NationStates Jolt Archive


If only everyone were this honest

Congo--Kinshasa
06-02-2007, 14:46
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2007/02/05/3532563-cp.html

The world would be a much better place.
Infinite Revolution
06-02-2007, 14:56
the moral of this story is, never listen to the voices in your head.

what i wouldn't do for 10 grand right now just doesn't bear mentioning :eek:
Andaluciae
06-02-2007, 15:00
Honestly, I would look at the money, blink, keep quiet and stuff it into a bag. Slowly leave the building and slowly deposit it into my checking account.
Mooseica
06-02-2007, 15:05
Honestly, I would look at the money, blink, keep quiet and stuff it into a bag. Slowly leave the building and slowly deposit it into my checking account.

And then have to answer lots of awkward questions about where it came from? :p
Infinite Revolution
06-02-2007, 15:06
does it say whether the money was in sequencial bills? if they weren't then they can't track it.
Andaluciae
06-02-2007, 15:06
And then have to answer lots of awkward questions about where it came from? :p

I'd be subtle about it. Perhaps deposit $20 at a time over the period of a year, set some aside for direct cash purchases, etc.
Mooseica
06-02-2007, 15:08
I'd be subtle about it. Perhaps deposit $20 at a time over the period of a year, set some aside for direct cash purchases, etc.

Or just stash it away somewhere safe and pay for everything in cash.
German Nightmare
06-02-2007, 15:18
What I don't understand is why the worker to whom the guy handed the money also received $500. Not to begrudge the other fellow, but that's a little strange!

Anyway, good on the honest finder. I laud his actions.

But those who lost the dough really could have shown more generosity towards the student.
Similization
06-02-2007, 15:23
A guy hands over 10k to a BANK?! The modern crime syndicates?! And the bank spokesperson has the nerve to say his mother raised him right?

I just don't know.. Sounds to me like the whole lot of those twits need to have some sense beaten into their heads with a fucking shovel.
The Legendary TIN
06-02-2007, 15:30
A man not dominated by greed? SCARY... :eek:
German Nightmare
06-02-2007, 15:35
A man not dominated by greed? SCARY... :eek:
TIN? As in The Imperial Navy?
Farflorin
06-02-2007, 15:36
If everyone was this honest, the world would be a scary place... I mean... imagine if Bush was honest about the whole war on terror and Iraq...!! :eek:
Catalasia
06-02-2007, 15:45
A man not dominated by greed? SCARY... :eek:

Hey look, it's TIN!

yeah, old poster we remember returns and the thread veers off-topic immediately. Then again I really had nothing to contribute in the first place. :p
Neo Undelia
06-02-2007, 15:49
Idiot.
The Aeson
06-02-2007, 15:49
If everyone was this honest, the world would be a scary place... I mean... imagine if Bush was honest about the whole war on terror and Iraq...!! :eek:

Gasp! We couldn't have invaded based off of faulty intelligence?
The Legendary TIN
06-02-2007, 15:50
Well, I am kind of a living legend. I have a habit of causing thread topic destruction.
Catalasia
06-02-2007, 15:52
Well, I am kind of a living legend. I have a habit of causing thread topic destruction.

So I recall. If the thread has a topic to destroy in the first place.
Farflorin
06-02-2007, 15:52
Gasp! We couldn't have invaded based off of faulty intelligence?

I know, unbelievable.
The Legendary TIN
06-02-2007, 15:53
I'm amazed there are still people who remember me. Most of my old friends here are gone. I keep in contact with moleland though.
Andaluciae
06-02-2007, 15:54
*Gasps*

It's you!
The Legendary TIN
06-02-2007, 15:55
*Gasps*

It's you!

See what i mean? :D
New Ritlina
06-02-2007, 15:56
Have to love that kid. Did what he knew was right, even if it would set him back.
Catalasia
06-02-2007, 15:58
I'm amazed there are still people who remember me. Most of my old friends here are gone. I keep in contact with moleland though.

Moleland kind of ... disappeared too. At least from NS.

PM and Kanabia have been campaigning to bring you back for some time, however. You're probably heading the list of '04 posters we'd like to have back. (We also thought of making a list of '05 posters we'd like to have back, but none of them ever go away...!)
Kanabia
06-02-2007, 16:02
I'm amazed there are still people who remember me. Most of my old friends here are gone. I keep in contact with moleland though.
:eek:

TIN!!!

http://www.freethechildren.org/letter/dec2005/yiag_clip_image002_0005.jpg
The Legendary TIN
06-02-2007, 16:04
http://www.guyweb.co.uk/images/fonz.jpg

EYYYYYYYY!
Kanabia
06-02-2007, 16:08
PM and Kanabia have been campaigning to bring you back for some time, however. You're probably heading the list of '04 posters we'd like to have back. (We also thought of making a list of '05 posters we'd like to have back, but none of them ever go away...!)

Yes, yes, we have. It was like the NS dark ages when he left.

So now can be like...the renaissance, or something. Yeah.
The Legendary TIN
06-02-2007, 16:11
What? I have to get images approved by Mods now? Wow, Freedom crackdown in the Real world AND online? Aww man, and it was really clever too... :(
HotRodia
06-02-2007, 16:22
What? I have to get images approved by Mods now? Wow, Freedom crackdown in the Real world AND online? Aww man, and it was really clever too... :(

It's Jolt's shiny new spam filter. If you get your old account back, it shouldn't be affected by it.
Congo--Kinshasa
06-02-2007, 16:24
If everyone was this honest, the world would be a scary place... I mean... imagine if Bush was honest about the whole war on terror and Iraq...!! :eek:

Now you're just being silly. :p
The Legendary TIN
06-02-2007, 16:25
It's Jolt's shiny new spam filter. If you get your old account back, it shouldn't be affected by it.

Ah, well I intend to get The Imperial Navy Resurrected, but there's a que.
Europa Maxima
06-02-2007, 16:38
Idiot.
Yep, that he is.

Me? I'd keep the poor abandoned, homeless cash. Money shouldn't stay without good care and nurture. :) Besides, I have multiple needs that need fulfilling (e.g. the need to own a PS 3 :D).
The Legendary TIN
06-02-2007, 16:42
I'd keep it and spend the rest of the day laughing at the incompetence of the security.
HC Eredivisie
06-02-2007, 16:47
Moleland kind of ... disappeared too. At least from NS.

PM and Kanabia have been campaigning to bring you back for some time, however. You're probably heading the list of '04 posters we'd like to have back. (We also thought of making a list of '05 posters we'd like to have back, but none of them ever go away...!)
'04 nations? Nooblings, I say.
Europa Maxima
06-02-2007, 16:48
'04 nations? Nooblings, I say.
Hah! I'm a '05 nation, but hardly a "noobling". :)
HC Eredivisie
06-02-2007, 16:51
Hah! I'm a '05 nation, but hardly a "noobling". :)
You're more a spammer;)

And why do I never find 10k?:(
Catalasia
06-02-2007, 16:52
'04 nations? Nooblings, I say.

*waits for, say, Sirithil to come along and make some remark at '03 nations' expense*

It's an endless cycle. The 2002s look down on the 2003s, the Januaries look down on the Junes, the June 03s look down on the 04s, the 04s look down on the 05s, and now we have 06s and 07s and I can barely keep track of anything anymore.
HC Eredivisie
06-02-2007, 16:54
And every nation older than me is a fossil:p
Multiland
06-02-2007, 17:33
I would hand it in. Fact 1: Aint my money. Aint been given to me. Thus I have no right to it. Fact 2: Is technically stealing. I know it's not my money, so by taking it I'm taking something without the owner's consent - stealing it. Just like if I "found" a credit card and started using it. Fact 3: Could have been very important to someone. Could be someone's life savings, could be a charity's money, could be any number of things that mean it would be morally bad for me to keep it. Fact 4: Aint my money. Thus I have no right to it.
JuNii
06-02-2007, 17:42
I'm amazed there are still people who remember me. Most of my old friends here are gone. I keep in contact with moleland though.
Welcome back TIN! :D


And every nation older than me is a fossil:p

nah, any nation that has to doublecheck their join date against yours is old.
>.>
<.<
*doublechecks join date*

*Ahem*

I would've turned it in for two reasons. one, as tempting as it is, turning it in is still the right thing to do.

Two, it was at an ATM, those things have cameras...
Whereyouthinkyougoing
06-02-2007, 17:52
I would always hand in money like this, found in a stack next to a bank machine. Always. Because I would be haunted by the thought it may have been some old granny's life savings or someone's savings for their last mortgage payment or whatever.
That in this case it turned out to just have been "the bank's money" would have irked me, though. :p
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
06-02-2007, 18:58
Idiot.
QFT, just because I never get a chance to say that.

I'm not sure if I would be willing to spend the money, what with the risk that someone might ttrack it down to me, but I'd have at least taken it home and filled a kiddie pool with it to sleep in.
Europa Maxima
06-02-2007, 19:35
You're more a spammer;)

And why do I never find 10k?:(
Meh, I'm not. I spend most of the time in economics, politics and philosophy threads... add to that of course tons of useless posts. :D
Europa Maxima
06-02-2007, 19:37
QFT, just because I never get a chance to say that.

I'm not sure if I would be willing to spend the money, what with the risk that someone might ttrack it down to me, but I'd have at least taken it home and filled a kiddie pool with it to sleep in.
And provide it with the warmth and comfort its original owner failed to give it. :)

I know it'd provide me with a lot of 'warmth' and 'comfort'... :D
LiberationFrequency
06-02-2007, 19:41
I would hand it in. Fact 1: Aint my money. Aint been given to me. Thus I have no right to it. Fact 2: Is technically stealing. I know it's not my money, so by taking it I'm taking something without the owner's consent - stealing it. Just like if I "found" a credit card and started using it. Fact 3: Could have been very important to someone. Could be someone's life savings, could be a charity's money, could be any number of things that mean it would be morally bad for me to keep it. Fact 4: Aint my money. Thus I have no right to it.

Isn't all money stolen from federal banks replaced by the US gov?
Multiland
06-02-2007, 19:52
Isn't all money stolen from federal banks replaced by the US gov?

Not if it's not stolen directly from the bank. I would have no idea where the money came from. someone could have drew it out of their bank account (perhaps they were going to put a large deposit on something, go on their first holiday, do something else with it - perhaps something very important) and if they tell their bank that it's been stolen, I doubt the bank will replace it
New Genoa
06-02-2007, 19:52
It's not too venerable since he only handed it over to a bank. If it was a person, then maybe it'd be different, but banks are rich as hell anyway. Keep the money.
Europa Maxima
06-02-2007, 19:57
It's not too venerable since he only handed it over to a bank. If it was a person, then maybe it'd be different, but banks are rich as hell anyway. Keep the money.
Except that that money likely belonged to someone anyway, and that they were using the bank as the storage medium (a bank serves persons, if it eludes the memory of some here). I'd keep the money, but I wouldn't be so self-righteous as to call myself moral on top of it for doing so.
Infinite Revolution
06-02-2007, 19:58
Not if it's not stolen directly from the bank. I would have no idea where the money came from. someone could have drew it out of their bank account (perhaps they were going to put a large deposit on something, go on their first holiday, do something else with it - perhaps something very important) and if they tell their bank that it's been stolen, I doubt the bank will replace it

don't cash machines have a limit of something around £250 (or whatever in $s) that can be withdrawn in one day though? if i saw 10 grand on the floor i would assume it was either ill-gotten or belonged to the bank - either way, straight in my pocket.
Infinite Revolution
06-02-2007, 19:59
Except that that money likely belonged to someone anyway, and that they were using the bank as the storage medium. I'd keep the money, but I wouldn't be so self-righteous as to call myself moral on top of it for doing so.

banks have hefty insurence though for any money they might lose. i wouldn't feel particularly moral, but i certainly wouldn't feel bad.
Europa Maxima
06-02-2007, 20:01
banks have hefty insurence though for any money they might lose. i wouldn't feel particularly moral, but i certainly wouldn't feel bad.
They do have insurance, but everytime they claim for it does it not push up their premiums, ergo their costs, ergo their prices?
Infinite Revolution
06-02-2007, 20:04
They do have insurance, but everytime they claim for it does it not push up their premiums, ergo their costs, ergo their prices?

true enough. thinking things through is always so disappointing :(!
Europa Maxima
06-02-2007, 20:05
true enough. thinking things through is always so disappointing :(!
Well it wouldn't stop me from taking the money anyway. I'd just consider it 'abandoned'. :p Or maybe not... unless the situation actually faced me, I doubt I could know in advance how I'd act.
New Genoa
06-02-2007, 20:06
Except that that money likely belonged to someone anyway, and that they were using the bank as the storage medium (a bank serves persons, if it eludes the memory of some here). I'd keep the money, but I wouldn't be so self-righteous as to call myself moral on top of it for doing so.

I wouldn't feel moral, but I wouldn't feel bad.
Infinite Revolution
06-02-2007, 20:07
Well it wouldn't stop me from taking the money anyway. I'd just consider it 'abandoned'. :p Or maybe not... unless the situation actually faced me, I doubt I could know in advance how I'd act.

nor me, unless it was my bank. but that'd be pretty silly, stealing from your own bank.
New Genoa
06-02-2007, 20:12
nor me, unless it was my bank. but that'd be pretty silly, stealing from your own bank.

In general, I approve of stealing. Unless it's from me.
Dosuun
06-02-2007, 20:13
Hmm...I'd probably take a little off the top and return the rest. I'm just being honest, that's what I'd probably do if I saw a wad of money that big. I think most people would just take it. They wouldn't say it but they would. Most smaller amounts I'd probably return intact.
Jello Biafra
06-02-2007, 20:13
I'm not entirely certain what I would've done in such a situation, but it would most likely end up like this:

I would always hand in money like this, found in a stack next to a bank machine. Always. Because I would be haunted by the thought it may have been some old granny's life savings or someone's savings for their last mortgage payment or whatever.
That in this case it turned out to just have been "the bank's money" would have irked me, though. :p
Europa Maxima
06-02-2007, 20:15
nor me, unless it was my bank. but that'd be pretty silly, stealing from your own bank.
It would be. What would be pretty idiotic, on the other hand, would be to pick up the cash the day before, and then head into the bank the next day - full amount of cash in hand, smile on your face - to deposit it. The bank could then promptly inform you of the various saving accounts it has for prison inmates before you get hauled off to your cell. Wouldn't wanna lose a paying customer, now would we? :)
New Genoa
06-02-2007, 20:16
Hmm...I'd probably take a little off the top and return the rest. I'm just being honest, that's what I'd probably do if I saw a wad of money that big. I think most people would just take it. They wouldn't say it but they would. Most smaller amounts I'd probably return intact.

Or they may return in fear of legal repercussions, rather than moral qualms.
Infinite Revolution
06-02-2007, 20:19
Hmm...I'd probably take a little off the top and return the rest. I'm just being honest, that's what I'd probably do if I saw a wad of money that big. I think most people would just take it. They wouldn't say it but they would. Most smaller amounts I'd probably return intact.

i think i'd be more likely to take smaller money than big money. the bigger the sum, the more people are going to be looking for it and the meaner they'll be if they find you.
Lerkistan
06-02-2007, 20:20
I would hand it in. Fact 1: Aint my money. Aint been given to me. Thus I have no right to it. Fact 2: Is technically stealing. I know it's not my money, so by taking it I'm taking something without the owner's consent - stealing it. Just like if I "found" a credit card and started using it. Fact 3: Could have been very important to someone. Could be someone's life savings, could be a charity's money, could be any number of things that mean it would be morally bad for me to keep it. Fact 4: Aint my money. Thus I have no right to it.

QFT.

That aside, I'm no student anymore, I actually earn money now. I'm pretty sure the bad conscience would stay longer than the time it'd take me to get 10k$...
Delator
06-02-2007, 22:34
I would have taken it...and had no qualms whatsoever.

Teach that bank the importance of keeping it's client's assets secure! :D
The Plutonian Empire
06-02-2007, 23:20
I'm amazed there are still people who remember me. Most of my old friends here are gone. I keep in contact with moleland though.
TINNY!!!!!!!!

*POUNCE* :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
Dakini
06-02-2007, 23:23
Yeah, I would have taken it home and played with it for a bit and then returned it.

I really would like to know what it's like to hold that much money at once...
Almighty America
07-02-2007, 08:46
Well, I am a deeply religious, Republican-voting, military-supporting American citizen. I am absolutely certain that if I found $10,000 like this guy did, it is because God wanted me to mess up a drug deal or punish a heathen's stupidity or absentmindedness. So naturally, to carry out the will of the Almighty, I'd take that money with no regrets.

What would I do with it? I'd use the $10,000 to buy liquor which I would then distribute to needy people at the homeless shelter. (Beat that, Stewart!) Or buy 40 Wiis and donate them to the needy people at the tech department at my college. Or perhaps spend it all on a needy callgirl in an effort to convince her to give up a life of destitution and sin and become my girlfriend instead. The opportunities for being a Good Samaritan are endless.
German Nightmare
07-02-2007, 09:34
Well, I am a deeply religious, Republican-voting, military-supporting American citizen. I am absolutely certain that if I found $10,000 like this guy did, it is because God wanted me to mess up a drug deal or punish a heathen's stupidity or absentmindedness. So naturally, to carry out the will of the Almighty, I'd take that money with no regrets.

What would I do with it? I'd use the $10,000 to buy liquor which I would then distribute to needy people at the homeless shelter. (Beat that, Stewart!) Or buy 40 Wiis and donate them to the needy people at the tech department at my college. Or perhaps spend it all on a needy callgirl in an effort to convince her to give up a life of destitution and sin and become my girlfriend instead. The opportunities for being a Good Samaritan are endless.
Right. And because you didn't understand what God really wanted you to do (namely hand back what isn't yours), the guys who were supposed to fill the banking machines, but made a mistake that day, lose their jobs, their families break apart, and you end up in hell. Well done!
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings. http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/asthanos.gif
Zilam
07-02-2007, 09:39
it'd be a boring world.
Wilgrove
07-02-2007, 10:07
My God....What a total and useless idiot! If I was his friend I would seriously considering holding him over a ledge until he promised to give me 5k. I mean jeez, it's not like he would get in trouble for using the money, I mean after all, if the idiot who was in charge of the money has actually secured it, then it wouldn't gotten lost. Also, the reward is a measly $500? If I turn in $10,000 I would expect a hell lot more than just a spit in the face $500.

Yes, I would've kept the money and spend it on alot of things.