NationStates Jolt Archive

But I heard that every cut bouquet of roses would raise the ocean temperature by 1 degree.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/10/nbouquet10.xml

Somehow, I don't think global warming can be used as an excuse for forgetting that bouquet.

They sujest growing your own bunch of flowers but February is a little early. Most plants would need to be forced on under heat and posibly get extra light.

I've never understood the flower thing. Seriously, take me to the movies or cook me dinner. What's the point of something that will die in less than a week?

They sujest growing your own bunch of flowers but February is a little early. Most plants would need to be forced on under heat and posibly get extra light.

Even in tropical Georgia, we'd have a little trouble growing our own fresh flowers. But a greenhouse would help. Let's see... run the car for a little longer each evening, buy some aerosol deodorant, feed the cows Mexican food...In a few years, we should be able to grow those February flowers!

I have roses in my garden growing at the mo, so if I wasn't chronically single I would be fine.

Whoever suggested this is blatantly single.

I've never understood the flower thing. Seriously, take me to the movies or cook me dinner. What's the point of something that will die in less than a week?

rose oil has been used in the past as an aphrodisiac for women. ;) (no source, i just remember hearing it.)

anyway, I don't expect flowers, I don't particularly like them, but last mothers day when 4 dozen showed up at my door, I was happy. :D

Whoever suggested this is blatantly single.

"Blatantly single" ... I like that. :D

"Blatantly single" ... I like that. :D

:D

Meh, in a way, flowers are evil all year round simply because of the appalling conditions under which they are grown, i.e. at least in the countries of the Southern Hemisphere involving people working without protection with pesticides and herbicides etc..

Compared to food prodcution this has been pretty underreported in the mainstream media. I have been meaning to read up on it for literally years but haven't. :rolleyes: I try not to buy the flowers stocked in the discount supermarkets and big flower shop chains here (Germany) just on assumption that since they are the cheapest they're likely the ones to come from the cheapest production. There's apparently a seal for organically produced flowers but I have yet to come across that.

Meh, in a way, flowers are evil all year round simply because of the appalling conditions under which they are grown,

Floral veal?

Floral veal?Worse. Floral mink. Actually, make that bananas.

Worse. Floral mink. Actually, make that bananas.

I see this is a serious problem. What should we do? Stop wearing flowers? Don't eat the daisies?

I see this is a serious problem. What should we do? Stop wearing flowers? Don't eat the daisies?

You're eating daisies?! :eek:

Daisy killer. :mad:

Organic farmers are pretentious dicks. I'd rather give my money to the struggling farmers in the third world.

Every cut bouquet?

Then by my count, the ocean should be about...

2 million degrees farenheight.

Worse. Floral mink. Actually, make that bananas.

Bananas? :confused:

Bananas? :confused:
http://www.banafair.de/partner/emaus/eng/sad.htm
If you google banana and pesticides or banana plantations or anything like that you'll find many more links, many of which will probably be better than this one, too.

In a nutshell, bananas are one of the biggest cashcrops for a number of esp. Central and South American countries, the plantations are in the hands of a few global players like Dole, the use of highly toxic pesticides is overwhelming, the protection of the workers practically non-existent (e.g. spraying the plantation with pesticides while the workers are in there). I assume it has gotten a bit better in the last 5 years or so, with growing international awareness and pressure, but I remember seeing a documentary maybe two years ago about a village of plantation workers in Central America where the vast majority of men had become sterile and the rate of children born with severe birth defects was staggering. No fault of the pesticides, of course, according to the smug PR guys of the company that owned the plantation.

Bananas are one of the few things I consistently buy only as organic and/or fair trade. :/


Organic farmers are pretentious dicks. I'd rather give my money to the struggling farmers in the third world.Excellent. Then surely you only buy Fair Trade products (who also overwhelmingly happen to be organic) right? Not, say, the usual stuff in the supermarket which only fills the pockets of the international companies that make sure the third world farmers they buy from are kept struggling, right?

Every cut bouquet?

Then by my count, the ocean should be about...

2 million degrees farenheight.

My God, we're fucked! Global warming is worse than we thought!

My God, we're fucked! Global warming is worse than we thought!

Whoops. Miscalculated. It's really more like 1 billion farenheight.

Seriously, +1 degree for EVERY BOUQUET? Maybe every 1 billion bouquets...

Whoops. Miscalculated. It's really more like 1 billion farenheight.

Seriously, +1 degree for EVERY BOUQUET? Maybe every 1 billion bouquets...

Meh it's the same with most things global warming. Cut down that tree outside your house? You're contributing to global warming. Drive to work instead of catching the bus? You're a monster. Of course, the only way to stop global warming would be to stop deforesting and switch to nuclear, rather than bitching about your next door neighbour losing a few leaves.

http://www.banafair.de/partner/emaus/eng/sad.htm
If you google banana and pesticides or banana plantations or anything like that you'll find many more links, many of which will probably be better than this one, too.

Interesting. I didn't know that, although (like with everything else produced outside our green and pleasant land) I'd assumed they were produced by underpaid workers in bad conditions. I didn't know it was that bad for the environment, however, and I care about that a lot more than the workers (terrible? Maybe).

I just checked my nanas, though, and they're from Colombia. Apparently things aren't quite so bad there, and the UK's association of banana importers has ethical trading codes of conduct (source: section 5.4 (http://www.fao.org/docrep/007/y5102e/y5102e08.htm)). So probably I'm not killing so many banana farmers as most, and they probably have to worry more about being sprayed with War On Drugs herbicides anyway.

You know what I'd really, really like from bananas? The supermarkets to sell me them when they're actually ripe, not green and with a tendency to go greyish and nasty after a few days. If fairtrade organic bananas meet that criteria I'll buy 'em.

The article says that freighting the flowers across the world is what contributes to global warming...not the flowers themselves *cough*

But I heard that every cut bouquet of roses would raise the ocean temperature by 1 degree.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/10/nbouquet10.xml

Somehow, I don't think global warming can be used as an excuse for forgetting that bouquet.

So, give me chocolate. Or a gift certificate to Borders. Or take me to a good restaurant. Or all three. I don't need flowers.

The article says that freighting the flowers across the world is what contributes to global warming...not the flowers themselves *cough*
In case that was addressed to me: I know. :p

I just wanted to point out that the shipping isn't the only thing that is problematic about most of the flowers we buy.

So, give me chocolate. Or a gift certificate to Borders. Or take me to a good restaurant. Or all three. I don't need flowers.

But I hardly know you...

But I heard that every cut bouquet of roses would raise the ocean temperature by 1 degree.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/10/nbouquet10.xml

Somehow, I don't think global warming can be used as an excuse for forgetting that bouquet.

Lolz.