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A "stronger, better, safer" Canada

Evil Cantadia
10-02-2007, 00:27
So here (http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/media.asp?id=1523) is the Harper government's agenda for the coming year in power.

Notice that the environment is still an afterthought (not a top priority) and is heavily qualified by other considerations (jobs and standard of living). The same goes for the throne speech (http://www.sft-ddt.gc.ca/default_e.htm).

Need I point out that one of the best ways of "strengthening Canada's global image" would be to live up to our international environmental commitments, and that a high standard of living is actually dependent on a healthy environment, and not opposed to it?

Similarly, Minister Flaherty claims that the three priorities in the budget remain the three E's: environment, economy and education, but:

“We're an emerging energy superpower in the world and we're going to make sure on the environmental side that we're going to act in a constructive way looking at the long term and not just the moment and making sure that we preserve jobs in Canada.”

Aside from the fact that the environment was not in any way a priority in the last budget, this sounds suspiciously like a short-term focus (jobs) and not a long-term focus (issues like global warming).

So when will this government wake up to the environmental threats we are facing?
Arrkendommer
10-02-2007, 00:50
So here (http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/media.asp?id=1523)
So when will this government wake up to the environmental threats we are facing?

WHen ot's too late.
The Pacifist Womble
10-02-2007, 01:01
The current party that's in power in Canada has it's heartland of support in the oil-selling province of Alberta, right? They won't do anything that the oil business might construe as "harming their jobs and revenues" which means they will probably do very little.
The Infinite Dunes
10-02-2007, 01:18
Here is a my agenda for Canada if I'm elected.

I will work for a Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger Canada

I propose to do this by -
Working It Harder Making It Better
Doing It Faster, Makeing Us stronger
More Than Ever Hour After
Our Work Is Never Over!
*ahem* >_>
Dinaverg
10-02-2007, 02:07
Here is a my agenda for Canada if I'm elected.

I will work for a Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger Canada

I propose to do this by -
Working It Harder Making It Better
Doing It Faster, Makeing Us stronger
More Than Ever Hour After
Our Work Is Never Over!
*ahem* >_>

I'm liking the reference, a lot, but it makes no sense.
Vetalia
10-02-2007, 02:09
Isn't environmental protection related to raising living standards?

A polluted, devastated environment doesn't really fall in to my idea of a high standard of living...
The Infinite Dunes
10-02-2007, 02:12
I'm liking the reference, a lot, but it makes no sense.I saw stronger and better. Thought of the song, which I promptly started listening to and then ripped the only comprehensible lyrics out of the song and adjusted the verbs into present tense.
Dinaverg
10-02-2007, 02:15
I saw stronger and better. Thought of the song, which I promptly started listening to and then ripped the only comprehensible lyrics out of the song and adjusted the verbs into present tense.

I realize, but in meaning, it makes no sense. It's tangentally linked in the words stronger and better, that's about it.
The Infinite Dunes
10-02-2007, 02:23
I realize, but in meaning, it makes no sense. It's tangentally linked in the words stronger and better, that's about it.Not really most manifestoes only ever state what they wish to achieve, and invariably never how they will achieve such goals - 'We are for better state schools and our oppenents are obviously not!'.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
10-02-2007, 02:32
I'm liking the reference, a lot, but it makes no sense.
I think its funny that a song reference only vaguely connected to the OP is getting a more thorough and lengthy discussion than the speech that the thread was created to discuss is getting.
Even in threads about Canada, the Canadians can't help but be upstaged.
Socialist Pyrates
10-02-2007, 04:12
So here (http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/media.asp?id=1523) is the Harper government's agenda for the coming year in power.

Notice that the environment is still an afterthought (not a top priority) and is heavily qualified by other considerations (jobs and standard of living). The same goes for the throne speech (http://www.sft-ddt.gc.ca/default_e.htm).

Need I point out that one of the best ways of "strengthening Canada's global image" would be to live up to our international environmental commitments, and that a high standard of living is actually dependent on a healthy environment, and not opposed to it?

Similarly, Minister Flaherty claims that the three priorities in the budget remain the three E's: environment, economy and education, but:

“We're an emerging energy superpower in the world and we're going to make sure on the environmental side that we're going to act in a constructive way looking at the long term and not just the moment and making sure that we preserve jobs in Canada.”

Aside from the fact that the environment was not in any way a priority in the last budget, this sounds suspiciously like a short-term focus (jobs) and not a long-term focus (issues like global warming).

So when will this government wake up to the environmental threats we are facing?

Harpers sudden environmental concern is a sham, six months ago climate change science was a socialist scheme to steal our money, Harper was climate change denier. The conservatives disdain for the ecology was obvious during their first year in office, a few opinion polls go by and suddenly the conservatives are green saviors of Canada. Of course they were green along:rolleyes:
Mikesburg
10-02-2007, 05:40
Harpers sudden environmental concern is a sham, six months ago climate change science was a socialist scheme to steal our money, Harper was climate change denier. The conservatives disdain for the ecology was obvious during their first year in office, a few opinion polls go by and suddenly the conservatives are green saviors of Canada. Of course they were green along:rolleyes:

I'm kind of waiting to see the specifics of Harper's environmental plans. At least they're honest on the point that they're not going to throw out Alberta's economic boom without some sort of solid plan. It's easy for the Liberals to promise a green vision, even if they didn't really practice what they preached while in power.

That being said, it's patently obvious that the environment is only on the agenda because they realize it may cost them the election. But that's democracy in action, ain't it?

In regards to the 'socialist scheme' comment; that was clearly a comment made 5 years ago, and not six months ago. I realize it doesn't make him a fuzzy centralist all of a sudden, but you are trying to take something from his economist past and plastering it on his current PM persona.