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Who has the best music?

Zilam
09-02-2007, 15:22
Which country currently has the best music scene. Like, for music in general, that is.
Epic Fusion
09-02-2007, 15:23
scandinavian and nordic countries, no doubt about it

synphony metal FTW!
Ifreann
09-02-2007, 15:23
Any country that doesn't have a version of Pop Idol.
The Potato Factory
09-02-2007, 15:26
European techno, trance and house.
German Nightmare
09-02-2007, 15:26
I do. :D
Vorlich
09-02-2007, 15:28
britain me thinks

the view, cold war kids, amy winehouse, jamie t....

all sexy just now.
Letila
09-02-2007, 15:28
Vienna! Mozart, Beethoven, and Haydn for the win. Actually I don't know.
German Nightmare
09-02-2007, 15:32
European techno, trance and house.
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Zilam
09-02-2007, 15:35
http://risorse.giovani.it/files/gallery/smiley_e_faccine/icone/tn_vomit.gif

stole the uh...words right out of my mouth :p
Similization
09-02-2007, 15:36
scandinavian and nordic countries, no doubt about it

synphony metal FTW!And they rule the crust scene as well. And Sweden's got a great Oi! Scene too. My pick though, is the Czech Republic. Amazing underground music scene, and not just punk & Oi! but everything imaginatbe/unimaginable.
Delator
09-02-2007, 15:37
scandinavian and nordic countries, no doubt about it

synphony metal FTW!

Agreed! :D

Any country that doesn't have a version of Pop Idol.

So...Senegal and Uruguay then? :p
Infinite Revolution
09-02-2007, 15:37
couldn't possibly say, haven't been keeping up with new music in the last few months, and the scenes change so quick it's impossible to stay in the loop if you stop paying attention. i miss having the time to devote to listening to the radio :(
German Nightmare
09-02-2007, 16:01
Vienna! Mozart, Beethoven, and Haydn for the win. Actually I don't know.
Beethoven ain't Austrian - he's German!
stole the uh...words right out of my mouth :p
;)
Greater Valia
09-02-2007, 16:27
Which country currently has the best music scene. Like, for music in general, that is.

For all time, I'd pick a tie between the US and UK. Current scene I'd say either Europe, or South America.
Dishonorable Scum
09-02-2007, 16:32
Well, I personally have been a fan of Canadian music, particularly from Nova Scotia, for some time. But my tastes in music are shared by a small minority, so I don't really expect anyone else to agree with me. Nor do I care if anyone else agrees with me - there's little point in arguing what kind of music is "best", given that tastes differ so much.

I have also been accused of being the only person in the world who likes Danish folk music. Admittedly, I haven't heard much of it, but the two guys I did hear playing it the one time were pretty good.

:p
Rejistania
09-02-2007, 16:35
The South pacific (http://www.tevaka.com/)
Bodies Without Organs
09-02-2007, 16:41
And they rule the crust scene as well.

I'd initially associate them with d-beat before crust - has there been a Scandinavian crust explosion that I've missed?
Similization
09-02-2007, 16:54
I'd initially associate them with d-beat before crust - has there been a Scandinavian crust explosion that I've missed?You're not exactly wrong, and it's a little difficult to answer, but in a way: yes. It's been exploding continously for between 10 & 15 years, which is prolly why it's a generally a breed apart from what's found elsewhere.

The downside is that apart from Sweden, the ongoing explosion has more or less killed everything else. You can probably guess my feelings about that :p
Soyut
09-02-2007, 16:58
America! There is no contest.

Lets look at the contenders shall we: Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvanna, Elvis Presley, Micheal Jackson, OutKast, Tool, Greenday, Doobie Brothers, Muddy Waters, Rolling Stones, U2, Puddle of Mud, ect.
LiberationFrequency
09-02-2007, 17:06
LOL! You obviously know alot about music
Dishonorable Scum
09-02-2007, 17:10
America! There is no contest.

Lets look at the contenders shall we: Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvanna, Elvis Presley, Micheal Jackson, OutKast, Tool, Greenday, Doobie Brothers, Muddy Waters, Rolling Stones, U2, Puddle of Mud, ect.

Ahem...
Led Zeppelin - British
Rolling Stones - British
U2 - Irish
:rolleyes:
Greater Valia
09-02-2007, 17:13
America! There is no contest.

Lets look at the contenders shall we: Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvanna, Elvis Presley, Micheal Jackson, OutKast, Tool, Greenday, Doobie Brothers, Muddy Waters, Rolling Stones, U2, Puddle of Mud, ect.

lol
Soyut
09-02-2007, 17:28
Ahem...
Led Zeppelin - British
Rolling Stones - British
U2 - Irish
:rolleyes:

You are right. and the Beatles are British also. I still contend that America makes the best music because most of the music that I like is from america.

oh and Puddle of Mud sux, Alice in Chains would be a much better band to include
I V Stalin
09-02-2007, 17:33
You are right. and the Beatles are British also. I still contend that America makes the best music because most of the music that I like is from america.
So? Most of the music I like is made by white boys with guitars and/or computers. Does that mean that guitar-led rock or electronica are the best genres of music? Not necessarily.
Infinite Revolution
09-02-2007, 17:36
America! There is no contest.

Lets look at the contenders shall we: Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvanna, Elvis Presley, Micheal Jackson, OutKast, Tool, Greenday, Doobie Brothers, Muddy Waters, Rolling Stones, U2, Puddle of Mud, ect.

and Jimi Hendrix was part of the British scene long before his music was distributed in America. IIRC...
Bodies Without Organs
09-02-2007, 17:37
America! There is no contest.

Lets look at the contenders shall we: Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvanna, Elvis Presley, Micheal Jackson, OutKast, Tool, Greenday, Doobie Brothers, Muddy Waters, Rolling Stones, U2, Puddle of Mud, ect.

Priceless.
Extreme Ironing
09-02-2007, 18:33
In terms of Western Classical music, possibly Vienna would be the most important: the first set as someone mentioned above, and the second set being Schoenberg & co in the 1900-30s. Post-WW2 America had many of the significant developments, New York and San Franciso especially, along with the Darmstadt school in Germany and IRCAM in Paris.

In terms of Popular, I've always felt British music is slightly 'ahead' of the rest of Europe, but really, its likely people will just think that their own culture has the best music scene.
Rhursbourg
09-02-2007, 18:59
Britian just for the Folk where would music be without it
Rejistania
09-02-2007, 19:04
Actually, I wish most American music (especially 'black music' and rap) as well as British music (rock by ill-tempered drug-addicts) had the popularity it deserved (none).

A lot of good music comes from france, just browse jamendo :>
Andaluciae
09-02-2007, 19:23
The Anglophonic Powers.
The blessed Chris
09-02-2007, 19:28
I am tempted, if only due to greater familiarity, to say the UK. Not only do we have a burgeoning hardcore, metalcore, emo and scene scene (BMTH, Kids in Glass Houses, Flood of red etc), but UK indy remains both strong and inovative (Biffy Clyro, new Bloc Party etc.). Moreover, bands like Enter Shikari provide cross-genre innovation, and Hadouken and the like present an insight into the amalgam of white culture and hip-hop.

However, I do take my hat, metaphorically at any rate, off to the USA, for such bands as CIWWAF, Hit the Lights, DCFC, Avenged Sevenfold and Lupe Fiasco.
Nadkor
09-02-2007, 20:02
UK. There are some fantastic British bands about nowadays; Biffy Clyro, Mogwai, 65daysofstatic, Oceansize, People in Planes, The Go! Team, Gomez, Sucioperro, Muse, Radiohead, Orko, Elbow, Hundred Reasons, Idlewild....that's just off the top of my head. Most of the music I listen to is British, a massive change from even a couple of years ago.
Hydesland
09-02-2007, 20:05
Too hard a question.
I V Stalin
09-02-2007, 20:21
Moreover, bands like Enter Shikari provide cross-genre innovation
Maybe. It's just a pity they're shit.
Deep World
09-02-2007, 20:33
Agreed! :D



So...Senegal and Uruguay then? :p

Senegal, in case you haven't checked, has one of the most amazing music scenes anywhere. Check out the late, lamented Ali Farka Toure, one of the greatest guitarists to play in any style. Even the club/dance music there beats anything coming out of Europe or North America.

I don't know a lot about Uruguayan music, but I'm sure someone's making it...
Underdownia
09-02-2007, 20:36
Maybe. It's just a pity they're shit.

Never have truer words been said!:D
The blessed Chris
09-02-2007, 22:00
Maybe. It's just a pity they're shit.

I like them. Excellent live, and "sorry you're not a winner" is pretty damn good.
Underdownia
09-02-2007, 22:04
I like them. Excellent live, and "sorry you're not a winner" is pretty damn good.

Each to their own. To me, they seem like an average metal ban with the gimmick that they occasionally (and somewhat clumsily) throw in a bit of trance. A lot of bands do the rock/metal + dance thing a lot better IMHO.
I V Stalin
09-02-2007, 22:06
I like them. Excellent live, and "sorry you're not a winner" is pretty damn good.
Here's a story:

About 9 months ago, they played Leicester. A friend of mine, a self-confessed lover of Hundred Reasons, no less, asked me if I wanted to see them. I'd never heard of them, so I had a look online for some songs, found some, and gave them a listen.

They were whiny crap that a tramp would have been ashamed to pass out his/her arse. I told my friend such. He offered to pay for my ticket. I agreed. After all, they were apparently good live.

My view of the gig was a bunch of 15 year olds whipped into a frenzy by a decidedly average band, then chucking themselves around like it was a Hatebreed or Sick of it All gig.

The mix of post-hardcore and trance(-ish) really doesn't work. Admittedly I don't particularly like either genre to begin with, but when put together it sounds like an abomination direct from Satan's bowels.
The blessed Chris
09-02-2007, 22:07
Each to their own. To me, they seem like an average metal ban with the gimmick that they occasionally (and somewhat clumsily) throw in a bit of trance. A lot of bands do the rock/metal + dance thing a lot better IMHO.

I suppose so, I just think they do it better, and the alloy of melody, scream, thrash and rhythm is effective.
Underdownia
09-02-2007, 22:11
Here's a story:

About 9 months ago, they played Leicester. A friend of mine, a self-confessed lover of Hundred Reasons, no less, asked me if I wanted to see them. I'd never heard of them, so I had a look online for some songs, found some, and gave them a listen.

They were whiny crap that a tramp would have been ashamed to pass out his/her arse. I told my friend such. He offered to pay for my ticket. I agreed. After all, they were apparently good live.

My view of the gig was a bunch of 15 year olds whipped into a frenzy by a decidedly average band, then chucking themselves around like it was a Hatebreed or Sick of it All gig.

The mix of post-hardcore and trance(-ish) really doesn't work. Admittedly I don't particularly like either genre to begin with, but when put together it sounds like an abomination direct from Satan's bowels.

C'mon. Stop sitting on the fence. Im not quite sure where you stand on this band:D
I V Stalin
09-02-2007, 22:13
C'mon. Stop sitting on the fence. Im not quite sure where you stand on this band:D
:p

But I like fence-sitting! ;)
Isidoor
09-02-2007, 22:16
a lot of music i listen to comes from canada, but also from the USA and some from GB. europe has better electronic music though, especially germany iirc. that being said i don't give a damn where the music i listen to comes from.
The blessed Chris
09-02-2007, 22:19
Here's a story:

About 9 months ago, they played Leicester. A friend of mine, a self-confessed lover of Hundred Reasons, no less, asked me if I wanted to see them. I'd never heard of them, so I had a look online for some songs, found some, and gave them a listen.

They were whiny crap that a tramp would have been ashamed to pass out his/her arse. I told my friend such. He offered to pay for my ticket. I agreed. After all, they were apparently good live.

My view of the gig was a bunch of 15 year olds whipped into a frenzy by a decidedly average band, then chucking themselves around like it was a Hatebreed or Sick of it All gig.

The mix of post-hardcore and trance(-ish) really doesn't work. Admittedly I don't particularly like either genre to begin with, but when put together it sounds like an abomination direct from Satan's bowels.


I disagree. I'll concede I'm not a huge fan of pretentious scene kids now into "nu rave" and "emo" because its fashionable; primarily because I've been considered emo for years, and resent being seen as a fashion adhering shallow bastard. However, Enter Shikari are actually good as a live act in a small venue.

Just an opinion, but they played the Twist (I'm assuming you know this place in Colchester) and looked bloody good.
I V Stalin
09-02-2007, 22:27
I disagree. I'll concede I'm not a huge fan of pretentious scene kids now into "nu rave" and "emo" because its fashionable; primarily because I've been considered emo for years, and resent being seen as a fashion adhering shallow bastard. However, Enter Shikari are actually good as a live act in a small venue.

Just an opinion, but they played the Twist (I'm assuming you know this place in Colchester) and looked bloody good.
They're not particularly good. They're competent and sound half-decent. The problem is that the people who go to see them seem more intent on jumping around like wankers trying to injure other people than actually listening to the music. In a larger venue, this wouldn't be so much of a problem, but if 100 out of 200 people at a gig want to do that, it's difficult to enjoy the band because you're trying to avoid fists and feet.

And the band fucking encourage them. You wonder if any of them have even hear the term 'mosh etiquette' let alone know what it is.
Boceifus
09-02-2007, 22:31
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Luporum
09-02-2007, 22:40
Scandanavia metal bands ftw.
American rap/r&b ftw.
Austrailian Dingerydo solos ftepicw.
Harlesburg
09-02-2007, 22:44
Probably America or England.
Callisdrun
09-02-2007, 22:59
Scandinavian metal. No doubt about it.