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WOW!!! 5 Grammys...WTG Dixie Chicks!!

CanuckHeaven
12-02-2007, 14:44
Well done ladies!!

Record Of The Year

Album Of The Year

Song Of The Year (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwc5YSAc-7g)

Best Country Performance By A Duo Or Group With Vocal

Best Country Album

http://grammys.sympatico.msn.ca/Grammy+2007+Winners/Home/articles/Grammy2007Winners.htm?isfa=1
Gataway_Driver
12-02-2007, 15:09
hmmm I didn't think that it did THAT well in the US. Good on them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J-VceXqbOE

Live versions are all good;)
The Nazz
12-02-2007, 15:10
It's just more proof that the America-haters and liberals and secular-humanists have infected our society to an enormous degree. [/O'Reilly] ;)
Proggresica
12-02-2007, 15:23
lmao. About an hour or so ago on Fox & Friends they had some big thing about how "the Grammays have an agenda".
The Nazz
12-02-2007, 15:24
lmao. About an hour or so ago on Fox & Friends they had some big thing about how "the Grammays have an agenda".

Can't say I'm surprised.
German Nightmare
12-02-2007, 15:26
It's just more proof that the America-haters and liberals and secular-humanists have infected our society to an enormous degree. [/O'Reilly] ;)
If that's true, I can only hope for a late recovery. :p Or maybe make it chronical!
Andaluciae
12-02-2007, 15:36
Glad to see. I'm not the biggest fan of country, but the Dixie Chicks are pretty good, although they could have at least thought out an acceptance statement rather than the incomprehensible babbling they had on that stage--five times.
CanuckHeaven
12-02-2007, 15:37
It's just more proof that the America-haters and liberals and secular-humanists have infected our society to an enormous degree. [/O'Reilly] ;)
I think that the "America haters" are the ones that issued the death threats, and cultivated the hatred.
The Nazz
12-02-2007, 15:43
I think that the "America haters" are the ones that issued the death threats, and cultivated the hatred.

More drivel from the far left in this country, I see, calling true patriots who were expressing their rights to free speech by telling the Dixie Chicks that they didn't appreciate the Chicks harming the troops' morale and objectively supporting Osama Bin Laden and al Qaeda instead of the president put into office by God and the voters. [/O'Reilly]

I've got to stop doing that--it's starting to burn. ;)
Proggresica
12-02-2007, 15:47
More drivel from the far left in this country, I see, calling true patriots who were expressing their rights to free speech by telling the Dixie Chicks that they didn't appreciate the Chicks harming the troops' morale and objectively supporting Osama Bin Laden and al Qaeda instead of the president put into office by God and the voters. [/O'Reilly]

I've got to stop doing that--it's starting to burn. ;)

What is your phone number? Also, do you like falafel? [/O'Reilly]
German Nightmare
12-02-2007, 15:49
More drivel from the far left in this country, I see, calling true patriots who were expressing their rights to free speech by telling the Dixie Chicks that they didn't appreciate the Chicks harming the troops' morale and objectively supporting Osama Bin Laden and al Qaeda instead of the president put into office by God and the voters. [/O'Reilly]

I've got to stop doing that--it's starting to burn. ;)
That's just the fever accompanying the infection. http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/sick2.gif
CanuckHeaven
12-02-2007, 16:08
More drivel from the far left in this country, I see, calling true patriots who were expressing their rights to free speech by telling the Dixie Chicks that they didn't appreciate the Chicks harming the troops' morale and objectively supporting Osama Bin Laden and al Qaeda instead of the president put into office by God and the voters. [/O'Reilly]

I've got to stop doing that--it's starting to burn. ;)
So it is un-American to like the Dixie Chicks? Hmmm.

"True patriots" fought for repression of rights?

BTW, did O'Reilly really say this: "the president put into office by God and the voters"??????
Kanabia
12-02-2007, 16:17
"Hey! An academy award....awww, it's a Grammy..."

I don't put much stock in that silly award.
Khadgar
12-02-2007, 16:24
Wish they'd stay out of politics. I hate when my entertainers go political, then I can't just enjoy the show if I know how partisan they are.
The Nazz
12-02-2007, 16:39
Wish they'd stay out of politics. I hate when my entertainers go political, then I can't just enjoy the show if I know how partisan they are.

Well, for people who want their music controversy free, there's always American Idol, I suppose.
Khadgar
12-02-2007, 16:51
Well, for people who want their music controversy free, there's always American Idol, I suppose.

American Idiocy, can't say I've ever watched it.
The Nazz
12-02-2007, 17:01
American Idiocy, can't say I've ever watched it.

Fine. There's plenty of other milque-toasty, controversy-free "music" out there. Have at it. I like the fact that the Dixie Chicks cared enough about an issue to take a stand on it--not the original statement; that was probably just a one-off. No, the way they responded when they found themselves at the center of a completely manufactured shitstorm. They didn't back down, they didn't check into rehab or make tearful apologies in hopes of restoring their fan base. They came out and blasted everyone with their best album yet. I admire that.
CanuckHeaven
12-02-2007, 17:21
They didn't back down, they didn't check into rehab or make tearful apologies in hopes of restoring their fan base. They came out and blasted everyone with their best album yet. I admire that.
Takes courage and yeah....I admire their courage!!
Allegheny County 2
12-02-2007, 17:22
Wish they'd stay out of politics. I hate when my entertainers go political, then I can't just enjoy the show if I know how partisan they are.

I have to agree with that.

Oh and well done Dixie Chicks.
The Nazz
12-02-2007, 17:50
too bad they cant get played on country radio.

i have 4 country stations preset on my car radio and i dont remember the last time they played any dixie chicks song.

Country music stations blacklisted them. Assholes.
Ashmoria
12-02-2007, 17:51
too bad they cant get played on country radio.

i have 4 country stations preset on my car radio and i dont remember the last time they played any dixie chicks song.
CanuckHeaven
12-02-2007, 18:01
Country music stations blacklisted them. Assholes.
I guess if they get "blacklisted", then they don't exist and if they don't exist, then they can't win Grammys?
Ashmoria
12-02-2007, 18:22
Country music stations blacklisted them. Assholes.

im of two minds about it

assholes

and, responsive to their assholish listenership. any station that played anyting from this album got flooded with calls protesting and saying that they would never listen to the station again if they didnt stop. country radio prides itself on listening to the fans.


i hate it so much.
Poliwanacraca
12-02-2007, 18:36
Well, for people who want their music controversy free, there's always American Idol, I suppose.

I'm not sure that qualifies as "music." ;)

As for the Dixie Chicks - I'm not a particular fan of country music, so I wasn't acquainted with the album in question before the show last night, but their performance was impressive enough to convince me that they probably deserved every award they were getting. Congrats to them.
Kanabia
12-02-2007, 18:40
Oh, dear. I just looked through the list, and it's not like they had much competition.

I mean, i'm hard pressed to give credibility to any award ceremony that sees James Blunt nominated for record of the year, song of the year, best new artist, best male vocal performance, best pop vocal album....(I stopped reading after that point).

I'm glad I manage to avoid most popular music. :) :p

(not that i'm dissing the Dixie Chicks in particular, I don't really know their music)
Isidoor
12-02-2007, 18:46
i don't really like their music and i don't care about the grammys.
and why is it so special that they are against the war? i heard that there was quite an outrage over that, but i don't know why. there are a lot of anti-war songs, and don't you americans value freedom of speech that much?
Ashmoria
12-02-2007, 18:59
i don't really like their music and i don't care about the grammys.
and why is it so special that they are against the war? i heard that there was quite an outrage over that, but i don't know why. there are a lot of anti-war songs, and don't you americans value freedom of speech that much?

they dissed the president when they were on tour in the UK.

country music fans tend to be extremely patriotic and this was at the time when we were building up to the war in iraq and everyone still kinda liked president bush.
East Nhovistrana
12-02-2007, 19:01
I don't care about their politics, they just suck.
Sylvanwold
12-02-2007, 19:10
i don't really like their music and i don't care about the grammys.
and why is it so special that they are against the war? i heard that there was quite an outrage over that, but i don't know why. there are a lot of anti-war songs, and don't you americans value freedom of speech that much?

Sadly, a goodly percentage of Americans only believe in "freedom of speech" if you agree with their position; "freedom of religion" if it's their religion; "freedom of assembly" if it's in support of their side of a cause and a "free press" if it propagates their beliefs and covers up the sins of their politicians.

The Dixie Chicks came out against the war at the very beginning when very few took that stand so publically. They did it as Texans,(which is sort of a special sub-culture in itself) speaking against a fellow (sort of) Texan president. The right-wing media screamers immediately mounted a campaign against them and mobilized the embargo against their music. Its the McCarthyism of our time. To their credit, they have weathered the storm, held to their stand, and more and more of the country is coming around to their thinking. They also, appearantly, are damn fine musicians.
Gauthier
12-02-2007, 21:44
First the fall elections, then the Dixie Chicks grabbing 5 Grammies.

It's like the Seven Seals starting for Neocons and Busheviks.

I can only hope that someone with brains gets into the White House and cleans out the shit-filled monkey cage that Il Douche turned the Oval Office into.
Good Lifes
12-02-2007, 22:10
Sadly, a goodly percentage of Americans only believe in "freedom of speech" if you agree with their position; "freedom of religion" if it's their religion; "freedom of assembly" if it's in support of their side of a cause and a "free press" if it propagates their beliefs and covers up the sins of their politicians.

The Dixie Chicks came out against the war at the very beginning when very few took that stand so publically. They did it as Texans,(which is sort of a special sub-culture in itself) speaking against a fellow (sort of) Texan president. The right-wing media screamers immediately mounted a campaign against them and mobilized the embargo against their music. Its the McCarthyism of our time. To their credit, they have weathered the storm, held to their stand, and more and more of the country is coming around to their thinking. They also, appearantly, are damn fine musicians.

Amen.

And I would add that I was ashamed of GW for pushing for war with no evidence at the time. And I'm even more ashamed that the citizens of the US would vote for someone they knew was incompetent. Shame on that 20% that voted to reelect then a month later told pollsters they had no confidence in him. And even more shame on the 30% that voted for him then a month later said the country was going in the wrong direction. I am sorry and ashamed that you share the honorable title of "American".

I wish I had the notoriety of the Dixie Chicks so I could get these people to blacklist me also. It would be an honor to be on such a list.
Johnny B Goode
12-02-2007, 22:10
Well, for people who want their music controversy free, there's always American Idol, I suppose.

That's show's shit. Why do people want to go up on TV and get told they suck by an asshole with a British accent?
Gauthier
12-02-2007, 22:11
The only thing that could have made the acceptance speech better was if the Dixie Chicks each had a magnesium baseball bat and got to swing them at Toby Keith's groin.

Repeatedly.
The Nazz
12-02-2007, 22:16
That's show's shit. Why do people want to go up on TV and get told they suck by an asshole with a British accent?

Beats the shit out of me. Cowell was the interview in last month's Playboy, and he came out and said that if a young Bob Dylan has been on Idol, he'd have tossed him. Take the best performer of the American Idol series and put him/her up against Dylan and tell me which one is better. Take all the Idol winners and put them up against Dylan for that matter, and Dylan still smokes them.
Gauthier
12-02-2007, 22:18
Beats the shit out of me. Cowell was the interview in last month's Playboy, and he came out and said that if a young Bob Dylan has been on Idol, he'd have tossed him. Take the best performer of the American Idol series and put him/her up against Dylan and tell me which one is better. Take all the Idol winners and put them up against Dylan for that matter, and Dylan still smokes them.

The same shallow mind that watches an Idol show tends to be the same shallow mind that wants to become famous with little effort expended into it and often have delusions of grandeur. And these same shallow minds in turn feed the ego of armchair generals like Cowell. It's a symbiotic relationship that's spreading like bird flu.
Poliwanacraca
12-02-2007, 22:32
Beats the shit out of me. Cowell was the interview in last month's Playboy, and he came out and said that if a young Bob Dylan has been on Idol, he'd have tossed him. Take the best performer of the American Idol series and put him/her up against Dylan and tell me which one is better. Take all the Idol winners and put them up against Dylan for that matter, and Dylan still smokes them.

To be fair, as far as I can tell, the Idol contestants are not being judged on things like "songwriting ability" or "musicality" or even "actual singing ability" so much as "looks cute" and "preteen girls will like them." I can reasonably believe that the Idol folks might beat Dylan in a contest for the affections of 12-year-olds.
Dobbsworld
12-02-2007, 22:34
So it is un-American to like the Dixie Chicks? Hmmm.

Aww, do I haveta like the Dixie Chicks to be un-american?
The Nazz
12-02-2007, 22:36
Aww, do I haveta like the Dixie Chicks to be un-american?

Didn't you get the memo? It was attached to the "How to perform gay marriages while performing abortions on soldiers in the war on terror" pamphlet.
Dobbsworld
12-02-2007, 22:43
Didn't you get the memo? It was attached to the "How to perform gay marriages while performing abortions on soldiers in the war on terror" pamphlet.

That's what I get for readin' comic books instead of memos.
Intangelon
12-02-2007, 22:47
Glad to see. I'm not the biggest fan of country, but the Dixie Chicks are pretty good, although they could have at least thought out an acceptance statement rather than the incomprehensible babbling they had on that stage--five times.

They had no reason to believe they were going to win anything. Hence, no prepared speech.
Dobbsworld
12-02-2007, 22:57
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0211grammys0211.html

Because the Grammy-nominated protest music comes from a liberal viewpoint, one cultural commentator thinks it reflects a bias that the Hollywood acting community also is accused of.

"Neil Young hasn't had any real hits in a long time," says Joe Crummey, a conservative talk-show host on Phoenix's KFYI-AM (550). "What's driving it (Young's nomination for his Living With War album) is that it's a political statement."

So I ask my American friends, are the Grammys supposed to be about excellence in music, or just about selling records? This fella Crummey (laughs at name) sounds like a richard if I ever heard one.
Intangelon
12-02-2007, 23:02
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0211grammys0211.html



So I ask my American friends, are the Grammys supposed to be about excellence in music, or just about selling records? This fella Crummey (laughs at name) sounds like a richard if I ever heard one.

The Grammys have always been a mixture of both sales/popular acclaim combined with critical acclaim. Some years critical acclaim wins out, such as when Steely Dan's release Two Against Nature won three in 2001 (including Album of the Year). Some years, popularity wins out (Madonna's Grammys in the 80s, or the Milli Vanilli debacle). And some years, the two combine (Michael Jackson's Thriller in the 80s comes to mind, among others).
Relyc
12-02-2007, 23:13
Completely despite from the fact that I dont like Bush, I do like country music, and I've been hearing them on the radio since my late childhood...

I absolutely despise them.
West Spartiala
13-02-2007, 00:29
"Hey! An academy award....awww, it's a Grammy..."

My thought exactly. I can't figure out why anyone would care whether or not the Grammy Awards are biased.
Zarakon
13-02-2007, 00:31
The also won the "Most Death Threats" award. Also the "Group We Most Wish Were Lesbians" award. Also the "They Need to Make More Videos, If You Catch My Drift" award.
Vittos the City Sacker
13-02-2007, 00:53
lmao. About an hour or so ago on Fox & Friends they had some big thing about how "the Grammays have an agenda".

The Grammy's do have an agenda, to sell records.
Dobbsworld
13-02-2007, 01:40
The Grammy's do have an agenda, to sell records.

Do people still do that? Buy records?

*continues listening to boosted music collection*
CthulhuFhtagn
13-02-2007, 01:47
Beats the shit out of me. Cowell was the interview in last month's Playboy, and he came out and said that if a young Bob Dylan has been on Idol, he'd have tossed him. Take the best performer of the American Idol series and put him/her up against Dylan and tell me which one is better. Take all the Idol winners and put them up against Dylan for that matter, and Dylan still smokes them.

Dylan was good for many reasons. His singing voice was not one of them.
Relyc
13-02-2007, 02:08
Dylan was good for many reasons. His singing voice was not one of them.

Same with Don Mclean. Wordsmithery was their great strength.
Dobbsworld
13-02-2007, 02:18
Same with Don Mclean. Wordsmithery was their great strength.

I heartily disagree. Don Mclean has a lovely voice. And Bob Dylan's vocalizations were strong due to his voice not having an too much polish. Listen to what was playing on the radio when Dylan first began to draw attention to himself. Tell me that wasn't a jarringly fresh sound for a wider listening audience.
Relyc
13-02-2007, 03:00
I heartily disagree. Don Mclean has a lovely voice. And Bob Dylan's vocalizations were strong due to his voice not having an too much polish. Listen to what was playing on the radio when Dylan first began to draw attention to himself. Tell me that wasn't a jarringly fresh sound for a wider listening audience.


Well "fresh" is certainly a good word for it. I enjoy both Mclean and Dylan, but I really think their voices are among the worst when placed next to other legends of their caliber. Like I said, they are both amazing lyricists-and thats what I admire.
Kinda Sensible people
13-02-2007, 03:16
Do the Grammys have a bias? Well... Lessee...

The Dixie Chicks release one vague, typical pop-archetype song which doesn't even adress most of it's topic directly after backing away from their own rhetoric 'cuz they couldn't stand the hit in their pocketbooks, and they get 5 Grammys.

Conversely, in 2003/4, Bad Religion releases an album full of direct, highly political, anti-Bush rhetoric which breaks away from their softer, tamer work of the late 90's. They receive no Grammys.

I can see a definite bias. The Grammys like easily-digested, simplistic music that doesn't break from the status quo in music but poses as out there and revolutionary. We call it pop.
The Nazz
13-02-2007, 03:22
Do the Grammys have a bias? Well... Lessee...

The Dixie Chicks release one vague, typical pop-archetype song which doesn't even adress most of it's topic directly after backing away from their own rhetoric 'cuz they couldn't stand the hit in their pocketbooks, and they get 5 Grammys.

Conversely, in 2003/4, Bad Religion releases an album full of direct, highly political, anti-Bush rhetoric which breaks away from their softer, tamer work of the late 90's. They receive no Grammys.

I can see a definite bias. The Grammys like easily-digested, simplistic music that doesn't break from the status quo in music but poses as out there and revolutionary. We call it pop.Hell, this past year, I think the best Hip-hop album released was The Coup's "Pick a Bigger Weapon," with lyrics espousing leftist political positions that would make Medea Benjamin steady herself on the furniture. My personal favorite was "My Favorite Mutiny," but the track that got the most publicity was "BabyletshaveababybeforeBushdosomethingcrazy." Not a sniff at the Grammys.
Zarakon
13-02-2007, 03:26
I can see a definite bias. The Grammys like easily-digested, simplistic music that doesn't break from the status quo in music but poses as out there and revolutionary. We call it pop.

Duh. Let's check out one of the CD's the grammies release of the winners.

-Gorillaz. Feel Good Inc.-Record of the Year
-Green Day-Boulevard of Broken Dreams-Record of the Year
-Mariah Carey-It's like that-Album of the Year
-Paul McCartney-Fine Line-Album of the Year-Best male pop vocal performance-best pop vocal album
-U2-City of Blinding Lights-Album of the Year-Best Rock Album
-Rascal Flatts-Bless the Broken Road-Song of the Year
-Bruce Springsteen-Devils and Dust-Song of the Year
-John Legend-Ordinary People-Song of the Year
-Jack Johnson-Sitting, Waiting, Wishing-Best Male Pop Vocal Performance
-Seal-Walk On By-Best Male Pop Vocal Performance
-Rob Thomas-Lonely No More-Best Male Pop Vocal Performance
-Stevie Wonder-From The Bottom of My Heart-Best Male Pop Vocal Performance
-Kelly Clarkson-Since U Been gone-Best Pop vocal album
-Sheryl Crow-Good Is Good-Best Pop Vocal Album
-Coldplay-Speed of Sound-Best Rock Album
-Foo Fighters-Best of You-Best Rock Album
-The Rolling Stones-Rain Fall Down-Best Rock Album
-Neil Young-The Painter-Best Rock Album
-Beck-E-pro-Best Alternative Music Album
-Death Cab for Cutie-Soul Meets Body-Best Alternative Music Album
-Franz Ferdinand-Do You Want To-Best Alternative Music Album

Source: The Back of a Grammy: 2006 Nominees CD.
Maraque
13-02-2007, 03:52
I'm happy for the Dixie Chicks. They deserved it.
CanuckHeaven
13-02-2007, 06:09
I'm happy for the Dixie Chicks. They deserved it.
Yes.....yes they did!! :)
Boonytopia
13-02-2007, 09:12
"Hey! An academy award....awww, it's a Grammy..."

I don't put much stock in that silly award.

Ditto. They seem to have about 1000 different categories, and most of the winners are pretty shit, IMO.