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Is there something wrong...

Nadkor
06-02-2007, 02:29
...in seriously considering finding a train and jumping in front of it?
Dobbsworld
06-02-2007, 02:32
...in seriously considering finding a train and jumping in front of it?

You'd delay the train and inconvenience a number of people. Particularly the people who'd have to clean the mess up and remove bits of you from the wheels and undercarriage. Otherwise - no, not really.
Deus Malum
06-02-2007, 02:32
Yes. I advocate you not do this, largely because of the small but calculable risk of causing damage to the train, thus endangering the lives of countless passengers.

Oh, you meant the suicide part. Yeah, that's probably not good either. There are much better ways to deal with your problems then...well...running away from them and into something hard and moving at a hundred miles per hour.

If you want to talk, feel free to send me a message...assuming this forum allows PMing. I don't know, given the fact that I'm relatively new here.
HotRodia
06-02-2007, 02:34
Probably, m'dear.

Folks tend not to seriously consider that sort of thing when they're in healthy emotional states.

I have very seriously considered that option and planned out several others of that general sort myself. So if you want to discuss it I certainly have relevant experience.

Feel free to TG me.
Nadkor
06-02-2007, 02:34
the fucking engineer has to live the rest of his life with the image of his train splatting you into ooze.

not so much wrong to think about as it is to DO.

OK, i'll think of something else.
Ashmoria
06-02-2007, 02:34
the fucking engineer has to live the rest of his life with the image of his train splatting you into ooze.

not so much wrong to think about as it is to DO.
Cannot think of a name
06-02-2007, 02:34
The world needs chicks that are into racing.

Too cool for that. Just wail on a tree stump or something for a while.
South Lizasauria
06-02-2007, 02:35
the fucking engineer has to live the rest of his life with the image of his train splatting you into ooze.

not so much wrong to think about as it is to DO.

I used to be a train nut, I know how to drive trains, just not well. :p Plus I don't know how to start diesel and steam properly.

Edit: I learned via train simulator.
Nadkor
06-02-2007, 02:36
The world needs chicks that are into racing.

Too cool for that. Just wail on a tree stump or something for a while.

Yeah, as much as I love cars, that isn't going to help with the general thing.
Smunkeeville
06-02-2007, 02:38
OK, i'll think of something else.

like things that you can do to deal with your pain that won't kill you?

I have been there (well, actually I was more a "drive my car off a bridge" type) and I have made it through.....although I found a lot of unhealthy ways to deal along the way, I can't really recommend any of those either.

If you are seriously that low right now you might want to phone the suicide hotline, or even better head into the hospital, I know it sucks, but it won't suck forever, and you will want to be around for the non-sucking part of life.
Bodies Without Organs
06-02-2007, 02:41
...in seriously considering finding a train and jumping in front of it?

If said train is operated by Translink, then yes, there probably is.They will most likely have closed the line due to a suspect device somewhere between Portadown and Dundalk, and be operating a bus service instead. End result = naught but embarassment and a grazed knee or two.


What is so bad that just moving away and starting a new life elsewhere wouldn't be worth a try?
Nadkor
06-02-2007, 02:42
If said train is operated by Translink, then yes, there probably is.

True, I wouldn't want to ruin one of their snazzy new trains. I could always wait until one of the old ones comes along...
Zarakon
06-02-2007, 02:44
the fucking engineer has to live the rest of his life with the image of his train splatting you into ooze.

He probably wouldn't notice, actually.
Vetalia
06-02-2007, 02:44
True, I wouldn't want to ruin one of their snazzy new trains. I could always wait until one of the old ones comes along...

Yeah, but then you run the risk of damaging a historical train. Also, haunted trains suck.
Nadkor
06-02-2007, 02:45
like things that you can do to deal with your pain that won't kill you?

I have been there (well, actually I was more a "drive my car off a bridge" type) and I have made it through.....although I found a lot of unhealthy ways to deal along the way, I can't really recommend any of those either.

If you are seriously that low right now you might want to phone the suicide hotline, or even better head into the hospital, I know it sucks, but it won't suck forever, and you will want to be around for the non-sucking part of life.

To be honest, it isn't because of what you think it is.

Well, it is. But that's a small part. The major part is that I know that, come this June, I could be graduating first class honours from one of the top law schools in the UK, no bother at all. Instead, I arsed about, ended up in my current degree path, and an about to fail it, leaving me entirely unable to do anything with my life that i'm remotely interested it.

That, and what you're thinking of.
The Mindset
06-02-2007, 02:46
Chances are you won't die. You'll sever a few limbs, lose a lot of blood and maybe have serious brain damage, but a great number of people who do jump in front of trains survive.
Soviestan
06-02-2007, 02:47
...in seriously considering finding a train and jumping in front of it?

Yes. If you really are considering self-harm and aren't doing this for attention then I would hope you would get help. Call a crisis line or something. Its not worth it even though it may seem like it is. Believe me, I've been there more than once.
Nadkor
06-02-2007, 02:48
Chances are you won't die. You'll sever a few limbs, lose a lot of blood and maybe have serious brain damage, but a great number of people who do jump in front of trains survive.

Yeah, but on the other hand I might die. Seems like good odds to me.
Bodies Without Organs
06-02-2007, 02:50
Instead I arsed about, ended up in my current degree path, and an about to fail it, leaving me entirely unable to do anything with my life that i'm remotely interested it.

That, and what you're thinking of.

Big deal. You could jsut take a diversion for a couple of years. You could either be poor and somehwhat hungry on Great Victoria Street for the next few years, or you could strike out and be poor and hungry in Bolivia, Latvia or New Zealand. What have you got to lose? You may find a new path opening up before you.
Kiryu-shi
06-02-2007, 02:53
Yeah, but on the other hand I might die. Seems like good odds to me.

But your too awesomely cool to die. :(
Bodies Without Organs
06-02-2007, 02:54
Supplemental: you have, of course, already talked to your advisor of studies about all this, and most specifically about the option of doing re-sits for any particularly bad modules come November?
Nadkor
06-02-2007, 02:54
Big deal. You could jsut take a diversion for a couple of years. You could either be poor and somehwhat hungry on Great Victoria Street for the next few years, or you could strike out and be poor and hungry in Bolivia, Latvia or New Zealand. What have you got to lose? You may find a new path opening up before you.

Well, no, it's not about having money...
Ravea
06-02-2007, 02:55
Yeah, but on the other hand I might die. Seems like good odds to me.

Become a Mime.

It's much easier to avoid your problems if you're not allowed to speak.
Zarakon
06-02-2007, 02:55
Become a Mime.

It's much easier to avoid your problems if you're not allowed to speak.

Can't mimes speak when off duty?
Nadkor
06-02-2007, 02:56
Supplemental: you have, of course, already talked to your advisor of studies about all this, and most specifically about the option of doing re-sits for any particularly bad modules come November?

Yeah, as far as I know, third year doesn't get resits. And I'm already doing 3 from second year.

But uni isn't a major concern for me...
Bodies Without Organs
06-02-2007, 02:56
Well, no, it's not about having money...

More to do with believing that you have seen all the available options before you're 21? Not to be patronising here, but you haven't.
Bodies Without Organs
06-02-2007, 02:58
Yeah, as far as I know, third year doesn't get resits. And I'm already doing 3 from second year.

But uni isn't a major concern for me...

I think you're wrong there - I know someone who finished law and politics at QUB last year, and did resits in Nov in order to finish the course. So what is the major concern then?
Smunkeeville
06-02-2007, 02:59
To be honest, it isn't because of what you think it is.

Well, it is. But that's a small part. The major part is that I know that, come this June, I could be graduating first class honours from one of the top law schools in the UK, no bother at all. Instead, I arsed about, ended up in my current degree path, and an about to fail it, leaving me entirely unable to do anything with my life that i'm remotely interested it.

That, and what you're thinking of.

I failed the most important test of my life in November because I was too busy fucking around, I have to save up $600 to pay to try to take it again this year, and I will probably fail again, which means I can't take it again for 2 years. I was so pissed at myself......all the way through Christmas, in fact thinking about it now I am still pretty pissed.

I think you should make a list of everything you think you might want to do and start doing some of it. It's what I am currently working on, and it's keeping me just busy enough not to do anything idiotic (like laps back into unhealthy addictions).......admittedly most of the stuff on my list is busy work, but it might lead somewhere.

90% of the people I know hate their jobs. If there is anything you can do with your current credits, try to shift around and do that, nobody has to be what they are qualified for anyway....

as far as the other part, I can't imagine how painful and stressful and lonely that must feel, but I know that it probably sucks, is there any type of support in your area? people you can talk to who understand?
Ravea
06-02-2007, 02:59
Can't mimes speak when off duty?

Real mimes are never off duty.
Smunkeeville
06-02-2007, 03:00
Can't mimes speak when off duty?

yes.
Ravea
06-02-2007, 03:03
yes.

Darn you!

Well, If I were a mime, I'd never speak as long as I lived.
Nadkor
06-02-2007, 03:04
I think you're wrong there - I know someone who finished law and politics at QUB last year, and did resits in Nov in order to finish the course. So what is the major concern then?

well, I suppose Uni is just a general cover for feelings I've had for many a year. Uni has certainly contributed its fair share, though.
Smunkeeville
06-02-2007, 03:07
Darn you!

Well, If I were a mime, I'd never speak as long as I lived.

that's an option. However you don't need to be a mime to take a vow of silence.

Mime is an artform, it's performance art. It's not usually a lifestyle.
Jordaxia
06-02-2007, 03:08
Hey...

You know you can talk to me whenever, if I can help you... I gave you that number for a reason you know... as well, you have my MSN, email, and you can telegram me on NS. I hate to see you like this for any reason whatsoever.


I hope nothing bad happens, cause you can get through this.
Nadkor
06-02-2007, 03:17
I failed the most important test of my life in November because I was too busy fucking around, I have to save up $600 to pay to try to take it again this year, and I will probably fail again, which means I can't take it again for 2 years. I was so pissed at myself......all the way through Christmas, in fact thinking about it now I am still pretty pissed.

I think you should make a list of everything you think you might want to do and start doing some of it. It's what I am currently working on, and it's keeping me just busy enough not to do anything idiotic (like laps back into unhealthy addictions).......admittedly most of the stuff on my list is busy work, but it might lead somewhere.

90% of the people I know hate their jobs. If there is anything you can do with your current credits, try to shift around and do that, nobody has to be what they are qualified for anyway....

yea, well, a list of things I want to do (which are actually possible) will be exactly no lines long. Fantastic.

I mean, I don't mean to be rude to you, because you're great, but there's really nothing at all in my life.

as far as the other part, I can't imagine how painful and stressful and lonely that must feel, but I know that it probably sucks, is there any type of support in your area? people you can talk to who understand?

Yeah, It's just one of those things you can bring up casually in conversation. I think that, deep down, i'm just a coward. So if suicide (not including a train, I wouldn't want to do that to the driver/engineers etc.) is the coward's way out then fantastic.
Nadkor
06-02-2007, 03:18
Hey...

You know you can talk to me whenever, if I can help you... I gave you that number for a reason you know... as well, you have my MSN, email, and you can telegram me on NS. I hate to see you like this for any reason whatsoever.


I hope nothing bad happens, cause you can get through this.

I know...thanks...but just...I don't know...
Dobbsworld
06-02-2007, 03:20
Aww jeez... I didn't realize you were serious, Nadkor. Forgive my dismissive first post; it was merely in jest.
Bodies Without Organs
06-02-2007, 03:25
I mean, I don't mean to be rude to you, because you're great, but there's really nothing at all in my life.

So change you're life, rather than ending it. The world is much bigger than you can imagine, and there are still a great many corners of it which to you are still undreamt. That's what I was talking about when I said that you can be poor anywhere.
Smunkeeville
06-02-2007, 03:28
yea, well, a list of things I want to do (which are actually possible) will be exactly no lines long. Fantastic.

I mean, I don't mean to be rude to you, because you're great, but there's really nothing at all in my life.
you don't have to worry about being rude to me :)



Yeah, It's just one of those things you can bring up casually in conversation. I think that, deep down, i'm just a coward. So if suicide (not including a train, I wouldn't want to do that to the driver/engineers etc.) is the coward's way out then fantastic.
I don't think you are a coward. I think you are a very cool person, who unfortunately has a lot of crappy stuff going on, which most of it is sadly out of your control right now.
Nadkor
06-02-2007, 03:30
Aww jeez... I didn't realize you were serious, Nadkor. Forgive my dismissive first post; it was merely in jest.

I didn't even see it, but thanks all the same...
HotRodia
06-02-2007, 03:50
I mean, I don't mean to be rude to you, because you're great, but there's really nothing at all in my life.

Then please put something in it. You're too great to let your life go to waste.

Volunteer for a non-profit organization that helps the helpless, or make some other choice to do something valuable with your life. You're certainly capable of it.
Kyronea
06-02-2007, 05:30
Yes there is Nadkor. Take it from me, a rather miserable failure thus far in my nigh twenty years of life, that suicide is a bad option. Besides, it's incredibly selfish. Think about what you would do to your family. Think about your loved ones, your friends. What about people who depend on you? It's also a permenant decision. You can't die and then decide to wind back the clock. Anything else you decide to do is not permenant, but this is, and it's a bad option. Trust me.
Callisdrun
06-02-2007, 05:43
I don't really know you, but please don't go. :(
CthulhuFhtagn
06-02-2007, 05:45
It'll be fine. I fucked up and flunked out of college in the first year, and everything worked out eventually. Just try again. Keep your chin up.
Kuczerica
06-02-2007, 05:57
Define train. Define jump in front of.