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Dune: Theres a planet (Iraqus) with a substance called "spice" in which a futuristic human race needs to maintain economical balance. Without it "civilization would fall" due to the amount of self interest that all the leaders have stated by Paul Atraties father. The other name for the planet sounds like Iraq but with the 'ous' at the end removed. The Harkenon stop spice shipments with military force thus forcing the emperor to send the Atraties to deal with it.

Iraq: Has most of the oil in the world in which modern man needs to maintain the economy due to our dependence on oil. Without it we are back in the stone ages unless alternate fuels are found. War starts, prices soar.

LOL I know its a longshot but the few similarities make me chuckle. :p

There was a book before there was a movie. And the idea of people fighting over natural resources really isn't all that unusual.

Dune: Theres a planet (Iraqus) with a substance called "spice" in which a futuristic human race needs to maintain economical balance. Without it "civilization would fall" due to the amount of self interest that all the leaders have stated by Paul Atraties father. The other name for the planet sounds like Iraq but with the 'ous' at the end removed. The Harkenon stop spice shipments with military force thus forcing the emperor to send the Atraties to deal with it.

Iraq: Has most of the oil in the world in which modern man needs to maintain the economy due to our dependence on oil. Without it we are back in the stone ages unless alternate fuels are found. War starts, prices soar.

LOL I know its a longshot but the few similarities make me chuckle. :pso.. I guess the freemen are the Insurgents.

There was a book before there was a movie. And the idea of people fighting over natural resources really isn't all that unusual.

I guess if the planet is called Iraqus then it's a weird similarity. Otherwise...it wouldn't be too unusual.

Problem was, I thought the Fremen were a bunch of backward scum that deserved to be wiped out, unlike the Iraqis. And I thought the spice must flow and was an ardent supporter of Shaddam IV.

I also supported the Trade Federation during the occupation of Naboo.

so.. I guess the freemen are the Insurgents.

No, in the book/movie the freemen were patriots who wanted to rule their own land justly. The insurgents in Iraq commit war crimes against their own people. Plus the name Iraqus and the nation Iraq sound similar, and both are desert areas.

Dune: Theres a planet (Iraqus) with a substance called "spice" in which a futuristic human race needs to maintain economical balance. Without it "civilization would fall" due to the amount of self interest that all the leaders have stated by Paul Atraties father. The other name for the planet sounds like Iraq but with the 'ous' at the end removed. The Harkenon stop spice shipments with military force thus forcing the emperor to send the Atraties to deal with it.

Iraq: Has most of the oil in the world in which modern man needs to maintain the economy due to our dependence on oil. Without it we are back in the stone ages unless alternate fuels are found. War starts, prices soar.

LOL I know its a longshot but the few similarities make me chuckle. :p

Amusingly enough, the Emperor of the first Dune book was named Shaddam IV.

Also, a sort of Neo-Islam/Neo-Christianity played a significant role in the book, in the form of the Fremen and the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood, respectively.

Dune(the book) is awesome, one the best Sci-Fi novels ever imo.

And spice could very easily be compared to oil, Spice was an essential resource to transport goods and people throughout the galaxy. The planets in Dune are very far away, ships traveling between them use an engine called a Holtzmann drive, which folds space at a quantum level. Trouble is, you need someone who can navigate through this quantum sprint and it is impossible for any human to have reactions quick enough to suffice, navigators need to be prescient which requires Spice.


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BTW: its Arrakis, from the arabic Ar-rakis which means "the dancer"

Uh, the planet is Arrakis, not Iraqous.

Problem was, I thought the Fremen were a bunch of backward scum that deserved to be wiped out, unlike the Iraqis. And I thought the spice must flow and was an ardent supporter of Shaddam IV.

I also supported the Trade Federation during the occupation of Naboo.

Damn you and your rapid posting skills. :mad:

so.. I guess the freemen are the Insurgents.

http://www.aeriesguard.com/dune/images/fremenicon2.jpg

so who are the houses

Amusingly enough, the Emperor of the first Dune book was named Shaddam IV.

Also, a sort of Neo-Islam/Neo-Christianity played a significant role in the book, in the form of the Fremen and the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood, respectively.

How are the Bene Gesserit neo-christian? Only thing closely similar would be comparing the Kwisatz Haderach to Jesus, but other than that...

so who are the houses

Imperialistic power who want resources and wealth of course.

All I know is Sting must die.
http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/dvd/dvd-dune-sting.jpg

:(

All I know is Sting must die.
http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/dvd/dvd-dune-sting.jpg

:(

His death in the original was better. :D With his chest exploding from Paul's psionic attack.

Problem was, I thought the Fremen were a bunch of backward scum that deserved to be wiped out, unlike the Iraqis. And I thought the spice must flow and was an ardent supporter of Shaddam IV.

I also supported the Trade Federation during the occupation of Naboo. I sided with the freemen. backward or not.. It was their Land.

http://duneii.com/images/units/fremen.jpg

You know come to think of it I do seem to remember a quote of a muslim cleric saying something like "Long live the fighters" in regards to Jihadists so maybe there is something to it. I wonder then who the giant worm God-Emperor would be?

Amusingly enough, the Emperor of the first Dune book was named Shaddam IV.

Also, a sort of Neo-Islam/Neo-Christianity played a significant role in the book, in the form of the Fremen and the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood, respectively.
Actually, it was a mix of all religions, which used the Orange Catholic Bible and went by the name of Galactophasic Determinism.

Which is odd, considering I've never read any of the books... :p

(Thank you, Wiki)

so who are the housesthe house of Saud is the evil one.. backed by the emperor. ;)

So who would play the role of the Honored Matres and destroy Iraq?

His death in the original was better. :D With his chest exploding from Paul's psionic attack.

Feyd's death in the movie was still better than his death in the miniseries. It was Sting's best role, except maybe J.D. in Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels.


I know the movie doesn't really compare to the book, but, on its own, the movie was freakin' awesome.

http://www.ou.edu/class/FRINFO/GTA/EGO/Gifs/Personal/sandworm.gif

Be afraid when these things start attacking convoys out in the desert. ;)

Feyd's death in the movie was still better than his death in the miniseries. It was Sting's best role, except maybe J.D. in Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels.


I know the movie doesn't really compare to the book, but, on its own, the movie was freakin' awesome.

I hopr they still sell the RTS. :) WOOHOO!!! :mp5: *shots randomly in the air*

http://www.ou.edu/class/FRINFO/GTA/EGO/Gifs/Personal/sandworm.gif

Be afraid when these things start attacking convoys out in the desert. ;)

The ones in the new version of the movie look more realistic with the armored plates and all.

http://www.animationartist.com/2001/05_may/images/building/sandopener.jpg

If Iraq was Dune; then Saddam would probably be the Baron Harkonen. GWB would be the "voice from the outer world" the liberator who becomes a religious tyrant.

Dune was actually based on two Middle-eastern pieces of history, the first is Mohammad's exile and return to Mecca, the second was the tale of Lawrence of Arabia, the voice from the outer world who would bring "liberation" from foreign rule.

http://www.ou.edu/class/FRINFO/GTA/EGO/Gifs/Personal/sandworm.gif

Be afraid when these things start attacking convoys out in the desert. ;)

Don't worry, we'll come up with a new strategy to send more troops against the sandworms.

Don't worry, we'll come up with a new strategy to send more troops against the sandworms.

But without them there is no spice.

so whos hiding the Devastator

http://www.aeriesguard.com/dune/images/fremenicon2.jpg

You lose. This pic is not of Dune's Fremen but of the Mri, from the Faded Sun Trilogy.

/dorkish outrage

so whos hiding the Devastator

Those are the Harkenon equivalent of Overlord Tanks. :D
http://www.ccgeneralszh.kvalitne.cz/jednotky/cina/16.jpg

Problem was, I thought the Fremen were a bunch of backward scum that deserved to be wiped out, unlike the Iraqis. And I thought the spice must flow and was an ardent supporter of Shaddam IV.

I also supported the Trade Federation during the occupation of Naboo.

I supported Unification.

Those are the Harkenon equivalent of Overlord Tanks. :D
http://www.ccgeneralszh.kvalitne.cz/jednotky/cina/16.jpg

if they a immensely powerful nuclear-powered tank that self-destructs when in critical state or when ordered to
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/DuneII-devastator.jpg

then yes

You lose. This pic is not of Dune's Fremen but of the Mri, from the Faded Sun Trilogy.

/dorkish outrage

Specifically, it is the cover of the third book, The Faded Sun: Kutath

http://www.aeriesguard.com/dune/images/fremenicon2.jpg
You lose. This pic is not of Dune's Fremen but of the Mri, from the Faded Sun Trilogy.

/dorkish outrageinteresting

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=fremen

if they a immensely powerful nuclear-powered tank that self-destructs when in critical state or when ordered to
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/DuneII-devastator.jpg

then yes

It is, you can upgrade it to have a nuclear engine reactor, after that it goes faster and damages all units nearby when it dies. IT is powerful before the nuke upgrade, afterwards the cannon shells leave radiation behind after detonation.

I also supported the Trade Federation during the occupation of Naboo.

:eek: How dare you support those scumbags that took on my lovely queen, natalie portman. You will burn in the pits of Mustafar for that!

Barrack Obama is the Kwisatz Haderach.

:eek: How dare you support those scumbags that took on my lovely queen, natalie portman. You will burn in the pits of Mustafar for that!

I probably would've been cut down by Anakin if I were there anyways...

In the SW Universe I would have been a proud (and quite wealthy) Neimoidian financial advisor and assistant to Viceroy Gunray and Settlement Officen Haako. Cowardice, efficiency, and greed are my hallmarks...and I do enjoy a mechno-chair as much as anyone else. The Neimoidians had the right idea with that one.

I have to admit, the Theed Royal Palace would have made a nice residence for myself and my staff. I would've been smart and kept droidekas in the room with me rather than outside, though.

I probably would've been cut down by Anakin if I were there anyways...

In the SW Universe I would have been a proud (and quite wealthy) Neimoidian financial advisor and assistant to Viceroy Gunray and Settlement Officen Haako. Cowardice, efficiency, and greed are my hallmarks.

I have to admit, the Theed Royal Palace would have made a nice residence for myself and my staff.

that is a nice Royal Palace fact its nice city too

I probably would've been cut down by Anakin if I were there anyways...

In the SW Universe I would have been a proud (and quite wealthy) Neimoidian financial advisor and assistant to Viceroy Gunray and Settlement Officen Haako. Cowardice, efficiency, and greed are my hallmarks.

I have to admit, the Theed Royal Palace would have made a nice residence for myself and my staff.


Its okay, i'd probably have been cut down by anakin too, in the jedi temple. But yeah, that palace would have been a nice weekend retreat :)

that is a nice Royal Palace fact its nice city too

It is. Far nicer than Coruscant.

Its okay, i'd probably have been cut down by anakin too, in the jedi temple. But yeah, that palace would have been a nice weekend retreat :)

Neimoidians know the most luxurious dwellings when they see them.

interesting

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=fremen

very

http://www.ereader.com/files/products/000/00/27/68/cover/medium.jpg


sometime the creators of webpages just dont know their stuff.

*shrug*

It is. Far nicer than Coruscant.

i would not mind living there in between leading my troops then living on Coruscant

Its okay, i'd probably have been cut down by anakin too, in the jedi temple. But yeah, that palace would have been a nice weekend retreat :)

Anikin: *It is the end of you Jedi dog!

Zilam: I'm no Jedi, I'm just a tourist..

Anikin: Oh sorry...*runs into the hallway and decapitates kids*