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Again, the title's self-explanatory. Unfortunately, due to lack of enough options, there will be no poll.

III (US) FTW.
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III (US) FTW.
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Ah, that would be FFVI.

for me its FF VIII

VII, no question.

Oh my...well...here's my top...er...six at least:

1. Final Fantasy VIII: I really identified with both Squall and Seifer, and I thought the love story brought a movie-like quality to the game. I've beaten this game more times than I can remember, and unlike so many other games, it never gets old. People give this game a bad rap for its magic system and its characters...and those are both reasons I think this game is the greatest FF ever.
2. Final Fantasy VII: The typical, default-answer, it's still an amazing game that really put the PlayStation on the map. Cloud's story is amazing, and I would not argue with anyone who put this game first.
3. Final Fantasy X: An emotional rollercoaster, FFX really captivated me the entire way through. I truly felt for Auron and Tidus, and I was really upset that the sequel sucked so bad, or existed at all for that matter. The ending to FFX was the most beautiful of the series.
4. Final Fantasy XII: It's totally different, and while I didn't take to its political intrigue as much as I did the other stories ranked above it, it simply has the most enjoyable battle system of any RPG ever. Vaan sucked, and Ashe was annoying, but Basch and Baltheir more than made up for it.
5. Final Fantasy IV: The first one I played, IV holds a special place in my heart. While RPG's of the day had simple storylines, FFIV significantly raised the bar, setting a standard for the series.
6. Final Fantasy Tactics: Certainly a weird mention, but it had to be mentioned, nevertheless. The story of religious betrayal is immense, and the ability to play as Cloud cannot be passed up.

As for the worst...it's a toss-up between FFIX, with dumbass monkey-boy Zidane and "Dagger," and FFX-2, which was basically Charlie's Angels in Spira. Which is worse? The world may never know...

for me its FF VIII

EGAD! Another person in the world besides me that liked FFVIII? :eek:

Anyway, here's my list:

1. FFVII & FVIII (tie)
3. FFV
4. FFVI
5. FFIV
6. FFI
7. FFIX
8. FFIII
9. FFII
10. FFX

Haven't played any after that, so... yeah.

FFVI; the most atmospheric of them all, and the most fun to play. FFVII ties with FFV for a second place: VII has a pretty great story, but is too boring in between the story events, which are what is eventually left to drive you to play it through; V has great gameplay and is very enjoyable gaming-wise, though it's not much of a movie-like experience. After that comes the rest of in jumbled order, until X and above, which I have little experience with, but which largely seems to be half-arsed fantasy movie poorly disguised as games.

My favourite is FF VIII. I really liked the junction system.

...Fass plays video games? :confused:

Anyway, this is subject to an extreme amount of debate. Many praise the so called glories of Final Fantasy VII, whereas I am of the camp that finds it a pretentious excuse for a game. Poorly translated, poorly scripted, horrible characters--apart from Nanaki--and just plain unfun. I never enjoyed it.

Final Fantasy VIII was the first Final Fantasy game I completed--on the PC no less--and as such it was a favorite of mine for a long while. However, I've played it so much that I've become somewhat cynical, and when once Squall seemed like he had reasons for being emoish, he just seems emoish for no reason now.

Final Fantasy VI, which I've only played through a couple times and will play through again once I get VI Advance, certainly had character, but was not the absolute best game. Much of its character came from the Ted Woolsy translation, which is not being used for VI Advance. I'm going to wait and see what happens to characters like Kefka before weighing in more on this.

Final Fantasy IV, despite what some people say, was not too great in my mind. I did not enjoy it all that much.

Similarly, Final Fantasy V, while the precusor to Tactics in terms of a job system was not that fun, not to mention a poor story that did not take enough advantage of the neat properties of having two worlds--and then combining them, no less. (Chrono Cross did this much more successfully, though in V's defense they were actually two different worlds in V and not merely alternate dimensions.)

Final Fantasy X was a horrible game, most certainly not deserving of a sequal in any sense of the word, especially one done so terribly. The first game to introduce voice actors, it did not utilize them very well, in the North American version at least. James Arnold Taylor, normally a great voice actor--he voiced Ratchet in the various Ratchet and Clank games--gave an absolutely stunning performance. Stunning, that is, in its patheticness. That laughing scene is forever etched in my mind as a horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE moment in video game history.

Final Fantasy IX was fun. Fun fun fun. It had a minigame actually worth playing-Chocobo Hot and Cold--along with a neat story unhampered by poor translations. A few plotholes and minor bits plagued it of course, but that's true with all of these games, since they're no Metal Gear Solid level in terms of story quality. Still, it was nice in that unlike the previous Playstation Final Fantasy games it gave each character an actual class, with specific abilities, which I usually prefer as opposed to characters all being able to do the same thing since it makes the characters more fun, allows for more strategy, and actually makes you utilize most--if not all--of your characters, which makes you care about them somewhat more.

Final Fantasy XII had some definite good bits about it. The battle system--incredibly reminiscent of MMOs--was set up nicely, a sort of bridged gap between Kingdom Hearts' action-based battles and Final Fantasy's ATB system. The gambit system aided in this. What's more, every area in the game is absolutely massive. Unfortunately, the story pacing was poor at best. While it created a couple neat characters--Ashe and Balthier, anyone?--it also created a character I absolutely despise, which is extremely rare for me: Fran. I do not like her. I do not like how she looks, how she acts, how she speaks, or anything about her. An absolutely disgusting hag. (And I'm the guy who likes cat and bunny girls, so you'd think I'd go for a Viera, but nope, I don't like any of them.) What there was of the story wasn't all that intriguing either. The soundtrack was plain at best, which confused me, as apart from Final Fantasy VII's abysmal--apart from a few tracks(NOT One-Winged Angel. For the love of FUCK if I ever hear that tune in another game again I'm going to rip Uematsu apart...)--the Final Fantasy soundtracks are generally quite good. (I don't blame Uematsu for VII's bad soundtrack though. He only had six months to work on it. Six months for the soundtrack for an entire game? Yeah, I'd not produce my best work either under those conditions.) Sure, the music fit well in every situation--especially the Balfonheim Port music--but there was absolutely nothing memorable. Hell, I haven't even finished the game yet. I've been playing for 96 hours and am only somewhere in the First Ascent of the Pharos. I stopped playing close to two weeks ago because it bored me. (And I spent close to market price on this game too...)

If I had to name a personal favorite, thus far I'd say IX, though. A nice mixture of fun, story, and characters. All the characters in that game are neat, and if anyone decides to start flaming them, I shall pound you.

...Fass plays video games? :confused:

Why wouldn't I? *ignores your VII trolling*

Wow, FFVIII really gets a lot of love on this forum. How... abnormal. :)


If I had to name a personal favorite, thus far I'd say IX, though. A nice mixture of fun, story, and characters. All the characters in that game are neat, and if anyone decides to start flaming them, I shall pound you.

*Flames Quina, gets eaten*

I liked FFIX for about the first third of the game, then it just fell apart for me, in both story and gameplay. The battles just got too boring toward the end, and the final boss was a joke. I didn't even notice it was the final boss until the end cinematics started to roll...

Final Fantasy VI, which I've only played through a couple times and will play through again once I get VI Advance, certainly had character, but was not the absolute best game. Much of its character came from the Ted Woolsy translation, which is not being used for VI Advance. I'm going to wait and see what happens to characters like Kefka before weighing in more on this.

Which won't be available until at least tomorrow, contrary to what Wikipedia says. :headbang:

Why wouldn't I? *ignores your VII trolling*

He was right about the poor translation part, at least.

He was right about the poor translation part, at least.

He's definitely right about the translation, though its no Zero Wing...

Yeah, so the graphics and language in the game were semi-subpar, though for the time FF7 was pretty bitchin' in the visuals department, and the storyline was kind of overdone (excepting that it was still pretty good/decent, depending on who you are), but its still undeniable the materia system for the game worked well and the game itself was so addicting that Sony could essentially sell PS1s alongside FF7 and get a sales boost immediately.

VI (or III in the US upon first release).

It had more character development than VII.

VII has to be my favourite.

VII has to be my favourite.

:(

For me, the best is Final Fantasy Tactics, I loved the setting, the story, each of the characters and the system. Of course, it goes far from the classic system of the series, and it is more a strategic game than a RPG adventure one.

Speaking of classics, as a close second I would put Final Fantasy (the original, without any "I"). It was a great game, and I was a little kid with almost no grasp on english when I played it in my nintendo for the first time. I deeply believed back then that "Lit" was a word, that meant "electric bolt". That magic system needs to be rescued sometime...I even remember the nintendo power magazine, that helped me and my brothers to finish the game. We used the magazine alongside a dictionary to more and less understand the instructions. It took us weeks, perhaps even months, and we played it as a team.

As a third, the most complete of all, Final Fantasy VI. The story was good, it had a lot of characters engraved in the story, and also liked the setting and the fact that the evil villain wins, (at least for a while), Kefka is engraved in my mind as the most stereotypical villain in the FF series.

Finally, special mention to Final Fantasy VIII. My friends still call me "Rinoa" from time to time, given a vague physical resemblance and a personality (also vague) similarity, (I need to get that fancy blue winged sweater!). The game is criticized by the system, but I cannot see why it is so different from Final Fantasy VII, at least it added new deeps into the classic "epic" story, giving it the romantic edge.

Yeah, I don't like final Fantasy VII that much. Cloud was a lame hero, and the others characters were almost as bad. And let's not talk about the five minutes summon animations, they were too boring after three times. Bite me.

He's definitely right about the translation, though its no Zero Wing...

Yeah, so the graphics and language in the game were semi-subpar, though for the time FF7 was pretty bitchin' in the visuals department, and the storyline was kind of overdone (excepting that it was still pretty good/decent, depending on who you are), but its still undeniable the materia system for the game worked well and the game itself was so addicting that Sony could essentially sell PS1s alongside FF7 and get a sales boost immediately.

I never said anything about the graphics. I've never had a problem with graphics of any nature. I'd gladly play tons of SNES sprite RPGs if they all had great stories and intriguing gameplay. Final Fantasy VII is just not a good game in my mind. Whether Fass sees that as trolling or not is irrelevant.

Fass: It's just...well...you don't seem like a gamer to me, that's all.

Congo: Meh. I'm still doing a New Game+ in Chrono Cross so I'm not in any real hurry.

Cromo: Hey. Quina is cool. An amphibious chef that can--presumably--change their gender at will? (Quina has no set gender, despite the initial use of the he pronoun in the NA translation, which was more of a translation quip as Japanese does not have gender-based pronouns, whereas English has no non-gender based singular pronouns.) How is that not neat? Besides, s/he's the only fictional chef I'd ever be willing to have cook me a meal.

Fass: It's just...well...you don't seem like a gamer to me, that's all.

There's more of us than you can imagine. (http://gaygamer.net/)

There's more of us than you can imagine. (http://gaygamer.net/)

Clearly. I must remember to observe people more carefully in the future.

Similarly, Final Fantasy V, while the precusor to Tactics in terms of a job system was not that fun, not to mention a poor story that did not take enough advantage of the neat properties of having two worlds--and then combining them, no less. (Chrono Cross did this much more successfully, though in V's defense they were actually two different worlds in V and not merely alternate dimensions.)


Just to clarify, Final Fantasy III (NES, not released in US until the DS version) was the original FF game with a job system.

I'd say FF VI was my personal favorite, largely because of the vast number of characters, the unique abilities (Sabin's Bum Rush FTW) and an excellent plot and atmosphere.

Just to clarify, Final Fantasy III (NES, not released in US until the DS version) was the original FF game with a job system.

I'd say FF VI was my personal favorite, largely because of the vast number of characters, the unique abilities (Sabin's Bum Rush FTW) and an excellent plot and atmosphere.
See, I'd have known that had I played Final Fantasy III, since it's the only one I've never played, along with II.

It's pretty good, for a NES RPG. Nothing to write home about.

Zelda.

It's pretty good, for a NES RPG. Nothing to write home about.It easily rivals IV, I'd say.

Zelda.

Not a Final Fantasy game nor is it made by the same company. You fail at Japanese RPGs.

The definition of a Cruel Tease:

A PS3 demo recreating the FFVII opening cinema. With Advent Children-quality graphics. With no real declaration of any Cinematic Edition remakes.

It easily rivals IV, I'd say.

Yes, but I didn't like IV much, either.

Oh my...well...here's my top...er...six at least:

1. Final Fantasy VIII: I really identified with both Squall and Seifer, and I thought the love story brought a movie-like quality to the game. I've beaten this game more times than I can remember, and unlike so many other games, it never gets old. People give this game a bad rap for its magic system and its characters...and those are both reasons I think this game is the greatest FF ever.
2. Final Fantasy VII: The typical, default-answer, it's still an amazing game that really put the PlayStation on the map. Cloud's story is amazing, and I would not argue with anyone who put this game first.
3. Final Fantasy X: An emotional rollercoaster, FFX really captivated me the entire way through. I truly felt for Auron and Tidus, and I was really upset that the sequel sucked so bad, or existed at all for that matter. The ending to FFX was the most beautiful of the series.
4. Final Fantasy XII: It's totally different, and while I didn't take to its political intrigue as much as I did the other stories ranked above it, it simply has the most enjoyable battle system of any RPG ever. Vaan sucked, and Ashe was annoying, but Basch and Baltheir more than made up for it.
5. Final Fantasy IV: The first one I played, IV holds a special place in my heart. While RPG's of the day had simple storylines, FFIV significantly raised the bar, setting a standard for the series.
6. Final Fantasy Tactics: Certainly a weird mention, but it had to be mentioned, nevertheless. The story of religious betrayal is immense, and the ability to play as Cloud cannot be passed up.

As for the worst...it's a toss-up between FFIX, with dumbass monkey-boy Zidane and "Dagger," and FFX-2, which was basically Charlie's Angels in Spira. Which is worse? The world may never know...

I agree with 1-4, but for my #5, I'd prolly choose 9, and then after that, "Mysic Quest". As far as worst would be concerned. x-2, crystal chronicles and XI(yoou have to pay to play, after purchasing the game) upon the worst I have come across.

ZeldaNot a Final Fantasy game nor is it made by the same company. You fail at Japanese RPGs.

..or alternately, you fail at internet forum humor and sarcasm detection.

I'll leave it to the public to decide.

Unfortunately, due to lack of enough options, there will be no poll.
is that really a bad thing?

is that really a bad thing?

Depends.

...Fass plays video games? :confused:
Why wouldn't I? *ignores your VII trolling*
LOL
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I never played Final Fantasy and will try and avoid it for as long as possible.

Ffiv.

VII has to be my favourite.

o.O have I been graced by a god?

I agree with 1-4, but for my #5, I'd prolly choose 9, and then after that, "Mysic Quest". As far as worst would be concerned. x-2, crystal chronicles and XI(yoou have to pay to play, after purchasing the game) upon the worst I have come across.

I'd rather pay to play XI than play IX for free...

Anyone who says anything other than VII is wrong.

All of the final fantasy games are good fun, even the worst ones are still decent. But in comparison to the likes of Sephiroth, all things suck.

Praise Hojo! (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=200)

*note: to avoid confusion, I will use the Japanese numbers. For example: The American Final Fantasy II would be FFIV.

1. Final Fantasy. Can't beat the classics.
2. Final Fantasy III. Gets hard. It wasn't until the impossible dragon boss that I learned about the run ability. Hell, this was the first game where I ran from a boss successfully. My one complaint: pheonix downs need to be able to be bought.
3. Final Fantasy II. Great character development. Many playable characters died in this game. My two favorite martyrs are Josef and the dragoon guy.
4. Final Fantasy X. Great beginning and middle. Bosses get too cheap at the end.
5. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. The beginning is way toooo sloooooooooooooowwwwww.....
6. Final Fantasy VII. Boring. Overhyped. Nothing new. Proved that people will like anything if the graphics, at least the cutscenes, are shiny enough.

For my personal favorite it would be a tie between VI and IX. As for best, I'd have to say VI even though I absolutely adore IX.

6. Final Fantasy VII. Boring. Overhyped. Nothing new. Proved that people will like anything if the graphics, at least the cutscenes, are shiny enough.

Did you even get past Midgard, because my fanboy senses are saying no.

Anyone who says anything other than VII is wrong.

All of the final fantasy games are good fun, even the worst ones are still decent. But in comparison to the likes of Sephiroth, all things suck.

Praise Hojo! (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=200)

Please refer to my post as to why I think VI is better.

Wow, FFVIII really gets a lot of love on this forum. How... abnormal. :)



*Flames Quina, gets eaten*

I liked FFIX for about the first third of the game, then it just fell apart for me, in both story and gameplay. The battles just got too boring toward the end, and the final boss was a joke. I didn't even notice it was the final boss until the end cinematics started to roll...

You're fighting a GOD, how the hell do you not notice that that's the final boss?


Hated FFVII and FFIII (US). Loved FFII (US) and FFX and FFXII, and liked FFIX, and heck, I even played through FFI a few times and enjoyed it.

Please refer to my post as to why I think VI is better.

I read it, but a single line isn't going to change my opinion on my favorite game of all time.

I could only play 6 or 5 to maybe 3/4 the way through before I died of boredom. In fact the only character I remember is Kefka, and something about harnessing espers, but other than that 'meh'. The ghost train was really sad though.

Aerith's death was probably the pinnacle of gaming, and although I knew it was going to happen, I was still devastated emotionally. FFVII raped my adolescence. :(

Each characters stories really have a lot of signifigance. (except Yuffie and Cait Sith.)

Nanaki howling to his father, and then when the professor died was utterly tear jerking. :(

Barret having to fight Dyne.

Cloud and Zack's story.

Sephiroth going berserk was simply great.

Cloud becoming retarded. :p

and The Friggin Turks.

I read it, but a single line isn't going to change my opinion on my favorite game of all time.

I could only play 6 or 5 to maybe 3/4 the way through before I died of boredom. In fact the only character I remember is Kefka, and something about harnessing espers, but other than that 'meh'. The ghost train was really sad though.

Aerith's death was probably the pinnacle of gaming, and although I knew it was going to happen, I was still devastated emotionally. FFVII raped my adolescence. :(

Phoenix Down.

Each characters stories really have a lot of signifigance. (except Yuffie and Cait Sith.)

And Vincent.

Nanaki howling to his father, and then when the professor died was utterly tear jerking. :(

Soft needle.

Barret having to fight Dyne.

Cloud and Zack's story.

Sephiroth going berserk was simply great.

When is he not berserk other than in the flashbacks to before he was a tard?

Cloud becoming retarded. :p

Always was, in my opinion.

and The Friggin Turks.

Idiots, really..

Chrono Trigger.

You were playing a game you clearly did not understand. Poor thing.

Chrono Trigger.

AMEN. Why not include kingdom hearts, valkyrie profile (Enix), and even chocobo dungeon :p

You were playing a game you clearly did not understand. Poor thing.

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

You want me to rebut a post that is nothing short of opinion bashing?

You want me to rebut a post that is nothing short of opinion bashing?

Yesplz.

You were playing a game you clearly did not understand. Poor thing.



AMEN. Why not include kingdom hearts, valkyrie profile (Enix), and even chocobo dungeon :p

Chrono Trigger > pretty much any FF, unless I get the urge to play a specific one.

Also, Suikoden I is insane. It's not even ranked, to me, because it's so far above everything else. Above Chrono Trigger (yeah, I said it).

Kingdom Hearts ftl.

VP, I've heard nothing but good things about. I was considering downloading an ISO of it and playing it on my comp just for the experience.

EDIT: As well as Xenogears, because that's pretty much the same situation. Really good PS RPG I haven't played but feel like I should.

Chocobo Dungeon wasn't bad. I like those kinds of games occasionally.

Tactics is my favorite.

You were playing a game you clearly did not understand. Poor thing.



AMEN. Why not include kingdom hearts, valkyrie profile (Enix), and even chocobo dungeon :p

after seeing a youtube clip using that ,i don't think playing would be a good idea for me

Tactics is my favorite.

Which one? :P It kind of annoyed me they didn't call the GBA and PS versions two different things. Granted, I didn't like either one of them. Didn't like the PS version because it didn't allow for random battles, and therefore doesn't allow for powerleveling. I liked the first third of the GBA version, until the rules became fucking ridiculous (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=112), and I stopped playing on general principle.

VP, I've heard nothing but good things about. I was considering downloading an ISO of it and playing it on my comp just for the experience.
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Do it, do it NOW. Getting started is a pain, but once you get used to it, it's good fun.

Parasite Eve 1 and 2 = victory

Vincent's Story not signifigant? Nevermind it explained where Sephiroth came from.

Chrono Trigger > pretty much any FF

Amen!

Edit: Also Earthbound.

Do it, do it NOW. Getting started is a pain, but once you get used to it, it's good fun.

Parasite Eve 1 and 2 = victory

Vincent's Story not signifigant? Nevermind it explained where Sephiroth came from.

Indeed, PE1 and PE2 were godly. Like Resident Evil, but better in every way, and with RPG stuff. Yes, I'm bashing most RE's here... though I hail RE4 as one of the greats.

Vincent's story was insignificant enough for him to not even be a required character. He's optional.

And yeah I'll probably do it once I get back home in a few days.

Which one? :P It kind of annoyed me they didn't call the GBA and PS versions two different things. Granted, I didn't like either one of them. Didn't like the PS version because it didn't allow for random battles, and therefore doesn't allow for powerleveling. I liked the first third of the GBA version, until the rules became fucking ridiculous (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=112), and I stopped playing on general principle.

The real one, for the play station.

I don't know anything about the gba or the gba version.

The PS version did indeed have random battles... what are you talking about?

Do it, do it NOW. Getting started is a pain, but once you get used to it, it's good fun.

Parasite Eve 1 and 2 = victory

Vincent's Story not signifigant? Nevermind it explained where Sephiroth came from.

never played Parasite Eve 1 as it did not came out here,but Parasite Eve 2 what a game but the Boss at end was a pain

never played Parasite Eve 1 as it did not came out here,but Parasite Eve 2 what a game but the Boss at end was a pain

Agreed - you had to get that rapidfire grenade launcher thing and take it out that way, or use crazy lightning psi powers.

Indeed, PE1 and PE2 were godly. Like Resident Evil, but better in every way, and with RPG stuff. Yes, I'm bashing most RE's here... though I hail RE4 as one of the greats.

Vincent's story was insignificant enough for him to not even be a required character. He's optional.

And yeah I'll probably do it once I get back home in a few days.

Yuffie is optional, in fact I recommend avoiding her. Bitch stole my materia...twice!:mad:

You would have to be an idiot not to find Vincent, or just have that boss kick your ass into submission.

I too hate Resident Evil (In comparison to PE). Seriously why does this town have so many keys and puzzles?! Did they move all the engineering majors in the country to Racoon City?

Agreed - you had to get that rapidfire grenade launcher thing and take it out that way, or use crazy lightning psi powers.

now i just use the railgun on it

I never beat PE 1 because the very last boss always kept catching up to me at the absolute last screen :(

The real one, for the play station.

I don't know anything about the gba or the gba version.

The PS version did indeed have random battles... what are you talking about?

Nope, not in my experience. Went from battle to huge amount of talking to another battle, lather rinse repeat.

Another RPG I had hopes for and was disappointed with: Vagrant Story. Seemed really good, except for that damned equipment bullshit they pulled. Got really annoying after a while.

Legend of Dragoon was another one. It was alright, but the graphics were REALLY bad and the story was pretty bleh, and it always irks me when someone who's NOT the main character gets the badass storyline sword of righteousnses (Rose got it).

Yuffie is optional, in fact I recommend avoiding her. Bitch stole my materia...twice!:mad:

She was annoying as well, but her weapon had insane badass potential. Too bad they just didn't allow it to be so.

You would have to be an idiot not to find Vincent, or just have that boss kick your ass into submission.

Sure I FOUND the guy, but the fact that he's optional at all just makes me question the storyline.

I too hate Resident Evil (In comparison to PE). Seriously why does this town have so many keys and puzzles?! Did they move all the engineering majors in the country to Racoon City?

Easy answer: Lara Croft designed the entire city..

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it had to be her :mad:

Don't even get me started on Tomb Raider...

While not necessary, it still provides insight on the bad guy, which I think is pretty important. Also they should have made the final boss a lot harder than 1 summon/omnislash kill.

it had to be her :mad:

She also designed every city she's ever been in, even as a child, and designed her mansion so that she could trap her butler in the freezer.

She also designed every city she's ever been in, even as a child, and designed her mansion so that she could trap her butler in the freezer.

That old man scared the hell out of me. You would always hear the silverware rattling before he'd pop out of nowhere. :(

She also designed every city she's ever been in, even as a child, and designed her mansion so that she could trap her butler in the freezer.

that Bitch

Don't even get me started on Tomb Raider...

While not necessary, it still provides insight on the bad guy, which I think is pretty important. Also they should have made the final boss a lot harder than 1 summon/omnislash kill.

I think one of the things that irks me about FF7 now is now that AC has come out and it portrays Cloud as this weakass who can't do crap but whip out swords and block and miss everytime he swings, I'm like "Where's my level 99 mother fucker that had Ultima?" Guy can take out Sephiroth in one hit, but he has an infinite amount of trouble with mini-seph clones, and just barely eeks out a victory when the real Sephiroth comes out.

I think one of the things that irks me about FF7 now is now that AC has come out and it portrays Cloud as this weakass who can't do crap but whip out swords and block and miss everytime he swings, I'm like "Where's my level 99 mother fucker that had Ultima?" Guy can take out Sephiroth in one hit, but he has an infinite amount of trouble with mini-seph clones, and just barely eeks out a victory when the real Sephiroth comes out.

It wouldn't be a movie if Cloud killed all the clones with one Nights of the Round while riding on a gold chocobo instead of that goofy motorcycle.

It was fun to watch for me though. When sephiroth showed up I was litterally foaming at the mouth with pleasure.

That old man scared the hell out of me. You would always hear the silverware rattling before he'd pop out of nowhere. :(

It reminded me of zombies, that's why I kept his scary ass in the fridge.

It wouldn't be a movie if Cloud killed all the clones with one Nights of the Round while riding on a gold chocobo instead of that goofy motorcycle.

It was fun to watch for me though. When sephiroth showed up I was litterally foaming at the mouth with pleasure.

It would be a movie if they put a little thought into it. Let's say, after being killed, Seph joined with the lifestream and became a god (or god-like. Demigod if you want.), so Cloud has to find Aerith's spirit and join with her so he can have a link to the lifestream and have a chance at separating Seph from it and killing him once and for all - instead of just returning to the earth, returning to oblivion. They were on track with that disease thing, but they went way off with those henchmen cult guys that could kick Cloud's ass. Shit, TIFA put up a better fight than Cloud did.

As I see it, Seph shouldnt' have even had any intelligence - he meshed with the power of the universe. He should've been able to manifest demons (think KH's heartless, but more badass and impressive enough to not make you disappointed when Cloud didn't autokill them in one hit) out of nowhere, anywhere he wanted. Seph's character would be Seph + Kefka + Gygaas from Earthbound. That kinda crazy whacko oblivion type dealie.



I threw that together in roughly five minutes. I wasn't being paid, and I didn't have the creators of FFVII to consult with, and I still came up with something that I think is a better storyline than AC.

No fucking contest: Final Fantasy XII.

It's quite literally perfect. The only thing wrong with it is that it actually ends, though it takes around sixty hours for that to happen on the first time through it.

No fucking contest: Final Fantasy XII.

It's quite literally perfect. The only thing wrong with it is that it actually ends, though it takes around sixty hours for that to happen on the first time through it.

Everyone says that, but I just couldn't enjoy it. I didn't like the materia system at all, because it took forfuckingever to level it up.

Everyone says that, but I just couldn't enjoy it. I didn't like the materia system at all, because it took forfuckingever to level it up.

Well, it's just a Magick system, not a Materia system, so there's no leveling of said magicks (that's how they spell it in the game, so that's how I'm spelling it here). The licenses do take a lot of time to acquire, but within reason. It goes exceedingly well with the game's pace.

Of course, you can bypass a lot of good licenses and slingshot to the Accessories license that enables you to use a Golden Amulet, which doubles LP earned from killing fiends. It's really handy, seeing that I've almost completely filled Vaan's license board, and he's only at level 66. :p

Everyone says that, but I just couldn't enjoy it. I didn't like the materia system at all, because it took forfuckingever to level it up.

materia leveling was 7, not 12

I think one of the things that irks me about FF7 now is now that AC has come out and it portrays Cloud as this weakass who can't do crap but whip out swords and block and miss everytime he swings, I'm like "Where's my level 99 mother fucker that had Ultima?" Guy can take out Sephiroth in one hit, but he has an infinite amount of trouble with mini-seph clones, and just barely eeks out a victory when the real Sephiroth comes out.
Cloud's weakness, emotionally and physically, is an important aspect of the plot of Final Fantasy 7, and has been since long before Advent Children. He failed the prelims needed to enter Soldier and the experiments conducted on him left him completely comatose, needing to be rescued by his more capable friend. He spends most of the story completely incapable of accepting this. Throughout Crisis, Cloud and his merry party rely on the tools they gather along the way to keep up with their enemies; even the Turks progress physically at a faster rate than Avalanche. In fact, Cloud really only reaches First-Class Soldier level at about the time Weapon attacks Midgar.

Deprive Cloud of his fancy Materia and his Ultimate Weapon and he probably ends FF7 about as strong as the real Sephiroth was during the Nibelheim raid, even at his maximum experience level.

I threw that together in roughly five minutes. I wasn't being paid, and I didn't have the creators of FFVII to consult with, and I still came up with something that I think is a better storyline than AC.

I listened to the commentary and they wanted the movie to be about Cloud carrying the weight of Aerith's and Zacks death, considering the first one was him owning up to his lies and standing against his fear. That is very gay I know.

I like the idea of making it into just a badass brawl between Sephiroth fused with the Lifestream and Cloud. Instead they wanted to go with the emo storyline. :(

I'm not disapointed by it, but it didn't live up to what it could have been.

and Vincent, for some reason, could have pwned all 3 of the clones apparently. Didn't Sepiroth systematically kill all the clones anyway?

Didn't Sepiroth systematically kill all the clones anyway?
Not all of them, though enough of them to form a near-complete Jenova reunion. There were a large number of Jenova hosts created from Shinra's project, many of them Soldiers who would have been able to make use of the biological enhancements and could repress the side-effects. Zack, for instance, was noted during the Nibelheim experiments to have resisted the Jenova call. The presence of 1st and 2nd Class soldiers after the reunion took place suggests that there were considerably more individuals like this.

Not all of them, though enough of them to form a near-complete Jenova reunion. There were a large number of Jenova hosts created from Shinra's project, many of them Soldiers who would have been able to make use of the biological enhancements and could repress the side-effects. Zack, for instance, was noted during the Nibelheim experiments to have resisted the Jenova call. The presence of 1st and 2nd Class soldiers after the reunion took place suggests that there were considerably more individuals like this.

Ah I see.

*worships*

Ah I see.

*worships*
*Is major FF7 geek*

A lot of the fun in that game comes from working out what the heck is going on. ^_^