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so it finally came out.

who will be next tory leader?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/homepage/int/ne/nhdr/h1/t/-/news/1/hi/uk/6350909.stm

Cameron 'smoked drugs at school'
David Cameron
Cameron was caught smoking cannabis, the newspaper claims
Allegations that Conservative leader David Cameron took drugs at school have been made in a new biography.

The Mail on Sunday claims the book says Mr Cameron, then aged 15, was one of several boys called before the head of Eton College for smoking cannabis.

He confessed and was grounded, but was not the ringleader, the paper says.

A Conservative Party spokesman said: "David has always maintained politicians have a right to a private life before they come into politics."

He pointed out that the alleged incident happened almost 25 years ago. Mr Cameron, now 40, has so far made no comment.

Yes, that reputable tome of knowledge, the Mail on Sunday.
UGH.
Yes. Publicity stunt. To make him seem like he's got a personality.

how do you have a ring leader of a group smoking weed?

Yes, that reputable tome of knowledge, the Mail on Sunday.
UGH.
Yes. Publicity stunt. To make him seem like he's got a personality.

Nah...he did...its been one of those 'dirty little secrets' politicians have. The tory grandees won't like this.

Who the hell doesn't smoke a bit of weed in their life? It's not like he was a heroin addict. :rolleyes:

I'll bet cameron planted this story himself.

Honestly, his pathetic need to fit in with the 'cool' crowd puts even Princess Tony to shame.

Who the hell doesn't smoke a bit of weed in their life? It's not like he was a heroin addict. :rolleyes:

Me. I only ever did coke. Weed is a hippy drug.

Who the hell doesn't smoke a bit of weed in their life? It's not like he was a heroin addict. :rolleyes:

Because the Tories are rabidly anti drug this will have damaged Cameron.

I'll bet cameron planted this story himself.

Honestly, his pathetic need to fit in with the 'cool' crowd puts even Princess Tony to shame.

LOL nah...nothing can put the Rev Smiler to shame...remember 'Cool Britannia'?

Me. I only ever did coke. Weed is a hippy drug.

Coke...yuck. Do you know how its processed before it even leaves the jungles? Truly a chemical soup... yuck yuck yuck yuck!

Let the 'whiter than white' Labour smear campaign begin!:rolleyes:

Who is David Cameron? Anyone important?

Who is David Cameron? Anyone important?

He is the leader of the UK conservative party. They have become more liberal in recent years; they are now like your (assuming you are an american) Democrats.

The conservative party is currently in opposition. It is not in power but is the next largest/powerfull party.

David Comeron is a defender of the rich and snobby who wants to 'hug a hoodie'.

zomg, and blair knows how to play the electric guitar. Just what is the UK coming. Quite frankly all of this disgusts me. I am so appalled that I might just consider voting libdem at the next election - that is the extent of my disatisfaction. :mad:

He is the leader of the UK conservative party. They have become more liberal in recent years; they are now like your Democrats.

The conservative party is currently in opposition. It is not in power but is the next largest/powerfull party.

David Comeron is a defender of the rich and snobby who wants to 'hug a hoodie'.The man doesn't get much media coverage in the rest of Europe, does he?

assuming you are an americanNo need to insult me.

how do you have a ring leader of a group smoking weed?
The one who supplied it most probably.

LOL nah...nothing can put the Rev Smiler to shame...remember 'Cool Britannia'?
Cool Britannia, Britannia you are cool, Take a trip, Britons ever ever ever shall be hip.

That one?

The fact that the report mentions him going to Eton is probably more damaging than him having probably smoked Cannabis.

how do you have a ring leader of a group smoking weed?
The one who's the most stoned and prepared to say "yeah... whatever, mate" when the police ask if they're the ringleader :)

Any way - his new nickname should be "Dangerous Dave", for sure. Although some papers *coughs* The Express *coughs* will probably go with the easy "Druggie Dave".

Boris Johnson said that it'd be odd to find a consverative MP who hadn't smoked weed at some point.

Boris Johnson said that it'd be odd to find a consverative MP who hadn't smoked weed at some point.
He also eats pies 3 times the size of his own head, which is hilarious.

Boris Johnson said that it'd be odd to find a consverative MP who hadn't smoked weed at some point.
Boris admitted to trying to do coke, but sneezing, on HIGNFY.

Cameron can't be any worse than the cokehead/alchy we have over here.(Jr.) But who really cares at least Cameron could get that neo-fascist Blair out. Omg...I never would think that I would want a Conservative to win but really this is cause Labour is neo-con butt licker of Dubya.

Cameron can't be any worse than the cokehead/alchy we have over here.(Jr.) But who really cares at least Cameron could get that neo-fascist Blair out. Omg...I never would think that I would want a Conservative to win but really this is cause Labour is neo-con butt licker of Dubya.

And you think Cameron won't be, if he gets in? He might be a populist, but there's no way he's going to ditch our "special relationship"*spits* with the States in favour fo strengthening European ties. HO HO NO.

And you think Cameron won't be, if he gets in? He might be a populist, but there's no way he's going to ditch our "special relationship"*spits* with the States in favour fo strengthening European ties. HO HO NO.
Aye. We'd best be looking to the Lib Dems for that.

I started paying attention to David Cameron when it was reported in the news that he apologised to Mandela for the UK Conservative Party's support for apartheid. Although Cameron is actually to the left of me on many issues, I have a great deal of respect for him for owning up to one of his party's foreign policy errors.

I started paying attention to David Cameron when it was reported in the news that he apologised to Mandela for the UK Conservative Party's support for apartheid. Although Cameron is actually to the left of me on many issues, I have a great deal of respect for him for owning up to one of his party's foreign policy errors.
You have great respect for a politician trying to make political gain?

That the Conservative Party supported apartheid in S. Africa makes no difference to Cameron, except that by apologising for it (yeah, really makes a lot of difference) he can be seen to be a nice guy with a conscience.

He's just as cyncial and manipulative as any other politician, but he's trying to hide it all behind his cuddly happy nice guy image.

And you think Cameron won't be, if he gets in? He might be a populist, but there's no way he's going to ditch our "special relationship"*spits* with the States in favour fo strengthening European ties. HO HO NO.

Probaly not. Most in the Conservative party tend to Euroskeptics. Honestly I don't really like the conservatives but right now the f****** Labour party is neo-fascist so we gotta get them out before they really do turn the UK like V for Vendetta.

Aye. We'd best be looking to the Lib Dems for that.

Exactly what I said before except the Lib Dems never seem to get there shit together to create a unified party. I would love to see in the UK the Greens and Lib Democrats make a coalition to form a majority.

Probaly not. Most in the Conservative party tend to Euroskeptics. Honestly I don't really like the conservatives but right now the f****** Labour party is neo-fascist so we gotta get them out before they really do turn the UK like V for Vendetta.

Neo-fascist...no I don't think so.


Exactly what I said before except the Lib Dems never seem to get there shit together to create a unified party. I would love to see in the UK the Greens and Lib Democrats make a coalition to form a majority.

And that (thankfully) will never happen.

Honestly I don't really like the conservatives but right now the f****** Labour party is neo-fascist so we gotta get them out before they really do turn the UK like V for Vendetta.



The conservatives haven't said they're even going to anything differantly in those kind of areas though.

Aye. We'd best be looking to the Lib Dems for that.

Right enough.

You hear that kids don't do drugs or you will become a politician!:eek:

The conservatives haven't said they're even going to anything differantly in those kind of areas though.
Well, the don't support ID cards, but the only reason for that is because Neo Labour are doing it. It's partisan hackery, really.

Who the hell doesn't smoke a bit of weed in their life?

Me, my gf, my mother didn't smoke weed! I'm pretty sure my sister did not either. Alot of people have not touched the stuff.

Who is David Cameron? Anyone important?

Please tell me you are not that idiotic. Coming from someone who supposedly follows news, I'm going to say that this post is a joke post.

The man doesn't get much media coverage in the rest of Europe, does he?

Oh he's been in the news if you know where to look.

No need to insult me.

:rolleyes:

I can't stand it when people bang on about 'fascist bush', 'nazi blair', or us living in a police state. I consider myself quite hard on the left but the guys in power in the US and UK at the moment are not either fascist or neo-fascist.

I will probably get blown out of the water for saying this but I do not consider either of them EVILLLLL. Misguided at worst and led by business interests but they arent evil fascists as some airheads on the left would like us to believe.

It would be an absolute disaster if the Liberals or Greens got in it has to be said. In my opinion they belong to the 'intellectual left', whom I consider to be sort of student radical types. The left has to find some practical alternatives rather than the unelectable TAX EM TILL THEY DROP AND GIVE OUT BENEFITS.

I'm all for higher taxation but seriously, the left has to be far more accountable about the spending of increased taxation, at the moment we have the dictatorship of the media that is turning our politicians into image obsessed narcissists. Labours attempts at tax and spend has just been tax and waste. It would be hell with the Liberals and Greens.

Some people can turn anything into a rant, however completely unrelated it is, can't they?

I can't stand it when people bang on about 'fascist bush', 'nazi blair', or us living in a police state. I consider myself quite hard on the left but the guys in power in the US and UK at the moment are not either fascist or neo-fascist.
We may not be, but we are moving in the direction of a police state. The government is slowly but steadily curbing our civil liberties in the name of counter terrorism and national defence. It's not one specific policy, it is the entire ethos of the current government - who are completely unchecked with a parliamentary majority and no constitution or overriding rights.

I will probably get blown out of the water for saying this but I do not consider either of them EVILLLLL. Misguided at worst and led by business interests but they arent evil fascists as some airheads on the left would like us to believe.
Evil isn't something I throw around a lot, but I have to say our current government is the closest to getting there so far.

It would be an absolute disaster if the Liberals or Greens got in it has to be said. In my opinion they belong to the 'intellectual left', whom I consider to be sort of student radical types. The left has to find some practical alternatives rather than the unelectable TAX EM TILL THEY DROP AND GIVE OUT BENEFITS.
Well, our tax levels are quite close to the developed world average, and at least the latter half has managed to sustain the Labour party through three elections, so it's hardly unelectable 'tax and benefits till you drop.'

What alternative would you recommended for the left of the UK political spectrum, then? I'm not trying to be partisan here, I'm genuinely interested.

I'm all for higher taxation but seriously, the left has to be far more accountable about the spending of increased taxation, at the moment we have the dictatorship of the media that is turning our politicians into image obsessed narcissists. Labours attempts at tax and spend has just been tax and waste. It would be hell with the Liberals and Greens.
Doesn't that contradict what you just said? But you are right about waste, Labour has dropped untold billions into subsidies and useless PFI initiatives which simply don't work, which is partly responsible for the mess the NHS in in now. The Liberals would be the same, but what makes you say the same about the Greens? Last I looked, they were against this sort of policy.

... he can be seen to be a nice guy with a conscience.
If you're saying that voting someone who comes across as a nice guy with a conscience into the position of the effective leader of the political body of our country is an ineffective means of ensuring that such a position is adopted by the eventual holder of that position then that doesn't leave much hope for democracy as a method of governance.

Firstly, I don't care what he did at school. At all.

Seconsly, heres hoping the demagogue is replaced by Portillo!

Firstly, I don't care what he did at school. At all.Yeah, where you go to school is so more important. I mean Eton... he's bound to be wrong in the head somewhere. Maybe he thinks that people are only unemployed because they choose to be unemployed or that a good way to combat global warming is to cycle to work and have your suit driven to work in your chauffeur-driven-Lexus.

Yeah, where you go to school is so more important. I mean Eton... he's bound to be wrong in the head somewhere. Maybe he thinks that people are only unemployed because they choose to be unemployed or that a good way to combat global warming is to cycle to work and have your suit driven to work in your chauffeur-driven-Lexus.

Gosh, how terribly original. It is not Cameron's fault that he was born rich, any more, I might add, than it was Blairs.....

So a guy did drugs as a teenager? This is supposed to be shocking news?

Gosh, how terribly original. It is not Cameron's fault that he was born rich, any more, I might add, than it was Blairs.....When did I ever say I liked Blair :confused: Hmm... I might have said I like Blair 10 years ago, but I was only just starting to get interested in politics back then.

Oh, and for the record, I've never said that I've liked Ming the Merciless.

Anyway, just because you're rich doesn't make it any more of a good idea to cycle to work and then get your suit driven to work separately in a car. Regardless of wealth, the idea is downright stupid. Unless of course you were aiming for a publicity stunt.

Besides, I wasn't saying Cameron was an idiot for being rich, I said he was an idiot for being educated at a school that is far disconected from reality as is possible. I mean, it's even a boarding school. These Etonians grow up in a surreal environment.

Gosh, how terribly original. It is not Cameron's fault that he was born rich, any more, I might add, than it was Blairs.....
While I'm not bothered about his family wealth, Eton is a hole. It revels in its self-imposed cultural elitism and fosters a sort of self importance that leaves a good number of its alumni giving the Chavs a run for their money in the debate over the most repulsive people in Britain.

If he's survived it with a sense of ethics and empathy genuinely intact (rather than the sort of pretense that so often accompanies those of its standing) then he gets all the credit in the world for doing so; he has accomplished a noteworthy feat. However, whether he is simply another Blair, pandering to an audience, or a genuine benefactor, still remains to be seen.

So a guy did drugs as a teenager? This is supposed to be shocking news?It's shocking news because he is a prospective leader of the UK, and apparently us brits are complete and utter prudes when it comes to drugs, sex, and rock and roll.

When did I ever say I liked Blair :confused: Hmm... I might have said I like Blair 10 years ago, but I was only just starting to get interested in politics back then.

Oh, and for the record, I've never said that I've liked Ming the Merciless.

Anyway, just because you're rich doesn't make it any more of a good idea to cycle to work and then get your suit driven to work separately in a car. Regardless of wealth, the idea is downright stupid. Unless of course you were aiming for a publicity stunt.

Besides, I wasn't saying Cameron was an idiot for being rich, I said he was an idiot for being educated at a school that is far disconected from reality as is possible. I mean, it's even a boarding school. These Etonians grow up in a surreal environment.


That, of course, is a valid point. Despite being as Tory as Thatcher, I do not see anything of merit in Cameron.

In any case, I do agree in regard to Eton. I'm grammar school educated, and even there the teachers do their utmost to distort the perceptions of the world they create. However, boarding school is not necessarily abhorrent. It simply depends who boards.

While I'm not bothered about his family wealth, Eton is a hole. It revels in its self-imposed cultural elitism and fosters a sort of self importance that leaves a good number of its alumni giving the Chavs a run for their money in the debate over the most repulsive people in Britain.

If he's survived it with a sense of ethics and empathy genuinely intact (rather than the sort of pretense that so often accompanies those of its standing) then he gets all the credit in the world for doing so; he has accomplished a noteworthy feat. However, whether he is simply another Blair, pandering to an audience, or a genuine benefactor, still remains to be seen.


Firstly, I'd rather spend an evening with a public school doofus than a chav. Secondly, Cameron is a thinly veiled attempt by Davis, Hague and Clark to get into power, and nothing more.

Firstly, I'd rather spend an evening with a public school doofus than a chav.
It's not even about their academic prowess. Heck, I went to a public school too. It's specifically about the attitude problem of Eton alumni, of which I have met several and like none.

Neo-fascist...no I don't think so. According to this (http://politicalcompass.jpagel.net/extremeright) Labour is more right-wing than the Conservatives in 2006. See second graph.




And that (thankfully) will never happen. This is what I hate that people seem to be brainwashed that u can only vote for the two main parties. Honestly like the Dems & Repubs here the 2 main parties in the UK aren't woth used toilet paper.

As Far as Cameron I'm sure he'll d something to expose him self like Major did back in the 90's.