NationStates Jolt Archive


Anti-Zionist Jews

Losing It Big TIme
07-02-2007, 02:51
I've noted a growing tendency amongst many anti-zionists on NSG to be against Jews in general and similarly pro-Israeli Government types in the forum seem to feel that any attack on Israel is anti-semitic.

SO as an anti-Zionist Jew I thought I post the following article to demonstrate that there are quite a few of us around and persuade those who wish to either attack Jews or use accusations of anti-semitistism to defend Israel to please try and think before you speak:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2005870,00.html


A group of prominent British Jews will today declare independence from the country's Jewish establishment, arguing that it puts support for Israel above the human rights of Palestinians.
Independent Jewish Voices will publish an open letter on the Guardian's Comment is Free website calling for a freer debate about the Middle East within the Jewish community. Among the more than 130 signatories are Stephen Fry, Harold Pinter, Mike Leigh, Jenny Diski and Nicole Farhi, as well as leading academics such as Eric Hobsbawm and Susie Orbach.
Gartref
07-02-2007, 03:22
I am a Pro-Zionist Non-Jew. I am also a Pro-British Empire American. I also think Chinese women are totally hot. I believe there should only be 3 Political powers on Earth:

1. The British Empire consisting of all Europe, Australasia and the Americas,
2. Israel consisting of Africa and the Middle East,
3. China gets everything else.

These 3 powers would meet triannually in a sort of "trilateral" commision to maintain a triple-awesome new world order.

The British Empire would provide the world's technology, manufacturing and biscuits. Israel would be responsible for keeping the books and making ironical remarks. China would provide the hotties and take-out food.
Greater Valia
07-02-2007, 03:24
I am a Pro-Zionist Non-Jew. I am also a Pro-British Empire American. I also think Chinese women are totally hot. I believe there should only be 3 Political powers on Earth:

1. The British Empire consisting of all Europe, Australasia and the Americas,
2. Israel consisting of Africa and the Middle East,
3. China gets everything else.


You know this sounds eerily familiar....

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/0451524934.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Neu Leonstein
07-02-2007, 03:34
Actually, this is a great radio program about the Jewish community here and its relationship with (and debate about) Israel.

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hack/notes/mp3s/isreal_question.mp3
The Parkus Empire
07-02-2007, 03:35
I've noted a growing tendency amongst many anti-zionists on NSG to be against Jews in general and similarly pro-Israeli Government types in the forum seem to feel that any attack on Israel is anti-semitic.

SO as an anti-Zionist Jew I thought I post the following article to demonstrate that there are quite a few of us around and persuade those who wish to either attack Jews or use accusations of anti-semitistism to defend Israel to please try and think before you speak:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2005870,00.html

I will not even look at this link. Why? Because it will take a lot for me to pull the "PC CARD". I do NOT belive most of those angaist Israel are anti-Semitic. Calling you that would make me, *gasp* Liberal. It's a cheap way to defend something.
That said, I am completely for Israel.
Yaltabaoth
07-02-2007, 03:43
I am a Pro-Zionist Non-Jew. I am also a Pro-British Empire American. I also think Chinese women are totally hot. I believe there should only be 3 Political powers on Earth:

1. The British Empire consisting of all Europe, Australasia and the Americas,
2. Israel consisting of Africa and the Middle East,
3. China gets everything else.

These 3 powers would meet triannually in a sort of "trilateral" commision to maintain a triple-awesome new world order.

The British Empire would provide the world's technology, manufacturing and biscuits. Israel would be responsible for keeping the books and making ironical remarks. China would provide the hotties and take-out food.

You know this sounds eerily familiar....

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/0451524934.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

I was thinking Brave New World
Gartref - aka Mustapha Mond?
Greater Valia
07-02-2007, 03:45
I was thinking Brave New World
Gartref - aka Mustapha Mond?

The three superpower thing made me think of 1984.
Greater Trostia
07-02-2007, 07:46
I think the term "self-hating Jew" was invented to label Jews who aren't Zionists as a way of maintaining the "if you oppose Israel you hate Jews" line.
Nodinia
07-02-2007, 10:06
I think the term "self-hating Jew" was invented to label Jews who aren't Zionists as a way of maintaining the "if you oppose Israel you hate Jews" line.

A classic example being where I linked a quote from some group of 'Rabbis for Peace' to be told that they were "quislings". And the person who said that was not Jewish themselves, I might add.
Newer Kiwiland
07-02-2007, 10:39
I am a Pro-Zionist Non-Jew. I am also a Pro-British Empire American. I also think Chinese women are totally hot. I believe there should only be 3 Political powers on Earth:

1. The British Empire consisting of all Europe, Australasia and the Americas,
2. Israel consisting of Africa and the Middle East,
3. China gets everything else.

These 3 powers would meet triannually in a sort of "trilateral" commision to maintain a triple-awesome new world order.

1984, definitely 1984.
United Beleriand
07-02-2007, 10:53
I've noted a growing tendency amongst many anti-zionists on NSG to be against Jews in general and similarly pro-Israeli Government types in the forum seem to feel that any attack on Israel is anti-semitic.

SO as an anti-Zionist Jew I thought I post the following article to demonstrate that there are quite a few of us around and persuade those who wish to either attack Jews or use accusations of anti-semitistism to defend Israel to please try and think before you speak:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2005870,00.html

So what would the "Jewish principles" mentioned in the article be? Surely those laid out in the Torah and subsequent writings/teachings?