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Jesus Camp.

Ifreann
16-02-2007, 17:02
Yay for militant Jesus fanatics.

Im in ur thread, stealin ur OP.
Colerica
16-02-2007, 17:02
Who here has seen this and what do you make of it? I watched it last night and I found it to be creepier than any horror film I've ever watched in my entire life.

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, here's a summary:

The feverish spectacle of a summer camp for evangelical Christian kids is the focus of Jesus Camp, a fascinating if sometimes alarming documentary. (Shortly after its release, the movie gained a new notoriety when Ted Haggard, president of the National Association of Evangelicals, who appears near the end of the film, resigned his post amid a male prostitute's allegations of drug use and sexual misconduct.) For most of the film, we follow a charismatic teacher, Becky Fischer, as she trains young soldiers in "God's Army" at a camp in North Dakota. Some of the kids emerge as likable and bright, and eager to continue their work as pint-sized preachers; elsewhere, the visions of children speaking in tongues and falling to the floor in ecstasy are more troubling. Even more arresting is the vision of a generation of children home-schooled to believe that the Bible is science, or Fischer's certainty that America's flawed system of democracy will someday be replaced by a theocracy. (In one scene, a cardboard cut-out of George W. Bush is presented to the children, who react by laying their hands on the figure as though in a religious procession.) Filmmakers Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady maintain neutrality about all this, maybe too much so (they throw in some interviews with radio host Mike Papantonio to provide a liberal-Christian viewpoint) and one would like to know more about the grown-ups presented here. Power broker Haggard is the creepiest person in the film, an insincere smooth talker whose advice to one of the young would-be campgoers comes across as entirely cynical. Time will tell whether the film's Christian soldiers will be marching onward. --Robert Horton
No paradise
16-02-2007, 17:03
I saw some of it. Is the one your talking about the one with the cardboard cut out of G.W.Bush?

It was rather disturbing.
Slartiblartfast
16-02-2007, 17:06
I know a few people who would love to get their hands on the REAL George Bush!!
Colerica
16-02-2007, 17:07
I saw some of it. Is the one your talking about the one with the cardboard cut out of G.W.Bush?

It was rather disturbing.

Yeah, that's the one.

And to the OP thief--I'm running on no sleep, how the heck did you do that? :eek:
Ifreann
16-02-2007, 17:08
Yeah, that's the one.

And to the OP thief--I'm running on no sleep, how the heck did you do that? :eek:

I have magic mod-like powers.



Not really, jolt is crappy, and my post got time stamped as being earlier than yours
No paradise
16-02-2007, 17:08
Yeah, that's the one.

And to the OP thief--I'm running on no sleep, how the heck did you do that? :eek:

It was horrific. When they were all talking about soldiers/war I was thinking "These people are being litteral, arn't they."

Also the kids fall on the floor and talk about being touched by the holy spirit. I think that happened.
Zarakon
16-02-2007, 17:09
Yeah, that's the one.

And to the OP thief--I'm running on no sleep, how the heck did you do that? :eek:

Jolt's servers have been smashed with das boot.
Neo Undelia
16-02-2007, 17:09
Myself and a bunch of friends saw it at an independent theatre in San Antonio. ‘Twas good.

We saw it right after the whole Ted Haggard scandal broke, and at one point in the film they’re filming one of his sermons. Haggard turns to the camera at one point and mockingly says “You getting all this in there?”

A friend of mine yelled out, “That’s what he said.” The entire theatre cracked up.
Zarakon
16-02-2007, 17:10
A friend of mine yelled out, “That’s what he said.” The entire theatre cracked up.

That's awesome.
Colerica
16-02-2007, 17:11
I know a few people who would love to get their hands on the REAL George Bush!!

*Secret Service is at your door in five, four, three....*

:p
Colerica
16-02-2007, 17:13
It was horrific. When they were all talking about soldiers/war I was thinking "These people are being litteral, arn't they."

Also the kids fall on the floor and talk about being touched by the holy spirit. I think that happened.

Yeah, it happened and it's disturbing as hell. There's also the super anti-abortion guy that sounds like Hulk Hogan in there, playing with these little fetus dolls. And he keeps bobbing his head back and forth with his eyes closed and his mouth vaguely open whenever he's standing.. and the three of us watching concluded he's trying to suck the ethereal cock of Christ.

Altogether, it's a very disturbing insight at some very scary people.
The Jade Star
16-02-2007, 17:14
*Secret Service is at your door in five, four, three....*

:p

*knock knock*
Hey, NationStates General Party Van!
Zarakon
16-02-2007, 17:14
You do know that das Boot means the boat, right?

I don't really care, to be honest.


Eich bin ein berliner!


Translation: I am a pastry.


SPEED AT 88!!!
Ifreann
16-02-2007, 17:15
Jolt's servers have been smashed with das boot.

You do know that das Boot means the boat, right?
United Beleriand
16-02-2007, 17:18
You do know that das Boot means the boat, right?And?
Slartiblartfast
16-02-2007, 17:19
*knock knock*
Hey, NationStates General Party Van!

I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing:p
Ifreann
16-02-2007, 17:19
*knock knock*
Hey, NationStates General Party Van!
At least it's not 4chan
*Doesn't really get the refference*
I don't really care, to be honest.


Eich bin ein berliner!


Translation: I am a pastry.


SPEED AT 88!!!

Curse you Zarakon, curse youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
Zarakon
16-02-2007, 17:20
Curse you Zarakon, curse youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

That's what your mom said. Because she's Skeletor and I'm He-man. And I had foiled her evil scheme. What now?
The Jade Star
16-02-2007, 17:21
I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing:p

Just kidding, FBI, hands up!
Slartiblartfast
16-02-2007, 17:24
Just kidding, FBI, hands up!

*shits self and struggles into orange jumpsuit*
Zarakon
16-02-2007, 18:24
Just kidding, FBI, hands up!

Freeze! Presidential Signing Statement Nuclar Enforcement Squad!

Blam! Blam! Blam! Takatakatakatakataka! Foom! BOOOM!!! BOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM! VAPORIZE!!! BANGBANGBANG!

We don't ask questions.
The Black Forrest
16-02-2007, 19:38
Just kidding, FBI, hands up!


Can I get arrested by Agent Scully?
Khadgar
16-02-2007, 19:47
Can I get arrested by Agent Scully?

Yes but the real Agent Scully is about 45, overweight, male, with horrid BO.
The Black Forrest
16-02-2007, 19:51
Yes but the real Agent Scully is about 45, overweight, male, with horrid BO.

Well let's resend that request shall we?
Pirated Corsairs
16-02-2007, 20:13
Myself and a bunch of friends saw it at an independent theatre in San Antonio. ‘Twas good.

We saw it right after the whole Ted Haggard scandal broke, and at one point in the film they’re filming one of his sermons. Haggard turns to the camera at one point and mockingly says “You getting all this in there?”

A friend of mine yelled out, “That’s what he said.” The entire theatre cracked up.

I saw it in my university's student theater, and I tried to make some sort of witty remark at the part where he's preaching about homosexuality and how ebul teh gayz are, but I (and most of the theater) was laughing too hard to say anything. :D
United Beleriand
16-02-2007, 20:17
Oh, just nuke 'em. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Bolol
16-02-2007, 20:18
All while I was watching that movie I was thinking: "What if I were to break in there and in front of all of them yell 'Hi! I'm you're friendly communist neighbor!'
The Nazz
16-02-2007, 20:18
I didn't know it was out already. I'll need to head to Netflix and do some re-ordering.
Call to power
16-02-2007, 20:23
this one time at Jesus camp...


where is the holy spirit camp :confused:
The Pictish Revival
16-02-2007, 21:19
Scary, scary people. It's enough to make even the most liberal non-Christian want to barge in there and shout: "God is just a made-up person! Shut up!"
Snafturi
16-02-2007, 21:28
I felt so bad for that little blond boy. He's too young to be having such a crisis of faith.

I also felt bad for that boy with the long hair that wanted to be a preacher. He is so smart and his parents are home schooling him and teaching him lies. He could really be something in this life. It's just such a waste.

My favorite scene was in the deleted scenes when they were having a serious conversation about demon possesion. Give me a break.
Gauthier
16-02-2007, 21:36
It was horrific. When they were all talking about soldiers/war I was thinking "These people are being litteral, arn't they."

Also the kids fall on the floor and talk about being touched by the holy spirit. I think that happened.

If the kids were mostly Middle Eastern in ethnicity and said Allah instead of God, there would have been a nation-wide DHS sweep of these camps following the film's release.