place on her leg though.

Wait...how do you know? Is there a pic up? *scurries to find it*

Wait...how do you know? Is there a pic up? *scurries to find it*
Heh. I suppose I should warn you, I don't really look Filipina.

What about being good at plumbing?


Nope... I'm more on electricity and computers.
Also I don't own a Vespa nor any other kind of scooter!:D

Nope... I'm more on electricity and computers.
Also I don't own a Vespa nor any other kind of scooter!:D

Damn, no Vespa? If you have an SUV then my world will simply implode.

I am Transgendered, some people think I am evil, others think I must be gay, neither of these things are true. The truth is that I am a Christian who was born Transgendered, and that there is a differance between gay people and transgendered people. I wish people would just live and let live allowing god to judge those he sees fit without their help.

I am Transgendered, some people think I am evil, others think I must be gay, neither of these things are true. The truth is that I am a Christian who was born Transgendered, and that there is a differance between gay people and transgendered people. I wish people would just live and let live allowing god to judge those he sees fit without their help.

Tits or gtfo!

(kidding, kidding. I'm terrible, I know)

The Mario Brothers were from Brooklyn.
They're supposed to be Italian, but yes, they were raised in Brooklyn. Then at the age of something or other they found a warp pipe back to the Mushroom Kingdom.
I always wondered how Nintendo explained the Italian part.

I'm a Nintendo fanboy, by the way.

Ilaer

The Mario Brothers were from Brooklyn.
They're supposed to be Italian, but yes, they were raised in Brooklyn. Then at the age of something or other they found a warp pipe back to the Mushroom Kingdom.

That's an entirely rational explanation by the good people of Nintendo. Sounds like mushrooms were heavily involved in the creative process there.

Breaking stereotypes:
I'm a journalist, yet I have a sense of professional responsibility. It's disheartening to see that so many other journalists are determined to keep our reputation in the mud, but... no I can't think of a way to put a positive slant on that. It's just disheartening.