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Remember the commercial with the two guys accidentally kissing over a snickers bar? The gays are up in arms about it. I can't decide wheather they have a point or they're overreacting. On one hand, one of the alternate endings to the commercial was one guy beating the other guy with a wrench, which could be seen as promoting violence against gays. On the other hand, the other alternate endings don't seem to be promoting violence and the reations of the football players to the commercial seems normal.

http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=72fdf6f1-a029-4f18-85e1-4d93899d0964&k=92010

This is stupid, it's a commercial for god's sakes.

"OMG faggot sinner!"
*Begins wailing on the other guy with a wrench*
"Burn in hell sodomist!"

They were two straight guys kissing. So it's not manly for two STRAIGHT guys to kiss. Which is why they had to do something manly. Of course, if you think ripping off chest hair is manly...well then...

I love the fact that it's compared to promoting the same kind of hate that led to Matt shepherd's death...it's hardly virulently homophobic...

Remember the commercial with the two guys accidentally kissing over a snickers bar? The gays are up in arms about it. I can't decide wheather they have a point or they're overreacting. On one hand, one of the alternate endings to the commercial was one guy beating the other guy with a wrench, which could be seen as promoting violence against gays. On the other hand, the other alternate endings don't seem to be promoting violence and the reations of the football players to the commercial seems normal.

http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=72fdf6f1-a029-4f18-85e1-4d93899d0964&k=92010

actually, the point was "quick, do something manly" and the two of em do something stupid. I.e. Ripping out chest hair, drinking oil and antifreeze, hitting one in the gut with a wrench while the other slams the hood down on the otherman's head...

It doesn't promote violence, it equates Manliness with stupidity.

The commercial is in bad taste. I'm not saying it should've been pulled, but the questions raised are definitely legitimate.

actually, the point was "quick, do something manly" and the two of em do something stupid. I.e. Ripping out chest hair, drinking oil and antifreeze, hitting one in the gut with a wrench while the other slams the hood down on the otherman's head...

It doesn't promote violence, it equates Manliness with stupidity.

that's a good point, but i very much doubt anyone else would pick up on that or that the makers of the advert intended that.

Gays are upset? Men in general ought to be upset. I will admit that I laughed at it, however.

Political correctness is very similar to the restrictions on speech imposed by a dictator. Humor is a form of entertainment and political commentary and should be free from such ridiculous scrutiny that results in such comments.

The reason that these issues still exist is because of our unwillingness to speak about them cordially. We forbid people from joking about gays, blacks, jews, or any other marginalized group unless they are a member of that group. This only promotes more negativity.

Think about things that have happened in your own life that upset you. My best friends and I make fun of each other when we get upset - eventually you'll chuckle about the things that hurt you most. Joking about things that hurt takes away the power they have over us. As long as we have people crying wolf over the most insignificant and light-hearted jokes, we will never progress socially.

Wow. I didn't even see it, obviously, but just after reading the linked article I'm going to be the party pooper and say I would have been outraged, too.

I cannot fathom how such an ad could find its way from the desk of an ad company serf through dozens of hands and executive offices onto TV without the thought that it's oh-so-nonchalantly offensive ever even crossing anybody's mind. :rolleyes:

I hate political correctness. That commercial was freaking hilarious.

The "rock-paper-scissors" one wins though for Bud Light. That and the fan made Dorito's commercials.

Absolutely distasteful commercial.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go eat a snickers bar. *nods*

actually, the point was "quick, do something manly" and the two of em do something stupid. I.e. Ripping out chest hair, drinking oil and antifreeze, hitting one in the gut with a wrench while the other slams the hood down on the otherman's head...

It doesn't promote violence, it equates Manliness with stupidity.

QFT.

I didn't mind the version that aired too very much, but I think the alternate ending involving hitting people with wrenches absolutely crosses the line. Recording NFL players recoiling in horror from the man-smooching is also colossally stupid and offensive (and illogical, to boot - you'd think a bunch of guys who spend their time jumping on top of each other and have frequently been known to engage in mutual spankings wouldn't mind the idea of hetero guys engaging in somewhat "gay" activities).

A commercial that says men are stupid, either that or eating a snickers makes you stupid.

Going to go with the latter.

and meanwhile, are these people also complaining about the "Love Boat" ending also?

I hate political correctness. That commercial was freaking hilarious.

The "rock-paper-scissors" one wins though for Bud Light. That and the fan made Dorito's commercials.

"I threw paper"
"and I threw a rock."
:D


I like the crab one better for all the bud commercials.

Oh, geeeezzz. It was funny. Political corectness is getting painful.

Oh, geeeezzz. It was funny. Political corectness is getting painful.

There is absolutely nothing funny about Snickers. Not only does it cause obesity and raise the risk of diabetes it also can turn people gay. This is no laughing matter. The children need to be protected from this stuff.

There is absolutely nothing funny about Snickers. .... it also can turn people gay. This is no laughing matter. so.. you are gay now?

There is absolutely nothing funny about Snickers. Not only does it cause obesity and raise the risk of diabetes it also can turn people gay. This is no laughing matter. The children need to be protected from this stuff.

Yeah. First I immediately sucked off the guy next to me after teh commercial, then I beat him up for being such a fag. :(

Yeah. First I immediately sucked off the guy next to me after teh commercial, then I beat him up for being such a fag. :(WUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

awesome reply. 10/10

Gays are upset? Men in general ought to be upset. I will admit that I laughed at it, however.
I agree with you.

Whatever happened to "live and let live"?

Seriously, so many things would be solved if the anal-retentive half of the human population just grew a sense of humor.

Well, from the sounds of it (i havent seen the commercial) gay people (and men in general) have a reason to be upset, but I dont think anything should be done about it. Free speech n' all.

Wait, the gays are up in arms about this? I figured all the fundies would be up in arms. Americans need to learn how to grow testicles and quit complaining about everything.

Remember the commercial with the two guys accidentally kissing over a snickers bar? The gays are up in arms about it. I can't decide wheather they have a point or they're overreacting. On one hand, one of the alternate endings to the commercial was one guy beating the other guy with a wrench, which could be seen as promoting violence against gays. On the other hand, the other alternate endings don't seem to be promoting violence and the reations of the football players to the commercial seems normal.

http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=72fdf6f1-a029-4f18-85e1-4d93899d0964&k=92010
I saw the one during the superbowl, and I actually took it as making fun of macho-man homophobia. It seemed to be poking fun at the lengths to which Dudely Dudes will go to prove that they haven't got the gay.

I saw the one during the superbowl, and I actually took it as making fun of macho-man homophobia. It seemed to be poking fun at the lengths to which Dudely Dudes will go to prove that they haven't got the gay.

Yes. And I heard on the radio that THAT reason is why the commercial has been pulled. It depicted homophobia.

Yes. And I heard on the radio that THAT reason is why the commercial has been pulled. It depicted homophobia.wait.. the commercial has been pulled?

wait.. the commercial has been pulled?


Yup.


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6446946?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=21

Yup.
hmmph..

AFAIK the only other commercial fallen to censorship (I think it was pulled in Canada an/or US)

It was an Axe style commercial.. a bunch of horny females after a young man..
After repeated protests it was changed to a One horny female chasing him.

Ok, is it me or are people actually starting to go out of their way to be angry at something, I mean my God! I've watched this commercial and the last thing I would've ever thought was "Gays = beat them up!" I mean Jesus Christ on a Bicycle! Now if they showed two guys eating Snickers, and then going to Castro Street in San Fransisco and beating up gays, then I would understand the outrage, but here, it's just unwarranted and the group is seeing a message in the commercial that isn't there.

Bottom line people, Lighten the fuck up!

"I threw paper"
"and I threw a rock."
:D


I like the crab one better for all the bud commercials.

I liked both those commercials...I wonder if the Christians are up in arms over the crab one. :rolleyes:

They're only commercials, if you don't like it then don't buy Snickers, it's that simple.

I didn't watch the Superbowl, but when the controversy started I watched it on YouTube. I thought it was homophobic, if mildly so. You're supposed to laugh at the two men... but you're also supposed to identify with them on some level. That's part of the humor, and the marketing.

That's how I took it, anyway. The joke was hardly funny, though, so even if it wasn't homophobic, it was still a rather stupid ad.

The commercial is in bad taste. I'm not saying it should've been pulled, but the questions raised are definitely legitimate.

I didn't find the ad particularly funny but I hardly saw it as offensive. You see the same sort of humor on sitcoms quite often and I don't hear people bitching about it. You know that it is mostly the media, seeing potential controversy and so they stir up trouble hoping to milk the story for all its worth. It really doesn't matter what kind of joke you make, SOMEONE out there will probably become offended. Simply the way it is. Snickers should have spit in the eye of any who have decided to whine about nothing and continued to run the ad.

You see the same sort of humor on sitcoms quite often and I don't hear people bitching about it.

Maybe you aren't listening?

Maybe you aren't listening?

Perhaps. Maybe I don't listen to enough talk radio and the like. But it is the Snickers commercial that I have noticed a particularly signifigant amount of time spent this "controversy". Keeping a story alive about an unimpressive commercial that should just be forgotten.

Perhaps. Maybe I don't listen to enough talk radio and the like.

I don't listen to talk radio, so I have no idea to what degree it pays attention to criticisms by gays of their portrayal in sitcoms and elsewhere.

But the criticisms are there.

I don't listen to talk radio, so I have no idea to what degree it pays attention to criticisms by gays of their portrayal in sitcoms and elsewhere.

But the criticisms are there.

Well, I can understand some groups issuing statements of protest but I was saying that the pure media circus that this particualar commercial has produced is seriously more talked about then any past occurance. Perhaps because it was during such a highly watched event that has kept things alive but I still believe it is the media more than anything else that keeps people talking about it. Similar instances in the past might get a 15 second sound bite but this...

Perhaps because it was during such a highly watched event that has kept things alive

That's it.

The one guy said "quick do something manly!" If the gay men would stop acting like women, maybe they wouldn't be portrayed as women. Besides, wouldn't a gay guy feel as awkward as these two guys did if he accidentally kissed a woman?

If the gay men would stop acting like women, maybe they wouldn't be portrayed as women.

What constitutes "acting like women"?

This is stupid, it's a commercial for god's sakes.

"OMG faggot sinner!"
*Begins wailing on the other guy with a wrench*
"Burn in hell sodomist!"

As much as you'd love too shit on them....I havent seen the religous right touch this one...

What constitutes "acting like women"?

This? (http://www.bravotv.com/Queer_Eye)

The one guy said "quick do something manly!" If the gay men would stop acting like women, maybe they wouldn't be portrayed as women. Besides, wouldn't a gay guy feel as awkward as these two guys did if he accidentally kissed a woman?

Umm ok, my IQ went down a little bit after reading this.

The one guy said "quick do something manly!" If the gay men would stop acting like women, maybe they wouldn't be portrayed as women. Besides, wouldn't a gay guy feel as awkward as these two guys did if he accidentally kissed a woman?

Speaking as a gay guy.. No, I wouldn't. It wouldn't sexually excite me, and it might be a little bit embarrassing (I'm naturally bashful). The only awkward part about it would be that I accidentally did something potentially intimate with someone that wasn't my significant other. We'd probably laugh and apologize, but I'd certainly not feel the need to reaffirm my sexuality, nor would the act of accidentally kissing a woman make me "feel straight."

What constitutes "acting like women"?

Sucking cock maybe? If those damn gay guys would just start banging women instead of each other they'd be a lot easier to tolerate.

Sucking cock maybe?
Now wait just a damn minute. All the traditionalists in my country have been saying for years that real women don't suck cock, because real women would never dream of engaging in "recreational" sex of any kind. Only sluts and whores and liberals engage in oral sex. To be a real woman, they tell me, I am supposed to never have any kind of sexual contact at all, other than lying passively under my lawful husband while he pumps away and I stare at the ceiling thinking about doing the dishes.


If those damn gay guys would just start banging women instead of each other they'd be a lot easier to tolerate. For you, perhaps. I'd imaging that the women being "banged" by closeted gay men would find it somewhat less tolerable. ;)

Now wait just a damn minute. All the traditionalists in my country have been saying for years that real women don't suck cock, because real women would never dream of engaging in "recreational" sex of any kind. Only sluts and whores and liberals engage in oral sex. To be a real woman, they tell me, I am supposed to never have any kind of sexual contact at all, other than lying passively under my lawful husband while he pumps away and I stare at the ceiling thinking about doing the dishes.
actually if that's what you are doing......you are doing it wrong. It's much more productive to make your grocery list. ;)

actually if that's what you are doing......you are doing it wrong. It's much more productive to make your grocery list. ;)
Zucchini, salamis, long hard baguettes...

Nope, nope, see that's the problem right there. Grocery lists lead to impure thoughts about using vegetables in Non-Jesus-Approved ways. Better for the man to make up a list for me, so that my corrupt, sinful female brain does not lead me into wickedness in the produce isle.

Zucchini, salamis, long hard baguettes...

Nope, nope, see that's the problem right there. Grocery lists lead to impure thoughts about using vegetables in Non-Jesus-Approved ways. Better for the man to make up a list for me, so that my corrupt, sinful female brain does not lead me into wickedness in the produce isle.

hmm......maybe you are right.

Now wait just a damn minute. All the traditionalists in my country have been saying for years that real women don't suck cock, because real women would never dream of engaging in "recreational" sex of any kind. Only sluts and whores and liberals engage in oral sex. To be a real woman, they tell me, I am supposed to never have any kind of sexual contact at all, other than lying passively under my lawful husband while he pumps away and I stare at the ceiling thinking about doing the dishes. Yeah, I guess Jerry Falwell is a great source for information on a healthy sex life.

For you, perhaps. I'd imaging that the women being "banged" by closeted gay men would find it somewhat less tolerable. ;)

If he's closeted well enough you wouldn't even know the difference.

Yeah, I guess Jerry Falwell is a great source for information on a healthy sex life.

Why, I do believe you may be exhibiting sarcasm! Heavens. Fetch me the smelling salts, somebody.


If he's closeted well enough you wouldn't even know the difference.
I really hate to break it to all the closet-cases but...yes, we can. Especially the hyper-manly ones. The more closeted you think you are, the easier it is for everybody else to tell.

And even when you can't tell if they're gay or not, you certainly can tell that they suck in bed. Hyper-masculinity and lousy sex skills go together like a lime and a coconut. Frankly, I'd rather sleep with an OUT gay boy than a closet case.

I liked both those commercials...I wonder if the Christians are up in arms over the crab one. :rolleyes:

They're only commercials, if you don't like it then don't buy Snickers, it's that simple.I heard that a Suicide Support Group found the GMC commercial (where the Robotic Arm got fired and committed Suicide) offensive. :rolleyes:



actually if that's what you are doing......you are doing it wrong. It's much more productive to make your grocery list. ;)Zucchini, salamis, long hard baguettes...

Nope, nope, see that's the problem right there. Grocery lists lead to impure thoughts about using vegetables in Non-Jesus-Approved ways. Better for the man to make up a list for me, so that my corrupt, sinful female brain does not lead me into wickedness in the produce isle.

Thank you for putting that image in my head...



no, really... THANK YOU! :D