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First they banned toy guns, then dodgeball, now even tag is forbidden. Soon American kids will be wrapped in styrofoam and fitted with headsets that play encouraging compliments to them from birth until they're 18 so they don't end up getting bumps, scrapes, or low self esteem. Upon meeting the real world they'll run away bawling and hide in mommy and daddy's house. http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0212notag0208.html

Very stupid. I really am against the "safety" culture that is growing in Britain and the US. You shouldn't shield kid's from a few scrapes and bruises, neither should you pamper them and never let anyone say any bad words to them.

It's from these experiences that children learn and grow, mentally and physically. If this continues the human race will be frail as twigs.

How to Hamstring our own competitiveness in coming decades. Don't teach kids to compete.

Sad. Just plain sad.

I'm sure these kids will just wait until after school to get into games where the only rule is "It isn't a foul unless there's blood". How many people here actually played the really fun games at recess anyway?

I remember how upset we all were when they stopped us (my friends(I don't realy like contact sports)) playing British Bulldog during our breaks.

I think schools really care less about making a "man" out of a kid or not, but really care about liability. In the age where people can and will sue for anything, the schools are really just taking steps to cover their ass.

I feel sorry for the kids. I mean Tag and games like Bulldog and dodgeball are great! Soon all contac sports and games will be cancelled...:(

I think schools really care less about making a "man" out of a kid or not, but really care about liability. In the age where people can and will sue for anything, the schools are really just taking steps to cover their ass.

So very true. It's absolutely ridiculous. The phrase, "I'll sue" seems to be so ingrained into our culture nowadays.

So very true. It's absolutely ridiculous. The phrase, "I'll sue" seems to be so ingrained into our culture nowadays.

Im suing you! On the grounds of agreeing with me. It ruined how I felt about myself, and now I am feeling mental anguish, and need pills or i'll kill myself.. Oh I think a quarter million will due ;)

I mean it can be alright when they provide alternative games. Such as Tag Rugby. Essentially the same as Rugby, except you tackle someone by touching them on the hips with both hands. Great game. You got to run about and play and have a good time. Injuries still happened, but at least there was nothing major, like shattered ribs.

First they banned toy guns, then dodgeball, now even tag is forbidden. Soon American kids will be wrapped in styrofoam and fitted with headsets that play encouraging compliments to them from birth until they're 18 so they don't end up getting bumps, scrapes, or low self esteem. Upon meeting the real world they'll run away bawling and hide in mommy and daddy's house. http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0212notag0208.html
The "pussy" is a feature with tremendous durability and strength. It is highly adaptive and extremely responsive to new situations. It is able to withstand considerable stress and trauma, yet recover with amazing speed. The pussy is also home to the only human organ that exists for no purpose other than pleasure.

Given all of the above, exactly why is "pussification" a bad thing? And how, exactly, would your cited complaints be examples of "pussification"?

If you are lamenting the way that human children are increasingly encouraged to be fragile and tender, and to scream in pain at relatively little provocation, then wouldn't that be more aptly referred to as the "ballsification" of America's youth?

Im suing you! On the grounds of agreeing with me. It ruined how I felt about myself, and now I am feeling mental anguish, and need pills or i'll kill myself.. Oh I think a quarter million will due ;)

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Done last year in Attleboro, MA (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/10/18/attleboro_elementary_school_bans_tag/).

I mean it can be alright when they provide alternative games. Such as Tag Rugby. Essentially the same as Rugby, except you tackle someone by touching them on the hips with both hands. Great game. You got to run about and play and have a good time. Injuries still happened, but at least there was nothing major, like shattered ribs.

Gah, fuck tag rugby. A boring bastardisation of rugby suitable only for preschoolers and people who havent played before. I was so annoyed with having to play that at school term after term.

Gah, fuck tag rugby. A boring bastardisation of rugby suitable only for preschoolers and people who havent played before. I was so annoyed with having to play that at school term after term.

Yes I can see your point totally. I'm not saying that you ought to replace real rugby with tag rugby. Just provide the alternative. But don't ban the whole thing altogether.

I mean it can be alright when they provide alternative games. Such as Tag Rugby. Essentially the same as Rugby, except you tackle someone by touching them on the hips with both hands. Great game. You got to run about and play and have a good time. Injuries still happened, but at least there was nothing major, like shattered ribs.

Wuss. :p

Wuss. :p

Yes, yes I was. I was not exactly a strongly-built kid back in the day.

The "pussy" is a feature with tremendous durability and strength. It is highly adaptive and extremely responsive to new situations. It is able to withstand considerable stress and trauma, yet recover with amazing speed. The pussy is also home to the only human organ that exists for no purpose other than pleasure.

Given all of the above, exactly why is "pussification" a bad thing? And how, exactly, would your cited complaints be examples of "pussification"?

If you are lamenting the way that human children are increasingly encouraged to be fragile and tender, and to scream in pain at relatively little provocation, then wouldn't that be more aptly referred to as the "ballsification" of America's youth?

You totally just won the thread. And I'm not just saying that because I was going to make a similar point about the thread title.

In grade school they wouldn't let us arm wrestle because they were afraid we'd break each other's arms.

Pansies.

Yes, yes I was. I was not exactly a strongly-built kid back in the day.

Neither was I. Still aren't. But I played real rugby anyway.

Neither was I. Still aren't. But I played real rugby anyway.

I hail your obvious superiority.

The "pussy" is a feature with tremendous durability and strength. It is highly adaptive and extremely responsive to new situations. It is able to withstand considerable stress and trauma, yet recover with amazing speed. The pussy is also home to the only human organ that exists for no purpose other than pleasure.

Given all of the above, exactly why is "pussification" a bad thing? And how, exactly, would your cited complaints be examples of "pussification"?

If you are lamenting the way that human children are increasingly encouraged to be fragile and tender, and to scream in pain at relatively little provocation, then wouldn't that be more aptly referred to as the "ballsification" of America's youth?

Balls produce testosterone which increases upper body strength, aggression, and the ability to keep fighting despite pain. America needs more balls. More brains too, but that's for another thread.

You shouldn't shield kid's from a few scrapes and bruises, neither should you pamper them and never let anyone say any bad words to them.

It's from these experiences that children learn and grow, mentally and physically.

Indeed.

And as Zilam said, the heart of the problem is people being encouraged to sue over just about anything. When I go to the UK, there are constantly adverts on TV with smiling people telling us they've won thousands of pounds sueing after tripping over themselves at their workplace. My mother was once approached by someone in the street in England asking her whether there was anything she'd like to sue about, and encouraging her to try to think of something. Insane.

I hail your obvious superiority.

As well you should. :p

You totally just won the thread. And I'm not just saying that because I was going to make a similar point about the thread title.
:D

Very Heterosexual Manly Men like to talk shit about the pussy, but I'm guessing it's just a lot of personal insecurity about how delicate their own genitals are. I mean, a guy's genitals can't handle being hit by a football; a woman's genitals can handle DELIVERING a football.

Indeed.

And as Zilam said, the heart of the problem is people being encouraged to sue over just about anything. When I go to the UK, there are constantly adverts on TV with smiling people telling us they've won thousands of pounds sueing after tripping over themselves at their workplace. My mother was once approached by someone in the street in England asking her whether there was anything she'd like to sue about, and encouraging her to try to think of something. Insane.

I hate the compenstation culture. Don't think all Brits will sue you at the drop of hat. mostly its just 'chavs'.

Indeed.

And as Zilam said, the heart of the problem is people being encouraged to sue over just about anything. When I go to the UK, there are constantly adverts on TV with smiling people telling us they've won thousands of pounds sueing after tripping over themselves at their workplace. My mother was once approached by someone in the street in England asking her whether there was anything she'd like to sue about, and encouraging her to try to think of something. Insane.

Exactly. I think we really need to look into the UK libel laws among other things. There are certainly matters which you should be able to sue over, like industrial accidents where it is without a doubt the fault of your employer, and obvious sexual harassment. But sueing over such trivial things that in the past could easily be sorted out just by talking things over with the other person etc. Just silly.

You totally just won the thread. And I'm not just saying that because I was going to make a similar point about the thread title.

Did the term 'pussycat' never enter your or Bottle's lexicon?

:rolleyes:

Balls produce testosterone which increases upper body strength, aggression, and the ability to keep fighting despite pain. America needs more balls. More brains too, but that's for another thread.
You didn't answer my question.

You didn't answer my question.

Why I complained about "pussyfication"? Because pussy is commonly used in our language as an insult implying being weak and scared.

Neither was I. Still aren't. But I played real rugby anyway.
What position?

What position?

Doggy.

Doggy.
Good for you.

My original question still stands.

:D

Very Heterosexual Manly Men like to talk shit about the pussy, but I'm guessing it's just a lot of personal insecurity about how delicate their own genitals are. I mean, a guy's genitals can't handle being hit by a football; a woman's genitals can handle DELIVERING a football.

Um, I'm a heterosexual manly man, almost stereotypically so. I'm big, hairy, muscular, drink hard liquor, like fast cars and gorgeous women, etc. I just don't think of weakness when I think of feminine anatomy or other qualities associated with femininity.

Props on the football comparison though. You really are on a roll today, Bottle.

Why I complained about "pussyfication"? Because pussy is commonly used in our language as an insult implying being weak and scared.
So doing what other people do, regardless of whether or not it is correct or grounded in reality, is an example of being a "non-pussy"?

Meh. Where I come from, being tough requires that you not meekly follow along with every stupid trend just because it's what the other kids are doing.

So doing what other people do, regardless of whether or not it is correct or grounded in reality, is an example of being a "non-pussy"?

Meh. Where I come from, being tough requires that you not meekly follow along with every stupid trend just because it's what the other kids are doing.

Pardon me for using the English language.

Did the term 'pussycat' never enter your or Bottle's lexicon?

:rolleyes:
A pussycat is a person who is not at all threatening.

The OP has specified that he was using the word "pussy." He defines this as meaning "being weak and scared," though pussy is most commonly used as either an insulting term for a woman or for a man who is weak, timid, or unmanly. This is because much of modern slang revolves around the notion that women are weak and being a woman is a very bad thing. It is supposedly an insult to call somebody a "woman" for this very reason.

I'm simply pointing out how transparent and silly such language is. The female body tends to have a higher pain threshold than the male body. The female body is more durable and tends to survive longer and endure more physiological stress than the male body. The female sex organs are far more resilient and strong than the male sex organs. These are simply biological realities (though, granted, they are only over-all trends, and may not be true in individual cases). For this reason, I find it humorous when ignorant/insecure individuals reference femaleness or female body parts as indicative of weakness.

And, with that, you may now return to your Very Heterosexual Manly Man comments on how "pussy" it is for an individual to reduce the frequency with which their body is injured. I'm sure Natural Selection is listening very closely...:D

Attention! The thread has been hijacked! Everybody keep calm and you'll be okay!

A pussycat is a person who is not at all threatening.

The OP has specified that he was using the word "pussy." He defines this as meaning "being weak and scared," though pussy is most commonly used as either an insulting term for a woman or for a man who is weak, timid, or unmanly.

I've heard it used to insult guys. I don't think I've ever heard it used to insult a woman. Women are supposed to be weak and frightened. That's why you need a big, strong man around to protect you and provide for you. :p

Pardon me for using the English language.
Hey, I don't particularly mind if you want to come off as insecure. No need to ask my pardon. :D

Hey, I don't particularly mind if you want to come off as insecure. No need to ask my pardon. :D

I wasn't actually begging your pardon. I don't apologize. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am.

You do realise that the etymology of the word relates more to cat than vagina. Also that the word referes to women (or effeminate men) as a term of endearment and not vagina for several centuries?

Pussy in the way it was used in the title refers to weak. It has nothing to do with vagina. Of course it does now because yet again ignorance strikes and it has become the word that bottle and hotrodia are so against.

ironic really.

One of the reasons for banning given is squabbles and injuries as the game turns more violent. So that merits a ban? No - you teach the kids how to behave, you don't ban a game just because people are using it as an excuse to deliberately harm other people. That's like banning religion because some people use it as an excuse to harm other people.

a guy's genitals can't handle being hit by a football; a woman's genitals can handle DELIVERING a football.

Not at the same velocity though...

You do realise that the etymology of the word relates more to cat than vagina. Also that the word referes to women (or effeminate men) as a term of endearment and not vagina for several centuries?

Pussy in the way it was used in the title refers to weak. It has nothing to do with vagina. Of course it does now because yet again ignorance strikes and it has become the word that bottle and hotrodia are so against.

ironic really.

*shrug* I have nothing against the word itself, any more than I have anything against the word "bitch". They're perfectly legitimate terms in themselves. I just dislike a particular usage such words commonly suffer from. It's not the sounds we make that are the problem, but the degradation we use them for.

Oh gods. Someone make a thread on stupid gender based insults and take all this crap with it. Then you can discuss pussies, balls, dickheads etc to your hearts delight without messing up this thread.

Um, I'm a heterosexual manly man, almost stereotypically so. I'm big, hairy, muscular, drink hard liquor, like fast cars and gorgeous women, etc. I just don't think of weakness when I think of feminine anatomy or other qualities associated with femininity.

The capitalization was to indicate the individual's membership in a very special club. There are a great many heterosexual men who can grasp that being manly does not require belief in girl cooties. I'm glad to hear you're one of them!

:D

Very Heterosexual Manly Men like to talk shit about the pussy, but I'm guessing it's just a lot of personal insecurity about how delicate their own genitals are. I mean, a guy's genitals can't handle being hit by a football; a woman's genitals can handle DELIVERING a football.

Not at the same velocity though...

GAWD! I hope not! :eek:


What position?

Hooker. [insert juvenile joke here :rolleyes: ]

I've heard it used to insult guys. I don't think I've ever heard it used to insult a woman. Women are supposed to be weak and frightened. That's why you need a big, strong man around to protect you and provide for you. :p
Yeah, but all the big strong men are busy hitting each other with two-by-fours to prove how giant their testicles are. Leaving nobody around to open my jars and moosh spiders for my delicate, feminine self. :(

Yeah, but all the big strong men are busy hitting each other with two-by-fours to prove how giant their testicles are. Leaving nobody around to open my jars and moosh spiders for my delicate, feminine self. :(

Evolution is a funny thing. Back in the day you'd want the dude who could swing a 2X4 hard. He'd be more likely to bring food back to the cave for you and your kids without dying. Now that's not so much of a concern.

You do realise that the etymology of the word relates more to cat than vagina. Also that the word referes to women (or effeminate men) as a term of endearment and not vagina for several centuries?

Actually, I realize that all of the above is simply false. But that's because I've looked it up. :D

"Pussy" as the slang we know today is directly and specifically linked to the female sex organs, and to the implication that females are weak. "Pussycat," as I have already stated, is a term with a different meaning. The use of "pussy" to refer to a vagina derived from "pussycat," but the use of "pussy" to refer to "weak and unmanly" derived from THAT.

Complicated, no? Good thing there are people like me around, who enjoy researching the origins of slang and curse words! (Yay for liberal arts education!)


Of course it does now because yet again ignorance strikes and it has become the word that bottle and hotrodia are so against.

ironic really.
You know, if you're going to start lecturing on word-usage, it would probably be best not to close by misusing the most frequently misused word in the English language. :D

*shrug* I have nothing against the word itself, any more than I have anything against the word "bitch". They're perfectly legitimate terms in themselves. I just dislike a particular usage such words commonly suffer from. It's not the sounds we make that are the problem, but the degradation we use them for.

So you actually disagree with Bottles post that you quoted...

fair enough.

I was nearly killed by a game of "Smear the Queer" that was happening on the playground in elementary school, I was playing tetherball with someone and the person who was "the queer" slammed into me. I blacked out.

I am all the better for it. People need to realize that these games give a kid some spine, and depansifies them.

So you actually disagree with Bottles post that you quoted...

fair enough.

I don't, actually. I just took a different tack in my response to you, because I'm too lazy to look up the etymology like Bottle did.

I'm not sure you're understanding the distinction between a word as sound and a word as used to be degrading that I'm implying. Words do not cause harm, from my perspective. It's the unhealthy thinking behind the inappropriate usage of them that does cause harm.

Actually, I realize that all of the above is simply false. But that's because I've looked it up. :D

"Pussy" as the slang we know today is directly and specifically linked to the female sex organs, and to the implication that females are weak. "Pussycat," as I have already stated, is a term with a different meaning. The use of "pussy" to refer to a vagina derived from "pussycat," but the use of "pussy" to refer to "weak and unmanly" derived from THAT.

Complicated, no? Good thing there are people like me around, who enjoy researching the origins of slang and curse words! (Yay for liberal arts education!)


You know, if you're going to start lecturing on word-usage, it would probably be best not to close by misusing the most frequently misused word in the English language. :D

Looks to me like your education in liberal arts was pretty pants.

pussy (1)
"cat," 1726, dim. of puss (1), also used of a rabbit (1715). As a term of endearment for a girl or woman, from 1583 (also used of effeminate men). Pussy willow is from 1869, on notion of "soft and furry;" pussyfoot (v.) is from 1903, originally the nickname of stealthy Oklahoma prohibition agent W.E. Johnson (1862-1945).

Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper
Online Etymology Dictionary - Cite This Source
pussy (2)
slang for "****," 1879, but probably older; perhaps from O.N. puss "pocket, pouch" (cf. Low Ger. puse "vulva"), but perhaps instead from the cat word (see pussy (1)) on notion of "soft, warm, furry thing;" cf. Fr. le chat, which also has a double meaning, feline and genital. Earlier uses are difficult to distinguish from pussy (1), e.g.:

"The word pussie is now used of a woman" [Philip Stubbes, "The Anatomie of Abuses," 1583]

But the use of pussy as a term of endearment argues against the vaginal sense being generally known before late 19c., e.g.:

" 'What do you think, pussy?' said her father to Eva." [Harriet Beecher Stowe, "Uncle Tom's Cabin," 1852]

Pussy-whipped first attested 1956.

Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper

I don't, actually. I just took a different tack in my response to you, because I'm too lazy to look up the etymology like Bottle did.

I'm not sure you're understanding the distinction between a word as sound and a word as used to be degrading that I'm implying. Words do not cause harm, from my perspective. It's the unhealthy thinking behind the inappropriate usage of them that does cause harm.

LOL

Hooker. [insert juvenile joke here :rolleyes: ]
I occasionaly played that position in the few games I was involved in. I have long hair and as a resault got teased by my friends :(.

I occasionaly played that position in the few games I was involved in. I have long hair and as a resault got teased by my friends :(.

I played that or wing, most often hooker, though, becaused I'd played a lot of football (soccer) and had fast feet. I'm too small (at the time, I was 5'10" and 165 lbs.) to be anything other than a hooker in the scrum.

Very stupid. I really am against the "safety" culture that is growing in Britain and the US. You shouldn't shield kid's from a few scrapes and bruises, neither should you pamper them and never let anyone say any bad words to them.

It's from these experiences that children learn and grow, mentally and physically. If this continues the human race will be frail as twigs.or just those in Britain and the US. :p

If you are lamenting the way that human children are increasingly encouraged to be fragile and tender, and to scream in pain at relatively little provocation, then wouldn't that be more aptly referred to as the "ballsification" of America's youth?

Best. Post. Ever.

The "pussy" is a feature with tremendous durability and strength. It is highly adaptive and extremely responsive to new situations. It is able to withstand considerable stress and trauma, yet recover with amazing speed. The pussy is also home to the only human organ that exists for no purpose other than pleasure.

Given all of the above, exactly why is "pussification" a bad thing? And how, exactly, would your cited complaints be examples of "pussification"?

If you are lamenting the way that human children are increasingly encouraged to be fragile and tender, and to scream in pain at relatively little provocation, then wouldn't that be more aptly referred to as the "ballsification" of America's youth?

I think "fragile and tender" would equate to the hymen, if I am not mistaken? ;)