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If the Democratic primary were held today, which of the candidates would you vote for. I'll do one for Republicans as well, then in a week or so we will have the Presidental election.

Obama, and this should really be a poll.

Those three are the frontrunners, true, but there are a lot more people running, and the primary is where you vote your heart, not your head.

Obama. Hillary Clinton hates video games, and therefore hates children. :p

it would be usefull for us non-american lazy people to give a brief summary why i should(n't) vote for them. the things they promise to put the most emphasis on.
all i heard till now were bigoted comments (like osama or commie :rolleyes: ) or stuff like: he's really honest.

Obama for sure. Still we should try to remember that it is still February. 2007. Can't people realize that the election is still FAR in the future? Still, the news can't shut up about the possibilities as if it was already election time. I suppose they can't wait to get Bush the hell out of the Oval Office. The press is desperate for change.

it would be usefull for us non-american lazy people to give a brief summary why i should(n't) vote for them. the things they promise to put the most emphasis on.
all i heard till now were bigoted comments (like osama or commie :rolleyes: ) or stuff like: he's really honest.

Please feel free to use the internet to answer your questions, Each of the candidates has a web site.

Obama for sure. Still we should try to remember that it is still February. 2007. Can't people realize that the election is still FAR in the future? Still, the news can't shut up about the possibilities as if it was already election time. I suppose they can't wait to get Bush the hell out of the Oval Office. The press is desperate.

Who can blame them?

bill richardson

one of the biggest jobs the next president will have is to repair our relationships with other countries. bill can do that.

bill richardson

one of the biggest jobs the next president will have is to repair our relationships with other countries. bill can do that.

So far he hasn't announced he is running and that's why I didn't include him.

So far he hasn't announced he is running and that's why I didn't include him.

He announced a couple of months ago, as did Chris Dodd, Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, Tom Vilsack and I believe Wesley Clark.

Obama. Hillary Clinton hates video games, and therefore hates children. :p

obviously she has never played halo, or she would feel differently..... SOOOOOO addictive..

bill richardson

one of the biggest jobs the next president will have is to repair our relationships with other countries. bill can do that.

Looking through his site, I have to say that if accurate he is certainly someone to look into more thoroughly. Obama is someone who I do like but his inexperience is something that will cost him in the end. In 2012 things will be different but for now he really doesn't have a realistic chance. Richardson might actually be someone who could fight against Hillary who never seems to talk straight. If he could get some name recognition that is.

Looking through his site, I have to say that if accurate he is certainly someone to look into more thoroughly. Obama is someone who I do like but his inexperience is something that will cost him in the end. In 2012 things will be different but for now he really doesn't have a realistic chance. Richardson might actually be someone who could fight against Hillary who never seems to talk straight. If he could get some name recognition that is.

keep an eye on him. we need him so badly that if he doesnt get the nomination (its quite the long shot) he should be picked as either vice president or secretary of state. (he's already been ambassador to the UN and sec of energy)

obviously she has never played halo, or she would feel differently..... SOOOOOO addictive..

I bet she did, and got completly owned.

He announced a couple of months ago, as did Chris Dodd, Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, Tom Vilsack and I believe Wesley Clark.

Humm, I missed that and none of them were in the poll I looked at the other day. I could consider voting for Richardson. I'll have to do some research on him if he wins the Democratic nomination.

Fuck it - Dennis Kucinich.

He announced a couple of months ago, as did Chris Dodd, Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, Tom Vilsack and I believe Wesley Clark.

Clark hasn't announced either way yet, despite the enthusiastic chorus for him in the liberal Internet havens.

Looking through his site, I have to say that if accurate he is certainly someone to look into more thoroughly. Obama is someone who I do like but his inexperience is something that will cost him in the end. In 2012 things will be different but for now he really doesn't have a realistic chance. Richardson might actually be someone who could fight against Hillary who never seems to talk straight. If he could get some name recognition that is.

Yeah, in 2012 things will be a LOT different. The world will cease to exist! :D

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Obama is someone who I do like but his inexperience is something that will cost him in the end. In 2012 things will be different but for now he really doesn't have a realistic chance.

obama has to run now. candidates have a limited shelf life. it doesnt extend beyond 12 years at the extreme.

a democrat is going to win in '08. that democrat will then be the nominee again in '12. in '16 the nominee will be the democratic vp from '08. if the president in '08 wins again in '12, the vp in '16 is unlikely to win because of party fatigue.

if obama doesnt run this time, his only chance is to have the democratic nominee lose in '08. otherwise he is destined to be an elder stateman of the senate until he dies.

keep an eye on him. we need him so badly that if he doesnt get the nomination (its quite the long shot) he should be picked as either vice president or secretary of state. (he's already been ambassador to the UN and sec of energy)

I agree, it would be a shame to not use his talents on a national and international level. Fixing our reputation with the world is something we need to do quickly and the man will certainly be an asset in that regard. I really don't want to guess on his chances as it is really early yet and as they say "anything could happen".

I didn't see Biden up there, and truthfully he's my favorite one. I thought he announced that he'd be running...?

obama has to run now. candidates have a limited shelf life. it doesnt extend beyond 12 years at the extreme.

a democrat is going to win in '08. that democrat will then be the nominee again in '12. in '16 the nominee will be the democratic vp from '08. if the president in '08 wins again in '12, the vp in '16 is unlikely to win because of party fatigue.

if obama doesnt run this time, his only chance is to have the democratic nominee lose in '08. otherwise he is destined to be an elder stateman of the senate until he dies.

This is true. But this "rock star" persona he has isn't going to last through to the election so he is going to have to really address his inexperience. This more then anything else will cost him and if it does come down between him and Hillary people will probably make the wrong choice. Actually choosing Hillary Clinton to run in '08 will be giving the Republicans a chance to actually win.

I didn't see Biden up there, and truthfully he's my favorite one. I thought he announced that he'd be running...?

He did, and then he made the Obama comment on the same day, which pretty much wiped out his candidacy at the same time.

This is true. But this "rock star" persona he has isn't going to last through to the election so he is going to have to really address his inexperience. This more then anything else will cost him and if it does come down between him and Hillary people will probably make the wrong choice. Actually choosing Hillary Clinton to run in '08 will be giving the Republicans a chance to actually win.

i feel the same way. but the polls arent indicating that hillary would be as big a disaster as it feels like she would be.

i wont vote for her in the primaries but if she is the nominee, then she is my girl and im supporting her all the way. *shudder*

This is truly amazing.....Obama is running away with this thing.... I think it is important that everyone that votes in the Republican and Democratic primaries at least put in one comment to keep bumping these 2 threads..

The one who has conviction, the one who is exciting, the one who is positive:

Barack Obama.

i wont vote for her in the primaries but if she is the nominee, then she is my girl and im supporting her all the way. *shudder*

The idea of voting for her in '08 makes me want to grind my teeth but if she is the Dems choice... well the other options are going to be even worse.

*sighs*

This is truly amazing.....Obama is running away with this thing.... I think it is important that everyone that votes in the Republican and Democratic primaries at least put in one comment to keep bumping these 2 threads..

You know that someone is going to want to start another Obama thread at least a couple times a week. There is no escaping this, it will get quite irritating very soon believe me.

I'd vote Obama, easily. What's amazing is the blitz the wingnuts are putting down on him. They must be scared to death of him. Let them quiver in fear I say. Serves 'em right for inflicting the current craptacular mess we're in on us.

let's take a look here

Hillary- Populist censoring troll who hates video games based on the same logic as "Guns kill people". NO

Edwards- a solid choice, though may still have the '04 Kerry stench on him. OK

Obama- Inexperienced, but is new and brings fresh ideas to the table. YES

Possible tickets:

Edwards/Obama- Probably the strongest one that is good for America. YES

Obama/Edwards- a lack of experience on Obama's part may cause it to lose votes, but still a good ticket

Anything with Hillary- *barfs out own digestive system*


So I vote Edwards for Prez and Obama for VP

I voted Edwards in the poll firstly because the other potential nominees I prefer weren't listed and secondly because I Hillary insincere and slightly reeking of nepotism (as does GW Bush), and that Obama just hasn't struck me as that charismatic or special. Edwards isn't that great either but I think he still deserves more votes in this poll if his only competition isn't Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama.

Out of the wider field of nominees I'd also like to write in a vote for Bill Richardson. He's experienced in both domestic and international issues, even more importantly and specifically he's got experience with energy issues and middle eastern affairs. He's moderate on economic issues which will also big hugely important for the next President to tackle, especially the huge national debt. Also he doesn't strike me as being as slick and manufactured as many other candidates.

I also like Wesley Clarke, but its most just that he seems a nice guy sort of thing. I think he's too far left economically from what I remember, at least for the current climate. If debt levels were lower and it was a time to build domestic infrastructure and maybe even spread government welfare (universal health care would be nice, but not feasible for the USA right now) I might be more keen on him.

Out of this abysmally small choice of candidates, I choose Obama, no question. Hillary is a pro-censorship, constantly shifting candidate whom I will never support. Edwards is just your standard grinning Washington white guy. Obama is the only one who's even vaguely decent out of this group of people.

Obama.

Vote Obama - vote Osama...
Yes. That's the choice. Let Osama scrub his arse in Afghan, and let the government put local matters first.

From the poll results so far and the number of views it appears we have more Democrats on NS than Republicans. That could skew the Presidental Vote next week.

I would say Obama.

I would say Obama.

Obama, certainly. If I didn't already like the man because of his policies and campaign strategies, I'd like him just to spite the ignorant, racist, shmucks who are equating him with Osama.

Luckily enough, I don't have to feel vain, because I liked him before the morons started going after him.

Obama is way ahead here, guess I'll take a look and see where he is in the national polls.

Obama is way ahead here, guess I'll take a look and see where he is in the national polls.

It'll be closer in the national polls. We're more progressive here than in the general population, so we're going to skew toward Obama, especially if the only other choices are Edwards and Clinton.

It'll be closer in the national polls. We're more progressive here than in the general population, so we're going to skew toward Obama, especially if the only other choices are Edwards and Clinton.

CNN Poll - Clinton 28%, Obama 17%

It'll be closer in the national polls. We're more progressive here than in the general population, so we're going to skew toward Obama, especially if the only other choices are Edwards and Clinton.

But then, the level of intelligence and knowledge/lack of ignorance here on NationStates is higher on average than in the general population as well, so take that as you will.

Personally, I am stuck in between the two candidates Barack Obama and John Edwards to win the Democratic Nomination. Personally, I want Edwards to win the nomination and then choose Obama to be his VP. This is the dream ticket to me because Sen. Clinton is too liberal to beat someone like Jiuliani, however, more moderate candidates might be able to put up a good fight. At this point, it's too early to say, but I will know my position after the Democratic debates in April.

I'll vote Satan.





That means each member of this triumvirate of evil gets a vote, of course.

CNN Poll - Clinton 28%, Obama 17%
Clinton is ahead? Oh boy...:rolleyes:

What the fuck is wrong with you? Tom Vilsack, former governer of Iowa, was the first person to announce running. Why the fuck isn't he in this poll?

What the fuck is wrong with you? Tom Vilsack, former governer of Iowa, was the first person to announce running. Why the fuck isn't he in this poll?

Because noone cares.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Tom Vilsack, former governer of Iowa, was the first person to announce running. Why the fuck isn't he in this poll?Damn. I totally forgot about him. I like him more than Obama.

Because noone cares.

Why does anyone care that some whore from NY and some dude from Indiana are running?

If the Democratic primary were held today, which of the candidates would you vote for.Al Gore.. of course.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Tom Vilsack, former governer of Iowa, was the first person to announce running. Why the fuck isn't he in this poll?Noob poll
He forgot to put the "other" option

Noob poll
He forgot to put the "other" option

Well if he is planning to to run a presidential election with the winners from the primaries, he can't exactly run an "Other" versus "Other" campaign...

Well if he is planning to to run a presidential election with the winners from the primaries, he can't exactly run an "Other" versus "Other" campaign...if "other" wins.. It means his candidates are UNpopular candidates. (not popular enough to win against "other")

he had 10 poll slots available.. I would use nine and still include "other"

It's too early for me to make a final decision, but so far Obama leads for me. Though I'd vote for either Gore or Dean if they were running.

Feingold...

...but since he probably won't run, Gore...

...but since he hasn't announced yet, Obama.

My '08 election vote is going to the Libertarians or the Greens anyways, so it doesn't really matter to me.

I'd go for Obama, mostly because Hillary supported with her vote some of the worst blunders of Bush (I'm calling them "blunders", but a lot of harder words come to my mind).
An Obama/Hillary tandem would be the best option for the Dems, I think.
Edwards... isn't he the same Edwards of the last presidential elections (Kerry/Edwards tandem)? I don't think he performed well.

Mind you, I'm an european leftist, so my political sensibility might be quite different from that of the average US democrat.

Noob poll
He forgot to put the "other" option

Other was not an option nor is it an option in many states to have write-in candidates. I took the leading candidates from both parties so we could have a primary and then next weekend vote for President.

Time to vote if you haven't.

Obama seems to be the least bad of the lot, so I'd go with him.

I wish this were real. :D Obama

I'd vote Wesley Clark. He's smart enough to know what's going on in the world and foolish enough to do the right thing regardless of popular opinion. At the same time he's not too stubborn to listen to his advisors (Think Dubya).

I'd vote Wesley Clark. He's smart enough to know what's going on in the world and foolish enough to do the right thing regardless of popular opinion. At the same time he's not too stubborn to listen to his advisors (Think Dubya).

But Clark hasn't announced has he? If he has he is not one of the top candidates. Which one here did you pick and why?