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If you ask me, I think it's more work than pleasure/play. Too many muscles to count are used during the process. A lazy man's worst nightmare, IMO. Ya gotta turn a million gears just to get the partner to even begin to climax. Not to mention, the sperm having to exhaustively travel hundreds of miles (in their POV) in a hostile alien environment just to get to a heavily defended fortress who's only weakness is a literal needle in a haystack that needs to be burrowed for hours on end in order to reach the prize inside. Plus, at the end, the stench of sweat fills the room, and the bedsheets are all messed up.

I don't see no stinkin' (no pun intended) pleasure in this!

How 'bout you guys (and gals)? Is it pleasure, or really just work?

So a guy tried to make love to his wife on a Sunday but she turns him away, saying that it's Sunday and therefore it's not apropriate to do work. (They're Catholic)

To relieve her fears, the husband goes to their parish priest to ask him to clarify. The priest says "Well, it's the act of making a baby so... I'd have to say it's work."

The husband, disgruntled, decides that a priest, who is unmarried and celibate, wouldn't really know what he's talking about anyway so he goes to a Baptist minister and asks him the same question. The minister replies "well, I'm not sure so I'd have to err on the side of caution and say it's work."

The husband, even more annoyed decides that neither of these guys knows anything and decides that he'll talk to a Rabbi, since Judaism has been around a lot longer than Christianity. The Rabbi considers the question and says "It's definitely pleasure." The husband is very pleased. "Really?" He asks. "What makes you say so?" And the Rabbi replies "Because if it were work my wife would make the maid do it..."

Depends, usually it's pleasure.

And it ain't all THAT much work.

Sure I do! I get great pleasure from seeing the man sweat!:D

As for the lazy man..well..he could be the horse.

I don't see no stinkin' (no pun intended) pleasure in this!

Never attempted it myself.. a bit too "personal" for my liking. However, I used to love going on long runs in my free time, which, though difficult and sometimes outright painful, is in my mind a pleasurable activity. In other words, pain can bring joy.. :p

What is it with all the 'I'm not getting laid' threads these days? It's almost as bad as the timewarps.

What is it with all the 'I'm not getting laid' threads these days?

Valentine's Day.

What is it with all the 'I'm not getting laid' threads these days? It's almost as bad as the timewarps.

It's a forum

Valentine's Day.
Ah, but of course. Nothing like a consumerist spendfest to drive daggers through my heart.
Never attempted it myself.. a bit too "personal" for my liking. However, I used to love going on long runs in my free time, which, though difficult and sometimes outright painful, is in my mind a pleasurable activity. In other words, pain can bring joy.. :p

Yep. Ditto me and hiking/climbing.

It's more of a mental satisfaction than physical pleasure. However, the more work I put into it (no pun intended) the better I feel afterwards. The noises are funny to the point of laughing during. :p

I would say it is more of an artform than work, unless of course you are struggling to conceive, then the monotony of performing on a schedule may seem like work...

It's really an adaptation of Star Wars.

If you ask me, I think it's more work than pleasure/play. Too many muscles to count are used during the process. A lazy man's worst nightmare, IMO. Ya gotta turn a million gears just to get the partner to even begin to climax. Not to mention, the sperm having to exhaustively travel hundreds of miles (in their POV) in a hostile alien environment just to get to a heavily defended fortress who's only weakness is a literal needle in a haystack that needs to be burrowed for hours on end in order to reach the prize inside. Plus, at the end, the stench of sweat fills the room, and the bedsheets are all messed up.

I don't see no stinkin' (no pun intended) pleasure in this!

How 'bout you guys (and gals)? Is it pleasure, or really just work?
it has to be pleasure... if it was work, then I would've had to do it to the point I was sick of it.

Umm...Plutonian, no offense but you aren't going to get much agreement, especially given you're a virgin.

Never attempted it myself.. a bit too "personal" for my liking. However, I used to love going on long runs in my free time, which, though difficult and sometimes outright painful, is in my mind a pleasurable activity. In other words, pain can bring joy.. :p

As we dance to the masochism tango, dun dun.

As we dance to the masochism tango, dun dun.

That's more an instance of psychological pleasure outweighing physical pain.. so it'd probably be wrong to call it masochism.. after all, you're doing an activity with the expectation that you will be made happier than you were beforehand.. it's thin line, though. :p

That's more an instance of psychological pleasure outweighing physical pain.. so it'd probably be wrong to call it masochism.. after all, you're doing an activity with the expectation that you will be made happier than you were beforehand.. it's thin line, though. :p

It's a Tom Lehrer song. And you said it hurt, yet you felt it was pleasuable. That's masochism, basically.

It's a Tom Lehrer song. And you said it hurt, yet you felt it was pleasuable. That's masochism, basically.

Ah, didn't catch the reference. In any case, it's still hedonism to me, since the sole purpose is pleasure of some kind. :)

Art is probably the most apt word to describe it.

Art is supposed to create an emotional response in someone. Poor art elicits little or no response, good art makes you feel something familiar, and the best art makes you feel something you've never felt before. Then, every so often there is a masterpiece. An epiphany. A piece of art that resonates deeply despite not having the words to adequately describe why.

Sex is very much the same. There is lousy sex, there is good sex, great sex, and every so often there is a true sexual epiphany. Both take work, practice, pain-staking attention to detail, and a true love for your art. Both are worth it in the end.

Yes, sex is work. It is also pleasure. And yet, it is also so much more!

Ah, didn't catch the reference. In any case, it's still hedonism to me, since the sole purpose is pleasure of some kind. :)

Ah. Whatever works, I suppose. Though some might consider masochists being whipped or similar hedonism, since they're seeking pleasure.

pleasure......although I am a woman, so whatever.

If you ask me, I think it's more work than pleasure/play. Too many muscles to count are used during the process. A lazy man's worst nightmare, IMO. Ya gotta turn a million gears just to get the partner to even begin to climax. Not to mention, the sperm having to exhaustively travel hundreds of miles (in their POV) in a hostile alien environment just to get to a heavily defended fortress who's only weakness is a literal needle in a haystack that needs to be burrowed for hours on end in order to reach the prize inside. Plus, at the end, the stench of sweat fills the room, and the bedsheets are all messed up.

I don't see no stinkin' (no pun intended) pleasure in this!

How 'bout you guys (and gals)? Is it pleasure, or really just work?

I happen to like working. And I happen to like this particular workload quite a bit...

pleasure......although I am a woman, so whatever.

What? Everyone knows woman are incapable of deriving pleasure from sex!

:D

I manage to enjoy it.

i've found the process much easier if you just give her the money at the start:p

Yes, sex is work.
Ok, thanks.

Now I'm proud to be a virgin! :D

I never regarded it as work... seems a strange description.
It's fun, fun, fun,fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, ... oh, and fun!!!

What? Everyone knows woman are incapable of deriving pleasure from sex!

:D

Nah, we just pretend all the time... :p

As a hardcore Slacker, I put everything on the scale of Effort vs. Reward.

And often I make the mistake of misreading the measurement on that and thinking the Effort is way too much for the Reward.

But that's only because I forget how kick ass the Reward is. And it's not even just the sex, which is totally kick ass, but all the non-sex time as well.

Why can't it be both?

If you ask me, I think it's more work than pleasure/play. Too many muscles to count are used during the process. A lazy man's worst nightmare, IMO. Ya gotta turn a million gears just to get the partner to even begin to climax. Not to mention, the sperm having to exhaustively travel hundreds of miles (in their POV) in a hostile alien environment just to get to a heavily defended fortress who's only weakness is a literal needle in a haystack that needs to be burrowed for hours on end in order to reach the prize inside. Plus, at the end, the stench of sweat fills the room, and the bedsheets are all messed up.

Stupidity.

Intercourse: Work

Oral sex: Pleasure

*nod*

Stupidity.
Prove it. :p

Prove it. :p

A virgin commenting on how sex is more work than pleasure. QED.

If you ask me, I think it's more work than pleasure/play. Too many muscles to count are used during the process. A lazy man's worst nightmare, IMO. Ya gotta turn a million gears just to get the partner to even begin to climax. Not to mention, the sperm having to exhaustively travel hundreds of miles (in their POV) in a hostile alien environment just to get to a heavily defended fortress who's only weakness is a literal needle in a haystack that needs to be burrowed for hours on end in order to reach the prize inside. Plus, at the end, the stench of sweat fills the room, and the bedsheets are all messed up.

I don't see no stinkin' (no pun intended) pleasure in this!

How 'bout you guys (and gals)? Is it pleasure, or really just work?

:rolleyes:

Emo. Quit crying sour grapes.

A virgin commenting on how sex is more work than pleasure. QED.
Because sex IS more work than pleasure. n00b. :p

As we dance to the masochism tango, dun dun.

Tom Lehrer, FTW! Nice quote.

Art is probably the most apt word to describe it.

Art is supposed to create an emotional response in someone. Poor art elicits little or no response, good art makes you feel something familiar, and the best art makes you feel something you've never felt before. Then, every so often there is a masterpiece. An epiphany. A piece of art that resonates deeply despite not having the words to adequately describe why.

Sex is very much the same. There is lousy sex, there is good sex, great sex, and every so often there is a true sexual epiphany. Both take work, practice, pain-staking attention to detail, and a true love for your art. Both are worth it in the end.

Yes, sex is work. It is also pleasure. And yet, it is also so much more!

*applauds*

Brilliantly put.

And like art, you'll go farther out of your way/pay more the better the sex is...keeping in mind that there are more ways to pay than money....

Because sex IS more work than pleasure. n00b. :p

And you, a virgin, somehow know this through psychic powers or voices in your head or something.

Your anti-sex agenda has been clear for some time now.

http://www.icanhascheezburger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/2001819576783355739_rs.jpg

This says it all.

Because sex IS more work than pleasure. n00b. :p

Despite your (inflated) post count, you calling ANYONE, let alone Ifreann, a n00b is laughably inept.

http://www.icanhascheezburger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/2001819576783355739_rs.jpg

This says it all.

Awwww

*feels urge to cuddle with the kitten*

Because sex IS more work than pleasure. n00b. :p

And you would know how?

If you ask me, I think it's more work than pleasure/play. Too many muscles to count are used during the process. A lazy man's worst nightmare, IMO. Ya gotta turn a million gears just to get the partner to even begin to climax. Not to mention, the sperm having to exhaustively travel hundreds of miles (in their POV) in a hostile alien environment just to get to a heavily defended fortress who's only weakness is a literal needle in a haystack that needs to be burrowed for hours on end in order to reach the prize inside. Plus, at the end, the stench of sweat fills the room, and the bedsheets are all messed up.

I don't see no stinkin' (no pun intended) pleasure in this!

How 'bout you guys (and gals)? Is it pleasure, or really just work?
http://www.oleswanson.com/images/office/failure.jpg

*pins Golden Badge of Self-Denial on OP*

Isn't work essentially whatever you don't want to do? :p

Ok, thanks.

Now I'm proud to be a virgin! :D

I almost feel sorry for you on account of how thoroughly you have deluded yourself. Most people need another, more talented individual to con them out of something enjoyable... Few possess the level of confusion or shear stupidity to do it to themselves. Quite the accomplishment.

Of course, it's probably not that great of a loss. Such an uninspired individual as yourself would probably be pretty much shit at sex anyway.

I'm paid to get laid.

I'm paid to get laid.
You're a whore?

You're a whore?

In a sense..

Sex isn't work cuz I don't get paid for it.

Sex isn't work cuz I don't get paid for it.
good thinkin'

Let the bitch do the work, I always say.

Damn, why does he keep calling ME bitch?

Ok, thanks.

Now I'm proud to be a virgin! :D

don't knock it till you tried it!

i'd say sometimes it's work sometimes play

i have this routine with my gf, one night it's for her the next for me then for her again, works well but means you spend half the nights doin work but i get to try out all my weird fetishes on my nights so all is well:D

don't knock it till you tried it!

i'd say sometimes it's work sometimes play

i have this routine with my gf, one night it's for her the next for me then for her again, works well but means you spend half the nights doin work but i get to try out all my weird fetishes on my nights so all is well:D

we play that too......it seems to work out fine.

If you ask me, I think it's more work than pleasure/play. Too many muscles to count are used during the process. A lazy man's worst nightmare, IMO. Ya gotta turn a million gears just to get the partner to even begin to climax. Not to mention, the sperm having to exhaustively travel hundreds of miles (in their POV) in a hostile alien environment just to get to a heavily defended fortress who's only weakness is a literal needle in a haystack that needs to be burrowed for hours on end in order to reach the prize inside. Plus, at the end, the stench of sweat fills the room, and the bedsheets are all messed up.

I don't see no stinkin' (no pun intended) pleasure in this!

How 'bout you guys (and gals)? Is it pleasure, or really just work?

getting oral requires little to no effort. certain positions for men require little to no work(i.e cowgirl). So your notion that sex is more work than fun is deeply misguided and sounds as if you haven't actually done anything.

Despite your (inflated) post count, you calling ANYONE, let alone Ifreann, a n00b is laughably inept.

I think he was joking. Also look, he has almost as many posts as Ifreann, and has been here longer.

Does anyone else think we need to set up a fund to buy Plutonian a hooker? Or a mail-order bride? Or something?

I think he was joking. Also look, he has almost as many posts as Ifreann, and has been here longer.
Ya, I was joking. Sorry for the confusion
Does anyone else think we need to set up a fund to buy Plutonian a hooker? Or a mail-order bride? Or something?
:eek:

*runs away as fast as fucking possible*

getting oral requires little to no effort. certain positions for men require little to no work(i.e cowboy). So your notion that sex is more work than fun is deeply misguided and sounds as if you haven't actually done anything.

Umm...I think you mean cowgirl. I'm not even sure cowboy is a position.

*runs away as fast as fucking possible*

Come on! Buy a mail order bride! It's 25% off for every 25% off!

:eek:

*runs away as fast as fucking possible*

i reckon you get some strange sexual satisfaction from hating women and pushing them away from you so much

either that or you were molested as a child:p


YOU JUST GOT FREUDED!!!!!


oh and you can just sit there and tell the hooker she's a selfish whore/bitch for an hour etc if ya want, i don't think it would cost much

lolz, yes you are correct. A slight error on my part. Should be noted I imagine cowboy is a position if you are doing it with another man. Makes sense, no?

I don't speculate.

Umm...I think you mean cowgirl. I'm not even sure cowboy is a position.

lolz, yes you are correct. A slight error on my part. Should be noted I imagine cowboy is a position if you are doing it with another man. Makes sense, no?

If you ask me, I think it's more work than pleasure/play. Too many muscles to count are used during the process. A lazy man's worst nightmare, IMO. Ya gotta turn a million gears just to get the partner to even begin to climax. Not to mention, the sperm having to exhaustively travel hundreds of miles (in their POV) in a hostile alien environment just to get to a heavily defended fortress who's only weakness is a literal needle in a haystack that needs to be burrowed for hours on end in order to reach the prize inside. Plus, at the end, the stench of sweat fills the room, and the bedsheets are all messed up.

I don't see no stinkin' (no pun intended) pleasure in this!

How 'bout you guys (and gals)? Is it pleasure, or really just work?
2 things.
1) Gal on top
2) Not giving a stuff if she enjoys it.

That solves some of your problems.;)

2 things.
1) Gal on top
2) Not giving a stuff if she enjoys it.

That solves some of your problems.;)
Lol. "Some". Lol. :p

It is only work when you are not in the mood and are just doing it to please your partner – even then calling it ‘work’ is a bit much. Really great sex should leave you completely exhausted and count as an aerobic workout. Then there is the cuddly sex, which can be really nice, which takes hardly any exertion whatsoever. Even cuddly sex gets your heart going because it is exciting. If doing it entirely for your partners benefit then it can be seen more as a sport, but it isn't work – scoring with orgasms rather than putting a ball in a net, or if more musically inclined, playing a piece of music on your favorite instrument (trying to get it to hit the right notes). Any way you look at it, it isn't work.

If you think it is just work, then don’t do it. If you are not enjoying sex, something is wrong and you really need to find out what that is before saying sex isn't enjoyable.

You could have a hormone deficiency leaving you without a libido.
Perhaps you need to reevaluate your sexuality - you might be gay or have a fetish.
Ask yourself what you find sexually exciting; be completely open-minded and honest.
It could be an emotional thing – you just need someone you have feelings for rather than any random warm body to get you excited.

It could be because the only concept of sex you have is from porn, which is obviously a bad source. I will make an exception for Tristan Taormino’s stuff, she does really good work. If you’ve not seen any of her films, you should look her up as she is one of the best directors out there (IMHO, but I’m a bit biased).

oh and you can just sit there and tell the hooker she's a selfish whore/bitch for an hour etc if ya want, i don't think it would cost much

Lolz.

If you ask me, I think it's more work than pleasure/play. Too many muscles to count are used during the process. A lazy man's worst nightmare, IMO. Ya gotta turn a million gears just to get the partner to even begin to climax. Not to mention, the sperm having to exhaustively travel hundreds of miles (in their POV) in a hostile alien environment just to get to a heavily defended fortress who's only weakness is a literal needle in a haystack that needs to be burrowed for hours on end in order to reach the prize inside. Plus, at the end, the stench of sweat fills the room, and the bedsheets are all messed up.

I don't see no stinkin' (no pun intended) pleasure in this!

How 'bout you guys (and gals)? Is it pleasure, or really just work?
Classic virgin perspective.

Sorry that "feminazis" are ruining your chances of having sex, mate, but hopefully one day you'll better yourself, and find a nice female to make love with.

And then you'll say "hmm, actually, I [i]can/i] see why people are into this!"

I don't speculate.

I wouldn't either.

If you ask me, I think it's more work than pleasure/play. Too many muscles to count are used during the process. A lazy man's worst nightmare, IMO. Ya gotta turn a million gears just to get the partner to even begin to climax. Not to mention, the sperm having to exhaustively travel hundreds of miles (in their POV) in a hostile alien environment just to get to a heavily defended fortress who's only weakness is a literal needle in a haystack that needs to be burrowed for hours on end in order to reach the prize inside. Plus, at the end, the stench of sweat fills the room, and the bedsheets are all messed up.

I don't see no stinkin' (no pun intended) pleasure in this!

How 'bout you guys (and gals)? Is it pleasure, or really just work?

.....

I so hope you're joking.

getting oral requires little to no effort. certain positions for men require little to no work(i.e cowgirl). So your notion that sex is more work than fun is deeply misguided and sounds as if you haven't actually done anything.

I thought this is against your religion?

Umm...I think you mean cowgirl. I'm not even sure cowboy is a position.

lazy boy is amuch better unisex name for it, or is that a different position altogether?

as much as i hate to admit it, i'm not an expert on these things:(

.....

I so hope you're joking.

I think he just doesn't know what he's talking about ;)

.....

I so hope you're joking.
Nope. ^_^

As a man, I can attest that sex is nothing but work. Its boring as hell, and every time I do it, I wonder about all the other things I could be doing...like eating, sleeping, or reading.

The only reason I even do it is for my partner. Other than that its a boring and unfulfilling experience.

I thought this is against your religion?

You still believe he actually believes in the religion as he claims to?

Being a girl and capable of multiple orgasms, I'm going to say that sex is pleasure...

As a man, I can attest that sex is nothing but work. Its boring as hell, and every time I do it, I wonder about all the other things I could be doing...like eating, sleeping, or reading.

The only reason I even do it is for my partner. Other than that its a boring and unfulfilling experience.

http://www.icanhascheezburger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/2001819576783355739_rs.jpg

How did you even get a partner anyway? :confused:

Being a girl and capable of multiple orgasms, I'm going to say that sex is pleasure...

i hope your not implying men can't have multiples orgasms!

i've done it and i'm a man, it just takes alot more effort

but if a woman knows singapore kiss the man peaks for like 6 seconds on average, thats a super orgasm that no women can get :D(that i know of, plz tell me if ya know how)

i hope your not implying men can't have multiples orgasms!

i've done it and i'm a man, it just takes alot more effort

but if a woman knows singapore kiss the man peaks for like 6 seconds on average, thats a super orgasm that no women can get :D(that i know of, plz tell me if ya know how)
Ok, well, when you can have dozens in half an hour, then we'll compare quantity of orgasms.

I've also heard that G-Spot orgasms are fairly intense, I've never had one so I don't know for sure.

But what on earth is singapore kiss?

but if a woman knows singapore kiss the man peaks for like 6 seconds on average, thats a super orgasm that no women can get :D(that i know of, plz tell me if ya know how)

Interesting... never heard of it before, I have to admit. But it does sound like something I want to learn.
Thanks for the tip ;)

Ok, well, when you can have dozens in half an hour, then we'll compare quantity of orgasms.

I've also heard that G-Spot orgasms are fairly intense, I've never had one so I don't know for sure.

But what on earth is singapore kiss?

I think I can safely link to this. (http://www.themuse.ca/view.php?aid=39594)

And G-spot orgasms are.... well, fairly intense doesn't come anywhere near describing them. And they're constant, for half an hour straight. Or until I tell him to stop because I'm too close to fainting. Or until I actually faint (yes, it happened once. Now I know when to cry "Stop!")

Nope. ^_^
With as much experience of walking on the moon as you do of having sex, I can 'reliably' say that the whole ten-times less gravity thing is all lies, and it's the most piss easy thing in the universe, and you can even do it without your spacesuit on, because it's surprisingly warm.

I think I can safely link to this. (http://www.themuse.ca/view.php?aid=39594)
Really? I wasn't aware that there was a name for that...

I do that a little sometimes, I had no idea it was such a big issue, I've only received a couple of comments about it and no one has indicated whether it's good or bad...

And G-spot orgasms are.... well, fairly intense doesn't come anywhere near describing them. And they're constant, for half an hour straight. Or until I tell him to stop because I'm too close to fainting. Or until I actually faint (yes, it happened once. Now I know when to cry "Stop!")
I should probably get my guy to do that...

Really? I wasn't aware that there was a name for that...

I do that a little sometimes, I had no idea it was such a big issue, I've only received a couple of comments about it and no one has indicated whether it's good or bad...


I know I did it almost unvoluntarily once, and my boyfriend really liked it. But at the time I wasn't even sure what exactly I was doing at the time.
I think it's like with most things : Practice makes perfect :D

And G-spot orgasms are.... well, fairly intense doesn't come anywhere near describing them. And they're constant, for half an hour straight. Or until I tell him to stop because I'm too close to fainting. Or until I actually faint (yes, it happened once. Now I know when to cry "Stop!")

;)

In fairness, guys can experience multiple orgasms in an hour.

I think I can safely link to this. (http://www.themuse.ca/view.php?aid=39594)

And G-spot orgasms are.... well, fairly intense doesn't come anywhere near describing them. And they're constant, for half an hour straight. Or until I tell him to stop because I'm too close to fainting. Or until I actually faint (yes, it happened once. Now I know when to cry "Stop!")

I can personally attest to this being true. Using just my tongue and two fingers I've given my girlfriend orgasms so powerful she had to pull me up by my hair and her legs were still shaking four hours later. "Fairly intense" is a vast understatement.

http://www.icanhascheezburger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/2001819576783355739_rs.jpg

How did you even get a partner anyway? :confused:

Everyone, I'd just like to apologize for when I posted this picture the first time a few weeks ago.

Everyone, I'd just like to apologize for when I posted this picture the first time a few weeks ago.

Why? It's a cute kitty...

Why? It's a cute kitty...

Yeah, but it's getting posted a lot.


Also, I'm surprised no one's commenting on me saying guys can experience multiple orgasms in a half hour. It seems like that's the kind of thing that would get agreed with or denied pretty quickly.

Its a type of work thats pleasurable with employee benefits.

Yeah, but it's getting posted a lot.


Also, I'm surprised no one's commenting on me saying guys can experience multiple orgasms in a half hour. It seems like that's the kind of thing that would get agreed with or denied pretty quickly.

Well, I haven't met one yet who could, but that doesn't mean there aren't guys who can...

Well, I haven't met one yet who could, but that doesn't mean there aren't guys who can...

*Whistles innocently* :D

*Whistles innocently* :D

I honestly don't see that as something to strive for. I exercise my PC muscles specifically so that I can delay my own orgasm. 20 minutes for the first being a comfortable minimum, 45+ being ideal. The second I sort of let happen when it happens... For me, the "objective" of sex is to give my partner as many orgasms as possible, even at the expense of my own. Even so, it isn’t that great of a sacrifice if you consider that delaying your own orgasm usually only makes it more powerful when it does come.

So, what’s the rush?

I honestly don't see that as something to strive for. I exercise my PC muscles specifically so that I can delay my own orgasm. 20 minutes for the first being a comfortable minimum, 45+ being ideal. The second I sort of let happen when it happens... For me, the "objective" of sex is to give my partner as many orgasms as possible, even at the expense of my own. Even so, it isn’t that great of a sacrifice if you consider that delaying your own orgasm usually only makes it more powerful when it does come.

So, what’s the rush?

Hmm, that must be the male perspective of things... I find that mine get more and more intense the more I have.

Hmm, that must be the male perspective of things... I find that mine get more and more intense the more I have.

That is usually the case, which is precisely why I try to delay my own. The longer I go, the more orgasms my partner has (and thus, more intense), and the more powerful my own orgasm is in the end.

For me, it's pretty much a win/win situation. Plus, I’m a young guy, it doesn't take that long to start over again.

Umm...I think you mean cowgirl. I'm not even sure cowboy is a position.

Ask Fass....:D

I almost feel sorry for you on account of how thoroughly you have deluded yourself. Most people need another, more talented individual to con them out of something enjoyable... Few possess the level of confusion or shear stupidity to do it to themselves. Quite the accomplishment.

Of course, it's probably not that great of a loss. Such an uninspired individual as yourself would probably be pretty much shit at sex anyway.

Best...comeback...ever.

it is a lot of work, but to me there's no question its worth it for all that fun :D

I thought this is against your religion?

what is?

what is?

Cocksucking. Well, oral sex. But any excuse to put "cocksucking" in my posts.

Sex is work. It's energy transferred by force.

If you ask me, I think it's more work than pleasure/play. Too many muscles to count are used during the process. A lazy man's worst nightmare, IMO. Ya gotta turn a million gears just to get the partner to even begin to climax. Not to mention, the sperm having to exhaustively travel hundreds of miles (in their POV) in a hostile alien environment just to get to a heavily defended fortress who's only weakness is a literal needle in a haystack that needs to be burrowed for hours on end in order to reach the prize inside. Plus, at the end, the stench of sweat fills the room, and the bedsheets are all messed up.

I don't see no stinkin' (no pun intended) pleasure in this!

How 'bout you guys (and gals)? Is it pleasure, or really just work?

you must be hot to even think that way..lol

i stole that from platoon,,,you must be rich to think that way..lol

If sex is work to you guys, then I suggest finding new ways to make it fun. Costumes are alot fun. My cowboy hat makes me feel like I'm conquering the wild west. The asshole can also be a very interesting thing to play with.

both of course

both of course
Ja.

Sex is work. It's energy transferred by force.

Smartass. :p

In truth, I've been waiting for someone to bitchslap this foo' with Physics. Good job.

Best...comeback...ever.

Eh, thanks! I'll be here all week.

As a man, I can attest that sex is nothing but work. Its boring as hell, and every time I do it, I wonder about all the other things I could be doing...like eating, sleeping, or reading.

The only reason I even do it is for my partner. Other than that its a boring and unfulfilling experience.

Then one assumes you're doing it wrong.

You can't really be doing it wrong but he does need to have his partner satisfy him

Many people have already expressed the idea that if you find sex to be nothing but work, you probably are doing it wrong.

I'd take it a step further: if your work does not give you pleasure, you need new work. :D

Many people have already expressed the idea that if you find sex to be nothing but work, you probably are doing it wrong.

I'd take it a step further: if your work does not give you pleasure, you need new work. :D

Bottle wins, and not for the first time.

Cocksucking. Well, oral sex. But any excuse to put "cocksucking" in my posts.

oral sex is not haraam. within a marriage of course.

How 'bout you guys (and gals)? Is it pleasure, or really just work?I also paint 1:72 scale plastic soldiers. Sometimes 24 a piece. It's a lot of work, but a lot of fun. The sense of accomplishment is what makes it fun. Same with sex ;)

oral sex is not haraam. within a marriage of course.

I just looked that up......and it appears that you are right, as long as the act doesn't "lead to releasing semen"........so, not much fun right? although you aren't married, so how would you know?

I just looked that up......and it appears that you are right, as long as the act doesn't "lead to releasing semen"........so, not much fun right? although you aren't married, so how would you know?

meh, some folks enjoy the feeling of getting but not releasing *shrug*

meh, some folks enjoy the feeling of getting but not releasing *shrug*

I just wonder what they term as "semen" does pre-cum count?

as I finished reading the article on it I came upon the conclusion which says

In conclusion, it has become clear now that oral sex is not prohibited, but it is not the normal choice for committed Muslims and Muslimahs. That's, despite that oral sex is not Haram, it is completely disgusting and does not conform to the pure taste and decency of a Muslim personality.

http://www.islamonline.com/cgi-bin/news_service/fatwah_story.asp?service_id=318

Wow!

Always a pleasure, never a chore!:)

I just looked that up......and it appears that you are right, as long as the act doesn't "lead to releasing semen"........so, not much fun right? although you aren't married, so how would you know?

I used to drink and gamble before I converted. Do you see what I'm getting at?

Sex isn't work if you do it right. If it's work, you're either really kinky or really doing something wrong.

Turning your brain off to get up for sex is the hard part. That can be work, if you can work at relaxing and letting go. Getting everything in position is a bit of work. Sex is the reward for all that work. And it can be a pretty good reward.

I used to drink and gamble before I converted. Do you see what I'm getting at?

I do, but I wonder how much you are trying to keep your old lifestyle.... and just rationalize it.

I used to drink and gamble before I converted. Do you see what I'm getting at?

yeah.

You used to be fun.

Why do work and pleasure have to be mutually exclusive. Technically anything that demands the expenditure of energy and / or concentration can be considered work. The fact that you enjoy it does not make it "not work" :)

Sorry, I couldn't resist, but I think this may have something to do with why sex is work and no pleasure:

http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/4058/womenn3ju4.jpg

Its not that hard to please a woman, it just takes practice and a little time.

and, once again, how would you know that?

and, once again, how would you know that?

Some of us are women. Some of us have pleased women. Some of us fall into neither category but still understand a whole lot.

Just because you've never done it doesn't mean that no-one has. ;)

Some of us are women. Some of us have pleased women. Some of us fall into neither category but still understand a whole lot.

Just because you've never done it doesn't mean that no-one has. ;)

Hi, the person I was quoting is an admitted virgin. Thus, considering my comment was directed at HIM, it was perfectly reasonable to question how someone who ADMITS TO NEVER HAVING SEX would know anything about it.

Do try to keep up, k?

Hi, the person I was quoting is an admitted virgin. Thus, considering my comment was directed at HIM, it was perfectly reasonable to question how someone who ADMITS TO NEVER HAVING SEX would know anything about it.

Do try to keep up, k?

Where exactly does he admit to virginity? I'm sorry, I'm a bit lazy right now, so just link me.

Where exactly does he admit to virginity? I'm sorry, I'm a bit lazy right now, so just link me.

page 2 of this thread, post #26. Go fetch.

Then kindly take efforts to know what you're talking about BEFORE you try and insult me, alright?

Ok, thanks.

Now I'm proud to be a virgin! :D

Heads up:

The Plutonian Empire =/= LiberationFrequency. Both posted at the same time.

TPE posted a picture; LF posted an assertion. You responded to what sounded like an assertion, so I assumed you were quoting LF rather than TPE.

Next time maybe quote the post you're responding to, to avoid confusion like this.

And I wasn't insulting you, the wink smilie should have made evident that I was joking. Seriously, people couldn't understand my sarcasm without smilies, so I started using smilies and they still don't understand. >.< What am I doing wrong?

Most guys are very simple.
Most women are very complicated.
I have known women who have never had an orgasm.
I have yet to meet (or even hear of) a man who couldn’t (without serious medical problems).
Everyone is different but it does tend to work out this way.

Getting a guy off is usually very easy. Thus it doesn’t take all that much effort or concentration. Getting some girls off however… that is a totally different story.

While there are some girls that can orgasm from the briefest touch (which is not as much fun as it sounds – makes sex close to impossible), some require a lot of sensations of fairly specific types with necessary variations in speed, direction, pressure, position of the moon, conjunction of the planets, etc.

There is one girl with an obscenely specific need – two fingers in very specific spots with specific pressure, and a tongue going in a counter-clockwise (clockwise won’t work) circle within a very narrow range of speed and a pressure constantly changing in concert with her breathing. This has to be maintained for approximately 45 min – if your tongue gets tired and slows or are not quick enough to match the pressure changes (or misjudge the appropriate pressure) you have to start all over again.

*That* is work. On general principle I will no longer date anyone with that kind of need. I love pleasing my partner, but that gets really tiresome really fast. I’m willing to do the 45 min every now and then but not if it takes so much concentration that it kills any mood so thoroughly that even morning after sex is questionable.

Yes, I’m a selfish bastard.

Most guys are very simple.
Most women are very complicated.


Yes we are.

I love being a woman.:p


*That*[/b] is work. On general principle I will no longer date anyone with that kind of need. I love pleasing my partner, but that gets really tiresome really fast. I’m willing to do the 45 min every now and then but not if it takes so much concentration that it kills any mood so thoroughly that even morning after sex is questionable.

Yes, I’m a selfish bastard.

A good vibrator works. Even the "needy" women respond very well to that. Especially when your partner is doing it. So if you happen to miss weeding out the complicated ones and end up with a needy woman..try that.;)

Yes we are.

I love being a woman.:p

A good vibrator works. Even the "needy" women respond very well to that. Especially when your partner is doing it. So if you happen to miss weeding out the complicated ones and end up with a needy woman..try that.;)

Oh believe me, been there done that. My own toy collection is pretty good, but not the best, so I sought out help - tried toys of every sort. One of the benefits to having the friends I do and being in the industry we're in is anything imaginable can be had pretty easily. What I described was the one and only way to get her to orgasm - the sensations of the two fingers and tongue had to be absolutely precise. A vibrator or anything else was just "distracting".



Which reminds me of my favorite t-shirt.

On the front: Batteries are for flashlights.

On the back: Team Hitachi. (with a silhouette of the magic wand).

Sorry, I couldn't resist, but I think this may have something to do with why sex is work and no pleasure:

That's cold. :p

Wow!

Always a pleasure, never a chore!:)

Except when you do it
With a whore!

See? Poetry:

Wow! Sex!
Always a pleasure
Never a chore!
Except when you do it
With a whore!

Except when you do it
With a whore!

See? Poetry:

Wow! Sex!
Always a pleasure
Never a chore!
Except when you do it
With a whore!

Your poetry scares me.