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Supposedly, when a non-silicone brake fluid containing polyethelyne glycol is mixed with pool shock cleaner that contains calcium hypochlorite, the result is a chemical reaction that gets hot and flares up. I've heard that park rangers use this to start camp fires in wet conditions. Is this true? I can't make it work.

I have mixed "Sun-burn extra" (47% Calcium Hypochlorite by volume)granulated shock treatment with "Super-Tech" brake fluid (containing polyglycols) together with no result. The video of this that I have found use very large amounts to obtain results.

http://www.tb3.com/pyro/pegcl/PCBF01.mpg

Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

Probably not the best place to ask how to build semi-legal incendiary devices.

I shall watch the Atlanta news for "Teenager Burns House Down". :rolleyes: Pretty fires are nice but seriously, find a less dangerous hobby, okay?

Seriously, I am a chemist and I want to understand this. This is not a bomb.

This is not a bomb.

...SO many ways to take that out of context...bwehee...:D

...SO many ways to take that out of context...bwehee...:D

And the check is in the mail, too, I bet. :D

Seriously, I am a chemist and I want to understand this. This is not a bomb.

if you were a chemist you would understand it. :p

if you were a chemist you would understand it. :p

One would assume so, or at the very least work with someone who would.

if you were a chemist you would understand it. :p

One would assume so, or at the very least work with someone who would.

Still, those were very pretty flames in the video, don't you think?

Supposedly, when a non-silicone brake fluid containing polyethelyne glycol is mixed with pool shock cleaner that contains calcium hypochlorite, the result is a chemical reaction that gets hot and flares up. I've heard that park rangers use this to start camp fires in wet conditions. Is this true? I can't make it work.

I have mixed "Sun-burn extra" (47% Calcium Hypochlorite by volume)granulated shock treatment with "Super-Tech" brake fluid (containing polyglycols) together with no result. The video of this that I have found use very large amounts to obtain results.

http://www.tb3.com/pyro/pegcl/PCBF01.mpg

Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
suggest it to mythbusters, then they can not only prove or debunk it, but actually find out what chemicals will produce your desired results.

Still, those were very pretty flames in the video, don't you think?

I like these ones better. :) (http://www.theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/011.2/index.html) (movie links near the bottom of the page)

Supposedly, when a 55 gallon drum of fertilizer is soaked in diesel fuel, the result is an unstable chemical reactant that can be used for structural demolition. I've heard that Texans use this to clear underbrush from their yards, and Alabamans use it for pond fishing. Is it true? I can't make it work.

Seriously, I am a chemist and I want to understand this. This is not a bomb.

Still, those were very pretty flames in the video, don't you think?

I have seen better, although I am too smart to share......

I opted to delete that message because I'm sure if I mention that some dumbass will try it.

I have seen better, although I am too smart to share......

Personally, I like Mentos and coke for sheer exuberance of the reaction.

I can make this work in a lab with similar reactants, but I cannot make it work with anything I get from local stores. If anybody has made this work, I would like to know what brands of product they used. Please tell me! or I will be forced to spend more time figuring this out for myself.

suggest it to mythbusters, then they can not only prove or debunk it, but actually find out what chemicals will produce your desired results.

Err...do you not actually watch the show? Anytime they mess with something like that, they intentionally leave out essential parts to the process for making them so that people don't go off trying it and hurting themselves, or using fake fingerprints to break into places, like in that one episode.

I think you should ask a police officer what you're doing wrong.

Err...do you not actually watch the show? Anytime they mess with something like that, they intentionally leave out essential parts to the process for making them so that people don't go off trying it and hurting themselves, or using fake fingerprints to break into places, like in that one episode.

They occasionally disappoint me. For instance Gunpowder Engine and painting with dynamite.


Gunpowder engines exist, in fact they've used them on a show dozens of times. Probably they don't realize it, but none the less. Guns, they're gunpowder engines. Instead of propelling a piston they're moving a bullet. Same principle though. Material moves into the reaction chamber, ignites, causes a physical motion due to expansion, and vents the exhaust. A modified gun, or more likely several could operate as an engine very easily.

Painting with dynamite was just sloppy. Jamie used too much duck tape on his device, which created huge voids. If he'd used thinner tape it would of worked vastly better.


I don't remember if they edited out steps in making thermite for their Hindenberg myth or not.

I can make this work in a lab with similar reactants, but I cannot make it work with anything I get from local stores. If anybody has made this work, I would like to know what brands of product they used. Please tell me! or I will be forced to spend more time figuring this out for myself.

you are getting really creepy and pathetic...........I just thought you might want to know.

I don't remember if they edited out steps in making thermite for their Hindenberg myth or not.

Thermite is a really, really simple process. I learned it in high school. Boil iron oxide in concentrated acid and drop in a piece of aluminum foil. You can buy the ingredients anywhere.

My personal favorite, though, is sodium perchlorate and sulfuric acid. Easy to do and dramatic. If you just use small quantities and take reasonable precautions, it's perfectly safe.

you are getting really creepy and pathetic...........I just thought you might want to know.

Fuck you guys, I figured out what I was doing wrong. It works now.

Fuck you guys, I figured out what I was doing wrong. It works now.

*calls the authorities*

Supposedly, when a 55 gallon drum of fertilizer is soaked in diesel fuel, the result is an unstable chemical reactant that can be used for structural demolition. I've heard that Texans use this to clear underbrush from their yards, and Alabamans use it for pond fishing. Is it true? I can't make it work.

Worked too well in Oklahoma City.

The canadian firm IRCC uses a diesel-fertilizer slurry to blast rocks of cliffs.

Fuck you guys, I figured out what I was doing wrong. It works now.

how old are you again?

Supposedly, when a 55 gallon drum of fertilizer is soaked in diesel fuel, the result is an unstable chemical reactant that can be used for structural demolition. I've heard that Texans use this to clear underbrush from their yards, and Alabamans use it for pond fishing. Is it true? I can't make it work.Worked too well in Oklahoma City.

...but evidentially the humor failed.


You people around here sure do take really stupid stuff seriously.

...but evidentially the humor failed.


You people around here sure do take really stupid stuff seriously.

I thought from the tone of your voice that you were kidding but I'm a little hard of hearing ... May I suggest a smiley at the end of the post? Many of our customers find this one: :p gives satisfaction.

I thought from the tone of your voice that you were kidding but I'm a little hard of hearing ... May I suggest a smiley at the end of the post? Many of our customers find this one: :p gives satisfaction.

Smileys are a sign of weakness.

Smileys are a sign of weakness.

:D

how old are you again?

I'd say 13-15.

Why oh why can't this forum have an age limit?

Ah yes Exprosions are ever so much fun.