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That's what I call a dubious honor.

Some 82 year old lady decided it would be a good idea to have sex with an 11 year old boy. What's more fucked up is that the 11 year old went along with it. She had to have blackmailed or otherwise coerced him into it. I can't imagine any boy looking at an 82 year old and thinking "I gotta get me some of that". Anyhoo, she's going to be Oregon's oldest registered sex offender.


http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1171605441246780.xml&coll=7&thispage=1

She must be really really hot. Nothing else even nearly makes sense.

I knew a guy who boned his mother when he got home from the pub. She was toasted on the sofa and he sat next to her, a bit toasted himself and they ended up bumping uglies. And to top it all off this didn't happen in America! (or Norwich).

I predict three posts before Infinite Revolution "throws up a little in his mouth"

EDIT: It turns out I mean Cluichstan

what's with the weird time paradox posting I keep seeing?

anyway, I think we can all agree that's the grossest story in the history of ever.

Why would you expect that to happen in America?

cos they is all hicks innit.

...
Zer goggles! Zey do nusskink fer zer peechurs in my heeed!

I knew a guy who boned his mother when he got home from the pub. She was toasted on the sofa and he sat next to her, a bit toasted himself and they ended up bumping uglies. And to top it all off this didn't happen in America! (or Norwich).

Why would you expect that to happen in America?

I predict three posts before Infinite Revolution "throws up a little in his mouth"

That's Cluichstan you're thinking of.

That's Cluichstan you're thinking of.

My bad.

Why would you expect that to happen in America?


Well it is the country that brought us The Blue People of Troublesome Creek.

Well it is the country that brought us The Blue People of Troublesome Creek.

Yeah, but that was cool.

Well it is the country that brought us The Blue People of Troublesome Creek.

Yeah and Europe gave us inbreeding to the point where hemophilia and the distinctive Hapsburg lip came into existence. I think Europe has us beat in the inbreeding department.

Must be a VERY lonely woman..

Goes to show you that even the kindest have a dark side.

Or perhaps that old=/=kind

Must be a VERY lonely woman..

Goes to show you that even the kindest have a dark side.

Yeah and Europe gave us inbreeding to the point where hemophilia and the distinctive Hapsburg lip came into existence. I think Europe has us beat in the inbreeding department.

Well that was during the long history of Europe. Apparently there were still blue people seen in kentucky in 1982. We must have just passed the torch on and the colonies kept it burning bright.

She must be really really hot. Nothing else even nearly makes sense.
Um, or she's just a rapist.

Seriously, if an 82 year old guy raped an 11 year old girl, would you be saying, "He must be really really hot"?

Seriously, if an 82 year old guy raped an 11 year old girl, would you be saying, "He must be really really hot"?

He probably would, actually. Ifreann doesn't know how to be serious, as far as I can tell.

Um, or she's just a rapist.

Seriously, if an 82 year old guy raped an 11 year old girl, would you be saying, "He must be really really hot"?

Yeah but the kid would have had to get at least some blood in it to get it in. A girl wouldn't have to do anything.

Yeah but the kid would have had to get at least some blood in it to get it in. A girl wouldn't have to do anything.
The ignorance about rape here really makes me sad. :(

The ignorance about rape here really makes me sad. :(


Explain

Explain

People that young can't really control it.

Explain
Well, for one thing, it is completely possible for a male to experience erection even when he does NOT consent to sex.

It is also completely possible for an adult to sexually abuse a child and induce physical arousal in that child, and this does not in any way change the fact that it is rape.

People that young can't really control it.

At 11 years old. Even at that age an 82 year old's parts would have softened me up faster than imagining Bruce Forcyth squating on top of a glass coffee table laying a cable with me underneath.

Um, or she's just a rapist.

While I do agree that what she did was wrong (and she did confess to spare the child (now teen) from testifying...)

It sounds like less of her being a predetor and more of like "Just something that happened."

of course this is only going by what was reported.

Why is it everyday DCD manages to make me spit my coffee out.

Honestly I keep telling myself there's no way it'll be as bad as yesterday, but everyday he still manages to do it. Bastard.

While I do agree that what she did was wrong (and she did confess to spare the child (now teen) from testifying...)

It sounds like less of her being a predetor and more of like "Just something that happened."

of course this is only going by what was reported.

You know, murder and date rape are sometimes "just something that happened". Doesn't mean you get away with it.

You know, murder and date rape are sometimes "just something that happened". Doesn't mean you get away with it.

Yeah, just look at O.J Simpson - oh wait...:eek:

It sounds like less of her being a predetor and more of like "Just something that happened."

of course this is only going by what was reported.
She raped a child. She is a rapist. Whether or not she is "a predator" doesn't make a damn bit of difference.

It's like how people try to pretend that "date rape" is somehow different from "real rape." As if rape is somehow less serious if it "just happens." I think that's bullshit. If you rape somebody, you're a rapist.

Yeah and Europe gave us inbreeding to the point where hemophilia and the distinctive Hapsburg lip came into existence. I think Europe has us beat in the inbreeding department.
I'm pretty sure that was more just the people who went over to the US, to be honest.

"Oh no, sis, they're coming again with their pitchforks and flaming torches!"
"Finish me off, and let's get on a boat to the land of the free and vast!"

Well, for one thing, it is completely possible for a male to experience erection even when he does NOT consent to sex.

It is also completely possible for an adult to sexually abuse a child and induce physical arousal in that child, and this does not in any way change the fact that it is rape.

now bottle, there is also this possiblitiy. The 11 year old could've instigated the whole thing too.
In the summer of 2004, she took in the 11-year-old boy for three months. She told detectives that she heard the boy had been abandoned as a baby. When she baked him a birthday cake, the boy said no one had ever made him a cake for his birthday. Buoy described the boy as very mature, saying he seemed more like 15 or 16.

so it's possible that the child could've "seduced" (for lack of a better word) Mrs Buoy.

After her husband turned in, she and the boy would stay up late watching TV in her sewing room.

Buoy said hugs led to kisses and eventually to sexual contact when he would crawl into her bed.

no notation as to who upped it from hugs to kisses, then kisses to contact. And note, when HE crawled into her bed, not when she took him to her bed.

She's been watching 30 + kids for about 20 years and only this ONE instance? I'm sure they would've investigated the other children she watched and I'm also sure that others would've stepped forward if they did have sexual contact with this woman.

She raped a child. She is a rapist. Whether or not she is "a predator" doesn't make a damn bit of difference.

It's like how people try to pretend that "date rape" is somehow different from "real rape." As if rape is somehow less serious if it "just happens." I think that's bullshit. If you rape somebody, you're a rapist.

Did the boy cry rape?

how do you know that the Boy didn't instigate this? oh wait, he's 11 years old! so there is NO WAY that he would have any sexual thoughts in his mind, even tho he did act older than his age suggested. that's right, the magic age when any thoughts of sex appears in a person's mind is 14! :rolleyes:

she confessed, to it. I'm not arguing that what she did wasn't wrong, but how it was presented in the article does leave room for doubt.

Yeah, well, thats Eastern Oregon. It's strange on that side of the state.

I think Bottle has some issues with this whole issue. Either as a repenting rapist or a victim. I don't think we should push them any further. It might ead to unpleasentness.

You're not familiar with NSG, are you? Saying it will lead to unpleasantness is the one way to be sure that the conversation will continue.

You're not familiar with NSG, are you? Saying it will lead to unpleasantness is the one way to be sure that the conversation will continue.

He ain't lying

You're not familiar with NSG, are you? Saying it will lead to unpleasantness is the one way to be sure that the conversation will continue.


Sorry. No I am not familiar. I apologise and retract my statement.

Yeah, just look at O.J Simpson - oh wait...:eek:

Sometimes you do get away with it. That's what keeps it interesting. Thats part of why we're so entertained by people like Richard Ramirez and Otis Toole. They keep getting away with murder for so long that they keep life interesting, exciting, and dangerous. Serial killers are among the best free entertainment around.

Seriously, if an 82 year old guy raped an 11 year old girl, would you be saying, "He must be really really hot"?

Nah, he'd be saying "He must be really, really rich".

Sorry. No I am not familiar. I apologise and retract my statement.

That's another thing we don't do on NSG.

Sorry. No I am not familiar. I apologise and retract my statement.

It's a moot point now, everyones seen it, and deleting it will do no good.

Ever.

What can we say, he's a newb

An 11 year old can't consent to sex. It's beyond his/her mental capacity and judgement. That's why it's illegal. That's why it's rape even if the kid instigates it. If you're hanging out with a little kid and the kid expresses an interest in you sexually and you go ahead and have sexual contact with him or her you're a child molester. There is no excuse. An adult should know better.

That's another thing we don't do on NSG.

Ever.

Ever.

What is it we never do? apologise or retract - I need to learn.

What is it we never do? apologise or retract - I need to learn.

Under most circumstance, we never admit we're wrong. Apologizing and retracting are interpreted as admitting you were wrong.

What is it we never do? apologise or retract - I need to learn.

Both.

Because noone pays attention to apologies, and retracting you're statement makes you look like a douchebag

Under most circumstance, we never admit we're wrong. Apologizing and retracting are interpreted as admitting you were wrong.

I've seen a fair few people admit they were wrong, so thats not quite true. But if you're going to admit you were wrong, don't take back what you said, just admit you were wrong.

I've seen a fair few people admit they were wrong, so thats not quite true. But if you're going to admit you were wrong, don't take back what you said, just admit you were wrong.

Right-o. Lesson learnt.
Thanks. :)

You know, murder and date rape are sometimes "just something that happened". Doesn't mean you get away with it.

and note, I didn't say that what she did was right and that she shouldn't have been punnished. I just said that she wasn't a predetor.

and Killings that is "just something that happened" tends to called Manslaughter, or wrongful death, not Murder.

I predict three posts before Infinite Revolution "throws up a little in his mouth"

EDIT: It turns out I mean Cluichstan

hello hellooo! sorry i'm late! i was otherwise engaged with ethical dilemas.


*throws-up a little in mouth*

*bows out of thread*

Did the boy cry rape?

how do you know that the Boy didn't instigate this? oh wait, he's 11 years old! so there is NO WAY that he would have any sexual thoughts in his mind, even tho he did act older than his age suggested.

What difference does this make? He's a minor, and she's even fostering him, one would think she's old enough (pun intended) to know she should not touch him.

You've got to love the way abuse of minors is less serious if the offender is female (e.g. when the word victim suddenly was written in double quotes when they talked about that teacher some months ago (I think the name was Rowe or similar).

Did the boy cry rape?

how do you know that the Boy didn't instigate this? oh wait, he's 11 years old! so there is NO WAY that he would have any sexual thoughts in his mind, even tho he did act older than his age suggested. that's right, the magic age when any thoughts of sex appears in a person's mind is 14! :rolleyes:

I'm not sure where the confusion is for you.

An adult engaged in sexual activity with a non-consenting party. This is rape. You may engage in whatever sort of victim-blaming attempts you like, but it will not change the fact that having sex with a non-consenting party is rape. There is nothing an 11-year-old child can do which would make it OK to rape them.


she confessed, to it. I'm not arguing that what she did wasn't wrong, but how it was presented in the article does leave room for doubt.
There is no doubt in the article that the woman in question is a rapist. She committed rape. She has confessed to committing rape. What is difficult to understand about this?

An 11 year old can't consent to sex. It's beyond his/her mental capacity and judgement. That's why it's illegal. That's why it's rape even if the kid instigates it. If you're hanging out with a little kid and the kid expresses an interest in you sexually and you go ahead and have sexual contact with him or her you're a child molester. There is no excuse. An adult should know better.

thank you.

You've got to love the way abuse of minors is less serious if the offender is female (e.g. when the word victim suddenly was written in double quotes when they talked about that teacher some months ago (I think the name was Rowe or similar).Say hello to my little strawman.

The two cases are nothing alike. The teacher-pupil thing involved a much older kid, where no one would've batted an eye if he'd screwed around with someone of his own age. The teacher was likewise quite a bit younger. Further, buth the kid's guardians & the school authority was fully aware of the relationship & had no objections to the kid dating his teacher.

Say hello to my little strawman.

The two cases are nothing alike. The teacher-pupil thing involved a much older kid, where no one would've batted an eye if he'd screwed around with someone of his own age. The teacher was likewise quite a bit younger. Further, buth the kid's guardians & the school authority was fully aware of the relationship & had no objections to the kid dating his teacher.

There are two responses to this post, let me just give both ;)

a)
See, that's exactly what I mean. You wouldn't get this kind of response if the teacher was male and the pupil female.

b)
Use of a strawman means first putting words into the mouth of a previous poster that are easy to refute, then doing so. You, though, actually ARE of the opinion that the teacher-pupil thing was no big deal, so my "strawman" is none.


where no one would've batted an eye if he'd screwed around with someone of his own age

Uhm, yes, because minors screwing around with minor is not seduction of minors*... Speaking of strawman, I don't care if the boy is 11 or 15. It would still be wrong for an adult teacher to have sex with him; and I still don't object if a 11-year-old has sex with another 11-year-old...

* In an astonishing amount of cases, minors aren't adults

You've got to love the way abuse of minors is less serious if the offender is female (e.g. when the word victim suddenly was written in double quotes when they talked about that teacher some months ago (I think the name was Rowe or similar).
I think it has more to do with the gender of the victim. You can see this on this thread; people genuinely don't seem to understand that a male might NOT consent to sex, since it is assumed that all men/boys will always want sex. If sexual intercourse occurs, it must be because a MALE wanted it. It cannot be that a woman wanted sex while a man did not. Sexual intercourse requires male desire, and without male desire there is no such thing as sexual intercourse. All of which is bunk, of course, but that doesn't stop a lot of people from believing it.

It is also assumed that the male body cannot become aroused unless the male in question is consenting, a particularly dangerous falsehood that is, sadly, also quite common.

It's really the same old "can't rape the willing" crap that has been around forever. And it's a lovely example of PHMT (Patriarchy Hurts Males, Too.)

An 11 year old can't consent to sex. It's beyond his/her mental capacity and judgement. That's why it's illegal. That's why it's rape even if the kid instigates it. If you're hanging out with a little kid and the kid expresses an interest in you sexually and you go ahead and have sexual contact with him or her you're a child molester. There is no excuse. An adult should know better.

What if instead of a 11 year old boy, it's a 17 year old cheerleader?

What if instead of a 11 year old boy, it's a 17 year old cheerleader?

Then it's not rape. It's just hot.


I think at 17 one can be assumed to have enough experience and brain development to make decisions about sex. It's like fucking a ditzy chick instead of a retarded chick. The ditzy chick, while not bright, is assumed to have enough intelligence to know what she's agreeing to.

Did the boy cry rape?

how do you know that the Boy didn't instigate this? oh wait, he's 11 years old! so there is NO WAY that he would have any sexual thoughts in his mind, even tho he did act older than his age suggested. that's right, the magic age when any thoughts of sex appears in a person's mind is 14! :rolleyes:
I take offense. I've been thinking sexual thought since i was FIVE.:mad:

I take offense. I've been thinking sexual thought since i was FIVE.:mad:
Whether or not minors have sexual thoughts is irrelevant to the topic of rape. The fact that you have sexual thoughts does not give anybody the right to rape you.

Whether or not minors have sexual thoughts is irrelevant to the topic of rape. The fact that you have sexual thoughts does not give anybody the right to rape you.

That seems like such a painfully self-evident statement that I wonder why you had to make it i the first place.

Some 82 year old lady decided it would be a good idea to have sex with an 11 year old boy. What's more fucked up is that the 11 year old went along with it.
You're wrong there. An eleven y-o cannot give consent, no matter what vague term you choose for it.
She had to have blackmailed or otherwise coerced him into it. I can't imagine any boy looking at an 82 year old and thinking "I gotta get me some of that".
Perhaps losing his virginity was more important to him than the prospective partner's pulchritude. Shit, here I am speculating about his motives, right after asserting that he can't give consent.

And here's me being utterly hypocritical (my bad taste and bad timing in humour being familiar to many): what's funny about this story other than "old people are ugly, nyer nyer" ?

Anyhoo, she's going to be Oregon's oldest registered sex offender.
Might have said so in the article, but look here. (http://sexoffenders.oregon.gov/SorPublic/Web.dll/main?S=1687604025&cmd=SHOW_BULLETIN&I=488)

Whether or not minors have sexual thoughts is irrelevant to the topic of rape. The fact that you have sexual thoughts does not give anybody the right to rape you.
Oh. ok.

Whether or not minors have sexual thoughts is irrelevant to the topic of rape. The fact that you have sexual thoughts does not give anybody the right to rape you.

:) you and DCD give me faith in humanity....

this isn't about whether or not he "thought about sex" or whether or not he might want to have sex, it's about consent.

11 year old boys in general cannot consent to sex, neither can 11 year old girls.

If this story was about an 80 year old man and an 11 year old girl, the whole tone of the thread would be different.

If this story was about an 80 year old man and an 11 year old girl, the whole tone of the thread would be different.
QFT

...

If this story was about an 80 year old man and an 11 year old girl, the whole tone of the thread would be different.

I'm getting the feeling anything I might have just said has been thoroughly flogged already. Threads move quick this time on a friday, huh.

If it's any consolation, I read the OP and loaded up. What's bad for the goose is bad for the gander, and this didn't look like a joking matter for even one second.

That seems like such a painfully self-evident statement that I wonder why you had to make it i the first place.
In this case, "painfully self-evident" is literally true. It hurts me, in a very deep way, that such statements ever need to be made. It hurts me that there are people who grow up without such basic principles in their lives.

It is entirely possible, even likely, that the boy in question had had sexual thoughts at one time or another. It is entirely possible that he had desired sex or sexual contact of some kind. It is even possible that he had been sexually attracted to the person who raped him (though I find it somewhat unlikely).

None of these would make it remotely acceptable for anybody to rape him.

It needs to be said over and over and over, a million times and more: NOTHING YOU DO, THINK, OR SAY MAKES IT OKAY FOR SOMEBODY TO RAPE YOU. It doesn't matter if you have sexual thoughts. It doesn't even matter if you've had sexual thoughts about the person who raped you. NOTHING gives anybody the right to rape you.

One thing I simply cannot understand is how the majority of people in this thread think minors don't have enough "brain development" to make such decisions. What makes a... say... 14-year-old have worse judgement and less brainpower than an 18-year-old?

Might have said so in the article, but look here. (http://sexoffenders.oregon.gov/SorPublic/Web.dll/main?S=1687604025&cmd=SHOW_BULLETIN&I=488)

The article says she's the oldest FEMALE sex offender in Oregon. The person you quoted left that little word out, yet that little word makes a big difference....

One thing I simply cannot understand is how the majority of people in this thread think minors don't have enough "brain development" to make such decisions. What makes a... say... 14-year-old have worse judgement and less brainpower than an 18-year-old?
As somebody who studies developmental neurobiology, can I just say...

OY.

That's a question that requires many post-graduate level courses to answer in full. There are so many differences between the brain of an 11 year old and the brain of an 18 year old that I don't even know where to start. Chemically? Structurally? OY!!! And that's just working with what little knowledge we have...it's likely that there are piles of developmental changes that we haven't even identified yet!

I'll bet it's alot like banging a prune.



no... that feels different

^
a line from Night Court. Bull had been struck by lightning and what's his name (?) said to him, "I bet it's like french kissing a light socket" and the above was Bulls response was.

Um, or she's just a rapist.

Seriously, if an 82 year old guy raped an 11 year old girl, would you be saying, "He must be really really hot"?
That she's a rapist is not even in debate. I say she must be hot(mostly jokingly) because the victim crawled into her bed when they were staying up watching television. I inferred from that that this was not a case of the victim being physically forced into sex, but was coerced some other way. Perhaps the woman abused her position of authority("naughty boys resist, good boys don't"), but I don't see an 82 year old woman being all that able to physically force even a child to do anything.
He probably would, actually. Ifreann doesn't know how to be serious, as far as I can tell.
Yay, I'm getting a reputation!

One thing I simply cannot understand is how the majority of people in this thread think minors don't have enough "brain development" to make such decisions. What makes a... say... 14-year-old have worse judgement and less brainpower than an 18-year-old?

not less brainpower, less experience. On the whole, in general, big freaking generalization, 11 year olds do not have enough experience to consent to sex.

On the whole, in general, big generalization, most 14 year olds do not have as much life experience and stuff as 18 year olds.

One thing I simply cannot understand is how the majority of people in this thread think minors don't have enough "brain development" to make such decisions. What makes a... say... 14-year-old have worse judgement and less brainpower than an 18-year-old?

I was gonna flame the fuck out of you, but I decided my couple days here should be spent avoiding such an occurance. I'll leave it up to the fact you only have two posts.

A 14 year old is probably the worst person in such a situation to make responsible decisions about sex. They are up to their ears in hormones, and being a giant hormone bomb is a horrible combination with making responsible decisions about sex.

One thing I simply cannot understand is how the majority of people in this thread think minors don't have enough "brain development" to make such decisions. What makes a... say... 14-year-old have worse judgement and less brainpower than an 18-year-old?

Jay Giedd, a researcher at the National Institute of Mental
Health, explains that during adolescence the “part of the brain
that is helping organization, planning and strategizing is not
done being built yet…. It’s sort of unfair to expect [adolescents]
to have adult levels of organizational skills or decision making
before their brain is finished being built.”6
Dr. Deborah Yurgelun-Todd of Harvard Medical School has
studied the relation between these new findings and teen behavior
and concluded that adolescents often rely on emotional parts
of the brain, rather than the frontal lobe. She explains, “one of
the things that teenagers seem to do is to respond more strongly
with gut response than they do with evaluating the consequences
of what they’re doing.”7
Also, appearances may be deceiving: “Just because they’re
physically mature, they may not appreciate the consequences or
weigh information the same way as adults do. So we may be mistaken
if we think that [although] somebody looks physically
mature, their brain may in fact not be mature.”8
This discovery gives us a new understanding into juvenile
delinquency. The frontal lobe is “involved in behavioral facets
germane to many aspects of criminal culpability,”9 explains Dr.
Ruben C. Gur, neuropsychologist and Director of the Brain
Behavior Laboratory at the University of Pennsylvania. “Perhaps
most relevant is the involvement of these brain regions in the
control of aggression and other impulses…. If the neural substrates
of these behaviors have not reached maturity before
adulthood, it is unreasonable to expect the behaviors themselves
to reflect mature thought processes.
“The evidence now is strong that the brain does not cease
to mature until the early 20s in those relevant parts that govern
impulsivity, judgment, planning for the future, foresight of consequences,
and other characteristics that make people morally
culpable…. Indeed, age 21 or 22 would be closer to the ‘biological’
age of maturity.”10http://www.abanet.org/crimjust/juvjus/Adolescence.pdf

That and the lack of life experience.

One thing I simply cannot understand is how the majority of people in this thread think minors don't have enough "brain development" to make such decisions. What makes a... say... 14-year-old have worse judgement and less brainpower than an 18-year-old?


This guys 15: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLUeSf86v1E

Would you trust him to make any decisions for you? :D :p

no... that feels different

^
a line from Night Court. Bull had been struck by lightning and what's his name (?) said to him, "I bet it's like french kissing a light socket" and the above was Bulls response was.

OK, then it's like banging a sloppy pastrami sandwich with the meat hanging out.

http://i18.tinypic.com/4htdwmt.jpg

OK, then it's like banging a sloppy pastrami sandwich with the meat hanging out.

http://i18.tinypic.com/4htdwmt.jpg

I hate you for that mental image.

One thing I simply cannot understand is how the majority of people in this thread think minors don't have enough "brain development" to make such decisions. What makes a... say... 14-year-old have worse judgement and less brainpower than an 18-year-old?

Another thing you might not know is that the majority of people in this thread are not eager to lose a week or so of their lives to something like this:
Paedophiles are people too. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11293966)
The thread history here is a deep well, don't think it's a particular obsession of NSG.

If you're genuinely curious, read some of the links from that thread, or even DCD's just above. If you're just trying to make trouble, please don't.

Another thing you might not know is that the majority of people in this thread are not eager to lose a week or so of their lives to something like this:
Paedophiles are people too. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11293966)
The thread history here is a deep well, don't think it's a particular obsession of NSG.

If you're genuinely curious, read some of the links from that thread, or even DCD's just above. If you're just trying to make trouble, please don't.

It is just another step from the pathetic excuse he tried to give to excusing pedophiles because their victim "asked for it" or "knew what they were doing". People who advance arguements even close to that deserve to be ripped apart on the forum. I really hope this thread doesn't go in this direction to make it neccessary. Doubt the mods would appreciate it either.

I hate you for that mental image.

And I hate you for quoting it with the image intact.

DCD, on the other hand has decided to try to rescue the moribund humour of his OP by hammering hard on the "old people are gross and beneath sexuality" theme.

Given the sound tonking he just took on trivializing child sexual assault, either s(ing)tfu or applying to have his own thread deleted would seem to be appropriate. NOT POSTING A BIG JAUNTY PICTURE.

If there was an apology there for the tone of the thread I missed it. It came straight from the top, too. The OP was the most mocking and trivializing post in the whole thread, as well as being, well, the OP.

DrunkCommiesDeleted:
Imagine that I'm 85 years old. Most of the people I've grown up with have died, most of the people in the entire world are younger than me, so much younger that they could be my grandchildren on average. Maybe I'm getting some sex, but more likely it's a bit of romance and a picnic from time to time.

Come over here you strapping lad, and help grandma out of her wheelchair. Watch out, I'm slipping. Ha! Gotcha! I've been doing my pelvic floor exercises all day, I'm gonna rip you penis clean off and keep it. Pastrami indeed. Thanks for the prune little boy.

e to time. Come over here you strapping lad, and help grandma out of her wheelchair. Watch out, I'm slipping. Ha! Gotcha! I've been doing my pelvic floor exercises all day, I'm gonna rip you penis clean off and keep it. Pastrami indeed. Thanks for the prune little boy.

Grandma must be awfully spry to get that kid interested. :p


Damn this thread is going to to do awful things to our minds. Images will be burned there forever...

One thing I simply cannot understand is how the majority of people in this thread think minors don't have enough "brain development" to make such decisions. What makes a... say... 14-year-old have worse judgement and less brainpower than an 18-year-old?

the frontal lobe does not develope until 16-ish I think.