Rudy G.
Why do many republicans hold him in such a high light? Don't they remember that before 9-11 he was just a do nothing mayor of New York with a bad prostate and an even worse marriage. So why is that this terrible former mayor of NYC is getting so much approval from the right? Did his association with 9-11 really give him that much spot light?
Why do many republicans hold him in such a high light? Don't they remember that before 9-11 he was just a do nothing mayor of New York with a bad prostate and an even worse marriage. So why is that this terrible former mayor of NYC is getting so much approval from the right? Did his association with 9-11 really give him that much spot light?
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I was under the impression that he had turned the city around...
Rudy's an asshole. He didn't turn shit around. The damn murderer.
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I was under the impression that he had turned the city around...
Hmm, well i have always heard bad things about him from many new yorkers I know. Maybe I just have really biased friends?
If so, then i feel really stupid right now :p
Hmm, well i have always heard bad things about him from many new yorkers I know. Maybe I just have really biased friends?
If so, then i feel really stupid right now :p
Well, I doubt I know any more about recent New York City government than you do, so don't go off feeling like that. I'd just heard that he had been successfully tough on crime and had managed the city's finances well. Not to mention he's one of the more socially enlightened Republicans...
If anybody wants to disabuse me of this, feel free. :p
IL Ruffino
15-02-2007, 06:21
He got rid of the hookers. I hate him.
Neo Undelia
15-02-2007, 06:21
Rudy's an asshole. He didn't turn shit around. The damn murderer.
What?
Unlike most politicians, he's actually a leader.
The Nazz
15-02-2007, 06:25
Why do many republicans hold him in such a high light? Don't they remember that before 9-11 he was just a do nothing mayor of New York with a bad prostate and an even worse marriage. So why is that this terrible former mayor of NYC is getting so much approval from the right? Did his association with 9-11 really give him that much spot light?
Short answer: Yes.
Longer answer: It's not really fair to call Giuliani a do-nothing mayor, though just how much he had to do with the NYC cleanup is up for debate. The rising economy helped him out a lot, but if Clinton gets to take credit for that period, then so does Giuliani, I guess. But in the end, post- 9/11 no one remembers that Giuliani's approval numbers in NYC before the attacks were in the mid to high 30s--Bush territory after a disastrous war. They just remember him on the tv when Bush and Cheney were nowhere to be found.
But in the end, post- 9/11 no one remembers that Giuliani's approval numbers in NYC before the attacks were in the mid to high 30s--Bush territory after a disastrous war.
Well, that's surprising. Why so low?
The Scandinvans
15-02-2007, 06:27
What?
Unlike most politicians, he's actually a leader.Though I like a guy.
Look at Hitler he was true natural leader, and and look what happened.
Though I like a guy.
Look at Hitler he was true natural leader, and and look what happened.
Is that a godwin...before page two? :p
Imperial isa
15-02-2007, 06:31
Who
Is that a godwin...before page two? :p
Uh... *Checks rulebook* no. Godwins need someone to be CALLED Hitler or said to be Hilter, not a historical mention.
Uh... *Checks rulebook* no. Godwins need someone to be CALLED Hitler or said to be Hilter, not a historical mention.
Oh I thought making a comparison like that was in there some where. oh well :)
The Nazz
15-02-2007, 06:32
Well, that's surprising. Why so low?
Because he's a thin-skinned authoritarian asshole who goes after people personally over even minor differences of opinion. Then there was the way he handled the many police brutality cases while he was Mayor--let's just say that the cops got away with murder a few times and he was doing everything but applauding openly.
Sarkhaan
15-02-2007, 06:34
Because he's a thin-skinned authoritarian asshole who goes after people personally over even minor differences of opinion. Then there was the way he handled the many police brutality cases while he was Mayor--let's just say that the cops got away with murder a few times and he was doing everything but applauding openly.
TG. Some fun little twist on life thanks to Santorum and Rudy.
Free Soviets
15-02-2007, 06:34
Well, that's surprising. Why so low?
louima, diallo, dorismond, etc.
Free Soviets
15-02-2007, 06:36
let's just say that the cops got away with murder a few times and he was doing everything including applauding openly.
fixed
shit, he even violated state law in order to better blame the victims
Because he's a thin-skinned authoritarian asshole who goes after people personally over even minor differences of opinion. Then there was the way he handled the many police brutality cases while he was Mayor--let's just say that the cops got away with murder a few times and he was doing everything but applauding openly.
louima, diallo, dorismond, etc.
Hmm... odd that this hasn't been born out by the press yet.
At least we know 2008 will be an interesting election year...
EDIT: This (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29503) the kind of thing you're talking about? If so, then wow.
Hmm... odd that this hasn't been born out by the press yet.
At least we know 2008 will be an interesting election year...
EDIT: This (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29503) the kind of thing you're talking about? If so, then wow.
That IS from the Onion, ya know? :p
The Nazz
15-02-2007, 06:44
Hmm... odd that this hasn't been born out by the press yet.
At least we know 2008 will be an interesting election year...
It'll come out when McCain's and Romney's oppo research guys get going on him. This election season is gonna get ugly--old people at an all you can eat early bird buffet ugly.
That IS from the Onion, ya know? :p
Well, duh; I did look up the article myself. I'd just always thought that it was more Onion absurdity rather than potent political satire.
Well, duh; I did look up the article myself. I'd just always thought that it was more Onion absurdity rather than potent political satire.
Ooh, I thought you believed the article. And I was going to slap you. Maybe I just need to go to bed, before I further embarrass myself :(
The Nazz
15-02-2007, 06:51
Ooh, I thought you believed the article. And I was going to slap you. Maybe I just need to go to bed, before I further embarrass myself :(
No no no. Stay awake so we may mock you and make sport of you in public! :D
Free Soviets
15-02-2007, 06:53
That IS from the Onion, ya know? :p
the story sounds like it's taking off the diallo murder - when 4 cops unloaded their guns (and then reloaded) into a non-threatening unarmed guy.
edit: yeah, the dates work out about right
Free Soviets
15-02-2007, 06:55
Well, duh; I did look up the article myself. I'd just always thought that it was more Onion absurdity rather than potent political satire.
even the absurd is usually satire with them
TotalDomination69
15-02-2007, 09:14
I saw him hanging around a Hawaiian once!...*looks around* :eek:
Callisdrun
15-02-2007, 09:26
I don't like Giuliani because from what I hear he's an authoritarian asshole.