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Title says it all.

post here instead of learning for my exam :)

Curse the fact that Dick Cheney has taken his place.

I'd get absolutely wasted.

Then again, even if he didnt resign, I'd still get wasted. :p

Absolutely nothing. Dick Cheney, as noted earlier, is not an improvement upon the president. It will just be noted in my mind.

think to myself, hmm near the end of his final term, bit late is'nt it??

Although many may not agree with his policies, the President has done nothing to deserve the call for resignation. War us a necessary evil, and domestically he hasn't much harmed the American people..

DONT EVEN SUGGEST IT!

the thought of dick cheney as president for the next 2 years is horrifying.

Title says it all.

I'd start looking for a reasonable VP replacement for Cheney so we could get started on impeaching his ass.

I would probably stock up on Holy Water. :)

the President has done nothing to deserve the call for resignation. War us a necessary evil, and domestically he hasn't much harmed the American people..
Brace yourself...

Agh that'd be terrible. First off, Cheney'd resign right away. I know I've heard him somewhere saying that under no conditions would he ever become president. That would mean he'd resign, and then we'd get..... PELOSI..... NOOOOOO! Cheney would've been terrible too (and we'd invade Iran), but, anything but Pelosi! haha

I would probably stock up on Holy Water. :)

What about garlic, stakes, etc.? ;)

"Smack myself," 'cause it wouldn't make sense.. :p The amount of wasted time naming new cabinet members and sending Cheney to diplomatic lunches at this point would make half-assing the last few years a better and more efficient option..

Say "yippie" for about a second, then move to Canada until Cheyney is out of office.

What about garlic, stakes, etc.? ;)

You can't be too careful. :)

You can't be too careful. :)

True. ;)

I would shoot guns in the air in rabid merryment. One of the bullets would fall and hit Cheney as he gets into his car. Dead. Then I would shoot some more and join an orgy of... ermmm. After that I would be too drunk to remember. :D

DONT EVEN SUGGEST IT!

the thought of dick cheney as president for the next 2 years is horrifying.

your luck he start world war three by shooting someone on a hunting trip

Well, there are grounds to impeach the president and several key members of his administration on grounds of criminal conspiracy to commit fraud against the people of the United States. The intelligence used to justify Operation Iraqi Freedom was clearly false or flawed and yet it was used anyway to justify the war. Organizing to provide false information to convince people to make a dangerous investment that proved unsuccessful? Fraud. Of course, it's not going to happen, but from a purely legal standpoint, it's possible and valid. Of course, Scooter Libby is starting to drag some big names down with him in the Valerie Plame case.

Well, there are grounds to impeach the president and several key members of his administration on grounds of criminal conspiracy to commit fraud against the people of the United States. The intelligence used to justify Operation Iraqi Freedom was clearly false or flawed and yet it was used anyway to justify the war. Organizing to provide false information to convince people to make a dangerous investment that proved unsuccessful? Fraud. Of course, it's not going to happen, but from a purely legal standpoint, it's possible and valid. Of course, Scooter Libby is starting to drag some big names down with him in the Valerie Plame case.

Criminal conspiracy to commit fraud against the people of the United States implies the President was aware of flawed intelligence sources from around the world. The British, French, German, and Israeli intelligence agencies all came to the same conclusion: that Iraq has weapons of Mass Destruction. This is the same intelligence used in 1998 when then President Bill Clinton authorized the bombing of Iraq with stated purpose- to remove weapons of mass destruction.

Any thought process ending in the call for impeachment of the President based on flawed intelligence reports that were beyond his control is pure conspiracy theory...

Then again, even if he didnt resign, I'd still get wasted. :p

So, every time GWB doesn't resign, you get wasted? You party animal you. :cool:

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Is an extraordinary election an option in the US ...?

I voted 7 of course, the 'oh noes, Cheney' option.

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Any thought process ending in the call for impeachment of the President based on flawed intelligence reports that were beyond his control is pure conspiracy theory...

Conspiracy theory already? Should be corrollary of Reductio ad Hitlerum to cover that.

Criminal conspiracy to commit fraud against the people of the United States implies the President was aware of flawed intelligence sources from around the world. The British, French, German, and Israeli intelligence agencies all came to the same conclusion: that Iraq has weapons of Mass Destruction. This is the same intelligence used in 1998 when then President Bill Clinton authorized the bombing of Iraq with stated purpose- to remove weapons of mass destruction.

Any thought process ending in the call for impeachment of the President based on flawed intelligence reports that were beyond his control is pure conspiracy theory...

Not quite, but thanks for playing anyway.

Of course, we wouldn't have to deal with Dick for long. The heart attacks would do him in pretty quick. Then we'd have Nancy Pelosi, and I'm not sure if that's good or bad...

Scooter Libby is starting to drag some big names down with him in the Valerie Plame case.

not to go off subject, but I wonder how the outcome of the Scooter Libby trial will affect people, it seems it is more of a he said, she said thing... WIth Libby and Tim Russert pointing fingers at each other, no way to prove either is lying.. but that's just my guess. your thought?

not to go off subject, but I wonder how the outcome of the Scooter Libby trial will affect people, it seems it is more of a he said, she said thing... WIth Libby and Tim Russert pointing fingers at each other, no way to prove either is lying.. but that's just my guess. your thought?
If it were just "he said/he said" that would be one thing, but Fitzgerald has a much stronger case than that.

Not quite, but thanks for playing anyway.

Beat me to it. :p

Not quite, but thanks for playing anyway.

you can't just blurb that sentence...feel free to elaborate and tell us all exactly how it happened...

Beat me to it. :p

Hey, I beat both of you to it! :(

you can't just blurb that sentence...feel free to elaborate and tell us all exactly how it happened...

No. If you're still believing the big lie this long after it's been debunked, then you're too addled to believe anything else I could put out here. Inform yourself--it's your duty as a member of the fucking human race.

Hey, I beat both of you to it! :(

*checks*

That you did.

*gives NH a comforting pat on the shoulder and a large freshly baked cookie*

No. If you're still believing the big lie this long after it's been debunked, then you're too addled to believe anything else I could put out here. Inform yourself--it's your duty as a member of the fucking human race.


Please debunk the following quote:

Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike

CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

your luck he start world war three by shooting someone on a hunting trip

and the joke would start....

dick cheney, vladmir putin and Hu Jintao walk into a duck blind...

Please debunk the following quote:

Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike

CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Okay--I bolded too much. The big lie is the sentence before that one. But what does it tell you that the Bush administration was depending on information that was 4 years old in order to make their decisions? And I'm not even going to get into the cherry-picking and stove-piping that the OSP did with previously debunked intel. No--you continue to believe that everyone saw the same intel and came to the same conclusion if you want to. Line up over there with the young earth creationists and the global warming skeptics in the mockery corner.

and the joke would start....

dick cheney, vladmir putin and Hu Jintao walk into a duck blind...

But Osama ducked.

Yuk yuk yuk.

No. If you're still believing the big lie this long after it's been debunked, then you're too addled to believe anything else I could put out here. Inform yourself--it's your duty as a member of the fucking human race.

Okay--I bolded too much. The big lie is the sentence before that one. But what does it tell you that the Bush administration was depending on information that was 4 years old in order to make their decisions? And I'm not even going to get into the cherry-picking and stove-piping that the OSP did with previously debunked intel. No--you continue to believe that everyone saw the same intel and came to the same conclusion if you want to. Line up over there with the young earth creationists and the global warming skeptics in the mockery corner.

translation: Anyone who disagrees with your views has a closed mind, and can't possibly be sane.. Thus, although there is no proof of such, you are convinced the President of the US had access to some intelligence information indicating Iraq didnt in fact have any WMD, that none of the other intelligence services were privvy to, nor were the members of Congress serving on any intel subcommittees? Just making sure you are speaking clearly..

translation: Anyone who disagrees with your views has a closed mind, and can't possibly be sane.. Thus, although there is no proof of such, you are convinced the President of the US had access to some intelligence information indicating Iraq didnt in fact have any WMD, that none of the other intelligence services were privvy to, nor were the members of Congress serving on any intel subcommittees? Just making sure you are speaking clearly..

Translation: I insult people who don't agree with me.

translation: Anyone who disagrees with your views has a closed mind, and can't possibly be sane.. Thus, although there is no proof of such, you are convinced the President of the US had access to some intelligence information indicating Iraq didnt in fact have any WMD, that none of the other intelligence services were privvy to, nor were the members of Congress serving on any intel subcommittees? Just making sure you are speaking clearly..Translation: I'm a fucking moron who hasn't paid any attention to the WMD story for the last four fucking years and still believes that Bush was betrayed by his intelligence agencies.

When you've read all the various reports that have come out over the last four years and think you have a case come back. On second hand, don't. Or do you think that everyone else in this thread who made essentially the same original comment I did is somehow mistaken?

Probably check myself into rehab. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKSHdjov9Y&NR)

Probably check myself into rehab. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKSHdjov9Y&NR)

i loved that one

Translation: I'm a fucking moron who hasn't paid any attention to the WMD story for the last four fucking years and still believes that Bush was betrayed by his intelligence agencies.

When you've read all the various reports that have come out over the last four years and think you have a case come back. On second hand, don't. Or do you think that everyone else in this thread who made essentially the same original comment I did is somehow mistaken?

I think you just made my point for me... Very elitist point of view- anyone who doesn't agree with you is obviously not only mistaken, but an idiot, and should leave and not come back... some people cant have a debate without being attacking to others. Guess that's one way to end the debate.

and the joke would start....

dick cheney, vladmir putin and Hu Jintao walk into a duck blind...

and would end in a bad way

I would frickin' scream because Dick Cheney would become President, then calm down after I realized he wouldn't last a day with that heart of his, then scream in sheer terror as I then realized Nancy Pelosi was President.

Then celebrate anyway.

I think the poll is very accurate. The only way I would want GW to resign is if they did a Nixon-Agnew and Cheney went first.

So, every time GWB doesn't resign, you get wasted? You party animal you. :cool:

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Is an extraordinary election an option in the US ...?

I voted 7 of course, the 'oh noes, Cheney' option.

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Conspiracy theory already? Should be corrollary of Reductio ad Hitlerum to cover that.


What can I say? I <3 cheap booze. :fluffle:

I think you just made my point for me... Very elitist point of view- anyone who doesn't agree with you is obviously not only mistaken, but an idiot, and should leave and not come back... some people cant have a debate without being attacking to others. Guess that's one way to end the debate.

If this were the first time this "debate" has been covered on this site, you'd have a point. If it were even the fiftieth, you might still have a point. But this debate has been a part of these forums for the last four years. We argued over it when Bush was pushing toward war, we argued over it when the WMD weren't found, we argued over it every fucking step of the way, so drop your fucking elitist bullshit. There is no debate anymore, because the fucking facts are in. That you haven't seen them or acknowledged them is a failing on your part, not on the situation as a whole.

and would end in a bad way

and would end with a mushroom cloud.

good thing we dont know whats in the middle.

and would end with a mushroom cloud.

good thing we dont know whats in the middle.

so true

Make sure I wasn't dreaming, come on here to double-check (I'm sure there'd immediately be a huge thread about that).

Then rain on my mother's parade by reminding her that his resignation makes Cheney president!
And enjoy the response...

One option would be to impeach Cheney first. But then Bush would nominate Rice for VP, and then she'd be president. No gain there. But it would almost be worth it just to see all of the extreme right-wingers deal with the fact that a black woman was now president.

Or, if Rice wasn't confirmed as VP before Bush exited, the Speaker of the House is next in line. That's right, President Pelosi. Lots of fun scenarios here, aren't there? :p

Smack myself to make sure I wasn't dreaming...anyway, there have been analysts stating that Cheney's influence is eroding...

Title says it all.

I'd go to a wild party. Nobody at my school likes Bush, and I like wild parties.

Probably shrug, mutte something about Cheney being VP and wander off and play putt-putt.

Although many may not agree with his policies, the President has done nothing to deserve the call for resignation.

He is partly respnsible for further destabilising the middle east and the deaths of anywhere between 400,000 and 900,000 Iraqis. He deserves far more than a call for resignation.


The British, French, German, and Israeli intelligence agencies all came to the same conclusion: that Iraq has weapons of Mass Destruction. .

I havent heard that line in some time. However -

"There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

Thats from a Prime ministers meeting (British) on the 23rd July 2002.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article387374.ece


Any thought process ending in the call for impeachment of the President based on flawed intelligence reports that were beyond his control is pure conspiracy theory....

See above. You might also explain why Bush said "The US was thinking of flying U2 reconnaissance aircraft with fighter cover over Iraq, painted in UN colours. If Saddam fired on them, he would be in breach." in light of no weapons being found by the inspection teams in Jan, 2003 during a meeting with Bliar.
http://www.channel4.com/news/special-reports/special-reports-storypage.jsp?id=1661

Hardly the idea of a man hell bent on avoiding war, is it? Especially when they discussed going to war in march, regardless of the UNs final decision one way or another.

Several things - first drink to his resignation, and then hope for both Cheney and Pelosi being caught up in the same scandal and being forced to resign. I'd also be expecting war crimes charges to be brought against the SOB.

What would you do if George W. Bush resigned the Presidency?Find someone to bring him before an international war crimes tribunal.
In fact everyone who voted for that bastard should be punished for war crimes.

Find someone to bring him before an international war crimes tribunal.
In fact everyone who voted for that bastard should be punished for war crimes.

Great minds like a stink?
;)

I'd be happy and then I'd avoid gloating about it on the forums like a good boy =)

lets put it this way. If BUSH is giving up power to get away from something, then shit is about to hit the fan.
I'd move to a nuclear bomb shelter.

lets put it this way. If BUSH is giving up power to get away from something, then shit is about to hit the fan.
I'd move to a nuclear bomb shelter.

Probably not a bad idea. :p

I would.. um..

I wouldn't do anything..

Then again, even if he didnt resign, I'd still get wasted. :p
Is it a mod thing to get wasted?
/me hopes Fris was wasted when he DEATed NL

Smoke a fatty. Pinch myself.

Rinse, repeat.

Has anyone said "shoot Cheney in order to unilaterally elect the first female US president"? Not that I would do that. Preventing what little damage he could do with less than two years left and a hostile congress and senate wouldn't be worth life in prison or the chair.

I would probably have a brief celebration with all my liberal friends, then stop as I'd realize that this made Cheney prez...

Then I'd party again, as i know Cheney could easily get impeached if he tried anything.

What would you do if George W. Bush resigned the Presidency? Quite possibly the shock would kill me, but assuming I survived I'd rush off to the nearest hospital, because there's no way in hell a sane man would experience that.

I would probably have a brief celebration with all my liberal friends, then stop as I'd realize that this made Cheney prez...

Then I'd party again, as i know Cheney could easily get impeached if he tried anything.

hell, that man's got what now, 18% approval?

hell, that man's got what now, 18% approval?

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/02-07/02-10-07/10business.htm

He's currently got 32% approval, according to this article I Googled randomly.

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/02-07/02-10-07/10business.htm

He's currently got 32% approval, according to this article I Googled randomly.

whoa, rebound

one of the good things about having bottom of the barrel approval is that you can easily become twice as popular as you were, merely by keeping your head down.

though if the msm was any good at their job, there would be something of a scandal for him going on right now. he's declared himself to be above executive orders at this point.

If George W. Bush resigned?

Oh, I'd just wonder what asshole was chosen by the ZOG to replace him.

I kid, I kid...

Title says it all.

Can you come up with something original or is that too hard for you?

Can you come up with something original or is that too hard for you?

Can you not flamebait, or is that too hard for you?