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Play's Controversial Title Leads To Complaints, Change

ATLANTIC BEACH, Fla. -- A modified marquee in Atlantic Beach has been drawing some attention. "Hoohaa" replaced a word in the title of a play after a driver complained about finding the previous wording offensive.

The marquis for Atlantic Theaters advertises a number of plays including, the Masquerade Ball, Band Jam, and now The Hoohaa Monologues. Some said hoohaa is a strange word and that its definition depends on its context, while others said it sounds like a country band. However, it's not a band at all. In fact, most people know hoohah by a different name -- vagina.

"We got a complaint about this play The Vagina Monologues," said Bryce Pfanenstiel, of the Atlantic Theater. The Hoohah Monologues is a replacement title for The Vagina Monologues -- a well-known play about that part of the female body.

"We decided we would just use child slang for it. That's how we decided on Hoohah Monologues," Pfanenstiel said. They did this after a driver who saw it complained to the theater, saying she was upset that her niece saw it.

"I'm on the phone and asked 'What did you tell her?' She's like, 'I'm offended I had to answer the question,'" Pfanenstiel said.

Some parents said they applaud the title change. The theater said they're trying not to offend anyone, but the publicity doesn't hurt. "We hope people understand we're trying to do the right thing. But as far as doing it for attention, we're a comedy club, we do all kinds of shenanigans," Pfanenstiel said.

The play is being brought to the theater by a group of law school students and all of the proceeds are going to various charity organizations. The director of the play said she was going ask the theater and comedy club to return the title back to its original name.

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I don't. :mad:

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I love puritanism... it's so entertaining. :D

Who the hell calls it "hoohaa"? But yeah, I do love it when people get all bent out of shape over the human body.

Way to inadvertently accentuate the importance of that play...

And seriously? Are we offended by 'vagina'? It's not called the "Hot Pussy Monologues, or **** Stories. It's a vagina. It's not a dirty word, it's a part of the body. Are those parents teaching their children to be ashamed of their vaginas? (aaannnd we're back to the importance of that play...)

And the decision to change? One person complained? One whole person? I could see, maybe, if it was a deluge of people, but one uptight freak and they change it? (granted, I get the feeling that they are making fun of her more than they are capitulating, but still...)

Way to inadvertently accentuate the importance of that play...

And seriously? Are we offended by 'vagina'? It's not called the "Hot Pussy Monologues, or **** Stories. It's a vagina. It's not a dirty word, it's a part of the body. Are those parents teaching their children to be ashamed of their vaginas? (aaannnd we're back to the importance of that play...)

And the decision to change? One person complained? One whole person? I could see, maybe, if it was a deluge of people, but one uptight freak and they change it? (granted, I get the feeling that they are making fun of her more than they are capitulating, but still...)

Really.

And they need to be careful, there are probably copyright issues around advertising the play under a false name.

Years ago, in Boulder, the play Grand Hotel was being put on, and there's a scene in which a character smokes a cigarette on stage for about two minutes. ZOMG! the letters to the newspaper, protests, scrambling by the theatre company, signs in the lobby warning patrons about the insidious tobacco smoke, it was amazing! And legally they couldn't cut the scene.

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I love puritanism... it's so entertaining. :D

Oh noes! I might have to tell my niece the name of one of her body parts! The tragedy! The horror!

Really.

And they need to be careful, there are probably copyright issues around advertising the play under a false name.

Years ago, in Boulder, the play Grand Hotel was being put on, and there's a scene in which a character smokes a cigarette on stage for about two minutes. ZOMG! the letters to the newspaper, protests, scrambling by the theatre company, signs in the lobby warning patrons about the insidious tobacco smoke, it was amazing! And legally they couldn't cut the scene.

It's the greatest thing about being a playwright. Unlike screenwriters, who sold themselves down the river for money upfront, playwrights retain absolute control over the words on the page, you can't change them (it happens, it's just not supposed to).

The cigarette warning is common. There are herbal cigarettes that actors smoke so it's not tobacco. The great part is that they smell like weed, so on closing night there is a 50/50 chance that they will be smoking weed (I've been on productions where that's happened. The tech crew is almost always chocked full of stoners so all of a sudden over the headphones it's, "That motherfucker, that's weed.

He better pass that shit around when he gets off stage..."

It's the greatest thing about being a playwright. Unlike screenwriters, who sold themselves down the river for money upfront, playwrights retain absolute control over the words on the page, you can't change them (it happens, it's just not supposed to).

The cigarette warning is common. There are herbal cigarettes that actors smoke so it's not tobacco. The great part is that they smell like weed, so on closing night there is a 50/50 chance that they will be smoking weed (I've been on productions where that's happened. The tech crew is almost always chocked full of stoners so all of a sudden over the headphones it's, "That motherfucker, that's weed.

He better pass that shit around when he gets off stage..."

They wait 'til closing night?

They wait 'til closing night?

Just in case someone in tech sells them out.

good grief I didn't even think "hoohaa" was actually in use. I heard Cartman's mom use it on South Park but I thought they'd made it up on the show...

What about "The Coochie Chronicles?" How does that sound? :p

I'm offended I had to answer the question

"...at the same time i'm offended by the existence of sex ed classes in school. why do we even have to mention such things ever anyway?"

What about "The Coochie Chronicles?" How does that sound? :p

The Poontang Ponderings?

The Poontang Ponderings?

We should go with a word this woman probably uses for that area. Maybe, "The Teetee Tales"??

It's not called the "Hot Pussy Monologues, or **** Stories.

though i bet such a thing would do pretty well

We should go with a word this woman probably uses for that area. Maybe, "The Teetee Tales"??

But people then may confuse that for breasts!

"...at the same time i'm offended by the existence of sex ed classes in school. why do we even have to mention such things ever anyway?"

Er, reread it.

But people then may confuse that for breasts!

:confused: Someone calls boobies teetees? :eek:

The Muff Monologues?

The Muff Monologues?

The Beaver Bedtime Stories?

though i bet such a thing would do pretty well

With a very different demographic...

They did this after a driver who saw it complained to the theater, saying she was upset that her niece saw it.
I know some one whose niece is going to be a single teen mom.

:headbang:

You know, I've never used this smiley before, but I'm having trouble articulating any more coherent response to the sheer idiocy (and irony) of this story.

:headbang:

You know, I've never used this smiley before, but I'm having trouble articulating any more coherent response to the sheer idiocy (and irony) of this story.

And the most ironic part is that by changing the name to "Hooha Monologues" they will actually realize what part of the body it is referring to because with the sort of idiotic indignation being shown by these people, it is obvious that they have never told their kids what a vagina even is. It might as well have been the Flippity-floo Stories.

And the decision to change? One person complained? One whole person? I could see, maybe, if it was a deluge of people, but one uptight freak and they change it? (granted, I get the feeling that they are making fun of her more than they are capitulating, but still...)

Over here stuff like this happens a lot when only one person complains. Sometimes there's no complaint at all.

Really.

And they need to be careful, there are probably copyright issues around advertising the play under a false name.

Years ago, in Boulder, the play Grand Hotel was being put on, and there's a scene in which a character smokes a cigarette on stage for about two minutes. ZOMG! the letters to the newspaper, protests, scrambling by the theatre company, signs in the lobby warning patrons about the insidious tobacco smoke, it was amazing! And legally they couldn't cut the scene.

i reckon it's fair enough to put signs up warning that there is going to be cigarette smoke. some people are allergic to it or have severe asthma. it's just as reasonable as expecting warnings to be put on food that contain nuts or gluten really. my friends put on a production of the rope a couple of years ago at the fringe and there's several scenes involving smoking in that. they were told they had to put warning signs in the lobby of the venue, it didn't hurt them anything seeing as i paid for the photocopying - all of 50 pence. having said that, mass protests about it a pretty stupid, a quiet word to the priducers would have done.

but obviously this "hoohaa" hoohaa is ridiculous. stupid prudes, i guess they don't realise they are making fools out of themselves by complaining about this.

Er, reread it.

for why?

but obviously this "hoohaa" hoohaa is ridiculous. stupid prudes, i guess they don't realise they are making fools out of themselves by complaining about this.

No, they really don't. They're usually people who have been so well indocrinated to believe that sex is a dirty mystery act that they can't imagine someone being open about having the sex organs God gave them and having *gasp* a healthy sense of themselves as a sexual person.

Aww...why not the "C*nt Monologues" or the "Pussy Monologues" or some similar name.

:(

i'm pretty sure that these sorts of problems can only be overcome by public mockery.

no more anonymous complaints about seeing correct anatomical names (or anatomy itself in most cases) - you complain, we put your name on the local news 'point and laugh' segment.

i'm pretty sure that these sorts of problems can only be overcome by public mockery.

no more anonymous complaints about seeing correct anatomical names (or anatomy itself in most cases) - you complain, we put your name on the local news 'point and laugh' segment.

I'm good with this plan.

Am I the only one who thought this thread was going to be about Al Pacino?

Am I the only one who thought this thread was going to be about Al Pacino?

Er...yes.

I have never understood how a reference to a body part can be inappropriate.

i'm pretty sure that these sorts of problems can only be overcome by public mockery.

no more anonymous complaints about seeing correct anatomical names (or anatomy itself in most cases) - you complain, we put your name on the local news 'point and laugh' segment.

absolutely, i think it could work for all sorts of things. like those KKK klowns or anyone else who is wont to flaunt their ignorance. i think ridicule is the only thing that'd get through their iron plated skulls. if everyone just burst out laughing in their faces everytime they showed up they'd soon shut up.

I have never understood how a reference to a body part can be inappropriate.

Depends on context. THE VAGINA MONOLOGUES is pretty neutral, whereas if the play had been called GIANT WANG, more people would be having a problem.

Depends on context. THE VAGINA MONOLOGUES is pretty neutral, whereas if the play had been called GIANT WANG, more people would be having a problem.

THE PENIS MONOLOGUES would be just about the most boring script ever. "mmm... boobies..... mmmm.... pussssyyyy..... mmm nice arse.... and on and on and on and on... etc. etc. etc.... ad infinitum... etc" :D

the penis monologues would be just about the most boring script ever. "mmm... boobies..... mmmm.... pussssyyyy..... mmm nice arse.... and on and on and on and on... etc. etc. etc.... ad infinitum... etc."

Well, duh. We'd have to edit it out. You didn't think an actual vagina wrote the vagina monologues did you? No one wants to read "cockcockcockbabiescockowcramps", now do they? I mean, obvious we aren't talking about the unfiltered thoughts of the sex organ here.

Well, duh. We'd have to edit it out. You didn't think an actual vagina wrote the vagina monologues did you? No one wants to read "cockcockcockbabiescockowcramps", now do they? I mean, obvious we aren't talking about the unfiltered thoughts of the sex organ here.

i know, duh! 'twas a joke :p

The Muff Monologues?

The Pudenda Agenda.

i know, duh! 'twas a joke :p

I dunno...maybe we could get a vagina to write a sequel. The Vagina Monologues 2: The Second Coming.

Wait....that doesn't sound so good, given the context.

The Pudenda Agenda.

i think if we're really wanting it to be proper it should be The Front-Bottom Filibuster, everything else is just too crude.

i think if we're really wanting it to be proper it should be The Front-Bottom Filibuster, everything else is just too crude.

Hey we could go all up-market and call it The Origin Of The Word, but I don't think anybody will get it.

Hey we could go all up-market and call it The Origin Of The Word, but I don't think anybody will get it.

i guess not...

*is not sure i get it*

i'll be honest, all i know about the content of the play is what i've inferred from people's comments in this thread.

i guess not...

*is not sure i get it*

Go google "The Origin Of The World".



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Go google "The Origin Of The World".

Lol, yep! that'd work, heh!

I've never heard it called a hoohaa before. How pathetic.

This has set a precedent. From now on I am going to complain if I ever see the proper name for any body part written down on anything. Those biology book publishers aren't going to know what hit them...

This has set a precedent. From now on I am going to complain if I ever see the proper name for any body part written down on anything. Those biology book publishers aren't going to know what hit them...

Well that's A Farewell To A**s out the window then.


EDIT: Coriolan*s (http://fld.nwsuaf.edu.cn/english1000/English%20Literature/S/WILLIAM%20SHAKESPEARE(1564-1616)/CORIOLANUS.txt)

That is really funny.

Heck the VAGINA Monologues is going to be played here at my university. As far as I can tell, there are no protests, no shouting to change the name either.

It's not called the "Hot Pussy Monologues, or **** Storie

Oh but it should be :D

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Hey lady...if your kid is old enough to read, she's old enough to know what a vagina is.

And you damn well better tell her, because otherwise she's gonna find out on her own. I don't get why some of these anti-sex nutters want to NOT tell kids about sex. If sex is dirtybadwrong, then you better tell kids what it is so they will know not to do it. Otherwise you're going to walk in on your kids one day and they'll be like, "Hey Mom! We just invented a new game! It's called Hide The Pee-Pee In The Hoo-Hoo!"

There's too much hoohaa over this as it is. What was needed here is the moron Aunt should have been told to come in to the theater, where they'd compensate her for her being offended. Once she arrives, she'd get a thorough bitchslapping, told to shut up and go home.

Hey lady...if your kid is old enough to read, she's old enough to know what a vagina is.

And you damn well better tell her, because otherwise she's gonna find out on her own. I don't get why some of these anti-sex nutters want to NOT tell kids about sex. If sex is dirtybadwrong, then you better tell kids what it is so they will know not to do it. Otherwise you're going to walk in on your kids one day and they'll be like, "Hey Mom! We just invented a new game! It's called Hide The Pee-Pee In The Hoo-Hoo!"

haha.

around here it's the Hoo-haa and the Winky. pathetic I know......

my kids are the only kids under 16 who know the words penis and vulva, and apparently those are "bad words" :rolleyes: although, it's probably not a good idea to tell my kids that, because it just starts the 3 year old singing the word "penis" to the tune of "Oklahoma!"

my kids are the only kids under 16 who know the words penis and vulva, and apparently those are "bad words" :rolleyes: although, it's probably not a good idea to tell my kids that, because it just starts the 3 year old singing the word "penis" to the tune of "Oklahoma!"
I hate kids, but I luv the Smunklings. I've never even met your kids and they crack me up to no end. :D

I hate kids, but I luv the Smunklings. I've never even met your kids and they crack me up to no end. :D

They're the best kind of kids. Someone else's. You get all the amusing stories and none of the work.

They're the best kind of kids. Someone else's. You get all the amusing stories and none of the work.
I gotta admit, if I could have a guarantee that my kid would sing "penis" to the tune of Oklahoma, I might be willing to consider having one. I might even be willing to feed it from time to time, too.

I hate kids, but I luv the Smunklings. I've never even met your kids and they crack me up to no end. :D

the dog got an erection the other day (not exactly sure why) but the 3 year old all damn day told everyone we saw "my dog's penis turned inside out, but not really, he just had an erection"

:p

they aren't always so much fun......

I wanna put my weewee in her hoohaa.

the dog got an erection the other day (not exactly sure why) but the 3 year old all damn day told everyone we saw "my dog's penis turned inside out, but not really, he just had an erection"

:p

they aren't always so much fun......

Oh my. that sounds like what my kids are going to be like when I eventually spawn them. I can't wait to corrupt :D

for why?

Because the person you quoted as being offended was the one who was offended that someone actually complained about something like this.

This thread is FTW.

I just realized that the name change now makes it clear to the little kid what the monologues are about. It seems an odd thing to want, like just the proper word is what is a bother. Not that this will make sense anytime soon...
The Pudenda Agenda.
Best name so far.
Because the person you quoted as being offended was the one who was offended that someone actually complained about something like this.
No man, you're reading that wrong. Check it out-
"I'm on the phone and asked 'What did you tell her?' She's like, 'I'm offended I had to answer the question,'" Pfanenstiel said.
That's Bryce Pfanenstiel of the Atlantic Theater describing the phone conversation with the complainant. You might not be familiar with Gum Smacker, but he's saying that he was on the phone with the woman and asked the Aunt what she told her niece. The Aunt answered that she was offended to have to answer the question.

It's the "I'm (Pfanenstiel) on the phone and asked (the Aunt) 'What did you (the Aunt) tell her (the niece)?' (single quote marks for a quote within a quote) She (the Aunt) is like (responded), 'I'm (the Aunt) offended I (the Aunt) had to answer the question,'" (single quote marks again for another quote within a quote) Pfanenstiel said. (Pfanendstiel is the teller, so the "I"s outside the singe quotation marks refer to him.)

And that over explains that.

Foiled by way too many quotation marks. Well, the story makes a bit more sense now.

:rolleyes:

Vagina. Vagina. Vagina. Vagina. Vagina. Vagina. Vagina. Vagina.

It is a part of the female body. It is the proper term for that certain part, and it should not be a dirty word. And changing the wording to "childish" slang would make it easier for kids to understand. :rolleyes:

Personally, I would love to see the Al Pacino monologues...

http://www.bfi.org.uk/education/teaching/disability/images/04_history/scento.jpg

Seems like it would be good.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AML86SQ5bi0