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Would it be acceptable for one date their first cousin?

Forsakia
14-02-2007, 01:20
The most important question is of course, how hot are they?


Edit: and if they can time warp well
Steel Butterfly
14-02-2007, 01:21
Ew...no...
Sel Appa
14-02-2007, 01:21
I was thinking about this today. What if two first-cousins liked each other enough to officially date and all that fun stuff. Would it be acceptable to you? Would you do it? Blood is too close? I'm thinking if they don't get "down and dirty", it would be fine. I have no first cousins aronud my age btw...

Poll Ahoy!
New Ritlina
14-02-2007, 01:22
Firstly: DO THE TIME WARP!

Secondly: They should do it realizing that any children they may have have the chance of having a birth defect.
Smunkeeville
14-02-2007, 01:24
it's legal in some US states (probably not the ones you think either)
Imperial isa
14-02-2007, 01:24
thats just fucked up so NO
Forsakia
14-02-2007, 01:26
Obviously, if you want to they'd have to be. I don't have any first cousins around my age btw...-_-

Hence the need for time-warping skills
Sel Appa
14-02-2007, 01:26
The most important question is of course, how hot are they?


Edit: and if they can time warp well

Obviously, if you want to they'd have to be. I don't have any first cousins around my age btw...-_-
New Genoa
14-02-2007, 01:26
No
New Ritlina
14-02-2007, 01:27
This thread is plagued with timewarp.
1010102
14-02-2007, 01:27
fuck no. to even suggest that is horrible.
Snafturi
14-02-2007, 01:28
Arrested Development.

Maeby: I'm surprised you tried out for this.
George-Michael: Yeah, I just love the theater.
Maeby: That's great. I'm just doing it to kiss Steve Holt.
George-Michael: Actually I think I'm going to quit. Yeah. Theater's dead.
Maeby: ... But he's always going to be at football practice so I'm going to have to kiss the stand-in.
George-Michael: But no. No. I love the theater, and I gave my word so I'm back in.
Forsakia
14-02-2007, 01:28
This thread is plagued with timewarp.

plagued is such a harsh word. It's being fluffled by a timewarp is all. It is Valentine's day and whatnot.
New Genoa
14-02-2007, 01:28
fuck no. to even suggest that is horrible.

yeah but what if they're hot? I mean...I think there's far less built in inhibitions when it comes to cousins versus lets say siblings or parents.
Andaluciae
14-02-2007, 01:29
It's acceptable, just not the sort of thing I'd do.
The blessed Chris
14-02-2007, 01:30
Not my cup of tea, however that probably reflects the state of my cousins more than anything else.:p
Smunkeeville
14-02-2007, 01:30
http://www.ncsl.org/programs/cyf/cousin%20map.gif
Neu Leonstein
14-02-2007, 01:30
-snip-
Anything on siblings? :p

Seriously though, I personally wouldn't do it. But I'm strong enough to say "hey, if it floats your boat, do whatever you want".
Dempublicents1
14-02-2007, 01:32
http://www.ncsl.org/programs/cyf/cousin%20map.gif

What's a double cousin?
Darknovae
14-02-2007, 01:33
plagued is such a harsh word. It's being fluffled by a timewarp is all. It is Valentine's day and whatnot.

Errr... Fluffle Day is March 8. The thread's not being fluffled, it's being plagued.
Dinaverg
14-02-2007, 01:33
Eh, don't have any attractive first cousins anyways.
Forsakia
14-02-2007, 01:35
Errr... Fluffle Day is March 8. The thread's not being fluffled, it's being plagued.

No appreciation for the romantic attentions of a time warp. :(
Smunkeeville
14-02-2007, 01:36
What's a double cousin?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_first_cousin
Greater Trostia
14-02-2007, 01:36
No way.

You know, I'm not one to bemoan "traditional values," but kids these days support legalization of necrophilia and incest and child rape. WTF is wrong with people?
Kiryu-shi
14-02-2007, 01:38
I'm the proud descendant of cousin loving. Although I wouldn't do it meself.

In my family, the kid of an aunt/nephew marriage married the nephew/father's sister's kid. :eek:
Minaris
14-02-2007, 01:39
Errr... Fluffle Day is March 8. The thread's not being fluffled, it's being plagued.

And besides, a fuffled page looks like so:

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Dinaverg
14-02-2007, 01:39
if your parents are first cousins and they have a child (you) and your mother's sister has a child (your cousin) you are double cousins.
I'm the proud descendant of cousin loving. Although I wouldn't do it meself.

In my family, the kid of an aunt/nephew marriage married the nephew/father's sister's kid. :eek:


...Hmm...

Nope, I'm gonna need some kind of flow chart.
Kyronea
14-02-2007, 01:40
I was thinking about this today. What if two first-cousins liked each other enough to officially date and all that fun stuff. Would it be acceptable to you? Would you do it? Blood is too close? I'm thinking if they don't get "down and dirty", it would be fine. I have no first cousins aronud my age btw...

Poll Ahoy!

Yes, it's fine, but I wouldn't do it. Mainly because all of my cousins are red-neck fuckwads whom I never want anything to do with. Now, if I had an intelligent, kind, caring, neato cousin who shared my interests and all that jazz...maybe.
Forsakia
14-02-2007, 01:40
And besides, a fuffled page looks like so:

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Yes, but I'm too n00bish to know of such things.:)
Imperial isa
14-02-2007, 01:40
http://www.ncsl.org/programs/cyf/cousin%20map.gif

First cousin marrage legal under certain circumstances, hate to think what the circumstances are
Extreme Ironing
14-02-2007, 01:41
I see no problem with it, but am not attracted to any of my cousins.
IL Ruffino
14-02-2007, 01:41
I'm the proud descendant of cousin loving. Although I wouldn't do it meself.

In my family, the kid of an aunt/nephew marriage married the nephew/father's sister's kid. :eek:

O_o
Free Soviets
14-02-2007, 01:42
What's a double cousin?

if you are cousins with a person through both your mom and your dad (including removed's of whatever level)

even better is quadruple first cousins; possible when one pair of identical twins gets with another pair of identical twins. the resulting children cousins are genetically indistinguishable from full siblings.
Free Soviets
14-02-2007, 01:42
First cousin marrage legal under certain circumstances, hate to think what the circumstances are

typically, incapacity to have children or above a certain age.
Forsakia
14-02-2007, 01:43
if you are cousins with a person through both your mom and your dad (including removed's of whatever level)

even better is quadruple first cousins; possible when one pair of identical twins gets with another pair of identical twins. the resulting children cousins are genetically indistinguishable from full siblings.

All I can say is: Bwah?
Sel Appa
14-02-2007, 01:45
Errr... Fluffle Day is March 8. The thread's not being fluffled, it's being plagued.

:D :fluffle:
Imperial isa
14-02-2007, 01:47
typically, incapacity to have children or above a certain age.

i hope so as what just pop in my head is a case i hope not i hear
United Chicken Kleptos
14-02-2007, 01:48
I have no problem with it. Weird thing is is that I'd be willing to have sex with my half-sister.
Sel Appa
14-02-2007, 01:48
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_first_cousin

When identical twins reproduce with identical twins the resulting children are quadruple first cousins (genetically indistinguishable from full siblings).

:eek:
Forsakia
14-02-2007, 01:49
if you are cousins with a person through both your mom and your dad (including removed's of whatever level)

even better is quadruple first cousins; possible when one pair of identical twins gets with another pair of identical twins. the resulting children cousins are genetically indistinguishable from full siblings.

What if the sets of identical twins are already cousins to begin with:eek:
Ashmoria
14-02-2007, 01:50
there is nothing wrong with it but before you do you should talk to your family. no sense having everyone freak out.

i wouldnt do it but thats mostly because my first cousins are not attractive to me.
Free Soviets
14-02-2007, 01:52
When identical twins reproduce with identical twins the resulting children are quadruple first cousins (genetically indistinguishable from full siblings).

:eek:

well it makes sense. identical twins have the same genes. so between the four people involved in the setup, there would only be two sets of genes. thus the children cousins of each set would genetically look exactly like full siblings from one couple.

i wonder how often it comes up? i mean, they are identical twins, so their tastes in the opposite sex should be similar. and you can't get more similar than another set of twins.
New Genoa
14-02-2007, 01:53
I have no problem with it. Weird thing is is that I'd be willing to have sex with my half-sister.

Too far.:eek:
Dinaverg
14-02-2007, 01:53
What if the sets of identical twins are already cousins to begin with:eek:

Again, flow chart please.
Smunkeeville
14-02-2007, 01:56
...Hmm...

Nope, I'm gonna need some kind of flow chart.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/Smunkee/doublecousin.jpg
Dinaverg
14-02-2007, 02:00
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/Smunkee/doublecousin.jpg

a'ight, what about the aunt/nephew nnephew/father sister thing?
Forsakia
14-02-2007, 02:03
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/TP4CCCC/untitled.jpg

I think...
Dinaverg
14-02-2007, 02:10
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/TP4CCCC/untitled.jpg

I think...

Wait, that's difeerent from Smunkee's....
Free Soviets
14-02-2007, 02:11
What if the sets of identical twins are already cousins to begin with:eek:

their kids would be genetically closer than full siblings. by, what, 12.5% maybe?
Forsakia
14-02-2007, 02:11
Wait, that's difeerent from Smunkee's....

Hang on, mine was going from wikipedia, I think I've done quadruple cousins rather than double, or something:confused:
Novus-America
14-02-2007, 02:16
Intermarriage between cousins is what killed the Hapsburgs and why the Amish are dying off. I'll have none of that, thank you.
Free Soviets
14-02-2007, 02:16
Hang on, mine was going from wikipedia, I think I've done quadruple cousins rather than double, or something:confused:

are 1a and 1b siblings, or are 1a and 2a siblings? that'll change things up a bit - the first option has way more inbreeding, for one.
Forsakia
14-02-2007, 02:19
are 1a and 1b siblings, or are 1a and 2a siblings? that'll change things up a bit - the first option has way more inbreeding, for one.

1a and 1b are siblings. As are 2a and 2b. Meh, I'm confused, incest FTW
Free Soviets
14-02-2007, 02:22
Intermarriage between cousins is what killed the Hapsburgs and why the Amish are dying off. I'll have none of that, thank you.

inbreeding can lead to inbreeding depression (which is bad), but it can easily be remedied by merely not doing it all the time. genetically, there is not much of a problem with it on an occasional basis.
Vetalia
14-02-2007, 02:26
It won't be acceptable; like it or not, our society doesn't look particularly kindly on people having sex with their blood relatives. You're probably going to run in to some problems if word gets around.

Me? Personally, I don't care. It's not the wisest thing socially, and there are some mental and biological problems associated with inbreeding, but if you're not hurting anyone I don't think it's particularly a problem. Go for it, but know the possible consequences.
United Chicken Kleptos
14-02-2007, 02:29
Too far.:eek:

I knew I'd go too far by saying it, but it's the truth.
Free Soviets
14-02-2007, 02:33
1a and 1b are siblings. As are 2a and 2b. Meh, I'm confused, incest FTW

ok, i've got it now - yeah, your diagram is right.
Nobel Hobos
14-02-2007, 02:35
People are going to laugh at you if they know, and a blood relative would be a really bad choice for a breeding partner, but romance and sex ... why not?

Hell, date your own father for all care.
Smunkeeville
14-02-2007, 02:38
Wait, that's difeerent from Smunkee's....

only half of mine showed up for some reason, I think I saved it wrong........
The Vuhifellian States
14-02-2007, 02:39
I wouldn't, but the opposite of what I say always occurs, so maybe...
New Xero Seven
14-02-2007, 02:41
Thaz jussss naaaaasty yo! :eek:
Free Soviets
14-02-2007, 02:43
Thaz jussss naaaaasty yo! :eek:

oh come on, you know your cousin is hawt
The Brevious
14-02-2007, 07:15
The most important question is of course, how hot are they?


Edit: and if they can time warp well

You should ask Verdigroth.
The Scandinvans
14-02-2007, 07:17
Firstly: DO THE TIME WARP!

Secondly: They should do it realizing that any children they may have have the chance of having a birth defect.You mean just as much risk as a mother having a child after 40.
Soviestan
14-02-2007, 07:18
its fine with me.
Free Soviets
14-02-2007, 07:26
You mean just as much risk as a mother having a child after 40.

less than that, assuming there hasn't been a significant run of inbreeding before too
The Infinite Dunes
14-02-2007, 10:24
Meh, I don't have a problem it. I wouldn't do it personally, but then, in general, children do not grow up to find the people they grew up with attractive - whether they are blood related or not.

TO those who condem it on the ground of increased risk of congenital defects - it is only higher if such a gene is present already. Incest does not magically create genetic conditions. If you want to ban first cousin marriage then you should probably look into banning marriage between people with a genetic disease and carriers of the same genetic disease (eg. banning a guy with hemophila from marrying a girl who carries the gene for hemophila - there is avery high percentage that their children will have hemophila [50% - for both boys and girls]).

No way.

You know, I'm not one to bemoan "traditional values," but kids these days support legalization of necrophilia and incest and child rape. WTF is wrong with people?You equate first cousin marriage to child rape? I think you need to take a long deep look at your priorities.
Cromotar
14-02-2007, 15:24
I voted the first option, but then I don't have any first cousins so I don't really get the 'ick' factor. Genetically, cousins share a rather small percentage of common genes, which makes the risk of genetic disorders relatively small.

It's legal for cousins to marry here, btw.
Ifreann
14-02-2007, 15:30
None of my first cousins are hot, to my knowledge.
Kiryu-shi
14-02-2007, 16:34
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j163/otnekstem/incest.jpg

A part of my family tree in the 1800s....:eek:

=is marriage, -is child.
Dinaverg
14-02-2007, 16:38
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j163/otnekstem/incest.jpg

A part of my family tree in the 1800s....:eek:

=is marriage, -is child.

...That would explain a lot, actually...
Kiryu-shi
14-02-2007, 16:43
...That would explain a lot, actually...

Wait.... was that insulting, sarcastic, or genuine???
The Infinite Dunes
14-02-2007, 17:20
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j163/otnekstem/incest.jpg

A part of my family tree in the 1800s....:eek:

=is marriage, -is child.Eww, that's nasty... *is a hypocrite...* But then I've always had a problem with people having relationships with people not in their generation. It might have something to do with my dad being 13 years older than my mum (and closer in age to my mum's mum, than my mum), and that his current girlfriend is closer in age to me than to him. The age gap is so big there that it doesn't even bear thinking about. I mean.. there's about 25 years difference in age between by dad's youngest child and his oldest child... it's just so wrong.
Socialist Pyrates
14-02-2007, 17:27
It won't be acceptable; like it or not, our society doesn't look particularly kindly on people having sex with their blood relatives. You're probably going to run in to some problems if word gets around.


you speak for "our society"?...I have no problem with it


Me? Personally, I don't care. It's not the wisest thing socially, and there are some mental and biological problems associated with inbreeding, but if you're not hurting anyone I don't think it's particularly a problem. Go for it, but know the possible consequences.

socially it's not an issue the exception being those people who have a problem with minding their own business...

"mental and biological problems"...insignificant actually for healthy couples with no genetic weaknesses...we all evolved from isolated hunter gatherer groups of 30 or less so inbreeding was unavoidable and normal... and has done little or no harm...
Sel Appa
14-02-2007, 18:34
you speak for "our society"?...I have no problem with it




socially it's not an issue the exception being those people who have a problem with minding their own business...

"mental and biological problems"...insignificant actually for healthy couples with no genetic weaknesses...we all evolved from isolated hunter gatherer groups of 30 or less so inbreeding was unavoidable and normal... and has done little or no harm...

Maybe that inbreeding risk thing was a rumor created to stop it from happening...
Dinaverg
14-02-2007, 18:54
Wait.... was that insulting, sarcastic, or genuine???

I like to keep the mystery alive.
Socialist Pyrates
14-02-2007, 18:56
Maybe that inbreeding risk thing was a rumor created to stop it from happening...

most likely...I recall reading a report on siblings interbreeding and it found abnormalities barely above the general population, that would change if there was a shared genetic abnormality of course...so any mental problems would have to separated into two groups...physical genetic brain abnormalities and psychological problems resulting from deviating from the social norm..
The Plutonian Empire
14-02-2007, 19:43
I was thinking about this today. What if two first-cousins liked each other enough to officially date and all that fun stuff. Would it be acceptable to you? Would you do it? Blood is too close? I'm thinking if they don't get "down and dirty", it would be fine. I have no first cousins aronud my age btw...

Poll Ahoy!
I'd do it, but my cousins' wouldn't. :(

*cries like a pathetic little emo loser*
Johnny B Goode
14-02-2007, 20:12
I was thinking about this today. What if two first-cousins liked each other enough to officially date and all that fun stuff. Would it be acceptable to you? Would you do it? Blood is too close? I'm thinking if they don't get "down and dirty", it would be fine. I have no first cousins aronud my age btw...

Poll Ahoy!

Hell no. Even if I had no issues, my cousins don't like me, and I don't like them.
Gun Manufacturers
14-02-2007, 20:34
I'm the proud descendant of cousin loving. Although I wouldn't do it meself.

In my family, the kid of an aunt/nephew marriage married the nephew/father's sister's kid. :eek:


Aren't you a Mets fan? :eek:



Yes, I went there. :D