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Loose change

October3
18-02-2007, 23:15
Just watched a documentary on the above film and I have to say I am increasingly convinced that the whole 11/9 events (date format altered to the more logical English method of putting the day before the month) were a conspiracy orchestrated by the American government. There is just too much evidence to support the theory. Plus who proffited from the whole thing. I know Haliburton did (ripping off the American taxpayer over military expences). I knew the American elite were screwing the world but it staggers me to think of just how much.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-02-2007, 23:17
Seriously? Seriously?

Oh boy.
Kyronea
18-02-2007, 23:18
...and here I was thinking we'd finally seen the last of Loose Change...

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/911truth.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
Kyronea
18-02-2007, 23:20
*A record scratches as I spit out soda*

I want a little machine that I can use to play that sound anytime I want just because it's so fantastic for those "what the FUCK?!" moments.
Minaris
18-02-2007, 23:20
Just watched a documentary on the above film and I have to say I am increasingly convinced that the whole 11/9 events (date format altered to the more logical English method of putting the day before the month) were a conspiracy orchestrated by the American government. There is just too much evidence to support the theory. Plus who proffited from the whole thing. I know Haliburton did (ripping off the American taxpayer over military expences). I knew the American elite were screwing the world but it staggers me to think of just how much.

*A record scratches as I spit out soda*

EDIT: While not the worst theory out there, there are some significant flaws.

Maybe a fusion of the theories, but not one is pure in description and science
October3
18-02-2007, 23:20
Seriously? Seriously?

Oh boy.

Come on. Everyone knows the FDA allows hypnotic drugs to be put is U.S food to allow sublininal messages by Fox news to be more acceptable to the public. Bush fixed the election and he kept in the whitehouse by doping the country.
Infinite Revolution
18-02-2007, 23:21
this has been done to death. seriously, move on.
Desperate Measures
18-02-2007, 23:21
To be 12 again and in love...

Baseball games down at the sandlot...

Knock-off BMX bikes from K-Mart...

School's out for summer...
I V Stalin
18-02-2007, 23:22
Just watched a documentary on the above film and I have to say I am increasingly convinced that the whole 11/9 events (date format altered to the more logical English method of putting the day before the month) were a conspiracy orchestrated by the American government. There is just too much evidence to support the theory. Plus who proffited from the whole thing. I know Haliburton did (ripping off the American taxpayer over military expences). I knew the American elite were screwing the world but it staggers me to think of just how much.
Was that the documentary on BBC 2? Because if it was, I really have no idea how you came to that conclusion. It did a pretty damned good job of taking apart most, if not all, of the conspiracy theories that surround 9/11.

The only evidence of any sort of conspiracy was that supporting the idea that the CIA and FBI tried to cover up any evidence of their incompetence in stopping the terrorists before the attacks took place.
The South Islands
18-02-2007, 23:22
Come on. Everyone knows the FDA allows hypnotic drugs to be put is U.S food to allow sublininal messages by Fox news to be more acceptable to the public. Bush fixed the election and he kept in the whitehouse by doping the country.

Well, thats a new one.
Minaris
18-02-2007, 23:22
I want a little machine that I can use to play that sound anytime I want just because it's so fantastic for those "what the FUCK?!" moments.

Me too. And congrats on the time warp.
The Macabees
18-02-2007, 23:23
I think Bush himself was piloting every single aircraft hijacked, and he survived every single crash, and that settles it ... Bush is God - or Satan. Or Max Berry.
Andaras Prime
18-02-2007, 23:23
Have any of you guys seen the Pentagon attack video in slow motion? I mean seriously, those terrorists would have had to been midgets to fit in a missile.
October3
18-02-2007, 23:23
this has been done to death. seriously, move on.


Only a person in the secret employ of the U.S government would say something like that.

"Go back to sleep America, your government is looking after you. Keep drinking beer and watching television. Got doubts about your leaders? Here's Jerry Springer".
Pyotr
18-02-2007, 23:24
All it takes to convince you that Bush and Halliburton committed the worst terrorist act in history is a few grainy photos and video clips with ambient rock music?
Laerod
18-02-2007, 23:25
Just watched a documentary on the above film and I have to say I am increasingly convinced that the whole 11/9 events (date format altered to the more logical English method of putting the day before the month) were a conspiracy orchestrated by the American government. There is just too much evidence to support the theory. Plus who proffited from the whole thing. I know Haliburton did (ripping off the American taxpayer over military expences). I knew the American elite were screwing the world but it staggers me to think of just how much.It's not English.
Snafturi
18-02-2007, 23:25
Not again.

::dusts off box of retorts::

Should I start with the plane hitting the pentagon?
I V Stalin
18-02-2007, 23:25
Only a person in the secret employ of the U.S government would say something like that.

"Go back to sleep America, your government is looking after you. Keep drinking beer and watching television. Got doubts about your leaders? Here's Jerry Springer".
Oh, yeah, IR is definitely in the employ of the US government.

Why, all the time he's feeding us propaganda about how great Bush is and what a wonderful thing his policy on Iraq is.
October3
18-02-2007, 23:25
I think Bush himself was piloting every single aircraft hijacked, and he survived every single crash, and that settles it ... Bush is God - or Satan. Or Max Berry.

Bush wouldn't even fly in Viet Nam. And he can't handle his pretzels or whiskey. No he is an illiterate easy to control puppet of the true rulers of the world. Manipulated from birth by his father to be malliable.
Pyotr
18-02-2007, 23:26
Only a person in the secret employ of the U.S government would say something like that.

Lol!

http://www.sexhamster.com/weblog/macropics/tinfoil-hat.jpg
Desperate Measures
18-02-2007, 23:27
Only a person in the secret employ of the U.S government would say something like that.

"Go back to sleep America, your government is looking after you. Keep drinking beer and watching television. Got doubts about your leaders? Here's Jerry Springer".

We're all in the secret employ of the US Gov't. You're the last one.



ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.
Gravlen
18-02-2007, 23:27
Oh Gods no. Again with this?

There might be some unanswered questions - there are - but for the sake of Peter "With great power comes great responsibility" Parker, DON'T BASE IT UPON LOOSE CHANGE without recognizing the countless of accusations and questions they get wrong.

Thank you, that is all.
The Macabees
18-02-2007, 23:28
Bush wouldn't even fly in Viet Nam. And he can't handle his pretzels or whiskey. No he is an illiterate easy to control puppet of the true rulers of the world. Manipulated from birth by his father to be malliable.

Obviously, you're a pinko commi.
October3
18-02-2007, 23:28
It's not English.

What isn't?
Andaras Prime
18-02-2007, 23:28
Seriously though people, who would have thought a right after the Reichstadt was burnt down that their beloved Nazi party could have done it, of course it was the fault of the evil communists and jews (Muslims).
Ashmoria
18-02-2007, 23:30
Only a person in the secret employ of the U.S government would say something like that.

"Go back to sleep America, your government is looking after you. Keep drinking beer and watching television. Got doubts about your leaders? Here's Jerry Springer".

ya know, haliburton is just a company. they might be war profiteers but they dont control the air traffic control stystem, the military or the executive branch of the US govt.

george bush had only been president a bit less than 9 months when 9/11 happened. you may have noticed that he's not the quickest guy. how would he have been able to put such a massive conspiracy into effect in such a short time? and what gain was there for him so soon after he took over the job?
Kyronea
18-02-2007, 23:30
Only a person in the secret employ of the U.S government would say something like that.

"Go back to sleep America, your government is looking after you. Keep drinking beer and watching television. Got doubts about your leaders? Here's Jerry Springer".

Okay, you are now, officially, a NationStates Troll™, and not a good one at that. I'd start talking about how we should go after the current administration for what they've actually done, that this "conspiracy" is impossible for so many different reasons, and lots of other logical goodness, but you won't listen because that's not your game. You're a troll trying to entertain us and/or annoy us. Sorry, but whoever you really are, you've failed. Have a nice day. :)
The Atlantic Territory
18-02-2007, 23:35
www.lolloosechange.co.nr

The video on that site will answer all your questions.

They take the Loose Change video and stop it whenever it says something stupid. Then it corrects Loose Change. Takes a long time to watch, for the reason that Loose Change is just so wrong.
Laerod
18-02-2007, 23:40
Only a person in the secret employ of the U.S government would say something like that.

"Go back to sleep America, your government is looking after you. Keep drinking beer and watching television. Got doubts about your leaders? Here's Jerry Springer".
Do you have any idea how hard it is to get decently drunk in the US?
The South Islands
18-02-2007, 23:42
Do you have any idea how hard it is to get decently drunk in the US?

You'd be surprised how good American beer is once you've had a few.
Desperate Measures
18-02-2007, 23:45
You'd be surprised how good American beer is once you've had a few.

Or 10.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-02-2007, 23:45
Come on. Everyone knows the FDA allows hypnotic drugs to be put is U.S food to allow sublininal messages by Fox news to be more acceptable to the public. Bush fixed the election and he kept in the whitehouse by doping the country.

Only a person in the secret employ of the U.S government would say something like that.

"Go back to sleep America, your government is looking after you. Keep drinking beer and watching television. Got doubts about your leaders? Here's Jerry Springer".
Okay, your first post sounded like you were being serious - but these two? There is no way you're not taking the piss. Right?

george bush had only been president a bit less than 9 months when 9/11 happened. you may have noticed that he's not the quickest guy. Best reasoning ever. QED indeed. :p
Laerod
18-02-2007, 23:46
What isn't?Writing the day before the month. There's nothing to indicate that it's in any way uniquely English, or that the English came up with it first, or that even if they had, the French or Germans would have done it any differently.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-02-2007, 23:50
Writing the day before the month. There's nothing to indicate that it's in any way uniquely English, or that the English came up with it first, or that even if they had, the French or Germans would have done it any differently.

Uh, not to disturb your righteous outrage but I think he was simply putting English as a means to differentiate from the US American way of writing the date. In that case I don't think it's mandatory to add all the countries that also write the date like that. *pats* :p

I can't believe I'm defending this guy...
Laerod
18-02-2007, 23:51
Seriously though people, who would have thought a right after the Reichstadt was burnt down that their beloved Nazi party could have done it, of course it was the fault of the evil communists and jews (Muslims).Zákupy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstadt) was burned? That's news to me...
Snafturi
19-02-2007, 00:02
October3- You fail at being a troll.

Most people here hate trolls so you fail at NSG.

Please to be trying again.
Laerod
19-02-2007, 00:04
Uh, not to disturb your righteous outrage but I think he was simply putting English as a means to differentiate from the US American way of writing the date. In that case I don't think it's mandatory to add all the countries that also write the date like that. *pats* :pOh, I'm not outraged, just a tad annoyed and bored :D
(And I listed those two because its more a linguistic issue than a logical issue ;))
Swilatia
19-02-2007, 00:11
How many discussions about that video have we had anyway?
Andaras Prime
19-02-2007, 00:20
You see this everyone, it's a commercial plane. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Trident_II_missile_image.jpg)
Kyronea
19-02-2007, 00:21
Uh, not to disturb your righteous outrage but I think he was simply putting English as a means to differentiate from the US American way of writing the date. In that case I don't think it's mandatory to add all the countries that also write the date like that. *pats* :p

I can't believe I'm defending this guy...

...he's your troll, isn't he? Shame shame, Whereyouthinkyougoing.
Utaho
19-02-2007, 00:24
Just watched a documentary on the above film and I have to say I am increasingly convinced that the whole 11/9 events (date format altered to the more logical English method of putting the day before the month) were a conspiracy orchestrated by the American government. There is just too much evidence to support the theory. Plus who proffited from the whole thing. I know Haliburton did (ripping off the American taxpayer over military expences). I knew the American elite were screwing the world but it staggers me to think of just how much.


Here,do you want proof that Loose Change is bullshit?
I've seen the video too,the idea that missiles hit the Pentagon is so retarded,
the video doesnt even begin to explain how it is that an airplane was hijacked(a fact)that it no longer exists(a fact)and that hundreds of people can verify that a specific plane took off from a specific airport,that it was hijacked,that people saw it fly,that some people did hijack it and were trained to fly and died when they flew it into the Pentagon,and that a plane did fly into the Pentagon.Looking at the damaged building,you can see the shape of the damage,it came from one side,about the same size and shape as a jet airline.
There was no explosive damage,the damage was consistent with what you get when you run an plane into a building.Also,the fact that it happened on the same day,withim the same few hours,as the hijacking and flying of two planes into the World Trade Center,(something that a bunch of people filmed)by the same set of people,makes it pretty clear that if a plane hit another major U.S target,it was a hijacked plane.
Loose Change doesnt discuss how said conspiracy got a missile,or where it took off from,or why not a single person noticed.
Or why after killing more than three thousand innocent people,said conspiracy cannot find some way to prevent Loose Change from being created and disseminated across the Internet.
For a humorous take on all this:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

For a point by point debunking:

http://http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html
CthulhuFhtagn
19-02-2007, 00:25
You honestly think the Bush administration is competent enough to carry out a terrorist attack on itself?
Pyotr
19-02-2007, 00:27
You see this everyone, it's a commercial plane. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Trident_II_missile_image.jpg)

Are you going to back any or this shit up? Or are you just going to keep throwing wild accusations?
JuNii
19-02-2007, 00:29
because like a bad penny, it keeps coming back. :headbang:
Whereyouthinkyougoing
19-02-2007, 00:29
...he's your troll, isn't he? Shame shame, Whereyouthinkyougoing.Still not a troll owner here. I keep being tempted but I honestly just can't come up with the plot points.

Love your new sig, though. :p
CthulhuFhtagn
19-02-2007, 00:35
Are you going to back any or this shit up? Or are you just going to keep throwing wild accusations?

Dude, he's making fun of the OP.
Snafturi
19-02-2007, 00:38
Here's the thing.

The plane that allegedly hit the pentagon definately took off. So, what happened to all the passengers and the plane?

Also, the lightpoles were sheered off over the freeway. You can do a google image search and find proof. You can also find the dimensions of the plane and the hole. All be damned if they don't match. You can also find images of wreckage on the pentagon grounds.

Google it. You'll find it.

Why do I bother?
Andaluciae
19-02-2007, 01:39
Will someone please just get that stupid internet meme known as the 9/11 conspiracy stuff out of here?
Gun Manufacturers
19-02-2007, 07:56
Just watched a documentary on the above film and I have to say I am increasingly convinced that the whole 11/9 events (date format altered to the more logical English method of putting the day before the month) were a conspiracy orchestrated by the American government. There is just too much evidence to support the theory. Plus who proffited from the whole thing. I know Haliburton did (ripping off the American taxpayer over military expences). I knew the American elite were screwing the world but it staggers me to think of just how much.


http://www.wickedsunshine.com/WagePeace/Election2004/Images/AwJeez,NotThisShitAgain!.jpg


This is what I think of Loose Change: http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3821/owlpoop7wh.jpg