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I have a term paper for history. What should I do it on?

Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 17:20
Some of my choices were:
Assyria
Poland-Lithuania
Fourth Crusade
the Papal States
the Holy Roman Empire
Collapse of the Roman Empire
Collapse of the Soviet Union
Destruction of the Byzantine Empire
WWI
WWII

so what do you think, what do you think I should do my term paper on?
The Infinite Dunes
14-02-2007, 17:22
I think you should wait until the last minute. Procrastination by its very essence never fails.
Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 17:24
Do your paper on how homework threads are against the rules here.

I'm just asking your opinion on the best period or event in history to do my paper on. I am not asking you to write the paper for me. Is it still against the rule to ask an opinion.
Kanabia
14-02-2007, 17:24
Those are pretty interesting choices.

Are there any specific questions relating to the topics? Just a paper on "World War 2" would be too broad, but you would be able to manage the one on the causes of the USSR's collapse, for example (and in fact...i've done one on that same topic before.)

Poland-Lithuania had an interesting history, though.
Cluichstan
14-02-2007, 17:24
Do your paper on how homework threads are against the rules here.
Kiryu-shi
14-02-2007, 17:25
Your birth.

(by the way, HW help threads aren't that legal on NSG...)

Edit: *is slow*
Ifreann
14-02-2007, 17:25
Some of my choices were:
Assyria
Poland-Lithuania
Fourth Crusade
the Papal States
the Holy Roman Empire
Collapse of the Roman Empire
Collapse of the Soviet Union
Destruction of the Byzantine Empire
WWI
WWII

so what do you think, what do you think I should do my term paper on?

Do it on all of them, and how they affected each other.
Farnhamia
14-02-2007, 17:25
Some of my choices were:
Assyria
Poland-Lithuania
Fourth Crusade
the Papal States
the Holy Roman Empire
Collapse of the Roman Empire
Collapse of the Soviet Union
Destruction of the Byzantine Empire
WWI
WWII

so what do you think, what do you think I should do my term paper on?

All of them. They're all directly related to one another and in fact are all part of a huge Illuminati/Templar/Freemason/Elders of Zion conspiracy that's been running the world since before the beginning. I guarantee men with black suits and dark glasses will come calling.
I V Stalin
14-02-2007, 17:25
Some of those are very broad choices...

I mean, WWII? Are we talking Africa? Pacific? China? Western Europe? Eastern Europe?

What were the rest of your choices?
Celtlund
14-02-2007, 17:26
Some of my choices were:
Assyria
Poland-Lithuania
Fourth Crusade
the Papal States
the Holy Roman Empire
Collapse of the Roman Empire
Collapse of the Soviet Union
Destruction of the Byzantine Empire
WWI
WWII

so what do you think, what do you think I should do my term paper on?

Whichever of the above most interests you. :rolleyes:
Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 17:26
Some of those are very broad choices...

I mean, WWII? Are we talking Africa? Pacific? China? Western Europe? Eastern Europe?

What were the rest of your choices?

Lets see, uh

Babylon
Persia
China- Han Dynasty
Venice
Austria-Hungary
Charlemagne
Germanic Civilization
Britain
War of the Roses
French revolution
Napoleonic Era

Pretty much anything that catches my fancy.
Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 17:27
All of them. They're all directly related to one another and in fact are all part of a huge Illuminati/Templar/Freemason/Elders of Zion conspiracy that's been running the world since before the beginning. I guarantee men with black suits and dark glasses will come calling.

They already have :( I am posting from a dark underground federal prison.
Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 17:27
Do it on all of them, and how they affected each other.

Well most of them happen in drasticly different time periods so that would be hard to do.
Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 17:28
Do it on David Hasselhoff.

http://www.lovethehoff.com/images/hoff.gif

YES! That has to be the most historical thing ever, *begins typing furiously* :rolleyes:
Cluichstan
14-02-2007, 17:29
Do it on David Hasselhoff.

http://www.lovethehoff.com/images/hoff.gif
Slartiblartfast
14-02-2007, 17:30
Chose a topic where there has been a movie made about it - research then becomes enjoyable

*disclaimer - ignore any historical movie by Mel Gibson*
Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 17:30
Chose a topic where there has been a movie made about it - research then becomes enjoyable

*disclaimer - ignore any historical movie by Mel Gibson*

Such as the Passion to the Christ, Apocalypa (I think that is how it is spelled) anything that has directed by Mel Gibson basiclly.
Call to power
14-02-2007, 17:32
do the French revolution its a very awesome time to do especially if you focus on the later periods

Though out of your list the destruction of the Byzantine empire is the most awesome to do
Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 17:33
do the French revolution its a very awesome time to do especially if you focus on the later periods

Though out of your list the destruction of the Byzantine empire is the most awesome to do

Yep.
Kanabia
14-02-2007, 17:44
Whichever of the above most interests you. :rolleyes:

I find that's generally a bad sort of policy to follow. What interests you may not be the easiest topic to adapt to a paper and you might get better marks doing something else. Throughout university I dropped a lot of topics that sounded really awesome because I knew I could do better doing something boring, yet far easier to research.
Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 17:44
I find that's generally a bad sort of policy to follow. What interests you may not be the easiest topic to adapt to a paper and you might get better marks doing something else. Throughout university I dropped a lot of topics that sounded really awesome because I knew I could do better doing something boring, yet far easier to research.

The easiest most boring topic for a paper I can think of would have to be the Roman Empire, that stuff was thrown at me from third grade all the way up to the 12th, I know most of it by heart, I could be done in five seconds.
Kanabia
14-02-2007, 18:01
The easiest most boring topic for a paper I can think of would have to be the Roman Empire, that stuff was thrown at me from third grade all the way up to the 12th, I know most of it by heart, I could be done in five seconds.

(I'm assuming you're in university here...if you're in high school, it probably doesn't matter as much)

If you think you can get the best marks for it with the least amount of effort, that's the smart thing to do.

Unfortunately...modern education systems (at least in the humanities) don't really seem to be geared towards learning so much as they are end results. Marks are all that matters to bureaucrats within the uni and employers at the end of it. The latter in particular don't care whether or not you can explain exactly who Barbarossa was or how the Ottoman Empire formed - they want to see big shiny distinctions and high distinctions on your record. Throughout university, I learnt this fact after my first year and pretty much followed the above philosophy. It was simply prudent to pick subjects (and to a lesser extent, essay topics) that I knew things about.

I definitely had more fun when learning completely new things (and obviously learnt a lot more) - but it would have been foolish for me to continue learning French, for example, since it dragged my average mark down a lot and prevented me from changing to a double arts/law or arts/science degree, which is what I was set on in the beginnning. I had to drop that ambition because of a foolish mistake on my part (studying a new language in this example), and the uni wouldn't budge on it. I spent the rest of my course trying to catch up again. Now if i'd picked the first year World War 2 history course...I would have been laughing all the way.

I suppose the end result is...do what you have to in order to get ahead - if it's boring, but easy and you can get good marks, just grin and bear it. This applies to essays as well, in case you're wondering on the relevance of my rant. ;) You can always research anything you find interesting in your own time, which is what I do now.
Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 18:13
(I'm assuming you're in university here...if you're in high school, it probably doesn't matter as much)

If you think you can get the best marks for it with the least amount of effort, that's the smart thing to do.

Unfortunately...modern education systems (at least in the humanities) don't really seem to be geared towards learning so much as they are end results. Marks are all that matters to bureaucrats within the uni and employers at the end of it. The latter in particular don't care whether or not you can explain exactly who Barbarossa was or how the Ottoman Empire formed - they want to see big shiny distinctions and high distinctions on your record. Throughout university, I learnt this fact after my first year and pretty much followed the above philosophy. It was simply prudent to pick subjects (and to a lesser extent, essay topics) that I knew things about.

I definitely had more fun when learning completely new things (and obviously learnt a lot more) - but it would have been foolish for me to continue learning French, for example, since it dragged my average mark down a lot and prevented me from changing to a double arts/law or arts/science degree, which is what I was set on in the beginnning. I had to drop that ambition because of a foolish mistake on my part (studying a new language in this example), and the uni wouldn't budge on it. I spent the rest of my course trying to catch up again. Now if i'd picked the first year World War 2 history course...I would have been laughing all the way.

I suppose the end result is...do what you have to in order to get ahead - if it's boring, but easy and you can get good marks, just grin and bear it. This applies to essays as well, in case you're wondering on the relevance of my rant. ;) You can always research anything you find interesting in your own time, which is what I do now.

I am in UT, and I agree with everything you said, I could get better grades from doing a topic I know a lot about, and have studied time and time again, but I would get more satisfaction from actually learning something new and interesting in history. I have to say History is the best subject ever really, that and military history. I guess they could be counted as one and the same.
Kanabia
14-02-2007, 18:22
I am in UT, and I agree with everything you said, I could get better grades from doing a topic I know a lot about, and have studied time and time again, but I would get more satisfaction from actually learning something new and interesting in history. I have to say History is the best subject ever really, that and military history. I guess they could be counted as one and the same.

I liked history, and have a lot of background knowledge in it. In retrospect, I probably should have picked it as one of my majors (I did a double major - history may still count as a minor, but i'm not sure...i'm waiting on my graduation for that). Unfortunately, I screwed that idea up back in my first year too based upon my subject picks back then.

I agree on the satisfication point...it's just up to you whether you want to go for the marks or the fulfillment. (If you have exams, though, and are prohibited from writing a 2/3 hour exam on the same topic that you wrote your essay on...sometimes it's prudent to save what you have the most general knowledge for on that.)
Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 18:27
I liked history, and have a lot of background knowledge in it. In retrospect, I probably should have picked it as one of my majors (I did a double major - history may still count as a minor, but i'm not sure...i'm waiting on my graduation for that). Unfortunately, I screwed that idea up back in my first year too based upon my subject picks back then.

I agree on the satisfication point...it's just up to you whether you want to go for the marks or the fulfillment. (If you have exams, though, and are prohibited from writing a 2/3 hour exam on the same topic that you wrote your essay on...sometimes it's prudent to save what you have the most general knowledge for on that.)

good point. Maybe I will just write my paper on the Russian Empire, that is something I know a bit about, and am mildly interested in, but that too is something that has been thrown at me all my life. The topic I really want to write on, is medieval Europe, from a broader standpoint, examining each nation/kingdom/dukedom/empire, and their affects on Medieval europe.
United Beleriand
14-02-2007, 18:36
Some of my choices were:
Assyria
Poland-Lithuania
Fourth Crusade
the Papal States
the Holy Roman Empire
Collapse of the Roman Empire
Collapse of the Soviet Union
Destruction of the Byzantine Empire
WWI
WWII

so what do you think, what do you think I should do my term paper on?Assyria, of course. The other subjects are already sufficiently explored. While folks know almost nothing about ancient history, because it's all messed up with biblical crap.
Undbagarten
14-02-2007, 18:38
Assyria, of course. The other subjects are already sufficiently explored. While folks know almost nothing about ancient history, because it's all messed up with biblical crap.

True,
Dododecapod
14-02-2007, 18:56
I'd say the fall of Byzantium. Work forward from the high point under Justinian; that's full of interesting people, like Belisarius, Narses, Justinian himself and his wife (can't think of her name right off), then move through the emperors, the sack at the hands of the Crusaders, and the defeat of the city by Mehmet.

It's a work of human grandeur and human failing. If you emphasize the common man and his travails, you can't do far wrong.
Nationalian
14-02-2007, 19:09
Write about the collapse of the Soviet Union. You can put many personal reflections in it and you can compare the USSR with the ex soviet countries today.
Greyenivol Colony
14-02-2007, 19:20
Rzeczpospolita Polski-Lituanie.
Der Teutoniker
14-02-2007, 19:26
Some of my choices were:
Assyria
Poland-Lithuania
Fourth Crusade
the Papal States
the Holy Roman Empire
Collapse of the Roman Empire
Collapse of the Soviet Union
Destruction of the Byzantine Empire
WWI
WWII

so what do you think, what do you think I should do my term paper on?

The Fourth Crusade is pretty good since most people think that the Crusades sole purpose was only for Christians to kill Muslims.

Another choice (and probably the one I would do) is the Holy Roman Empire, there is a good thousand years of history there that many people don't know much about, and... you know Germany (almost) good times!
Prodigal Penguins
14-02-2007, 19:38
Some of my choices were:
Assyria
Poland-Lithuania
Fourth Crusade
the Papal States
the Holy Roman Empire
Collapse of the Roman Empire
Collapse of the Soviet Union
Destruction of the Byzantine Empire
WWI
WWII

so what do you think, what do you think I should do my term paper on?

Pick the one you know the least about. If that fails, choose a topic that is the most narrow within the resources you have available. If all else fails, ask your teacher for advice.

The trick is to do something that you will learn from and be the most open-minded about.
Motig
14-02-2007, 19:40
I would write about WWII. Just because I would focus on weapons development.

I have only written one history paper... and it was about the history of things that fell on my Birthday... I found out that one year on my birthday Viagra was invented! I had an entire page devoted to sexual advances... It was a long paper...
Kryozerkia
14-02-2007, 19:44
Some of my choices were:
Assyria
Poland-Lithuania
Fourth Crusade
the Papal States
the Holy Roman Empire
Collapse of the Roman Empire
Collapse of the Soviet Union
Destruction of the Byzantine Empire
WWI
WWII

so what do you think, what do you think I should do my term paper on?

WWII: How Procrastination Would have Change History
IDF
14-02-2007, 19:46
Some of my choices were:
Assyria
Poland-Lithuania
Fourth Crusade
the Papal States
the Holy Roman Empire
Collapse of the Roman Empire
Collapse of the Soviet Union
Destruction of the Byzantine Empire
WWI
WWII

so what do you think, what do you think I should do my term paper on?

WWI. I highly recommend you do it on the causes of it. Read Robert K. Massie's "Dreadnought" for your primary source. It's good. Also read some works by Churchill on the subject.
The Empire of Bristol
14-02-2007, 19:59
Do the nazis:sniper:
Johnny B Goode
14-02-2007, 19:59
Some of my choices were:
Assyria
Poland-Lithuania
Fourth Crusade
the Papal States
the Holy Roman Empire
Collapse of the Roman Empire
Collapse of the Soviet Union
Destruction of the Byzantine Empire
WWI
WWII

so what do you think, what do you think I should do my term paper on?

WWII - There's so much information on it, it'll be a piece of cake.
The blessed Chris
14-02-2007, 20:04
Either the collapse of the Byzantine empire, or the fourth crusade.
The blessed Chris
14-02-2007, 20:05
Do the nazis:sniper:

Thats fucking original
New Granada
14-02-2007, 20:05
Write about the collapse of the soviet union, it will give you an excuse to read and then cite Steven Coll's excellent, pulitzer-prize winning history of the CIA in Afghanistan, "Ghost Wars."