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Just curious as to what this actually means.

It looks a lot like what Marxist-lenninist (or was it trotskyist?) theory to capturing the state then after a period of time dissolving it so a stateless world can exist (communism).

What are your opinions as to what it actually means?

P.S: Please try to stay impartial, this is just a fact hunt.

Anarcho-statism is an oxymoron of the first degree. It doesn't mean anything.

(please, please, fix up your location. It's screwing up the page)

The real problem is if they want both at the same time. Communism is both , though the end result is an anarchist society (no state, people working together with nothing to force them too).

Now if it were to be at the same time I would agree that it would an oxymoron.

Also fixed the location.

The real problem is if they want both at the same time. Communism is both , though the end result is an anarchist society (no state, people working together with nothing to force them too).

Now if it were to be at the same time I would agree that it would an oxymoron.

Also fixed the location.

Yes, what you're describing is dialectical Marxism.

One cannot describe themselves as an "anarcho-statist" as anarchists by definition believe in a direct transition to a stateless society. Marxists, however, believe in a transitionary state before this end goal is reached.

The term is meaningless.

Indeed the term is meaningless. :::grabs popcorn and waits for Free Soviets to dismantle the kawaiiso person's argument:::

Just curious as to what this actually means.

where did you hear it? in what context? 'cause i recall bryan caplan using it against the cnt in the spanish civil war, and an article somewhere mentioning something along the lines of "anarcho-cappies might as well call themselves anarcho-statists"

Anarcho-Statism is based on trust and honor in people. Which today is the biggest mistake on par with "Eyeraq has nookular weppins." Hobbes wrote Leviathan for a very good reason. You give people leeway and either someone will try to take it all for themselves or we'll just end up slaughtering the shit out of each other for the hell of it. Usually both at the same time and with more than one person trying to take it all.

Anarcho-statism falls under the umbrella anarcho, like all other anarchos.

The umbrella anarcho is "anarcho-waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

where "wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh" is the noise that a little kid makes when being ignored by everyone.

Anarcho-statism falls under the umbrella anarcho, like all other anarchos.

The umbrella anarcho is "anarcho-waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

where "wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh" is the noise that a little kid makes when being ignored by everyone.

As opposed to "WAAAAAAAAGHHHHH!!" which means "Get the hell off the planet ASAP."

:D

Hobbes wrote Leviathan for a very good reason. You give people leeway and either someone will try to take it all for themselves or we'll just end up slaughtering the shit out of each other for the hell of it. Usually both at the same time and with more than one person trying to take it all.

interestingly, the leviathan don't actually contradict anarchist ideas. our proposed institutions are just a particular form of hobbes' commonwealth. we most certainly do not propose a state of warre