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Happy Waitangi Day to all Kiwis in NSG!

Are there any celebrations going on all the way down there?

I saw that on my calendar this morning and thought, "What the fuck is that?"

Yes, I plead ignorance. :(

I don't know what it is, but it has a cool name. :D

So... does anyone know what this "Waitangi Day" is about? I have no trouble saying I am clueless.

I dunno bout you... but here in Canada, we EAT kiwis. :)

You just want someone to make a Russian reversal joke don't you? :p

I dunno bout you... but here in Canada, we EAT kiwis. :)

So... does anyone know what this "Waitangi Day" is about? I have no trouble saying I am clueless.

Wiki is your friend (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waitangi_day)

Wait a few hours, it's something like 5 or 6 AM in NZ. They'll be on to talk about it later today, doubtless.

Forget the kiwis...any Maori on board? Post pictures please.

Can't forget kiwis! But I will post a pic.

http://www.all-creatures.org/recipes/images/i-kiwi.jpg

:p

Forget the kiwis...any Maori on board? Post pictures please.

my sister's boyfriend has some maoris in his family. that's the best i can do i'm afraid. not even sure they're blood related, thinking about it. oh well, disregard.

I saw that on my calendar this morning and thought, "What the fuck is that?"

Yes, I plead ignorance. :(

Waitangi Day commemorates the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi in 1840, by which the British annexed New Zealand with the consent of (some) Maori chiefs. The Treaty is very important still today because it guaranteed essential rights to Maori, including the right of ownership of their lands (communal or individual), and full rights as British subjects.

You can read the text here (http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/politics/treaty/read-the-treaty/english-text). It's quite short.

So... does anyone know what this "Waitangi Day" is about? I have no trouble saying I am clueless.



Hold on a vauge recolection is comming....


Shipdip! That's it innit?

Come on, Kiwis! Aren't any of you online? :p

I dunno bout you... but here in Canada, we EAT kiwis. :)

The birds, the fruit, or...the people!??! :eek:




;)

Wiki is your friend (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waitangi_day)

Yes. Helpful indeed. I now know that I lose nothing in not caring about this holiday. :)

Yes. Helpful indeed. Makes me realize that I really don't care about this holiday. :)

Oh come one! Have a little respect for...*quickly clicks and skim reads wiki*...um...er...the Maori!

The birds, the fruit, or...the people!??! :eek:




;)

SOYLENT GREEN IS KIWIS!!!
What kind of kiwis?
UM...THE PEOPLE!!!
Are you serious? There's people who call themselves kiwis?
YES!
What are they, some kinda new age stoner religion?
NO!
Oh. What are they then?
PEOPLE!
What is?
SOYLENT GREEN!
*Stops chewing for a second* Really?
YES!
*Resumes chewing* Oh well, it's pretty good anyway.

Eh? Waitangi Day was yesterday. Timezones, children. This thread was started at 6.06 am on the 7th of feb..

Oh come one! Have a little respect for...*quickly clicks and skim reads wiki*...um...er...the Maori!

Can't care about other nations/peoples holidays when I can barely come up with the energy to give a damn about my own.

The Treaty of Waitangi: the British Empire at its least douchebaggiest.

The Treaty of Waitangi: the British Empire at its least douchebaggiest.

That's the truth brutha! KIWI POWER!!!

Forget the kiwis...any Maori on board? Post pictures please.
My sister is Maori, but I dont think I should randomly post pictures of her on the internet.

Everything you need to know about the Maori people (http://www.42below.co.nz/flashad/storyof42.html)

My sister is Maori, but I dont think I should randomly post pictures of her on the internet.

How is your sister Maori if you (I assume) are not?

Everything you need to know about the Maori people (http://www.42below.co.nz/flashad/storyof42.html)

What the... Sydney, New Zealand? :eek:

luckily Waitangi Day this year fell during our week of summer, so i got lightly sunburnt on my shoulders, and molested no sheep at all the whole day

For sheer good fortune, my school was closed y'day so I had the day off.
whoot!

I spent Waitangi Day by having a bonk, a nice leisurely breakfast and then went shopping for presents for people when I go back to NZ next week. Also had lunch at a great Shanghainese restaurant and ended the day with my g/f giving me a back massage.
All in all, a pretty damn good way to spend one's national day of celebration.

Eh? Waitangi Day was yesterday. Timezones, children. This thread was started at 6.06 am on the 7th of feb..

In my timezone it was still February 6th. :p

The Treaty of Waitangi: the British Empire at its least douchebaggiest

Over-simplifying, perhaps (Fijian traditional rights were a lot better protected than those of the Maori, for example; but then European colonists in Fiji never outnumbered ethnic Fijians) but essentially a fair point, yes.

Over-simplifying, perhaps (Fijian traditional rights were a lot better protected than those of the Maori, for example; but then European colonists in Fiji never outnumbered ethnic Fijians) but essentially a fair point, yes.
Considering the problems that has caused Fiji over the years, one could argue that it wasn't that good an idea.

Considering the problems that has caused Fiji over the years, one could argue that it wasn't that good an idea.

The problem in Fiji wasn't the fact that the British colonial authorities "protected" the Fijians from the settlers (in a paternalistic but well-intentioned way). The problem was that the British brought in massive numbers of Indian plantation workers (because Fijians, understandably, didn't fancy working for the settlers in their own country), until almost half the population was Indian, and then segregated the Fijians from the Indians, making no attempt to create a sense of shared national belonging. As a result, Fijian society maintained extreme ethnic polarisation, which was the direct cause of the two coups of 1987 and the 2000 coup, and a partial and indirect cause for the 2006 coup.

Incidentally, the first British governors in Fiji had in mind what had happened to the Maori in NZ, and their explicit goal was to make sure the same thing wouldn't happen in Fiji.

How is your sister Maori if you (I assume) are not?
Because we have the same mother, and her father is Maori, where-as mine is not.

Everything you need to know about the Maori people (http://www.42below.co.nz/flashad/storyof42.html)

Haha, I love the accent. :p

Amusing, yes. :D

If I remember rightly it used to say 'Made right here in Sydney, New Zealand by Russell crowe"


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SOYLENT GREEN IS KIWIS!!!
What kind of kiwis?
UM...THE PEOPLE!!!
Are you serious? There's people who call themselves kiwis?
YES!
What are they, some kinda new age stoner religion?
NO!
Oh. What are they then?
PEOPLE!
What is?
SOYLENT GREEN!
*Stops chewing for a second* Really?
YES!
*Resumes chewing* Oh well, it's pretty good anyway.

Aha. That'd explain the green flavor.

Oh, and for you aussies: here. (http://www.42below.co.nz/assets/sm/463/18/42below_fosters_edit.mov)

Happy Waitangi Day to all Kiwis in NSG!

Are there any celebrations going on all the way down there?
I always figured Demented Hamsters would start this thread...
*Wonders why he never saw this thread*

What did i do on Waitangi Day?
I slept in and then was on here a bit...

What did i do on Waitangi Day?
I slept in and then was on here a bit...

Out of curiosity, was there any kind of public hype around it?

The Treaty of Waitangi: the British Empire at its least douchebaggiest.
Largely keeping the French out and getting the power of jurisdiction to deal with criminals.
Eh? Waitangi Day was yesterday. Timezones, children. This thread was started at 6.06 am on the 7th of feb..
He speaks the truth.
For sheer good fortune, my school was closed y'day so I had the day off.
whoot!

I spent Waitangi Day by having a bonk, a nice leisurely breakfast and then went shopping for presents for people when I go back to NZ next week. Also had lunch at a great Shanghainese restaurant and ended the day with my g/f giving me a back massage.
All in all, a pretty damn good way to spend one's national day of celebration.
You should go as far South as Waiouru, visit the Army Museum and have a fool about in the tanks.
Take pictures too.;)
Out of curiosity, was there any kind of public hype around it?
Complaints about the Union Jack on the flag.
Complaints about the Flag not being the Maori flag.
Complaints about the Maori flag not being allowed up on the Auckland Harbour Bridge.

Old man on Talkback radio suggested the National day should be in September because New Zealand became a nation and/or no longer a Dominion on the 9th of September or something...
Also doesn't like Union Jack or Southern Cross.

The Navy band had to retreat from Treaty house Parade ground after a fierce assualt from the rain.

As for positive things...
Big festival in Porirua(North of Wellington) and it was Bob Marley's birthday or something.

But no real Nationalism.

What did i do on Waitangi Day?
I slept in and then was on here a bit...

In other words, the usual?

Complaints about the Union Jack on the flag.
Complaints about the Flag not being the Maori flag.
Complaints about the Maori flag not being allowed up on the Auckland Harbour Bridge.

Old man on Talkback radio suggested the National day should be in September because New Zealand became a nation and/or no longer a Dominion on the 9th of September or something...
Also doesn't like Union Jack or Southern Cross.

In other words, the usual?

We also have phases of complaining about the flag, but we never do anything about it

Complaints about the Union Jack on the flag.
Complaints about the Flag not being the Maori flag.
Complaints about the Maori flag not being allowed up on the Auckland Harbour Bridge.

Old man on Talkback radio suggested the National day should be in September because New Zealand became a nation and/or no longer a Dominion on the 9th of September or something...
Also doesn't like Union Jack or Southern Cross.

The Navy band had to retreat from Treaty house Parade ground after a fierce assualt from the rain.

As for positive things...
Big festival in Porirua(North of Wellington) and it was Bob Marley's birthday or something.

But no real Nationalism.

Interesting. Thanks!

You should go as far South as Waiouru, visit the Army Museum and have a fool about in the tanks.
Take pictures too.;)
Well, I'm planning on getting down to Turangi, but not Waiouru. I'm only there for 10 days and my parents live in Kaitaia, so it's just not enough time to get everywhere.
My plan is:
Auckland for 2 nights (Piha & Muriwai)
Then Raglan, the Mount, Rotorua, Turangi (a mate has a bach there) for a couple of nights, then head up to Whangarei for Oceans Beach and Tutukaka then finally Mangonui - Matai Bay - Kaitaia and Shippies/Ninety Mile. On the way down Rawene, Opo, Waipoua forest and Kaipara Harbour.

Care to guess what we might be doing a lot of?

Well, I'm planning on getting down to Turangi, but not Waiouru. I'm only there for 10 days and my parents live in Kaitaia, so it's just not enough time to get everywhere.
My plan is:
Auckland for 2 nights (Piha & Muriwai)
Then Raglan, the Mount, Rotorua, Turangi (a mate has a bach there) for a couple of nights, then head up to Whangarei for Oceans Beach and Tutukaka then finally Mangonui - Matai Bay - Kaitaia and Shippies/Ninety Mile. On the way down Rawene, Opo, Waipoua forest and Kaipara Harbour.

Care to guess what we might be doing a lot of?
Boinking on the beach?
Auckland is so bleh.
In other words, the usual?
I think i was kind of sad about the Cricket too.
In other words, the usual?

We also have phases of complaining about the flag, but we never do anything about it
Yeah except violence was down, however we are averaging a Homicide every 4 days which is high, last year it was fatalities at work which were abnormally high...
Interesting. Thanks!
And strangely no violence.

I think i was kind of sad about the Cricket too.
In other words, the usual?

It was a pity you lost, the captain wasn't taking enough risks in my opinion. Probably because he wanted his century.

NZ should become part of Australia imo.

[snippage]
My plan is:
Auckland for 2 nights (Piha & Muriwai)
Then Raglan, the Mount, Rotorua, Turangi (a mate has a bach there) for a
Yay, Muriwai is my favourite place in the whole world, I dont get out there nearly enough!:D

NZ should become part of Australia imo.
New Zealand should absolutely not become part of Australia, nor should Australia become part of New Zealand IMO.

NZ should become part of Australia imo.
I was under the impression they hated each other.

I was under the impression they hated each other.

I think so, "sheep-shagger" gets thrown back and forth a lot.

NZ should become part of Australia imo.

I think we'd both prefer to remain separate.

I was under the impression they hated each other.

I wouldn't say hate. It's a fierce rivalry, but for the most part it's friendly enough.

I wouldn't say hate. It's a fierce rivalry, but for the most part it's friendly enough.


It's generally a sporting based rivalry anyway. It's funny, run into an aussie in Europe and he's suddenly your best mate.

If I remember rightly it used to say 'Made right here in Sydney, New Zealand by Russell crowe"


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The brits (http://www.42below.com/flashad/britain/)
Celebrities (http://www.42below.com/flashad/celebrity/)
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I have no fucking clue what this (http://www.42below.com/callcentre/) one is about though.

Those ads are ixcillint. :D

NZ should become part of Australia imo.

It actually was, once. It was legally under the jurisdiction of New South Wales, very briefly.


It's generally a sporting based rivalry anyway.

I was on a Qantas flight from Sydney to Auckland a few hours before Australia played New Zealand in the last Rugby World Cup. As we were coming in to land, the captain wished everyone a pleasant stay, and concluded with:

"Commiserations in advance to any All Black fans back there." :D

I think we'd both prefer to remain separate.
I think you are correct.



I wouldn't say hate. It's a fierce rivalry, but for the most part it's friendly enough.
And again, I agree. To me it's kind of akin to siblings, we can hassle the Aussies, call them names, make them the punch lines of our jokes and give them a bit of hard time just as they can to us and no one really takes it askance. But were some third country to try the same antics with either of us, that'd just be rude.:D
Further (as kind of indicated by an earlier poster), when NZers and Aussies meet up outside of NZ and Oz, it's more like long lost siblings reuniting than genuine rivals crossing paths.

There was, however, a New Zealand Prime Minister (I forget which) who said that New Zealanders emigrating to Australia were a good thing, because they raised both countries' IQs.

Friendly rivalry? :D

There was, however, a New Zealand Prime Minister (I forget which) who said that New Zealanders emigrating to Australia were a good thing, because they raised both countries' IQs.

Friendly rivalry? :D

That was Robert Muldoon, the same prime minister who went on TV visibly drunk, called a snap election and proceded to get heavily beaten.

Spot on; thanks. His name had slipped my mind.

It was a pity you lost, the captain wasn't taking enough risks in my opinion. Probably because he wanted his century.
He most probably has the lowest half-century-century coversion rate in internationl cricket but he is out of form and needed time at the crease.
Yes he had a few quiet spots in his innings but really it was those around hi that ballsed up, but yeah i agree i had a bad feeling about his progress.