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I've heard of people hallucinating after fasting or from sleep deprivation or fevers... are there better ways to do it though?

I would like to experience some hallucinations, but I don't have the means to acquire drugs to do so... I thought about trying to deprive myself of sleep but I kept getting headaches and feeling really tired before I even hit the 24 hour mark (yeah, I'm a wuss) I could see going without food or with very little food for a while, but I'm not sure how the safest way to do that is.

Yeah, unfortunately I don't have access to those either.

Although I do want to experiment with sensory deprivation.

Sensory deprivation tanks also work, but most people do not have access to such things.

Hallucinations are the brain malfunctioning in a seriously bad way. There is no safe way to experience them; if the brain is fucked up enough that you're hallucinating, bad, bad things are happening. Most hallucinogens are quite capable of burning out neurons; a fever high enough to induce hallucinations is quite literally cooking your brain; hallucinations due to food, water or sleep deprivation are caused by cellular death in the visual cortex (or audial cortex for hearing hallucinations).

This is not an experience you really want to have.

you can stay up longer if you drink a bunch of caffeine but it's not healthy.

I start to have olfactory hallucinations after 48 hours without sleep, those are fun.

I've heard of people hallucinating after fasting or from sleep deprivation or fevers... are there better ways to do it though?

I would like to experience some hallucinations, but I don't have the means to acquire drugs to do so... I thought about trying to deprive myself of sleep but I kept getting headaches and feeling really tired before I even hit the 24 hour mark (yeah, I'm a wuss) I could see going without food or with very little food for a while, but I'm not sure how the safest way to do that is.Just become a US citizen and you'll see terrorists everywhere...

Olfactory hallucinations?


And I probably could go without more sleep, but I have a tendency to not get a very good start, like I'll wake up already feeling crappy and it gets progressively worse. That's no way to start a sleep deprivation deal I think. But if hallucinations can start 48 hours in then I think I could try pushing myself that far...

That thing that Michael Hutchence liked doing might work. You might as well give it a whirl.

That thing that Michael Hutchence liked doing might work. You might as well give it a whirl.
What was that?

Just become a US citizen and you'll see terrorists everywhere...

:rolleyes:

Just become a US citizen and you'll see terrorists everywhere...


You win the thread.

strong cheese before bed. works sometimes.

actually you could order somethign in the mail that'll help you hallucinate.

Salvia Divinorum - have someone watch you. If you smoke it, the peak is intense but lasts for a minute or less (more likely less)

read up on it - you might be interested.

What was that?

autoerotic asphyxiation

Try hitting yourself with a baseball bat or large metal stick and or sniff lots of whiteout and sharpies

or so i've been told...

Olfactory hallucinations?
I smell things that aren't there. It's quite anxiety provoking.


And I probably could go without more sleep, but I have a tendency to not get a very good start, like I'll wake up already feeling crappy and it gets progressively worse. That's no way to start a sleep deprivation deal I think. But if hallucinations can start 48 hours in then I think I could try pushing myself that far...
to tell you the truth, no matter how fun it might be to hallucinate, the side effects from not sleeping are rarely worth it.......but it's a sacrifice I make for my family (or that's how I rationalize it, there are a ton of other things I could quit doing and actually sleep, but that would be logical and stuff)

Edit: Out of sequence, sorry

actually you could order somethign in the mail that'll help you hallucinate.

Salvia Divinorum - have someone watch you. If you smoke it, the peak is intense but lasts for a minute or less (more likely less)

read up on it - you might be interested.
I've heard about salvia, but I kinda want to try a non-drug way of doing it. I mean, I'm sure if I tried hard enough I could get some shrooms or maybe peyote or something, but that might be expensive and I would like to try it without drugs.

I've heard about salvia, but I kinda want to try a non-drug way of doing it. I mean, I'm sure if I tried hard enough I could get some shrooms or maybe peyote or something, but that might be expensive and I would like to try it without drugs.

if you really want to do it the hard way try to meditate a few hours each day, when you get good at it it wouldn't surprise me to have some kind of hallucination (not all hallucinations include a lot of colors etc). also search some stuff about meditation techniques because there is probably more to it than sitting with your legs crossed and moaning weird noises.
once a friend also told me about a technique to make yourself faint, but i can't quite remember it. you had to sit down with your head between your legs and hyperventilate and then stand up or something like that iirc.

good luck and try not to sustain serious brain damage :)

Try a bit of fly agaric (red mushrooms with little white spots) or try some ergot. They're not drugs.

You could eat some Amanitas Muscaria, a type of mushroom mentioned above as Fly Agaric. Or you could do some Datura...a deleriant, really, so you will hallucinate but think it is real, basically. I've heard no good things about datura though. Your best bet probably is Salvia Divinorum...any "non-drug" methods of making yourself hallucinate just seem to me like they would suck.


EDIT: My real advice is to eat some LSD. I would have said mushrooms, but I have never actually hallucinated on mushrooms (visual effects, yes, but not actual hallucinations), whereas I have on LSD. Never had Peyote/Mescaline, though,so I couldn't talk about it.

Fall asleep?

:confused:

You could eat some Amanitas Muscaria, a type of mushroom mentioned above as Fly Agaric. Or you could do some Datura...a deleriant, really, so you will hallucinate but think it is real, basically. I've heard no good things about datura though. Your best bet probably is Salvia Divinorum...any "non-drug" methods of making yourself hallucinate just seem to me like they would suck.


EDIT: My real advice is to eat some LSD. I would have said mushrooms, but I have never actually hallucinated on mushrooms (visual effects, yes, but not actual hallucinations), whereas I have on LSD. Never had Peyote/Mescaline, though,so I couldn't talk about it.
I wouldn't mind trying some LSD at some point. But I don't know a) where to get it or b) how much it is (I'm rather broke)

It's the same sort of problems with the mushrooms you suggested... I'm not going to go out and pick wild mushrooms and eat them, no matter how sure I am that they're the right ones because eating the wrong kinds of mushrooms can kill you pretty quickly.

Edit: 24 hours for this post to show up... :/

http://www.fixedearth.com/

Religion. :(

http://www.fixedearth.com/

Religion. :(
Hmm... I don't think I want to make myself stupid enough to believe in that sort of thing and hallucinate on account of that.

I wouldn't mind trying some LSD at some point. But I don't know a) where to get it or b) how much it is (I'm rather broke)

It's the same sort of problems with the mushrooms you suggested... I'm not going to go out and pick wild mushrooms and eat them, no matter how sure I am that they're the right ones because eating the wrong kinds of mushrooms can kill you pretty quickly.

I have done both, and I did hallucinate with the LSD but not with the mushrooms, mostly they made me dizzy.

Hmm... I don't think I want to make myself stupid enough to believe in that sort of thing and hallucinate on account of that.

But you have to admit that in this day and age, believing the Earth doesn't revolve around the sun and that the Speed of Light is a tool of religious conspiracy is some really potent hallucinations. Better than anything LSD could ever generate. :)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-67861386044103006

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061020200143AA5t8SX

http://www.43things.com/things/view/28011

Why do you want to hallucinate?

DO you want to see anythign specific?

DO you want to be convinced that the hallucination is real?

Do you want the hallucination to be an object or do you does it really only need to be a mark on teh wall that isnt there otr whatever?

edit: http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/otc/162906.html

If you can get a syringe and inject air into a vein just right that could set off some good ones.

I wouldn't mind trying some LSD at some point. But I don't know a) where to get it or b) how much it is (I'm rather broke)

It's the same sort of problems with the mushrooms you suggested... I'm not going to go out and pick wild mushrooms and eat them, no matter how sure I am that they're the right ones because eating the wrong kinds of mushrooms can kill you pretty quickly.

i believe you can find LSD in a little mushroom that grows on grains. it looks like a slightly longer black grain, when you eat that you should get hallucinations (or die). there is a theory that it was patialy responsible for entire villages being "possesed by the devil", because when that village's grain was infested everybody started acting quite weird. i don't know if it's safe though (and you'd better just buy regular LSD).

If you can get a syringe and inject air into a vein just right that could set off some good ones.
Isn't that somewhat likely to kill me?

I want safe hallucinations where I'm not going to die and can go back to normal sometime in the region of a day later, tops.

i believe you can find LSD in a little mushroom that grows on grains. it looks like a slightly longer black grain, when you eat that you should get hallucinations (or die). there is a theory that it was patialy responsible for entire villages being "possesed by the devil", because when that village's grain was infested everybody started acting quite weird. i don't know if it's safe though (and you'd better just buy regular LSD).

Thats ergot.

Thats ergot.

i just read a bit about it on wikipedia and it eems best if you don't try to eat ergot. :)

Isn't that somewhat likely to kill me?

I want safe hallucinations where I'm not going to die and can go back to normal sometime in the region of a day later, tops.


Not if you do it just right. Injecting pure alcohol is also an alternative.

If you can get a syringe and inject air into a vein just right that could set off some good ones.

How is an embolism going to help him hallucinate?

How is an embolism going to help him hallucinate?

well, if he doesn't die, maybe he would have one of those near death experience hallucinations.

Not if you do it just right. Injecting pure alcohol is also an alternative.

That would most certainly kill him. Or at least make him go blind.

i believe you can find LSD in a little mushroom that grows on grains. it looks like a slightly longer black grain, when you eat that you should get hallucinations (or die). there is a theory that it was patialy responsible for entire villages being "possesed by the devil", because when that village's grain was infested everybody started acting quite weird. i don't know if it's safe though (and you'd better just buy regular LSD).

My dictionary says that's called ergot. Or Mutterkorn in German ('mother corn'), probably because it can be used for abortions... I think you'll find that on rye.

Another question, why would you want to fuck up your brain?

That would most certainly kill him. Or at least make him go blind.

Maybe not. If he injected it directly into the glans.

Not if you do it just right. Injecting pure alcohol is also an alternative.

Yes, just practice until you stop dying. *nod*

You could always eat some toxic waste to induce brain tumors

The old Christian mystics (Hildegard vanBingen, Bridget of Sweden, etc) saw some pretty crazy stuff simply going for long periods without food or sleep. Of course, they probably already had some pretty nasty mental issues, so you shouldn't hold out too much hope for seeing a giant head covered entirely with eyes and a light so bright that it makes all dark.
Still, worth a shot.

Eat fly agaric mushrooms, the poison won't kill you and also you will hallucinate do a certain degree. I haven't tried this but apparently it works. A note of caution, however, fly agaric is listed in the poison section of my edible plants and fungi book. (along with ergot, death cap and foxgloves.)

My dictionary says that's called ergot. Or Mutterkorn in German ('mother corn'), probably because it can be used for abortions... I think you'll find that on rye.

yes, it's calles moederkoren in dutch
Another question, why would you want to fuck up your brain?
fun
That would most certainly kill him. Or at least make him go blind.
you don't go blind from pure alcohol (ethanol) you go blind from methanol. actually the cure for an acute methanol intoxination is an ethanol overdose. and i'm not sure if a small dose of pure ethanol could kill anyone (it's called being drunk).

Yeah, unfortunately I don't have access to those either.

Although I do want to experiment with sensory deprivation.

Sensory deprivation tanks also work, but most people do not have access to such things.

Ah, the joys of sensory deprivation... in the comfort of your own bathtub. How you ask. Quite simple. Close the door, fill up the tub and once you're ready, put a towel at the bottom of the door, blocking all light. If you can, turn off the light in the hall. In the bathroom, once the towel is down, make sure you know where all your bath things are then turn off the lights. It works very well; I've been doing this for a while now. In fact, I now shower in the dark; I can't shower any other way.

OKAY Guaranteed to induce hallucinations!

Take your thumbs, and jam them into the sides of your eyes while they're still open! Your vision will double, start to blur, go black, then you'll see Jesus!

Ah, the joys of sensory deprivation... in the comfort of your own bathtub. How you ask. Quite simple. Close the door, fill up the tub and once you're ready, put a towel at the bottom of the door, blocking all light. If you can, turn off the light in the hall. In the bathroom, once the towel is down, make sure you know where all your bath things are then turn off the lights. It works very well; I've been doing this for a while now. In fact, I now shower in the dark; I can't shower any other way.

how do you make sure you don't fall asleep and drown? and what's suposed to happen?

how do you make sure you don't fall asleep and drown? and what's suposed to happen?

I usually let my husband know when I am doing that, and I set an alarm to go off after a certain amount of time, he checks on my after that, although I could probably be dead by then........

I never thought of the towel by the door though, I might try that next time.

and I never hallucinated doing that, it just gets rid of my headache.

and I never hallucinated doing that, it just gets rid of my headache.

it does sound quite relaxing, i might trie that once.

As one who has experienced hallucinations, I have but one thing to say.

Stories about hallucinations are much cooler than experiencing them first hand. Imagine an eight-hour-long nightmare you cannot wake from...

Okay.... two things.

The active hallucinogenic compund found in rye mold is Lysergic Acid. LSD (Lysergic Acid Diethylamide) is a safer, more refined version which is less likely to cause brain damage.

Let's make that three things...

If you're really interested in experiencing hallucinations, Try waking yourself from rem sleep quickly. (set your alarm for 3AM) or take a series of cat-naps in the afternoon. That'll do the trick, and the disorientation will last a few minutes tops, instead of hours.

If all else fails......:headbang:

Passing out at 9Gs.

Ethanol is grain alcohol, methanol is wood alchohol. Pure would mean it's denatured. Any form of denatured alcohol would cause blindness regardless of the source.

Moonshine can, according to legend, blind you. Ethanol is moonshine without sugar, with a little gasoline in it so people don't drink it.

you don't go blind from pure alcohol (ethanol) you go blind from methanol. actually the cure for an acute methanol intoxination is an ethanol overdose. and i'm not sure if a small dose of pure ethanol could kill anyone (it's called being drunk).

Ethanol is grain alcohol, methanol is wood alchohol. Pure would mean it's denatured. Any form of denatured alcohol would cause blindness regardless of the source.

not true, I got drunk on Listerine once in rehab and I am not blind.

:eek:

Y'know Smunkee, you seem less and less like a mother every day. :p

Any form of denatured alcohol would cause blindness regardless of the source.
not true, I got drunk on Listerine once in rehab and I am not blind.

Ethanol is grain alcohol, methanol is wood alchohol. Pure would mean it's denatured. Any form of denatured alcohol would cause blindness regardless of the source.

isn't that because its denatured with methanol (and coloring) to make it undrinkable? and wouldn't pure alcohol mean that it's pure, like in 100% ethanol? and the source isn't important. it's important that the alcohol you drink isn't made into formaldehyde (wich makes you blind) and formic acid (wich kills you). this happens when you digest methanol.

I've heard of people hallucinating after fasting or from sleep deprivation or fevers... are there better ways to do it though?

I would like to experience some hallucinations, but I don't have the means to acquire drugs to do so... I thought about trying to deprive myself of sleep but I kept getting headaches and feeling really tired before I even hit the 24 hour mark (yeah, I'm a wuss) I could see going without food or with very little food for a while, but I'm not sure how the safest way to do that is.

actually, if you keep going (with the Sleep Deprivation) past the headaches and tiredness you should be getting to the hallucinations.

:eek:

Y'know Smunkee, you seem less and less like a mother every day. :p

I wasn't a mother then.

I am coming up on 8 years sober.....well, sober-ish, I haven't fallen back into addiction since then.

I wasn't a mother then.
I supposed I sort of figured.



I am coming up on 8 years sober.....well, sober-ish, I haven't fallen back into addiction since then.

This is more what I meant. It's hard to picture you as a teenager who cuts herself and then becoming an alcoholic. You just don't really seem like the type of person, from the stuff on NSG. I hope you stay sober, although seeing you posting on NSG drunk would be kind of funny. Especially if Ruffy and Ifreann were drunk at the same time. (Imagines jolt exploding from sheer insanity.)

not true, I got drunk on Listerine once in rehab and I am not blind.I think it depends on the AMOUNT consumed. so you got buzzed, but you probably didn't drink enough to cause blindness. ;)

I think it depends on the AMOUNT consumed. so you got buzzed, but you probably didn't drink enough to cause blindness. ;)

well, no, it tasted terrible, I was mostly trying to get a buzz so that detox wouldn't be so harsh.......:p (not exactly productive or intelligent)

well, no, it tasted terrible, I was mostly trying to get a buzz so that detox wouldn't be so harsh.......:p (not exactly productive or intelligent)

Yeah, especially given (Nowadays, at least), Listerine has stuff in it to make you throw up if you swallow to much. (Also, who the hell thought it was a good idea to put alcohol-based mouthwash in a rehab center?)

Yeah, especially given (Nowadays, at least), Listerine has stuff in it to make you throw up if you swallow to much. (Also, who the hell thought it was a good idea to put alcohol-based mouthwash in a rehab center?)

I was throwing up a lot before I drank it, so I don't know if it really affected me much.

I had a friend bring it, she didn't know why, and the rehab place let it in because apparently they didn't think that anyone would drink it.

I once stared at a piece of wood for about an hour. By the end I could swear it was a live lizard. I could see it squirming and moving about.

isn't that because its denatured with methanol (and coloring) to make it undrinkable? and wouldn't pure alcohol mean that it's pure, like in 100% ethanol? and the source isn't important. it's important that the alcohol you drink isn't made into formaldehyde (wich makes you blind) and formic acid (wich kills you). this happens when you digest methanol.

It's not necessarily dyed. I use it to clean my bearings. They methalate the alcohol which isn't the same as adding methanol.

It's been too long since chemistry. I can't remember if everclear will cause blindness at high doses or not now that I think about it.

Wood alcohol will always cause blindness in a high enough quantity.

It's not necessarily dyed. I use it to clean my bearings. They methalate the alcohol which isn't the same as adding methanol.

It's been too long since chemistry. I can't remember if everclear will cause blindness at high doses or not now that I think about it.

Wood alcohol will always cause blindness in a high enough quantity.

i don't know a lot about denaturation.

everclear is used to drink so i doubt it will make you go blind. (wiki) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everclear_%28alcohol%29)

you don't even have to drink a lot of it to go blind (and die eventually)

I was throwing up a lot before I drank it, so I don't know if it really affected me much.

I had a friend bring it, she didn't know why, and the rehab place let it in because apparently they didn't think that anyone would drink it.

Why is it people get so much smarter about all the wrong things in rehab?

Why is it people get so much smarter about all the wrong things in rehab?

there was this guy there, he called it school. He told me every time he was in rehab he ended up learning something new and better to do to get high.

I was going to ask him why he kept coming back to rehab if it never worked, but I was on my second trip through, so I figured he probably had the same reasons I did (i.e. scary court order)

i forgot about the intently staring thing


stare at a bathroom or kitchen floor (or any floor that is tiled *fake or otherwise*) for a minute and some of the lines will dissapear and tiles will merge into larger tiles. I've had many people try this and see the same thing.

how do you make sure you don't fall asleep and drown? and what's suposed to happen?

Ok, if you are worried about that, you can, like Smunkee suggests, tell someone in your house your plans. After that, just let your mind and body feel the water around you; don't actively think or even force yourself not to think. Just ignore your mind and you'll find out something about yourself you never have before.

I've done this many times, both intoxicated and sobre. When I did it while trippin' on an E, I had such a wicked vision, same with Meth. I like doing it when I'm baked on Weed. I wouldn't recommend drugs unless you're accustomed to the feeling of complete and full sensory deprivation. It's a very strong experience even when sobre. It can be very scary if you're not use to this kind of thing.

If you feel uncomfortable, don't continue. The key when doing something like this is comfort. Work in your comfort range.

If you feel uncomfortable, don't continue. The key when doing something like this is comfort. Work in your comfort range.

and is it the same using a shower? most of the time i prefer to shower instead of taking a bath. it also looks safer because you don't have to do lay down in the dark and because my shower is a lot closer to the light switch than my bathtub.

Sleep deprivation. You don't even have to try for it, sooner or later you'll be in one of those memorable situations where you don't have time to sleep for a couple of days. Other than knocking shit over & walking into things (watch out for doorhandles, they're never where they seem) though, it's not much fun.

There's plenty of free drugs in nature, but I strongly advice you to team up with someone knowledgable before you try. Being unable to come down for a week is overrated, and vomiting yourself to death is hardly any better. Don't try to reach some magical hippy fantasy land on shrooms. You'd have to eat so many to do it, you'd never come down again.

The most massive hallucination I ever had was an out of body type thing, but it was brought about by my braincase cracking, and though it was certainly different, it wasn't especially interesting. Given the potential finality the method & how boring the experience is, I wouldn't advice trying. If you do though, make sure you notify Darwin Awards first.

Fall asleep?

:confused:

You win the thread.

Eating mushrooms that our ancestors have been eating for thousands upon thousands of years seems to be a much safer way to hallucinate than sleep deprivation or Listerine.

And you can go and pick ‘em yourself!

Eating mushrooms that our ancestors have been eating for thousands upon thousands of years seems to be a much safer way to hallucinate than sleep deprivation or Listerine.

And you can go and pick ‘em yourself!

Just make sure not to eat the poisonous ones.

and is it the same using a shower? most of the time i prefer to shower instead of taking a bath. it also looks safer because you don't have to do lay down in the dark and because my shower is a lot closer to the light switch than my bathtub.

It's pretty close. I've become lost in my mind while standing up in the shower. The mind's willingness to hallucinate is very strong.

Just make sure not to eat the poisonous ones.
As long as you know hot to harvest mushrooms, and the know-how of what’s good, what’s bad. Then you’re perfectly safe.

Even the Fly Agaric is fairly simple to harvest safely.

Remember kids: know you’re mushrooms! Trip safe!

I tried to post this yesterday, but it appears not to have made it through. Trying again...

It's not exactly what you're looking for, but you may be interested in the McCollough Effect (http://research.lumeta.com/ches/me/). It seems like an optical illusion, but it's not - there appear to be neurotransmitters involved, as the effects can last 24 hours or longer! Unfortunately, it only appears to work for extroverts. Introverts will either not see the effect at all, or only see it for a couple seconds.

The longer you train on the conditioning images, the stronger and longer-lasting the effect is. I spend about 15 seconds on each gazing, not staring, before doing the same on the other image, then repeat for at least 5 minutes. When you go back to the reference image, the lines should have a glow around them. I trained for 20 minutes once, and I could see the effect around the office - glowy buttons on my phone, between printed lines of text, on grid paper, through cooling vents. It was a really great experience. That intense part lasted about an hour, hour and a half, before going back to the point where I could only see the glow on the reference image. The ref image glow lasted about 3 days after that time.

Experimenting on myself in an unscientific sample of one, it appears that repeated exposure shortens the amount of time you need to train before seeing the effect again, but every source I've found for this well-studied effect says that it's definitely not permanent.

Try a bit of fly agaric (red mushrooms with little white spots) or try some ergot. They're not drugs.

Fly agaric can make you sick. It's a member of the Amanita genus, and mistaking it with other species of Amanita can make you dead. Ergot constricts blood vessels and can make you lose fingers and toes due to lack of circulation. Bad advice.

Fly agaric can make you sick. It's a member of the Amanita genus, and mistaking it with other species of Amanita can make you dead. Ergot constricts blood vessels and can make you lose fingers and toes due to lack of circulation. Bad advice.

Then pop a few aspirin at the same time as the ergot. Problem solved.

isn't that because its denatured with methanol (and coloring) to make it undrinkable? and wouldn't pure alcohol mean that it's pure, like in 100% ethanol? and the source isn't important. it's important that the alcohol you drink isn't made into formaldehyde (wich makes you blind) and formic acid (wich kills you). this happens when you digest methanol.

Yay! Someone on this thread knows what he's talking about.

Then pop a few aspirin at the same time as the ergot. Problem solved.
In some folks the constriction of the blood vessels can cause serious heart problems. Will the aspirin help? Maybe, but I wouldn't risk it. Also ergot alkaloids have other toxic effects including convulsions.
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1526-4610.1991.hed3107446.x http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotism

Then pop a few aspirin at the same time as the ergot. Problem solved.

This is a seriously dangerous suggestion and should be ignored

If you want to trip that badly go out and get some LSD or psilocybe mushrooms. It's easier and safer than screwing around with legal highs. Some of the stuff recommended in this thread can fuck you up pretty badly. While A. Muscaria, the fly agaric mushroom some have recommended, is fairly safe, deaths have resulted from mistaking it for mottled deathcap, a relative. Also it causes unpleasant illness in some folks.

I read once upon a time that nutmeg, ingested in large quantities, produced hallucinations. And I do mean large quantities, several ounces, at least. You'll probably never be able to drink eggnog again, too.

Yay! Someone on this thread knows what he's talking about.

At lest the mean IQ here is higher than youtube. This poor fellow would have been dead several times over following the advice of those nutters.

Buy some "salvia extract" online or locally at a head shop.

That will, by all accounts, cause excessive, dissociative hallucinations for a little while.

I read once upon a time that nutmeg, ingested in large quantities, produced hallucinations. And I do mean large quantities, several ounces, at least. You'll probably never be able to drink eggnog again, too.

Yes, it's disgusting, it makes you feel ill, but you do feel like your tripping. It's generally unpleasant though.

Buy some "salvia extract" online or locally at a head shop.

That will, by all accounts, cause excessive, dissociative hallucinations for a little while.

That stuff was unpleasant for me.

Trying to hallucinate deliberately is a bad thing, not healthy. But if you want to have some really wierd dreams, take benedryl before going to bed.

Trying to hallucinate deliberately is a bad thing, not healthy. But if you want to have some really wierd dreams, take benedryl before going to bed.

I don't think that works. I used to work graveyard and had horrible insomnia. I'd take 10 pills to sleep and I never dreamed at all.

Another question, why would you want to fuck up your brain?

I don't want to fuck up my brain (not permanently at least) I would just like to experience an unfamiliar state of mind.

I don't want to fuck up my brain (not permanently at least) I would just like to experience an unfamiliar state of mind.
Most ways of hallucinating are not fun and are quite scary. If you are under 16 wait. Your brain is still growing. If you are older, try some pot. It's the easiest and safest way to alter your state of consiousness.

stare at a bathroom or kitchen floor (or any floor that is tiled *fake or otherwise*) for a minute and some of the lines will dissapear and tiles will merge into larger tiles. I've had many people try this and see the same thing.
I've had that before... since I was little. I used to stare at the blinds in my room for like half an hour before I'd do anything in the morning and there would be all these spots that would drift by, or the shapes on the popcorn ceiling would almost seem to move...

Most ways of hallucinating are not fun and are quite scary. If you are under 16 wait. Your brain is still growing. If you are older, try some pot. It's the easiest and safest way to alter your state of consiousness.
I'm 23 and not necessarily looking for something that's fun. I'm looking for something that's new and different. I've smoked pot before, I quite like being stoned, but it's a perspective I've explored a couple of times. In general, I'm not necessarily looking for something that's quick and easy and if it's scary I don't think I'll mind. I mostly want to do something that's relatively safe and not particularly addictive.

I'm 23 and not necessarily looking for something that's fun. I'm looking for something that's new and different. I've smoked pot before, I quite like being stoned, but it's a perspective I've explored a couple of times. In general, I'm not necessarily looking for something that's quick and easy and if it's scary I don't think I'll mind. I mostly want to do something that's relatively safe and not particularly addictive.

There are companies on the internet that claim to sell legal hallucinogens. Mainly tryptamines and phenethylamines that slipped through the cracks in US drug law and are currently unscheduled. I'm not very confident that they'll send you the product they advertise though. They might send you something worthless, or they may send you something possibly toxic. They may even send you the right stuff but accidentally mess up the dosage.

I'm 23 and not necessarily looking for something that's fun. I'm looking for something that's new and different. I've smoked pot before, I quite like being stoned, but it's a perspective I've explored a couple of times. In general, I'm not necessarily looking for something that's quick and easy and if it's scary I don't think I'll mind. I mostly want to do something that's relatively safe and not particularly addictive.

Once again, in that case, I would recommend going to your local headsop and buying some Salvia extract. It is by all accounts extremely powerful if you manage to "break through" and it has a relatively short duration. Many people, however, report unpleasant experiences with it, and it is assuredly not a "fun" substance. If you decide to use Salvia, I advise you to learn as much about the drug as possible [Hint: http://www.erowid.org is an incredibly useful resource for any drug you care to experiment with, excepting those about which little is known (such as the various research chemicals)]. This applies to any other substance, particularly psychedelics, that you care to use.

WARNING: Use psychedelic substances with caution, and remember that set & setting are all-important.

And in regards to psychedelic mushrooms, equipped with a good field guide to mushrooms, or an experienced mushroom hunter, you can probably find and pick some psilocybe mushrooms. Remeber to learn how to correctly harvest them.


Furthermore: I would reccomend against ingesting ergot, fly agaric mushrooms (though these are relativley safe), and methanol. And Datura.

There are companies on the internet that claim to sell legal hallucinogens. Mainly tryptamines and phenethylamines that slipped through the cracks in US drug law and are currently unscheduled. I'm not very confident that they'll send you the product they advertise though. They might send you something worthless, or they may send you something possibly toxic. They may even send you the right stuff but accidentally mess up the dosage.

Yeah, as a general rule of thumb, never trust an online pharmacy.

Oh, and an addition: all (or at least most) of the ingredients needed to make an ayahuasca brew are legally available in the USA.

Yeah, as a general rule of thumb, never trust an online pharmacy.

Oh, and an addition: all (or at least most) of the ingredients needed to make an ayahuasca brew are legally available in the USA.

Most aren't pharmacies. Selling the stuff for consumption is illegal. They're sold as "research chemicals".

Don't get me started on online pharmacies. One of them ripped me off when trying to buy some klonopin. Damn shame too. Back then I liked cocaine and that stuff would have really taken the edge off at the end of the night.

Ok this totally works and its totally leagal.

Drink 4 cans of redbull, then fill a plastic bag with varnish. Wrap the bag around your head and take deep breaths. Then turn the lights off and listen to Dark side of the moon at full volume. When the great gig in the sky starts, take off your pants and masturbate. You should hallucinate pretty good. Works for me and my friends all the time.

Most aren't pharmacies. Selling the stuff for consumption is illegal. They're sold as "research chemicals".

Don't get me started on online pharmacies. One of them ripped me off when trying to buy some klonopin. Damn shame too. Back then I liked cocaine and that stuff would have really taken the edge off at the end of the night.

Yeah, of course. Research chemicals are also difficult to deal with (2c-i, 2c-e, and so forth), because they are justy that. These are chemicals about which little is known, and there have been few if any studies done about their effects on health and so on, so they are not to be fucked around with.

That is a terrible shame, get just ripped off like that, I know some people who've had similar experiences.