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Or think that taxing (http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=564370)an oil company profit because it's large would actually be a good idea. Not to mention that he probably hasn't a clue about the difference between profit and gross margin.


Madison - Gov. Jim Doyle will unveil a tax on oil companies on Tuesday but will bar the firms from passing it on to consumers.


One thing I notice is that not many oil companies are headquartered in Wisconsin. I guess that means all the gas station owners are going to have to pony up to satisfy Governor Doyle. I still wonder where he expects to find $114 million from gas stations in Wisconsin.

It isn't half as stupid, unreasonable, absurd, disastrous and indefensible as invading Iraq, come on.

You are right. If they taxed big oil, that might get in the way of 400 million dollar retirement packages for the execs.

You are right. If they taxed big oil, that might get in the way of 400 million dollar retirement packages for the execs.

*cough*


One thing I notice is that not many oil companies are headquartered in Wisconsin. I guess that means all the gas station owners are going to have to pony up to satisfy Governor Doyle. I still wonder where he expects to find $114 million from gas stations in Wisconsin.

Why not just ban abortion and tax clothes hangers?

You are right. If they taxed big oil, that might get in the way of 400 million dollar retirement packages for the execs.

The money wouldn't be coming out of the execs' pockets, it'd be coming out of the pockets of the workers.

The money wouldn't be coming out of the execs' pockets, it'd be coming out of the pockets of the workers.

There are only a couple places that the money _can_ come from. Pay is one, the future of the company in the form of capital improvements is another, and the consumers are the other. Well, the shareholders are the fourth, but that's probably properly considered to be compensation, too.

Why not just ban abortion and tax clothes hangers?

Cause that would mane everything too easy :rolleyes:

Well, okay, let's take away these companies' money that they would have normally used to invest in new infrastructure, and then prevent them from passing the costs on to consumers...that won't hurt their ability to grow or invest at all.

You know what's a fun fact? Exxon and all the other US oil companies pay more in taxes to the government than they make off of their US operations. That's one big reason why they're not particularly keen on investing here...it's not profitable due to the taxes.

If you're going to tax oil, you tax gasoline. Make the consumer pay for the damage caused by their consumption.

Well, okay, let's take away these companies' money that they would have normally used to invest in new infrastructure, and then prevent them from passing the costs on to consumers...that won't hurt their ability to grow or invest at all.

You know what's a fun fact? Exxon and all the other US oil companies pay more in taxes to the government than they make off of their US operations. That's one big reason why they're not particularly keen on investing here...it's not profitable due to the taxes.

If you're going to tax oil, you tax gasoline. Make the consumer pay for the damage caused by their consumption.

But you can't get those people to vote for you...

You know what's a fun fact? Exxon and all the other US oil companies pay more in taxes to the government than they make off of their US operations. That's one big reason why they're not particularly keen on investing here...it's not profitable due to the taxes.


I am gonna need a source for that.

especially since they haven't been paying their royalties for drilling our oil. (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/12/04/cbsnews_investigates/main2227182.shtml)

Communism, Bitch. Its back.

Your bipartisanship is a model for us all.

Your bipartisanship is a model for us all.
Never made that claim. I don't like Republicans, either, if that makes you feel more equally offended.

Communism, Bitch. Its back.

In soviet russia, Bitch, communism, is back!

Only a Democrat Would Think of This...
Only a partisan hack would bother making a point of the political party of a governor trying to pass some measure they don't like.

Or think that taxing (http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=564370)an oil company profit because it's large would actually be a good idea. Not to mention that he probably hasn't a clue about the difference between profit and gross margin.



One thing I notice is that not many oil companies are headquartered in Wisconsin. I guess that means all the gas station owners are going to have to pony up to satisfy Governor Doyle. I still wonder where he expects to find $114 million from gas stations in Wisconsin.

Yeah. Taxing people because they have money is a dumb idea. Like Limbaugh said, we should put a tax on NOT having money. It's an iron clad law of economics that if you tax something you get more of it and if you subsidize it you get more. If we want more oil we should give more money to oil companies and charge taxes on not having oil. I know my oil burner would be a lot fuller if I had to pay taxes on how much empty space was in it.

And that whole "protecting middle class consumers" thing... You're totally right. Only a Democrat would think of that.

In soviet russia, Bitch, communism, is back!Lame, if you're going to make that sort of joke it has to at least kinda relevant to Soviet Russia. Like 'In USA you come to a party, in Soviet Russia The Party comes for you.'

So in this situation you might say -

In USA they bitch about communism coming back. In Soviet Russia the communists are scared of The Bitch coming back.
http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/nta0003l.jpg

or something like that.

I likes Soviet jokes. :)

Like - The editor in chief of Pravda was touring the USSR, asking people what they wanted in their papers that he wasn't already providing. Someone remarked, "Lighter ink." The editor asked, "Why?" The spectator remarked, "Because our asses are all black."

“What to do if vodka interferes with the job?”
“Get off the job.”

“Why Lenin wore regular shoes, but Stalin wore boots?”
“At Lenin's time, Russia was still only ankle-high in shit.”

“What is a Soviet musical duet?”
“It's a musical quartet after a trip abroad.”

“When Nixon visited Moscow, he and Khrushchev ran around the Kremlin in a race. Nixon came the first. How should our media report on that?”
“The report should be as follows: ‘In the international running competition the General Secretary of the Communist Party took the honorable second place.’ Mister Nixon came in one before last.”

“What is the difference between the Constitutions of the USA and USSR?” Both guarantee freedom of speech.”
“Yes, but the Constitution of the USA also guarantees freedom after the speech.”

Okay... I'll stop now.

Never made that claim. I don't like Republicans, either, if that makes you feel more equally offended.
Nobody is going to believe you because you never make threads that bash Republicans.

“What is the difference between the Constitutions of the USA and USSR?” Both guarantee freedom of speech.”
“Yes, but the Constitution of the USA also guarantees freedom after the speech.”

Okay... I'll stop now.

heh, heh.

As a Wisconsin resident, I'm pissed I had to vote for Doyle. Had the Republicans not ran Mark Green (Bush-backer extraordinare), then I wouldn't have.

Here's an article that more extensively outlines his budget proposal.

http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070214/APC0101/702140695/1003/APCnews

I'm rather mixed on his proposals, but I'm sure of one thing...the Republican controlled Assembly will be more than capable of forcing concessions on the matter, and there are a LOT of unhappy people in the state right now who will support those Republicans.

Doyle's upping annual taxes on nursing home beds, for fucks sake. :mad: