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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1324321.ece

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1170359775445&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Well, people have been predicting this for a while, that if Iran pushes it too far, Israel will snap and do something about it. In a very discrete way.

And that seems to be what's happened here. This man, who was a leading member of Iran's nuclear technology team (just technology, there is no indication that this man had any knowledge of weapon systems), has been killed by what has been called 'radioactive gassing'.

So, are scientists legitimate targets in regards to national defence? Does Mossad scare you with their elite skills? Is et cetera?

Discuss now.

It's perfectly alright if Isreal sends in agents into another country and executes a man without a trial or any other legal recourse in an attempt to sabotage a nation's scientific progress because to criticize Israel's actions as callous, cold and contrary to international standards of decency and sovereignty would be anti-semitic. :)

Might makes right, it would seem.

It's perfectly alright if Isreal sends in agents into another country and executes a man without a trial or any other legal recourse in an attempt to sabotage a nation's scientific progress because to criticize Israel's actions as callous, cold and contrary to international standards of decency and sovereignty would be anti-semitic. :)

I'm growing fonder of your correct cynicism as time passes.

I'm growing fonder of your correct cynicism as time passes.

I sprinkle it about sparingly; like saffron. :)

I sprinkle it about sparingly; like saffron. :)

How did you know that was my favourite spice? *starts to worry about fish soup spies*

A few things -

Freda Radio - Owned by the US State Dept.

Intelligence source 'suggested' assassination.

Hmmmm....so it was not a accident? After all the Iranian program has not been entirely accident free....

To me this sounds like a bullshit story until there is verification...

How did you know that was my favourite spice? *starts to worry about fish soup spies*

The CIA(Clown Intelligence Agency). We've been monitoring you for some time. :)

A few things -

Freda Radio - Owned by the US State Dept.

Intelligence source 'suggested' assassination.

Hmmmm....so it was not a accident? After all the Iranian program has not been entirely accident free....

To me this sounds like a bullshit story until there is verification...

And how are we going to get verification? Israel isn't going to admit it, and Iran isn't going to want to either.

I think the fact that its in the Times of London and the Jerusalem Post lends it quite a bit of credibility.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1324321.ece

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1170359775445&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Well, people have been predicting this for a while, that if Iran pushes it too far, Israel will snap and do something about it. In a very discrete way.

And that seems to be what's happened here. This man, who was a leading member of Iran's nuclear technology team (just technology, there is no indication that this man had any knowledge of weapon systems), has been killed by what has been called 'radioactive gassing'.

So, are scientists legitimate targets in regards to national defence? Does Mossad scare you with their elite skills? Is et cetera?

Discuss now.

if they fear Iran getting nukes why not just bomb the place like they bomb Iraqs nuclear power plant

And how are we going to get verification? Israel isn't going to admit it, and Iran isn't going to want to either.

I think the fact that its in the Times of London and the Jerusalem Post lends it quite a bit of credibility.

Look at the source...a US State Dept funded radio station and a source that suggested assassination.

Given that there are elements in the US and Israel that are spoiling for a barny makes me question the veracity of the assassination.

Chances are it was an accident which has been spun to make it seem it was a Mossad attack. Propaganda is great...stories like this will resonate with the Iranians and the West. Even if there is no basis in truth.

Verification - you are completely right. There is no way unless there is an in depth investigation by an independent. That will not happen in the current circumstances. Maybe in a few years things might be different. Who knows?

However I really am not going to believe that Mossad killed that scientist...look at where the guy was working. I say accident that has been spun into an assassination.

Mossad'd sounds like a hair style or getting pied.....

The CIA(Clown Intelligence Agency). We've been monitoring you for some time. :)

Damn, time to relocate my gimp again...

All I can say is that I admire LG greatly. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/FunnyClown.gif

One does have to wonder how the world would react if Iranian agents murdered Israeli scientists.

Meh, Israel know how the situation's going to pan out anyway:

1. Bush will refuse to back down on his 'Axis of Evil' rhetoric or to guarantee not to invade Iran. Consequently, Iran will continue with its weapons programme.

2. Ahmadinejad will continue to scream about the imminent demise of Israel.

3. Israel will finally give up on the UN and bomb Iranian enrichment centres.

4. Everyone will criticise Israel loudly to avoid losing their oil supplies while secretly being very glad that Iran isn't a nuclear power.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

if they fear Iran getting nukes why not just bomb the place like they bomb Iraqs nuclear power plant

There would be way too much media backlash. The Israeli's are probably the most media savvy government in the world.

Given that, it could have just been an unfortunate accident.

I'm growing fonder of your correct cynicism as time passes.

I sprinkle it about sparingly; like saffron. :)

Don't believe him Fassigen, Lunatic Goofballs is evil. *twitches*

Hear me out. LG compares his style as to using saffron. SAFFRON!

Most of the world's saffron comes from Iran. IRAN!

Thus he supports the major saffron country and all his 'cynacism is part of the anti-semitic plot to destroy the innocent and (not at all corrupt) lobby groups giving political donations to help the true just guardians of Israel's leaders: U.S.A Political parties and Evangelicals. They allow God to guide them to aid our leaders (who are most definately not the inferior extreme left [who people mistake for centrists] and the ultra extreme left[who people mistake for the left]). ULTRA EXTREME LEFT!

Next he'll be saying such things as that God's chosen will not be able to extend the land of Israel. Long live the holy (and not in anyway too powerful) Mossad. MOSSAD! *lots more twitches*

There would be way too much media backlash. The Israeli's are probably the most media savvy government in the world.

Given that, it could have just been an unfortunate accident.

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oh for those who don't of it watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svzzrvN92Pg

Of course this 'assassination' is not verifiable. It all sounds very vague and gossipy.

However, Israel does have a history of assassinating people it deems a threat to its security. The Iranian nuclear programme is a threat to Israeli security. Therefore, the scientists working for that programme are threats. Logically and pragmatically, killing those scientists will hurt the programme and benefit Israel's security.

Pragmatism aside, is it ethical to murder people for 'the greater good?' Iran seems to be very aggressive in its stance on Israel and The West. Iran should not have any nuclear programme until it can be reasonably trusted not to use that programme to make weapons. To what lengths is that bastion of civilisation, democracy, and good hummus in the Middle East, Israel, justified in going?

Israel will bomb Iran's nuclear enrichment facilities if Iran doesn't halt that enrichment. I'm not sure anyone would dispute this. Clandestine killings in the night are less provocative than overt bombing raids beneath the noon-day sun. In the interests of not-war (don't want to say peace...damn, knock on wood) in the Middle East, I have no problem with assassination. So long as Israel denies it publicaly for the interests of appearing to aspire some higher ethical code.

Well well....

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-02/05/content_5696356.htm

Tehran denies reports on scientist's "assassination"
TEHRAN, Feb. 4 (Xinhua) -- Tehran has denied recent reports that an Iranian nuclear scientist had been "assassinated" by Israeli security service Mossad, local Fars news agency reported on Sunday.

Ardeshire Hassanpour, a 44-year-old Iranian nuclear physicist, had been "suffocated by fumes from a faulty gas fire in sleep," Fars quoted an unidentified "informed source" as saying, denying his "assassination" by Mossad as some reports said.

...

One does have to wonder how the world would react if Iranian agents murdered Israeli scientists.

With total outrage. Israel maintains its own right to threaten the lives of its own scientists (read: Mordechai Vanunu)

Seriously, I agree. I think placing a hit on someone who is only in it for the physics is crossing a line.

Don't believe him Fassigen, Lunatic Goofballs is evil. *twitches*

Hear me out. LG compares his style as to using saffron. SAFFRON!

Most of the world's saffron comes from Iran. IRAN!

Thus he supports the major saffron country and all his 'cynacism is part of the anti-semitic plot to destroy the innocent and (not at all corrupt) lobby groups giving political donations to help the true just guardians of Israel's leaders: U.S.A Political parties and Evangelicals. They allow God to guide them to aid our leaders (who are most definately not the inferior extreme left [who people mistake for centrists] and the ultra extreme left[who people mistake for the left]). ULTRA EXTREME LEFT!

Next he'll be saying such things as that God's chosen will not be able to extend the land of Israel. Long live the holy (and not in anyway too powerful) Mossad. MOSSAD! *lots more twitches*

*several CIA agents descend from the rafters silently, like ninjas with big red noses and drag Soleichunn up and out of sight*

The CIA(Clown Intelligence Agency).

The more popular term (overseas at least) is Culinary Institute of America. No idea how that came about.:p

Well well....

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-02/05/content_5696356.htm

Says Xinhua... the mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party.

Excuse me if I trust the Times of London more, kthanxbai.

Says Xinhua... the mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party.

Excuse me if I trust the Times of London more, kthanxbai.

Oh I am not taking this as gospel. Just bemused that the denial came so slowly.

Informed sourced ;)

I still would say that this was an accident. It just does not smack of a Mossad op.

Have you heard of Gerald Bull? That is the way Mossad works.

Israel again legitimizes military attacks against it.

Israel again legitimizes military attacks against it.

What...you are willing to wage war based on suggestions and anonymous 'informed sources'?

Discuss now.

You're pretty demanding. :mad:

What...you are willing to wage based on suggestions and anonymous 'informed sources'?

Assuming the israelis did murder the guy...

if not, this is a non-story.

Assuming the israelis did murder the guy...

if not, this is a non-story.

Thats not what I asked but what the hell 'eh?

*Escapes the CIA by claiming to be an Austrian and quickly sends a ROT26 encrypted message*

Why would the CIA (inferior, yet useful stooges for Mossad's great abilities) want to kidnap me for exposing Lunatic Goofballs as an agent for the Iranians?

Who cares if Iran does get a nuclear bomb, we have ten thousand nuclear bombs. Their nuclear penis cannot possibly hope to compete with ours in size. Excuse me while I re-measure ours, just to be sure ...

Who cares if Iran does get a nuclear bomb, we have ten thousand nuclear bombs. Their nuclear penis cannot possibly hope to compete with ours in size. Excuse me while I re-measure ours, just to be sure ...You have a nuclear penis?

Israel again legitimizes military attacks against it.Someone should get Russia to nuke it. :rolleyes: ...or China

You have a nuclear penis?

We don't like to talk about it, but yeah. It has straps, you know ... :eek: :D *runs away*

Thats not what I asked but what the hell 'eh?

The only sense I could make out of your question was

"so there should be a war based on a sketchy, not necessarily true report that the mossad was responsible"

I don't think there ought to be a war, I think israel should return to its legal borders and renounce its violent apartheid against the palestinians.

Israel however opens itself to just and legitimate attack by doing things like this which are wrong.

This is a VERY stupid move on the part of Israel. Both countries are known to make moutains out of a molehill; Israel with their War with Lebanon last year that left innocent millions dead because of 2 Israeli soldiers) and Iran with who-knows-what. They can snap at any time.

If Iran responds with war, the U.S. will respond with war, along with it's allies. HOWEVER, Ali Khameni and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad aren't dumb: they know not to war with Israel (because of it's allies).

I hate Israel, but that's another story. Israel had a good reason to do this but it was a dumb move.

The only sense I could make out of your question was

"so there should be a war based on a sketchy, not necessarily true report that the mossad was responsible"

I don't think there ought to be a war, I think israel should return to its legal borders and renounce its violent apartheid against the palestinians.

Israel however opens itself to just and legitimate attack by doing things like this which are wrong.But why should the self-styled chosen seed care what injustice they do to others?

The only sense I could make out of your question was

"so there should be a war based on a sketchy, not necessarily true report that the mossad was responsible"

I don't think there ought to be a war, I think israel should return to its legal borders and renounce its violent apartheid against the palestinians.

Israel however opens itself to just and legitimate attack by doing things like this which are wrong.

No. I did not reference any nation in my question.

What...you are willing to wage [war]* based on suggestions and anonymous 'informed sources'?

* I edited my post as it was missing the word war - you might have missed it.

Its no biggy. I suspect you would not.

It just helps being precise.

You have a nuclear penis?

Yes, and it's fucking huge.

This is a VERY stupid move on the part of Israel. Both countries are known to make moutains out of a molehill; Israel with their War with Lebanon last year that left innocent millions dead because of 2 Israeli soldiers) and Iran with who-knows-what. They can snap at any time.

If Iran responds with war, the U.S. will respond with war, along with it's allies. HOWEVER, Ali Khameni and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad aren't dumb: they know not to war with Israel (because of it's allies).

I hate Israel, but that's another story. Israel had a good reason to do this but it was a dumb move.

innocent millions dead? which fantasy book is that from?

Yes, and it's fucking huge.

And it glows in the dark!

And it glows in the dark!

Listen to this man. He knows what he's talking about.

innocent millions dead? which fantasy book is that from?

It's from the fantasy book called "Reality". It can also be found in the book "History of 2006".

If you've been under a rock during that whole war, innocent Lebanese people died. Israel knows, and you and I know, that not every single Lebanese person were supporting and helping Hizbollah.

EDIT: "Millions" was the wrong amount, "thousands" is correct.

It's from the fantasy book called "Reality". It can also be found in the book "History of 2006".

If you've been under a rock during that whole war, innocent Lebanese people died. Israel knows, and you and I know, that not every single Lebanese person were supporting and helping Hizbollah.

Reality? Son...millions did not die. :rolleyes:

It's from the fantasy book called "Reality". It can also be found in the book "History of 2006".

If you've been under a rock during that whole war, innocent Lebanese people died. Israel knows, and you and I know, that not every single Lebanese person were supporting and helping Hizbollah.

The highest estimate for the number of total casualties (IDF, Hezbollah, and civilians combined) is less than three thousand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War

Oops! Did you say "millions"?

The highest estimate for the number of total casualties (IDF, Hezbollah, and civilians combined) is less than three thousand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War

Oops! Did you say "millions"?

Apparently it was Reality...

Sources in the Pentagon are confirming today that the Iranian scientist was killed by Dan Haggerty.

Sources in the Pentagon are confirming today that the Iranian scientist was killed by Dan Haggerty.

Was this before or after he was drunk? Did he slam the man's head into a glass door?

It's from the fantasy book called "Reality". It can also be found in the book "History of 2006".

If you've been under a rock during that whole war, innocent Lebanese people died. Israel knows, and you and I know, that not every single Lebanese person were supporting and helping Hizbollah.

EDIT: "Millions" was the wrong amount, "thousands" is correct.

LOL. Millions? Wikipedia reports 1,000~ lebanese killed. Assuming wiki is remotely accurate, thats at least a 2,000th of your claim.

Should Israel have done it? Most certainly. If Iran gets a bomb, all it takes is a single plane to sneak under Israeli RADAR and drop their makeshift weapon on Tel-Aviv. Israel - and the Anglosphere should show Iran we're not letting them get the bomb.

LOL. Millions? Wikipedia reports 1,000~ lebanese killed. Assuming wiki is remotely accurate, thats at least a 2,000th of your claim.

LOL. Edits? Icovir reports 1,000~ lebanese killed. Assuming icovir is rremotely accurate, thats at least 1 person answered.

So if the US used the OSS to kill a few Nazi scientists before they could finish their nuclear program and develop the atom bomb. Would that be justified? Or if British MI-6 agents, or the French/Polish Underground?(doubt that it had happened but i'm just drawing a parallel here)


Would that be justifiable?

I guess it depends on whether or not the possible ramifications of an Iranian bomb are worse than the moral issue of killing a scientist who is involved in the nuclear program.

I guess it depends on whether or not the possible ramifications of an Iranian bomb are worse than the moral issue of killing a scientist who is involved in the nuclear program.

We should kill people for knowing too much?

It's hardly appropriate under any circumstances short of all out war.

I guess it depends on whether or not the possible ramifications of an Iranian bomb are worse than the moral issue of killing a scientist who is involved in the nuclear program.

your from Mentor? no shit, I go to the University of Akron.


I think the ramifications of the Iranians having a bomb would be very bad for the west in general and the whole middle east as well.

And seriously in a country floating on an ocean of oil, why do they have a need for nuclear energy?

I guess it depends on whether or not the possible ramifications of an Iranian bomb are worse than the moral issue of killing a scientist who is involved in the nuclear program.

We should kill people for knowing too much?

It's hardly appropriate under any circumstances short of all out war.

*Escapes the CIA by claiming to be an Austrian and quickly sends a ROT26 encrypted message*

Why would the CIA (inferior, yet useful stooges for Mossad's great abilities) want to kidnap me for exposing Lunatic Goofballs as an agent for the Iranians?

Not THAT CIA. They wouldn't know their assholes from rice krispies. I'm talking about the CLOWN Intelligence Agency. We are elite. :)

So if the US used the OSS to kill a few Nazi scientists before they could finish their nuclear program and develop the atom bomb. Would that be justified? Or if British MI-6 agents, or the French/Polish Underground?(doubt that it had happened but i'm just drawing a parallel here)


Would that be justifiable?

No. Whether it happened or not is part of history. But that doesn't make it right.

It's perfectly alright if Isreal sends in agents into another country and executes a man without a trial or any other legal recourse in an attempt to sabotage a nation's scientific progress because to criticize Israel's actions as callous, cold and contrary to international standards of decency and sovereignty would be anti-semitic. :)

And never mind their own secret stash of WMDs.

Fat joke these chronic sponges have their economy underwritten for them by Western nations with actual economies.

From now on I'm using "Mossad'd" to mean "screwed over"

your from Mentor? no shit, I go to the University of Akron.


I think the ramifications of the Iranians having a bomb would be very bad for the west in general and the whole middle east as well.

And seriously in a country floating on an ocean of oil, why do they have a need for nuclear energy?

They get to look powerful by effectively saying to the rest of the world "you didn't want us to do it and we did it anyway". Status etc.

And seriously in a country floating on an ocean of oil, why do they have a need for nuclear energy?

I always hear people making this argument - but to me it makes perfect sense that an oil-producing nation would want to develope alternative energy sources, in order so that they would more oil to sell to others. As well as being able to secure their own energy depency in the case of their oil running out, or being controlled by an opposing power.

I always hear people making this argument - but to me it makes perfect sense that an oil-producing nation would want to develope alternative energy sources, in order so that they would more oil to sell to others. As well as being able to secure their own energy depency in the case of their oil running out, or being controlled by an opposing power.Not to mention it's cleaner, cheaper, more efficient & works nicely as a cover for a nuclear weapons program.

Yet another example of the deeds of the illegal and criminal Zionist regime...

Not to mention it's cleaner, cheaper, more efficient & works nicely as a cover for a nuclear weapons program.

Well, Israel managed to get their own secret nukes through having their economy sufficiently underwritten by the West to finance it. At least Iran has the wherewithal to do it themselves, and not a tenth a bit as sneakily.

Well, Israel managed to get their own secret nukes through having their economy sufficiently underwritten by the West to finance it. At least Iran has the wherewithal to do it themselves, and not a tenth a bit as sneakily.

Don't forget the Apartheid regime in SA helping the Zionists are secret allies to test the bomb...

Radioactive gas...what a way to die...

Don't forget the Apartheid regime in SA helping the Zionists are secret allies to test the bomb...

I'm afraid I'm not quite following your banter there, squiffy.

Radioactive gas...what a way to die...

There was one time after I ate a steak and bean burrito with habanero sauce...

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1324321.ece

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1170359775445&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Well, people have been predicting this for a while, that if Iran pushes it too far, Israel will snap and do something about it. In a very discrete way.

And that seems to be what's happened here. This man, who was a leading member of Iran's nuclear technology team (just technology, there is no indication that this man had any knowledge of weapon systems), has been killed by what has been called 'radioactive gassing'.

So, are scientists legitimate targets in regards to national defence? Does Mossad scare you with their elite skills? Is et cetera?

Discuss now.

You can;t stop Mossad.....once they've started.......you're fucked

You can;t stop Mossad.....once they've started.......you're fuckedOf course you can. Simply withdraw western support completely for a handful of years.

Of course you can. Simply withdraw western support completely for a handful of years.

Works for me. Though I'd extend that handful of years to a smidgen of decades.

Iran has a better reach than both America and Israel combined as you have witnessed the Lebanon war, the Iraq war and so on. If these two countries (America and Israel) can reach to Iran's most notable scientist within Iran then why can they stop Iranian involvement in the region already? The poor scientist must have died of work related accident and these two countries are acting like they were behind it. If these two nations are willing to kill Iran's citizens to gain their ultimate goal and then why can't Iran also play this kind of dirty game? So America and Israel are not that stupid enough to play this game called Russian rullet. It's Bush's own doing :D he alienated those countries (Iran, Iraq and North Korea); he wouldn't be diplomatic enough and painted their leaders as "Axis of evil":D can't blame them for trying to survive. After the first humiliating defeat in the Gulf war 1 experienced by the Iraqis and now they got Americans walking on their streets yelling at them in English "STOP, SLOW DOWN, SIT, FACE THE GROUND, HAJI, SAND n#$%er, SHUT THE F#CK UP" and the poor Iraqis have no clue because they can't understand them, but then again, American troops don't understand Arabic as well and they also have no clue all the resentment growing around them. Funny thing, they say why are American troops given the cold shoulder in Iraq? hmm- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTfxmfYaukw&mode=related&search= I wouldn't be surprised if the Iraqi men in that footage end up joining the insurgency, some foreigners coming to their land and driving a tank on their car for carrying wood, man, they must be out of their mind, Americans are out of their minds.

I sprinkle it about sparingly; like saffron. :)

Can get you pounds of that spice for next to nothing.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1324321.ece

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1170359775445&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Well, people have been predicting this for a while, that if Iran pushes it too far, Israel will snap and do something about it. In a very discrete way.

And that seems to be what's happened here. This man, who was a leading member of Iran's nuclear technology team (just technology, there is no indication that this man had any knowledge of weapon systems), has been killed by what has been called 'radioactive gassing'.

Props to Israel for doing what needs to be done. The Tehran moolah-crats and their butt-monkey A-Muddy-Dinner-Jacket are messing with the wrong country.

We should be taking a page out of Israel's playbook. If we aren't already ;)

Props to Israel for doing what needs to be done. The Tehran moolah-crats and their butt-monkey A-Muddy-Dinner-Jacket are messing with the wrong country.

We should be taking a page out of Israel's playbook. If we aren't already ;)

Taking pages? You've been locked in the can with a dog-eared copy of their entire playbook for six years, already.

I do wish you'd remember to flush occasionally, btw.

Works for me. Though I'd extend that handful of years to a smidgen of decades.Why? I mean, it's not like there'd be an Israel to fund.

Why? I mean, it's not like there'd be an Israel to fund.

How long would you honestly give them if their sources of free money were all dried up?

I always hear people making this argument - but to me it makes perfect sense that an oil-producing nation would want to develope alternative energy sources, in order so that they would more oil to sell to others. As well as being able to secure their own energy depency in the case of their oil running out, or being controlled by an opposing power.

The amount of oil they sell is controlled by OPEC which I'm sure it'd be cheaper in the long run to just use their own supply. Besides if they released more oil onto the market, the prices would plummet, which they could try to do to bring Saudi and the gulf states into their camp and into their control. I'm still not thinking a radical islamic state that has promised to wipe another soveirgn nation off the map and gain the ability to attack the west. (Europe your a lot easier to hit than the US).


And I don't think knocking off a scientist developing a weapons program is wrong, its just an indirect form of attacking the weapons program itself, its lower key, causes more damage in the long run than an airstrike(trained personnell are much harder to replace than machinery) and causes much less collateral death. I mean how would you feel if an airstrike against the program killed a lot of under educated unskilled workers instead?

How long would you honestly give them if their sources of free money were all dried up?

With only a 7 million population I would say not long.

How long would you honestly give them if their sources of free money were all dried up?

Considering they have nukes... quite a while.

Considering they have nukes... quite a while.

Keeping those birds flight-ready costs.

How long would you honestly give them if their sources of free money were all dried up?It's too theoretical to really answer, but I doubt it'd be a decade before a successful, unified attempt at obliterating Israel was launched, and it'd prolly be over fairly quickly.

Keeping those birds flight-ready costs.

Yeah. And Israel can pay. They have other places they can cut back.

This evidence of Israeli involvement strikes me as being about as solid as the evidence of Saddam's WMD program. Fuck, if Israel was involved, why kill just one scientist? Why not sabotage the site to kill as many nuclear scientists and technicians as possible?

How long would you honestly give them if their sources of free money were all dried up?

Ages. They managed pretty well before foreign aid, and US millitary aid only began after Israel won the Six Day War.