Famly cells in prison.
Celtlund
11-02-2007, 19:55
This article is about family cells in a prison in Spain. It gives some of the pros and cons of having such cells.
Some of the pros are the family gets to stay together and bond as a family.
Some or the cons are the affect it could have on the child's development and the trama of seperation when the child becomes 3 years old and has to leave to live with relatives.
What do you think?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070210/ap_on_re_eu/families_in_prison_1
IL Ruffino
11-02-2007, 19:59
No no no no no, no.
Celtlund
11-02-2007, 20:00
No no no no no, no.
Why not?
Steel Butterfly
11-02-2007, 20:01
Why not?
Because the kids shouldn't be growing up with their dirtbag criminal parents
IL Ruffino
11-02-2007, 20:03
Because the kids shouldn't be growing up with their dirtbag criminal parents
Exactly!
Swilatia
11-02-2007, 20:30
Now this is officially weird.
Now this is officially weird.
I didn't read the article, but if it's what it sounds like I agree.
Yes yes yes.
The first few years are critical when it comes to bonding with parents, and it gives the parents themselves good incentive to rehabilitate in order to come out of prison and reintegrate.
Cabra West
11-02-2007, 20:46
I'm not too sure about this... I think at that age, toddlers don't realise that the environment they live in is not "normal". So I doubt it harms them in any way.
The question is, at some stage the kid will need to start having a normal live nevertheless, and if the parent has to serve an extensive prison sentence, they will have to live through separation one way or another.
The question is if it's better to let the child go through that sooner or later...
Most psychologist will tell you that the first 3-4 years are the most important years for a child to develop relationships and bonds with family members. A disturbance, like the permanent absense of a parent the child got used to, in that periofd can result in trauma and serious relationship issues later in life.
Personally, I think it's a good idea. As good as it gets under the circumstances.
Because the kids shouldn't be growing up with their dirtbag criminal parents
Yes, much better they be foisted off on (perhaps unwilling) relatives, or the state...which ends up happening after a few years anyway.
It's not all that uncommon you know...at least these conditions are more humane than the situation many children find themselves in when parents are imprisoned.
Celtlund
11-02-2007, 20:51
I didn't read the article, but if it's what it sounds like I agree.
You really need to read the article. :(
You really need to read the article. :(
Okay, I read part of it. I'm not sure whether or not it's a great idea.
New Xero Seven
11-02-2007, 21:11
I don't see a problem with it, as long as the children themselves see the reality of crime and won't end up on the same path as their parents.
Kulikovo
11-02-2007, 21:15
Imprisoning children is a great idea!
Imprisoning children is a great idea!
Yeah. Otherwise them fucking toddlers will be out gettin' health benefits from mercury and drawin' wangs on chalkboards!
Free Soviets
11-02-2007, 21:36
Yes yes yes.
The first few years are critical when it comes to bonding with parents, and it gives the parents themselves good incentive to rehabilitate in order to come out of prison and reintegrate.
no no no, we must do everything we can to make sure that people have no ties outside of prison, and nothing to help reintegrate them into society when they get out. duh.
Imprisoning children is a great idea!
Or we could just, y'know, stop people breeding altogether.
Dobbsworld
11-02-2007, 23:13
Yes yes yes.
The first few years are critical when it comes to bonding with parents, and it gives the parents themselves good incentive to rehabilitate in order to come out of prison and reintegrate.
Well, I happen to agree - not that I expect much from teh bread-and-water-and-nonconsensual-sodomy-in-prison crowd on NS.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
11-02-2007, 23:26
no no no, we must do everything we can to make sure that people have no ties outside of prison, and nothing to help reintegrate them into society when they get out. duh.
No, its much better to insure that children adapt to prison as their "natural" environment and then dump them out into the world. Especially if you can manage to add the childhood trauma of being removed from the parents and peers they've lived with for their first 3 years.
German Nightmare
12-02-2007, 00:49
I feel that's a good idea.
After all, what is the alternative?
Rubiconic Crossings
12-02-2007, 00:58
Or we could just, y'know, stop people breeding altogether.
I'd vote for that...as a temporary measure anyway...until we can prevent the daily 30,000 deaths of children from disease, starvation and malnutrition.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
12-02-2007, 01:02
Or we could just, y'know, stop people breeding altogether.
Or at least make them wait to start cranking otu babies until one partner has gotten out of prison.
Johnny B Goode
12-02-2007, 01:07
Because the kids shouldn't be growing up with their dirtbag criminal parents
What he said.
Prison ain't so bad, you can make Sangruiea in the toirlet. Of course it's shank or be shanked.
What child wouldn't benifit from such knowledge.