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So I'm on some website and the damn banner ads won't leave me alone. Theres this movie coming out--"The Number 23". (Jim Carrey in a thriller?) I checked out the trailer and they mentioned one thing that bothered me.

2/3 is .666, the number of the beast.

Excuse me, but no. 2/3 is .667 or .67 or .66666... and so on. This is a stretch, even for numerologists.

Well, it's .667 if you ROUND.

And yeah, I know that banner ad. It kinda made me chuckle.

2/3=.666. The number of the beast. COINCIDENCE OR PHENOMANA?

:eek: You dare question something that was in an advertisement!!! :p Jk

666 isn't the number of the beast either. But, you know, who really cares? It's viral marketing; it doesn't need to be accurate to lure suckers in.

666 isn't the number of the beast either. But, you know, who really cares? It's viral marketing; it doesn't need to be accurate to lure suckers in.

Your right, its 616. I forgot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

616 appears in some texts, 666 in others. What matters is that we serve Satan.

Isn't 616 the number of the beast? I mean originally that was it..

edit:Bah!

It's for the sake of the bloody movie...jeez! :headbang:

I don't understand how Nero could manifest himself as 2/3s of anything really...

Trilby63;12318369']Isn't 616 the number of the beast? I mean originally that was it..

edit:Bah!

archaeologists find one source that says 616 and suddenly everyone disregards everything else that pointed to 666. damn new age satanists.

666 forever. \m/

There is evidence that points to both 666 and 616, so you can't say either is more "true" then the other. Makes it sort of moot these days... especially if it did really refer to Nero.

Even so, 2/3 is a repeating decimal. It does to infinity, so saying 2/3 = .666 is as meaningless as saying 2/3 = .66 or 2/3 = .66666666666666666666666... Of course, it certainly isn't .667 or .67 because neither number is equal to 2/3, just very close to it.

There is evidence that points to both 666 and 616, so you can't say either is more "true" then the other. Makes it sort of moot these days... especially if it did really refer to Nero.

Even so, 2/3 is a repeating decimal. It does to infinity, so saying 2/3 = .666 is as meaningless as saying 2/3 = .66 or 2/3 = .66666666666666666666666... Of course, it certainly isn't .667 or .67 because neither number is equal to 2/3, just very close to it.

I just assumed we were doing the sig dig thing.

i will not be seeing that film, simply because it has maths in it. that the maths is wrong bothers me not at all.

i will not be seeing that film, simply because it has maths in it. that the maths is wrong bothers me not at all.

Whats so bad about "maths".

Here I hoped never to deal with turning fractions into decimals ever again. :p

I saw the add on TV. It was mildly annoying. People are stupid, but I gues it was for adevertisment and not a serious paper on maths.

The number of evil is 108. Screw what the religious texts say.

And you waste my time telling me this?:mad:

I must be the only person looking forward for this movie to come out. :(

I must be the only person looking forward for this movie to come out. :(

You are not alone. I like my popcorn movies and this looks like a good one from the commercial.

Whats so bad about "maths".

it gives me brain-ache.

667 - The Neighbor of the Beast.

So I'm on some website and the damn banner ads won't leave me alone. Theres this movie coming out--"The Number 23". (Jim Carrey in a thriller?) I checked out the trailer and they mentioned one thing that bothered me.

2/3 is .666, the number of the beast.

Excuse me, but no. 2/3 is .667 or .67 or .66666... and so on. This is a stretch, even for numerologists.

(Shakes head)

Nutjobs.

Exomina, you're not one of those people who bitched and moaned that December 31, 1999 wasn't really the dawning of the new millennium because there was no "year zero", are you? I ask, because this thread strikes me as the kind of useless nitpicking that is deliberately oblivious to the fact that math and science are ALWAYS fiction's bitch.

May I ask how and why TIE fighters and X-Wings BANK their turns in the airless vacuum of space? That and countless other pointless questions? Give it a rest already and enjoy the movie, or don't go.

Exomina, you're not one of those people who bitched and moaned that December 31, 1999 wasn't really the dawning of the new millennium because there was no "year zero", are you? I ask, because this thread strikes me as the kind of useless nitpicking that is deliberately oblivious to the fact that math and science are ALWAYS fiction's bitch.

May I ask how and why TIE fighters and X-Wings BANK their turns in the airless vacuum of space? That and countless other pointless questions? Give it a rest already and enjoy the movie, or don't go.

Why is their sound effects in space movies? (Well, except for 2001)

How can the enterprise's mission truely last 5 years when they are almost always traveling at light speed, therefore causing relativity to slow time to a crawl?

I was taught fractions and decimals at school by an insane Iranian man who's catchphrase was "Easy as a baby goose!". This film therefore brings back some memories...

*hides*

Exomina, you're not one of those people who bitched and moaned that December 31, 1999 wasn't really the dawning of the new millennium because there was no "year zero", are you? I ask, because this thread strikes me as the kind of useless nitpicking that is deliberately oblivious to the fact that math and science are ALWAYS fiction's bitch.

May I ask how and why TIE fighters and X-Wings BANK their turns in the airless vacuum of space? That and countless other pointless questions? Give it a rest already and enjoy the movie, or don't go.

I don't remember 1999 too good. Science may be science fiction's bitch, but mathematics usually isn't. I'm just afraid of idiots going "OMG, 2/3 the fraction of the beast!" when its really interpretation.

They can bank because they can make sound and they do it because it looks cool. :D

I don't understand how Nero could manifest himself as 2/3s of anything really...Nero? You mean Domitian.

There is evidence that points to both 666 and 616What evidence?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

What evidence?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

This evidence (http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/beast616.htm). 616 is the oldest value. If anything is a scribal error, it's 666.

This evidence (http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/beast616.htm). 616 is the oldest value. If anything is a scribal error, it's 666.However, why is it more likely that an Egyptian copy is rather correct than those from the geographical vicinity of the original writing?

However, why is it more likely that an Egyptian copy is rather correct than those from the geographical vicinity of the original writing?

Because it's older. Location means nothing.

Edit: Also, the newer writings aren't from the geographical vicinity of the original writing, either. They're from mainland Greece and Italy. The original one is from Patmos.

Because it's older. Location means nothing.

Edit: Also, the newer writings aren't from the geographical vicinity of the original writing, either. They're from mainland Greece and Italy. The original one is from Patmos.Well, with the originals lost, what remains is open to interpretation, no matter what's older.
But thank Yah, the book of revelations is only fictional, so it really isn't of great relevance what the number originally was.

Well, with the originals lost, what remains is open to interpretation, no matter what's older.

The older it is, the less chance for deviation exists.

Well, it is this:
___
.666

Well, it is this:
___
.666

:rolleyes:

66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666... is hardly the number of the beast.

:rolleyes:

66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666... is hardly the number of the beast.
it's a beastly number, is what it is.

it's a beastly number, is what it is.

It's not even a number. An infinite series of digits before the decimal point doesn't have any mathematical meaning.

It's not even a number. An infinite series of digits before the decimal point doesn't have any mathematical meaning.

IDF's example was after the decimal point, not before.

IDF's example was after the decimal point, not before.

Ah, but you see. Correlating .666 to 666 can be construed as simply taking whats after the decimal point and putting it after. So .6666666666.... becomes, well you know the rest.

It's not even a number. An infinite series of digits before the decimal point doesn't have any mathematical meaning.
sure it does. it's infinite.

sure it does. it's infinite.

Sure, you can call it that. But mathematician don't. Numbers need to have a finite number of digits before the decimal point, otherwise they're not numbers, they're sequences of numbers.

:rolleyes:

66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666... is hardly the number of the beast.

I know that. Why do you have the rolleyes? I'm not even Christian and thus think 666 is bullshit.

Besides, doesn't 666 represent Emperor Nero since Revelations is really a commentary on the Roman Empire.

Numbers need to have a finite number of digits before the decimal point, otherwise they're not numbers, they're sequences of numbers.

I'm sorry, but there's something called an infinitely large number that means that you are wrong.

I'm sorry, but there's something called an infinitely large number that means that you are wrong.

Infinity is not a number (in the traditional sense of real numbers).

There are formulations of infinitely large numbers, but none of them involve an infinite-digit whole number.

There are formulations of infinitely large numbers, but none of them involve an infinite-digit whole number.

Any infinitely large number will involve an infinite-digit whole number, by definition. If it doesn't have an infinite-digit whole number, it cannot be infinitely large, since it is representable in the form 1 + 1 + ... + 1.

Any infinitely large number will involve an infinite-digit whole number, by definition. If it doesn't have an infinite-digit whole number, it cannot be infinitely large, since it is representable in the form 1 + 1 + ... + 1.
aye, it is, in fact, infinite.

Any infinitely large number will involve an infinite-digit whole number, by definition. If it doesn't have an infinite-digit whole number, it cannot be infinitely large, since it is representable in the form 1 + 1 + ... + 1.

Dude, you don't understand infinity at all. Omega, the smallest infinite ordinal, is defined as the set of all finite ordinal numbers. Aleph null,the smallest infinite cardinal, is defined as the cardinality of the set of natural numbers. Infinity in real analysis is simply a direction used to describe asymptotic behavior, rather than an actual number.

Heres why you cannot have an arithmetic with infinite-digit numbers:
In your arithmetic, there is a number ...99999. that is an infinite number. If you add one, because of carrying laws you get ...000000. Which is obviously finite, or is it?

Any system with infinite-digit numbers would run into problems very quickly.

This like a Cantor kind of thing?

Dude, you don't understand infinity at all. Omega, the smallest infinite ordinal, is defined as the set of all finite ordinal numbers. Aleph null,the smallest infinite cardinal, is defined as the cardinality of the set of natural numbers. Infinity in real analysis is simply a direction used to describe asymptotic behavior, rather than an actual number.
Dude, infinitely large numbers are not infinity. They simply have an infinite number of digits.

Heres why you cannot have an arithmetic with infinite-digit numbers:
In your arithmetic, there is a number ...99999. that is an infinite number. If you add one, because of carrying laws you get ...000000. Which is obviously finite, or is it?
Nope, it's also an infinitely large number. Welcome to the world of mathematics.

Any system with infinite-digit numbers would run into problems very quickly.
The hyperreal number system does fine.

The hyperreal number system does fine.

Yea, I thought of that after I posted it. Is that what you were thinking of all along?

Now this may be nit picking, but hyperreal numbers are sequences of numbers and not digits.

And I am a hard core surreal number fan all the way.

Now this may be nit picking, but hyperreal numbers are sequences of numbers and not digits.


I know. Infinitely large numbers are not sequences, even though the hyperreal number system uses them.

I know. Infinitely large numbers are not sequences, even though the hyperreal number system uses them.

I'm just trying the say that there are no infinitely large natural numbers.

I know that. Why do you have the rolleyes? I'm not even Christian and thus think 666 is bullshit.

Besides, doesn't 666 represent Emperor Nero since Revelations is really a commentary on the Roman Empire.

Revelation is a book of hope for Christians, no matter what time period they live through.

One could argue that since 2/3 is 0.666 repeated infinitely, thus it's the number of the beast repeated infinitely.

I'm just trying the say that there are no infinitely large natural numbers.

No shit. No one ever claimed otherwise.

One could argue that since 2/3 is 0.666 repeated infinitely, thus it's the number of the beast repeated infinitely.

One could also argue that people who look for numbers like 5, 23, 42, 47, and 666 in random coincidences are complete asses with no redeeming qualities.

One would be wrong, but not far off the mark.

Revelation is a book of hope for Christians, no matter what time period they live through.

How is it a "book of hope"? It says that all Christians are going to Hell.

No shit. No one ever claimed otherwise.

Not really true, I've got this friend who claims it is. So I sent him a page long set-theoretic proof that it isn't (with doodles).

sounds like a clear cut case of Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia to me....

How is it a "book of hope"? It says that all Christians are going to Hell.


Do what? Where does it say Christians are going to hell? Have you even read the book? I suggest you start by reading the first two or three chapters, namely the letters to the 7 churches. I think the letter too Smyrna is the best. But it outlines hope in the midst of all the BS that goes on around us. That hope is that even though this world may fall apart, those that know Jesus may die here, but will live eternally.

So I'm on some website and the damn banner ads won't leave me alone. Theres this movie coming out--"The Number 23". (Jim Carrey in a thriller?) I checked out the trailer and they mentioned one thing that bothered me.

2/3 is .666, the number of the beast.

Excuse me, but no. 2/3 is .667 or .67 or .66666... and so on. This is a stretch, even for numerologists.

Heh. I complained about that the first time I saw the commercial for that movie, too. At the very least, they could have said that 2/3 is "666, the number of the beast, to infinity," or something. :p

One could also argue that people who look for numbers like 5, 23, 42, 47, and 666 in random coincidences are complete asses with no redeeming qualities.

One would be wrong, but not far off the mark.
Similarly, one could easily and successfully argue that people who don't understand facetiousness are complete asses with no redeeming qualities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

616 appears in some texts, 666 in others. What matters is that we serve Satan.

And the root source for that, http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/beast616.htm, also mentions 665.

I don't understand how Nero could manifest himself as 2/3s of anything really...

2/3rds sane, maybe?

The number of evil is 108. Screw what the religious texts say.

:cool: Somebody been studing up on Indian religious traditions. http://assets.jolt.co.uk/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

The older it is, the less chance for deviation exists.

Indeed. That being said... :::hides from scary math people:::

archaeologists find one source that says 616 and suddenly everyone disregards everything else that pointed to 666. damn new age satanists.

666 forever. \m/
It just gives the Catholics one more group of people to hate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

616 appears in some texts, 666 in others. What matters is that we serve Satan.

666 is written in ancient greek numbers as digamma-digamma-digamma.
The digamma was originally the 6th letter of the greek alphabet, later unusued and dropped): it was written like the latin "F", hence its name (is resembles two "gamma", one on the top of the other). To mean 6, the lowercase form was used.

The pronounciation of the digamma is not /f/ like in Latin. It is /w/ .

Hence the number of the beast is www . That is, whenever you use the internet, you worship the Beast. Oh my...
;)

I hope this hasn't been posted already.

Q. What is 668?

A. The neighbour of the beast.

Hence the number of the beast is www . That is, whenever you use the internet, you worship the Beast. Oh my...
;)

Rev 13:17

"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. "

;)

Actually, the number of the beast is supposed to be an addition problem, so it's really 18. Which also happens to be the military age. Coincidence? I think not.


/bullshit

I hope this hasn't been posted already.

Q. What is 668?

A. The neighbour of the beast.


667 - The Neighbor of the Beast.

Same joke, done better. ;)

Same joke, done better. ;)
Wha?

The Law Of Fives will smite you all.

Five times!

The Law Of Fives will smite you all.

Five times!

Omigosh, posted on the fifth page!

Omigosh, posted on the fifth page!

Yup, and it was post 72. And 7-2 is 5. And that was size 23, and 2+3=5

Yup, and it was post 72. And 7-2 is 5. And that was size 23, and 2+3=5

And you posted it at 11:20. 20-11 is 9, wait, thats not right. And 9-4 is 5!

Wha?

You told it earlier and better. 667 follows 666, and is thus the "neighbor of the beast" rather than 668. ;)

Omigosh, posted on the fifth page!

Err... no. (Remember that the number of posts per page is an variable option and other posters have set a different numbers, so pages won't correspond. For example, this is page two for me, since I'm set to 40 posts per page.)

snip't

And 40/(5+5)+5/5 = 5!!!!

Thats 5 fives!

And 40/(5+5)+5/5 = 5!!!!

Thats 5 fives!

You are very good at this. Tell me, are you fond of bunless hotdogs?

You are very good at this. Tell me, are you fond of bunless hotdogs?

How did you know? :)

How did you know? :)

www.principiadiscordia.com

You told it earlier and better. 667 follows 666, and is thus the "neighbor of the beast" rather than 668. ;)





668 is the neighbor of the beast because on the same side of the street the numbers are either even or odd. So 668 is the neighbor of the beast and 667 would be across the street from the beast.

Numbers of the beast.



666 Number of the beast
668 Neighbor of the beast
660 Approximate number of the beast
DCLXVI Roman numeral of the beast
666.0000 Number of the high-precision beast
0.666 Number of the millibeast
1/666 Common denominator of the beast
666[-/(-1)] Imaginary number of the beast
1010011010 Binary number of the beast
29A Hexidecimal number of the beast
-666 Negative number of the beast
00666 Zip code of the beast
$665.95 Retail price of the beast
$699.25 Price of the beast plus 5% state sales tax
$769.95 Price of the beast with all accessories and replacements
$656.66 Wal-Mart price of the beast
$646.66 Next week's Wal-Mart price of the beast
$333.00 After-Christmas sale price of the beast
$222.00 Going-out of business liquidation price of the beast
Phillips 666 Gasoline of the beast
Route 666 Way of the beast
665 Older brother of the beast
667 Younger brother of the beast
666 UP Soft drink of the beast
666lb cap Weight limit of the beast
666 F Oven temperature for cooking roast "beast"
666k Retirement plan of the beast
666 mg Recommended minimum daily requirement of the beast
6.66% 5-year CD rate at First Beast of Hell, $666 minimum deposit
20/666 Vision of the beast
1-800-666-6666 Toll-free number of the beast
999 Australian number of the beast
6"X 6"X 6" Lumber of the beast
66.6 GHZ Computer processor of the beast
666i BMW of the beast
666-66-6666 Social security number of the beast
6/6/66 Birth date of the beast
666.AC.com URL of the beast
IAM 666 License plate number of the beast
Formula 666 All-purpose cleaner of the beast
666 calories Diet of the beast
969 Dyslexic number of the beast
WD-666 Spray lubricant of the beast
66.6 MHz FM radio station of the beast
666 KHz AM radio station of the beast
Chanel No. 666 The beast's favorite perfume

You told it earlier and better. 667 follows 666, and is thus the "neighbor of the beast" rather than 668. ;)
:fluffle:

So I'm on some website and the damn banner ads won't leave me alone. Theres this movie coming out--"The Number 23". (Jim Carrey in a thriller?) I checked out the trailer and they mentioned one thing that bothered me.

2/3 is .666, the number of the beast.

Excuse me, but no. 2/3 is .667 or .67 or .66666... and so on. This is a stretch, even for numerologists.


Heh sheesh it's afilm man, you know fiction?

You told it earlier and better. 667 follows 666, and is thus the "neighbor of the beast" rather than 668. ;)
However, the joke is a play on the interpretation of the word, 'number'. In this case being used as the address of the beast, not some mythical number.
Therfore, his neighbour would be either 664 or 668.
667 lives across the road so isn't as neighbourly as the other two.



Ahhhh....nothing like pedantry to destroy a joke.

However, the joke is a play on the interpretation of the word, 'number'. In this case being used as the address of the beast, not some mythical number.
Therfore, his neighbour would be either 664 or 668.
667 lives across the road so isn't as neighbourly as the other two.

Yes. But 666 and 667 are adjacent numerically, and are thus more naturally considered neighbors.

Ahhhh....nothing like pedantry to destroy a joke.

Bingo. I like GN's version better because it's natural and not pedantic, as I suggested above. 666 and 668 being "neighbors" is pedantic, while 666 and 667 are more natural because one generally counts single integers - 665, 666, 667, and not doubles - 664, 666, 668.

Ah well, the humor's already well busted.

Why is their sound effects in space movies? (Well, except for 2001)

How can the enterprise's mission truely last 5 years when they are almost always traveling at light speed, therefore causing relativity to slow time to a crawl?

No sound effects in Firefly either.

Also depends on how it works, if it moved at light speed yes relativistic effects would slow time to a crawl. If it worked like an Alcubierre drive it would not be hampered by relativistic issues.

Yes. But 666 and 667 are adjacent numerically, and are thus more naturally considered neighbors.



Bingo. I like GN's version better because it's natural and not pedantic, as I suggested above. 666 and 668 being "neighbors" is pedantic, while 666 and 667 are more natural because one generally counts single integers - 665, 666, 667, and not doubles - 664, 666, 668.

Ah well, the humor's already well busted.

Pedantic? How is it pedantic to make a joke that relies on the house numbeirng convention? I find it to be more imaginative than pedantic. Besides, it allows oyu to picture some family next door to 666 Something Street, seeing the Satans while getting mail or mowing the lawn, and each family having the other over for barbecues. Of course, the Satan family barbecue would probably involve one or two of the attendees, but still....

Pedantic? How is it pedantic to make a joke that relies on the house numbeirng convention? I find it to be more imaginative than pedantic. Besides, it allows oyu to picture some family next door to 666 Something Street, seeing the Satans while getting mail or mowing the lawn, and each family having the other over for barbecues. Of course, the Satan family barbecue would probably involve one or two of the attendees, but still....

For the reasons I mentioned above. If you say "667, the neighboir of the beast" one's mind naturally clicks on 666 and 667 being neighboring integers. 666 and 668 don't naturally click as neighboring. In that case one has to associate a numbering convention that isn't a natural. That's why I said the 668 version was pedantic. It may be a technically correct in US street numbering convention, but it's not an automatic connection.

For the reasons I mentioned above. If you say "667, the neighboir of the beast" one's mind naturally clicks on 666 and 667 being neighboring integers. 666 and 668 don't naturally click as neighboring. In that case one has to associate a numbering convention that isn't a natural. That's why I said the 668 version was pedantic. It may be a technically correct in US street numbering convention, but it's not an automatic connection.

They can be apartments if that makes it work better...

668 is the neighbor of the beast because on the same side of the street the numbers are either even or odd. So 668 is the neighbor of the beast and 667 would be across the street from the beast.

Numbers of the beast.



2*3*3*37

Why is their sound effects in space movies? (Well, except for 2001)

Why are there sound effects in space movies, Zarakon.

English has made another its bitch...

For the reasons I mentioned above. If you say "667, the neighboir of the beast" one's mind naturally clicks on 666 and 667 being neighboring integers. 666 and 668 don't naturally click as neighboring. In that case one has to associate a numbering convention that isn't a natural. That's why I said the 668 version was pedantic. It may be a technically correct in US street numbering convention, but it's not an automatic connection.

your mind naturally clicks on 666 and 667 being neighboring integers

i read '668 - neighbour of the beast' as meaning 'the residency next door' no problem

it's a different interpretation, sure - but it's not pedantic

this argument is pedantic...

ps. i like your mis-spelling of 'neighboir' - made me think of 'neighbour' crossed with 'abattoir' for some reason...

Rev 13:17

"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. "

;)

Right. E-trade has ushered us into the last days. Verily, I say unto thee, repent and believe... oops, too late. ;)

your mind naturally clicks on 666 and 667 being neighboring integers

i read '668 - neighbour of the beast' as meaning 'the residency next door' no problem

it's a different interpretation, sure - but it's not pedantic

Seeing as pedantic is overly concerned with details, such as street numbering conventions, that's why I still consider it pedantic.

this argument is pedantic...

Indeed.
It's this exact sort of pedantry that I consider spoils the joke if one insist on un-naturally and pedantically following the street numbering conventions of the US instead of more natural and conventional integer ordering.

Or to put it more simply, one version requires the listener to make an unnecessary extra step. I consider the other version superior. This whole bit has been about why I consider the simpler version superior.

ps. i like your mis-spelling of 'neighboir' - made me think of 'neighbour' crossed with 'abattoir' for some reason...

Twas a beauty of a typo, wasn't it. Fits well with my latest sig quote too. :::chawmp!:::

(Hehe - I just corrected another potentially funny typo - blatest instead of latest. Blatest just sounds such such an easy combo of "blantant" and "latest"... ;))

I suppose it wouldn't be surprising if it was originally 616, though I think 666 sounds cooler.

I don't remember 1999 too good. Science may be science fiction's bitch, but mathematics usually isn't. I'm just afraid of idiots going "OMG, 2/3 the fraction of the beast!" when its really interpretation.
I really wouldn't worry about fractions catching on in numerology. Fractions are about where those folk started finding maths too hard. :p

They can bank because they can make sound and they do it because it looks cool. :D

Making turns by rolling the craft and using the main engine as a retro-rocket would look seriously cool too.

The public has seen enough real space footage that it really shouldn't be necessary to keep presenting spacecraft as aeroplanes to make them seem fast and exciting.

In "Dark Star" the crew stop the ship by turning the engine off. It stops dead in space, as if it had no momentum at all. That film did it for a joke, but it could be seriously impressive if done right ... a dogfight where every ship has complete freedom of movement and essentially infinite top speed.

For the reasons I mentioned above. If you say "667, the neighboir of the beast" one's mind naturally clicks on 666 and 667 being neighboring integers. 666 and 668 don't naturally click as neighboring. In that case one has to associate a numbering convention that isn't a natural. That's why I said the 668 version was pedantic. It may be a technically correct in US street numbering convention, but it's not an automatic connection.

Isn't natural? It's been that way with street addresses for at least a century -- it's natural if you've ever had a delivery job or been in law enforcement, fire departments or home services of any kind.

North and East, odd numbers; South and West, evens. Simple as that.

I left alone my mind was blank
I needed time to think to get the memories from my mind

What did I see can I believe that what I saw
that night was real and not just fantasy

Just what I saw in my old dreams were they
reflections of my warped mind staring back at me

Cos in my dreams it's always there the evil face that twists my mind
and brings me to despair

The night was black was no use holding back
Cos I just had to see was someone watching me
In the mist dark figures move and twist
was all this for real or just some kind of hell
666 the Number of the Beast
Hell and fire was spawned to be released

Torches blazed and sacred chants were praised
as they start to cry hands held to the sky
In the night the fires are burning bright
the ritual has begun Satan's work is done
666 the Number of the Beast
Sacrifice is going on tonight

This can't go on I must inform the law
Can this still be real or just some crazy dream
but I feel drawn towards the evil chanting hordes
they seem to mesmerize...can't avoid their eyes
666 the Number of the Beast
666 the one for you and me

I'm coming back I will return
And I'll possess your body and I'll make you burn
I have the fire I have the force
I have the power to make my evil take its course

:)

So I'm on some website and the damn banner ads won't leave me alone. Theres this movie coming out--"The Number 23". (Jim Carrey in a thriller?) I checked out the trailer and they mentioned one thing that bothered me.

2/3 is .666, the number of the beast.

Excuse me, but no. 2/3 is .667 or .67 or .66666... and so on. This is a stretch, even for numerologists.

"Numerologists" are the worst bunch of swindling, scum-sucking liars and charlatans out there. Nothing is "a stretch" for their breed of swine and filth.

That aside, it is for a dumb movie, so who cares?