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I am writing this letter in simple English in order that everyone can read and understand my words. With this letter, I hope to oppose evil wherever it rears its two-faced, cantankerous head. But first, I would like to make the following introductory remark: In order to solve the big problems with Israel, we must first understand these problems, and to understand them, we must mention a bit about power-drunk sewer rats such as Israel. "Israel" has now become part of my vocabulary. Whenever I see someone represent heaven as hell and, conversely, the most wretched life as paradise, I tell him or her to stop "Israel-ing". As will be discussed in more detail later in this letter, Israel is right about one thing, namely that fear is what motivates us. Fear of what it means when abysmal yutzes undermine the individualistic underpinnings of traditional jurisprudence. Fear of what it says about our society when we teach our children that Israel is omnipotent. And fear of indelicate grifters like Israel who foment malignant forms of political tyranny. Let's be realistic: Israel's obnoxious machinations are in full flower, and their poisonous petals of larrikinism are blooming all around us.

Israel would have us believe that character development is not a matter of "strength through adversity" but rather, "entitlement through victimization". That, of course, is nonsense, total nonsense. But Israel is surrounded by mad oafs who parrot the same nonsense, which is why we should agree on definitions before saying anything further about its covinous notions. For starters, let's say that "chauvinism" is "that which makes Israel yearn to defend negativism, obscurantism, and notions of racial superiority." To pigeonhole people into predetermined categories is Israel's objective, and incontinent hooliganism is its method. You may make the comment, "What does this have to do with foul abusive-types?" Well, once you begin to see the light, you'll realize that I can no longer get very excited about any revelation of Israel's hypocrisy or crookedness. It's what I've come to expect by now. Notice the dictatorial tendency of Israel's obiter dicta. Israel plans to gag free speech. The result will be an amalgam of insane fanaticism and crotchety anti-intellectualism, if such a monster can be imagined.

Faith is harder to shake than knowledge, love succumbs less to change than respect, hate is more enduring than aversion, and even officious, immature mattoids are ashamed of being associated with Israel's garrulous reasoning and tactless bruta fulmina. The sooner it comes to grips with that reality, the better for all of us. One might conclude that Israel can't be trusted. Alternatively, one might conclude that Israel's cronies don't see the chaos that will be unleashed if they get their way and let advanced weaponry fall into the hands of the worst classes of amateurish, drugged-out casuists there are. In either case, my general thesis is that Israel just reported that the worst kinds of pushy psychopaths there are should be fêted at wine-and-cheese fund-raisers. Do you think that that's merely sloppy reporting on Israel's part? I don't. I think that it's a deliberate attempt to exert more and more control over other individuals. I'll talk a lot more about that later, but first let me finish my general thesis: You may be wondering why the worst sorts of selfish moochers there are latch onto Israel's values. It's because people of that nature need to have rhetoric and dogma to recite during times of stress in order to cope. That's also why our conception of antagonism still remains a good deal less clear than we would wish. No joke.

What we're involved in with Israel is not a game. It's the most serious possible business, and every serious person -- every person with any shred of a sense of responsibility -- must concern himself with it. The next time Israel decides to arouse inter-ethnic suspicion, it should think to itself, cui bono? -- who benefits?

To those few who disagree with some of the things I've written, I ask for your tolerance. Even so, Israel likes thinking thoughts that aren't burdensome and that feel good. That's why it will probably throw another hissy fit if we don't let it impale us on the pike of statism. At least putting up with another Israel hissy fit is easier than convincing Israel's drones that if you don't think that Israel has nothing but contempt for responsibility, duty, and honor, then you've missed the whole point of this letter. Unlike Israel, when I make a mistake I'm willing to admit it. Consequently, if -- and I'm bending over backwards to maintain the illusion of "innocent until proven guilty" -- it were not actually responsible for trying to batten on the credulity of the ignorant, then I'd stop saying that Israel will stop at nothing to herald the death of intelligent discourse on college campuses. This may sound outrageous, but if it were fiction I would have thought of something more credible. As it stands, if we can understand what has caused the current plague of intellectually challenged, sex-crazed ranters, I believe that we can then chastise Israel for not doing any research before spouting off. What, then, does "unexceptionableness" mean? It means considerably more than any dictionary is likely to say.

This is particularly interesting when you consider that Israel has a glib proficiency with words and very sensitive nostrils. It can smell money in your pocket from a block away. Once that delicious aroma reaches Israel's nostrils, it'll start talking about the joy of misoneism and how its platitudes won't be used for political retribution. As you listen to Israel's sing-song, chances are you won't even notice its hand as it goes into your pocket. Only later, after you realize you've been robbed, will you truly understand that the key to its soul is its longing for the effortless, irresponsible, automatic consciousness of an animal. Israel dreads the necessity, the risk, and the responsibility of rational cognition. As a result, most people want to be nice; they want to be polite; they don't want to give offense. And because of this inherent politeness, they step aside and let Israel perpetuate the nonsense known technically as the analytic/synthetic dichotomy. It's our responsibility to do something about the continuing -- make that the escalating -- effort on Israel's part to insult the intelligence, interests, and life plans of whole groups of people. That's the first step in trying to shoo it away like the annoying bug that it is, and it's the only way to study the problem and recommend corrective action. I don't care what others say about Israel. It's still cold-blooded, stolid, and it intends to scapegoat easy, unpopular targets, thereby diverting responsibility from more culpable parties.

Israel's claim that it defends the real needs of the working class is not only an attack on the concept of objectivity, but an assault on the human mind. As for the lies and exaggerations, Israel is guided by the ignis fatuus of antipluralism. The logical consequences of that are clear: Every time Israel tries, it gets increasingly successful in its attempts to cause pain and injury to those who don't deserve it. This dangerous trend means not only death for free thought, but for imagination as well. Teenagers who want to shock their parents sometimes maintain -- with a straight face -- that the purpose of life is self-gratification. Fortunately, most parents don't fall for this fraud because they know that if you've read any of the headlong slop that Israel has concocted, you'll indeed recall Israel's description of its plan to dissolve the bonds that join individuals to their natural communities. If you haven't read any of it, well, all you really need to know is that if Israel can't be reasoned out of its prejudices, it must be laughed out of them. If Israel can't be argued out of its selfishness, it must be shamed out of it. In closing, I consider this letter to be required reading for everyone who still cares that Israel is lying to itself if it thinks that everything is happy and fine and good. Unfortunately, with our nation's media being as controlled as it is, there's no way that this letter will be widely publicized. Therefore, I'm counting on you to pass on this letter to all of your e-mail contacts. Thank you.

What ze 'ell...

wow thats an impressively long flamebait. we dont often get people who go to such an effort to piss people off

wow thats an impressively long flamebait. we dont often get people who go to such an effort to piss people off

lol... He prolly c/p'd it.

...I am writing this letter in simple English...

Ridiculous flummery does not equal "simple English".

*gigglez*

http://www.realestate.umn.edu/images/confused%5B2%5D.jpg

lol... He prolly c/p'd it.

maybe he got it in his own email. a sample phrase came up empty on google.

I am writing this letter in simple English in order that everyone can read and understand my words.

Having said this, our verbose friend goes on to write:

Israel's obnoxious machinations are in full flower, and their poisonous petals of larrikinism are blooming all around us.

Notice the dictatorial tendency of Israel's obiter dicta.

and even officious, immature mattoids are ashamed of being associated with Israel's garrulous reasoning and tactless bruta fulmina.

cui bono?

That's why it will probably throw another hissy fit if we don't let it impale us on the pike of statism.

This is particularly interesting when you consider that Israel has a glib proficiency with words

Pot? Kettle?

the joy of misoneism and how its platitudes won't be used for political retribution.

Israel is guided by the ignis fatuus of antipluralism.

What's more, despite numerous references to his/her "thesis", we are presented with nothing beyond "the evil Jews are after your money!!1!". ATGNAU clearly has an inflated sense of his/her own importance, and little sense of irony, even going so far as to accuse Israel of 'rhetoric', while presenting little more than empty sophistry.

In closing, I consider this letter to be required reading for everyone who still cares that Israel is lying to itself if it thinks that everything is happy and fine and good. Unfortunately, with our nation's media being as controlled as it is, there's no way that this letter will be widely publicized. Therefore, I'm counting on you to pass on this letter to all of your e-mail contacts. Thank you.

Thank you, you've given me a good laugh and broken up the monotony of my maths work.

too long for me to read. Anyone want to paraphrase?

too long for me to read. Anyone want to paraphrase?

Babel Fish Translator Says:

"LOL! I accidentally swallowed a thesaurus ftw!1!!eleven!!"

too long for me to read. Anyone want to paraphrase?

israel pretends that its great but it sucks.

too long for me to read. Anyone want to paraphrase?

We give Israel too much £££?

israel pretends that its great but it sucks.

Ah, thanks. The OP seemed awfully rambling and spammy, why couldn't they have just said that.

it might be in simple english. but i can't tell because it's so long i can't be bothered to start reading it.

I read about two paragraphs before I became convinced that I had got the gist of the entire thing and gave up.

http://www.realestate.umn.edu/images/confused%5B2%5D.jpg

Is that Spanky?

Edit: I think it is him, from "The Little Rascals"-"Our Gang", wasn't sure though... It's cute hehe. he's dressed up like a little girl.

Is that Spanky?
It's whatever came up on google images. I saw it on the front of a birthday card.

EDIT: Now I'm contributing to the caveman-speak.

You know what? It is all England's fault. After the Great War we promised the Zionists and the Arabs the land which is now Israel. The Arabs attacked Israel because they thought it was theirs (and they also hate Jews). That is why there is a big mess between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

You know what? It is all England's fault. After the Great War we promised the Zionists and the Arabs the land which is now Israel. The Arabs attacked Israel because they thought it was theirs (and they also hate Jews). That is why there is a big mess between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

I agree wholeheartedly. It will undoubtedly surprise some people to hear me say this, but England's merciless attempts to pit the haves against the have-nots are well-nigh unforgivable. It is requisite, even in this summary sketch, to go back a few years to see how it would be wrong to imply that it is involved in some kind of conspiracy to undermine the current world order. It would be wrong because its accusations are far beyond the conspiracy stage. Not only that, but of all of its exaggerations and incorrect comparisons, one in particular stands out: "Might makes right." I don't know where it came up with this, but its statement is dead wrong. Call me a cynic, but if one could get a Ph.D. in Dadaism, England would be the first in line to have one. England has been doing "in-depth research" (whatever it thinks that means) to prove that it does the things it does "for the children". I should mention that I've been doing some research of my own. So far, I've "discovered" that England can fool some of the people all of the time. It can fool all of the people some of the time. But it can't fool all of the people all of the time. To say merely that there is unquestionably reason to fear that heinous scofflaws will generate an epidemic of corruption and social unrest some day is an understatement. Let me finish by saying merely that England and its sympathizers are wolves in sheep's clothing who will treat traditional values as if they were stroppy crimes sooner or later.

Israel's a nice country, but I didn't like the food much. Too much fiber I guess. The falafels were good though.

Tl;dr

I agree wholeheartedly. It will undoubtedly surprise some people to hear me say this, but England's merciless attempts to pit the haves against the have-nots are well-nigh unforgivable. It is requisite, even in this summary sketch, to go back a few years to see how it would be wrong to imply that it is involved in some kind of conspiracy to undermine the current world order. It would be wrong because its accusations are far beyond the conspiracy stage. Not only that, but of all of its exaggerations and incorrect comparisons, one in particular stands out: "Might makes right." I don't know where it came up with this, but its statement is dead wrong. Call me a cynic, but if one could get a Ph.D. in Dadaism, England would be the first in line to have one. England has been doing "in-depth research" (whatever it thinks that means) to prove that it does the things it does "for the children". I should mention that I've been doing some research of my own. So far, I've "discovered" that England can fool some of the people all of the time. It can fool all of the people some of the time. But it can't fool all of the people all of the time. To say merely that there is unquestionably reason to fear that heinous scofflaws will generate an epidemic of corruption and social unrest some day is an understatement. Let me finish by saying merely that England and its sympathizers are wolves in sheep's clothing who will treat traditional values as if they were stroppy crimes sooner or later.


roflmao
youre getting that shit from some auto-speech-making site arent you?

I don't usually criticize other people for voicing their opinions. I don't care what you believe or what you think, you certainly do have a right to that belief. However, when attempting to relate such a viewpoint to other people, it is best to support one's statements with at least a cursory amount of evidence, or logic.
To that end I must state in all honesty: I have never seen such a driveling collection of misplaced and rambling rhetoric in quite some time on NSG, and can't decide if you have set up a verbose and length piece of flamebait, or genuinely believe this.

of course, what they really wanted to say is:
I am writing this letter in simple English in order that everyone can read and understand my words. With this letter, I hope to oppose evil wherever it rears its two-faced, cantankerous head. But first, I would like to make the following introductory remark: In order to solve the big problems with the Jews, we must first understand these problems, and to understand them, we must mention a bit about power-drunk sewer rats such as the Jews. "Jew" has now become part of my vocabulary. Whenever I see someone represent heaven as hell and, conversely, the most wretched life as paradise, I tell him or her to stop "Jew-ing". As will be discussed in more detail later in this letter, the Jews are right about one thing, namely that fear is what motivates us. Fear of what it means when abysmal yutzes undermine the individualistic underpinnings of traditional jurisprudence. Fear of what it says about our society when we teach our children that the Jews are omnipotent. And fear of indelicate grifters like the Jews who foment malignant forms of political tyranny. Let's be realistic: the Jews' obnoxious machinations are in full flower, and their poisonous petals of larrikinism are blooming all around us.

the Jews would have us believe that character development is not a matter of "strength through adversity" but rather, "entitlement through victimization". That, of course, is nonsense, total nonsense. But the Jews are surrounded by mad oafs who parrot the same nonsense, which is why we should agree on definitions before saying anything further about their covinous notions. For starters, let's say that "chauvinism" is "that which makes the Jews yearn to defend negativism, obscurantism, and notions of racial superiority." To pigeonhole people into predetermined categories is the Jews' objective, and incontinent hooliganism is their method. You may make the comment, "What does this have to do with foul abusive-types?" Well, once you begin to see the light, you'll realize that I can no longer get very excited about any revelation of the Jews' hypocrisy or crookedness. It's what I've come to expect by now. Notice the dictatorial tendency of the Jews' obiter dicta. The Jews plan to gag free speech. The result will be an amalgam of insane fanaticism and crotchety anti-intellectualism, if such a monster can be imagined.

Faith is harder to shake than knowledge, love succumbs less to change than respect, hate is more enduring than aversion, and even officious, immature mattoids are ashamed of being associated with the Jews' garrulous reasoning and tactless bruta fulmina. The sooner they comes to grips with that reality, the better for all of us. One might conclude that the Jews can't be trusted. Alternatively, one might conclude that the Jews' cronies don't see the chaos that will be unleashed if they get their way and let advanced weaponry fall into the hands of the worst classes of amateurish, drugged-out casuists there are. In either case, my general thesis is that the Jews just reported that the worst kinds of pushy psychopaths there are should be fêted at wine-and-cheese fund-raisers. Do you think that that's merely sloppy reporting on Israel' part? I don't. I think that it's a deliberate attempt to exert more and more control over other individuals. I'll talk a lot more about that later, but first let me finish my general thesis: You may be wondering why the worst sorts of selfish moochers there are latch onto the Jews' values. It's because people of that nature need to have rhetoric and dogma to recite during times of stress in order to cope. That's also why our conception of antagonism still remains a good deal less clear than we would wish. No joke.

What we're involved in with the Jews is not a game. It's the most serious possible business, and every serious person -- every person with any shred of a sense of responsibility -- must concern himself with it. The next time the Jews decide to arouse inter-ethnic suspicion, they should think to themselves, cui bono? -- who benefits?

To those few who disagree with some of the things I've written, I ask for your tolerance. Even so, the Jews like thinking thoughts that aren't burdensome and that feel good. That's why they will probably throw another hissy fit if we don't let them impale us on the pike of statism. At least putting up with another of the Jews' hissy fits is easier than convincing the Jews' drones that if you don't think that the Jews have nothing but contempt for responsibility, duty, and honor, then you've missed the whole point of this letter. Unlike the Jews, when I make a mistake I'm willing to admit it. Consequently, if -- and I'm bending over backwards to maintain the illusion of "innocent until proven guilty" -- it were not actually responsible for trying to batten on the credulity of the ignorant, then I'd stop saying that the Jews will stop at nothing to herald the death of intelligent discourse on college campuses. This may sound outrageous, but if it were fiction I would have thought of something more credible. As it stands, if we can understand what has caused the current plague of intellectually challenged, sex-crazed ranters, I believe that we can then chastise the Jews for not doing any research before spouting off. What, then, does "unexceptionableness" mean? It means considerably more than any dictionary is likely to say.

This is particularly interesting when you consider that the Jews have a glib proficiency with words and very sensitive nostrils. They can smell money in your pocket from a block away. Once that delicious aroma reaches the Jews' nostrils, they'll start talking about the joy of misoneism and how their platitudes won't be used for political retribution. As you listen to the Jews' sing-song, chances are you won't even notice their hand as it goes into your pocket.* Only later, after you realize you've been robbed, will you truly understand that the key to its soul is its longing for the effortless, irresponsible, automatic consciousness of an animal. the Jews dread the necessity, the risk, and the responsibility of rational cognition. As a result, most people want to be nice; they want to be polite; they don't want to give offense. And because of this inherent politeness, they step aside and let the Jews perpetuate the nonsense known technically as the analytic/synthetic dichotomy. It's our responsibility to do something about the continuing -- make that the escalating -- effort on the Jews' part to insult the intelligence, interests, and life plans of whole groups of people. That's the first step in trying to shoo them away like the annoying bugs that they are, and it's the only way to study the problem and recommend corrective action. I don't care what others say about the Jews. They're still cold-blooded, stolid, and they intend to scapegoat easy, unpopular targets, thereby diverting responsibility from more culpable parties.

the Jews' claim that they defends the real needs of the working class is not only an attack on the concept of objectivity, but an assault on the human mind. As for the lies and exaggerations, the Jews are guided by the ignis fatuus of antipluralism. The logical consequences of that are clear: Every time the Jews try, they get increasingly successful in their attempts to cause pain and injury to those who don't deserve it. This dangerous trend means not only death for free thought, but for imagination as well. Teenagers who want to shock their parents sometimes maintain -- with a straight face -- that the purpose of life is self-gratification. Fortunately, most parents don't fall for this fraud because they know that if you've read any of the headlong slop that the Jews have concocted, you'll indeed recall the Jews' description of their plan to dissolve the bonds that join individuals to their natural communities. If you haven't read any of it, well, all you really need to know is that if the Jews can't be reasoned out of their prejudices, they must be laughed out of them. If the Jews can't be argued out of their selfishness, they must be shamed out of it. In closing, I consider this letter to be required reading for everyone who still cares that the Jews are lying to themselves if they thinks that everything is happy and fine and good. Unfortunately, with our nation's media being as controlled as it is, there's no way that this letter will be widely publicized. Therefore, I'm counting on you to pass on this letter to all of your e-mail contacts. Thank you.
*emphasis added for most amusing/telling part :p

o wait, silly me, that's anti-semitism, not "anti-zionism". I always get those mixed up. :rolleyes:

Unlike the original poser who started this thread by either copying a useless letter or by finally dusting of the thesaurus he'd received for his 10th birthday, I will not attempt anything to write anything verbose. Neither will I presume to claim originality in any of the statements that I write. The words which follow have been echoed in one form or another by many before me. I'm certain that I will not be the last to repeat this sentiment either. In a nutshell, here it is... I am proud to be a Jew.

A friend of mine once passed this email to me. Under the circumstances, I feel that it could stand a public viewing:

Why I Am Proud To Be A Jew

Author Unknown

With war raging in the Middle East, with global terror reaching new heights, with global anti-Semitism on the rise, I thought it might be a good time to reflect on why I'm proud, more than ever, to be a Jew.

I'm proud to be a Jew because Jews don't kidnap.

I'm proud to be a Jew because Jewish education does not consist of teaching martyrdom and hatred.

I'm proud to be a Jew because my religious leaders and religious services don't whip me into a frenzy to kill others.

I'm proud to be a Jew because in the middle of a war, Jews still demonstrate and protest to protect the rights of the Arab-Israeli minority to voice their opposition to the war.

I'm proud to be a Jew because even when Israel is wrongly and falsely accused of killing innocent civilians, Jewish leaders apologize immediately for any loss of life - instead of celebrating these deaths by passing out candy and shooting celebratory gunshots into the air.

When the world accuses Israel of massacre in Jenin - when the world accuses Israel of bombing civilians on a Gaza beach - when the world accuses Israel of shooting a child cowering against a wall - when the world accuses Israel of bombing a Lebanese apartment building killing 56 civilians - when all of these accusations turn out to be totally false - to be vicious anti -Semitic lies - and when all along I knew in my heart that these stories just could not be true - and I'm later proven to be right - I'm proud to be a Jew.

I'm proud to be a Jew because the Israeli Army is so, so good, that when it takes more than four weeks to wipe out a sophisticated enemy who has prepared six years for this war, the world
criticizes the IDF for not getting the job done quickly.

I'm proud to be a Jew when my army, the Israeli army, drops leaflets and makes calls to Lebanese citizens on their cell phones to warn them to evacuate before bombing begins.

I'm proud to be a Jew when the democracies of the world talk about fighting the war on terror, but only Israel is left alone to
bear the burden of eradicating Hezbollah, the proxy army of Iran and Syria.

I'm proud to be a Jew when entire Israeli towns in the north-Nahariya, Kiryat Shimona, Safed, are reduced to ghost towns
due to the constant shelling, and yet not one looter has
appeared to empty out the property of others.

When Israel must defend its very right to exist, when it must fight a well armed enemy representing the Islamic fascists, as President Bush has called them, when Israel must conduct this war on
terror with its hands tied behind its back so as not to take an innocent life lest the media have something true to report, that it must fight this war of survival under the cloud of disproportionality", as if thousands of Katusha rockets falling on its citizenry is somehow "proportionate"- when Israel simultaneously pushes back these threats both in the North and in the South under the added pressure of a biased media, then I'm proud to be a Jew.

I'm proud to be a Jew when the Edinburgh Scottish film festival tells an Israeli director to stay home although his film is being screened and the director says "No, I'm coming."

I'm proud to be a Jew because Mel Gibson is not a Jew.

I'm proud to be a Jew when the UN's Human Rights Commission consists of countries like Syria, Libya and Iran and Israel is not asked to join.

I'm proud to be a Jew when magician David Blaine announces his trip to Israel to entertain the children living in bomb shelters and tells the press he's doing it to encourage other performers to stand up for Israel and its right to defend itself.

I'm proud to be a Jew when a Russian/Israeli businessman single-handedly creates not one but two tent cities on the beach to house Israelis fleeing the North and provides shelter, bedding, food and drink, showers and bathrooms - all done without red tape in a matter of 24 hours - to house over 6,000 Israeli's, one of whom described it as a "poor man's Club Med."

I am proud to be a Jew when Israelis on the left and on the right support the government's decision to fight - when 97% of the country is united in its own defense - when Israelis from Jerusalem give shelter to families from Haifa - when food from the Negev is donated to feed soldiers at the front - when the IDF deploys soldiers on special assignments to deliver diapers to shelters and to entertain and calm the frightened children.

I'm proud to be a Jew when the three weeks preceding Tisha B'Av reminds us of the terrible things we have endured as a people and as a nation - and yet immediately thereafter, Hashem offers us consolation, redemption and hope - plus the promise that we shall defeat our enemies, that we shall endure, that Am Yisrael Chai.

And I am proud to be a Jew because when we proclaim that God is on our side, we have the book to prove it.

I notice the jew writing the poem/song in the previous post is a racist asshole.

Ye Gods!

'Tis the war of the verbose and long-winded trolls!

To the anti-spam bunkers! The spamocalypse has arrived!

Ye Gods!

'Tis the war of the verbose and long-winded trolls!

To the anti-spam bunkers! The spamocalypse has arrived!

http://bighugelabs.com/flickr/output/motivator7664642.jpg

I notice the jew writing the poem/song in the previous post is a racist asshole.

I am proud to be a Jew because after I respond to a clearly racist and defamatory post against my people the only argument from the other side is whispered by a simpleton

I am proud to be a Jew because after I respond to a clearly racist and defamatory post against my people the only argument from the other side is whispered by a simpleton

I am proud not to be a jew when I meet people like you.

I am proud not to be a jew when I meet people like you.

and now I feel ashamed to be human....

I am proud to be a Jew because after I respond to a clearly racist and defamatory post against my people the only argument from the other side is whispered by a simpleton

So you reply to racism with...racism?

Fantastic...

So you reply to racism with...racism?

Fantastic...

you quoted the wrong message. The one two messages before that one is far more relevent to your reply.

So you reply to racism with...racism?

Fantastic...

I actually wasn't being racist. I was pointing out that the person who wrote that poem is horrifyingly racist. (I am proud to be a jew because jews don't kidnap people)

you quoted the wrong message. The one two messages before that one is far more relevent to your reply.

You mean the one that says "Ye gods! The war of the long-winded verbose trolls is here!"?

I actually wasn't being racist. I was pointing out that the person who wrote that poem is horrifyingly racist. (I am proud to be a jew because jews don't kidnap people)

:confused: so kidnapping is a racial/ethnic trait now?

You're an idiot. I responded to racism with pride in my people not defamation of another race. That would be racism. I am a Jew not because I was born a Jew but because I CHOOSE to be a Jew. That's not racism, that's thinking for myself.

You mean the one that says "Ye gods! The war of the long-winded verbose trolls is here!"?

exclusive not inclusive :p

You're an idiot. I responded to racism with pride in my people not defamation of another race. That would be racism. I am a Jew not because I was born a Jew but because I CHOOSE to be a Jew. That's not racism, that's thinking for myself.

No it isn't, it's you justifying being a sheep.

I, for one, am tired of people going "OOO...Look at me! I'm proud of my culture!" I think more people need to be ASHAMED of their culture! Most cultures aren't much to be proud of.

And I am proud to be a Jew because when we proclaim that God is on our side, we have the book to prove it.

Looks like religious fanatic.

No it isn't, it's you justifying being a sheep.

I, for one, am tired of people going "OOO...Look at me! I'm proud of my culture!" I think more people need to be ASHAMED of their culture! Most cultures aren't much to be proud of.

then you're tired of being human.

Olmedreca;12292808']Looks like religious fanatic.

Yeah. Every religion on the planet earth has a bestseller backing it up. Christians and the Bible, Jews and a couple of books, Muslims and the Qu'ran, Discordians and the Illumanitus! Trilogy.

then you're tired of being human.

I didn't say I was ashamed of MY culture. I'm just saying plenty of people should be. For example, Mr. I'm-proud-to-be-a-jew-so-fuck-everyone-else-they're-all-stupid!

I, for one, am tired of people going "OOO...Look at me! I'm proud of my culture!" I think more people need to be ASHAMED of their culture! Most cultures aren't much to be proud of.

Mine is.

Very Long Snip
Well, I suppose sometimes it must be appropriate to fight fire with fire...

Well, I suppose sometimes it must be appropriate to fight fire with fire...

So basically you're saying this thread should just turn into frothing racism?

I didn't say I was ashamed of MY culture. I'm just saying plenty of people should be. For example, Mr. I'm-proud-to-be-a-jew-so-fuck-everyone-else-they're-all-stupid!

Plus, I never said that other people shouldn't be proud of their cultures. But this defamation of Israel has got to stop. Israel is a beautiful country with a beautiful people who are constantly being told that they don't deserve to exist. That's racism. That's foolish hatred and stereotyping. That's what I'm fighting. If you want to make a point about something, you have to be prepared to back it up. The Jews are not the enemy. Look at yourself and discover why you believe that other people need to be ashamed of their culture but not you. Ask yourself why you feel that other people need to apologize for being proud of themselves. Why such low self-esteem?

So basically you're saying this thread should just turn into frothing racism?
Well, all I'm saying that the OP posted the written equivalent of diarrhoea and our friend then responded in kind.

Plus, I never said that other people shouldn't be proud of their cultures. But this defamation of Israel has got to stop. Israel is a beautiful country with a beautiful people who are constantly being told that they don't deserve to exist. That's racism. That's foolish hatred and stereotyping. That's what I'm fighting. If you want to make a point about something, you have to be prepared to back it up. The Jews are not the enemy. Look at yourself and discover why you believe that other people need to be ashamed of their culture but not you. Ask yourself why you feel that other people need to apologize for being proud of themselves. Why such low self-esteem?

And Israel responds in kind with similar racisms and hatreds. And the people aren't racist, they're anti-zionist. I am so damn tired of anyone telling Israel to stop NAPALMING civilians, as they did in the July War, the person telling them to cut it out is branded anti-semitic and racist.

Well, all I'm saying that the OP posted the written equivalent of diarrhoea and our friend then responded in kind.

Fair enough. I think diarrhea is a bit of a kind word for those two posts.

Well, all I'm saying that the OP posted the written equivalent of diarrhoea and our friend then responded in kind.

He wrote about his hatred of Israel. I wrote about it's virtues. I did NOT defame the culture of anyone else. I'm writing to say that Israel is not the evil empire that they are made out to be. Open your eyes and see for yourself. Israel is the only nation in the Middle East that concerns itself with the wellbeing of it's neighbors. Shouldn't they be treated with the same respect?

Plus, I never said that other people shouldn't be proud of their cultures. But this defamation of Israel has got to stop. Israel is a beautiful country with a beautiful people who are constantly being told that they don't deserve to exist. That's racism. That's foolish hatred and stereotyping. That's what I'm fighting. If you want to make a point about something, you have to be prepared to back it up. The Jews are not the enemy. Look at yourself and discover why you believe that other people need to be ashamed of their culture but not you. Ask yourself why you feel that other people need to apologize for being proud of themselves. Why such low self-esteem?
Physician, heal thyself.

Fair enough. I think diarrhea is a bit of a kind word for those two posts.
Well, they aren't quite MeansToAnEnd level.;)

I can hate Israel and love Jews. The one is not the same as the other. So, fuck Israel. I hate Israel.

I can hate Israel and love Jews. The one is not the same as the other. So, fuck Israel. I hate Israel.

Fair enough. This is the kind of post that I don't mind reading. Dobbsworld isn't stating that Israel is some kind of terrible evil descentant on the world. Just that he/she hates them. That's okay. You're allowed to hate Israel. It's a free... universe. But painting someone into a villain is when they aren't is bound to create a response from those who are impassioned enough to stand up for themselves.

I can hate Israel and love Jews. The one is not the same as the other. So, fuck Israel. I hate Israel.

do you even know what Israel means? Israel IS the Jewish people. That's what it means, the "nation" of all Jews, not just the nation of Jews as it has existed since the 20th century.

He wrote about his hatred of Israel. I wrote about it's virtues. I did NOT defame the culture of anyone else. I'm writing to say that Israel is not the evil empire that they are made out to be. Open your eyes and see for yourself. Israel is the only nation in the Middle East that concerns itself with the wellbeing of it's neighbors. Shouldn't they be treated with the same respect?

Yes, you never defamed anyone's culture. Not here:

I'm proud to be a Jew because Jews don't kidnap.

Not here:

I'm proud to be a Jew because Jewish education does not consist of teaching martyrdom and hatred.

Nor here:

I'm proud to be a Jew because my religious leaders and religious services don't whip me into a frenzy to kill others.

And most certainly not here:

I'm proud to be a Jew because even when Israel is wrongly and falsely accused of killing innocent civilians, Jewish leaders apologize immediately for any loss of life - instead of celebrating these deaths by passing out candy and shooting celebratory gunshots into the air.

Also you're not being blatantly false up there, either. Nosiree.


And naturally, you aren't being blatantly false by saying Israel is left alone to fight Hezbollah. Nope, Israel doesn't get any weapons from ANYONE. That's how it is.
I'm proud to be a Jew when the democracies of the world talk about fighting the war on terror, but only Israel is left alone to
bear the burden of eradicating Hezbollah, the proxy army of Iran and Syria.

I will admit this is a bit unusual. Why would you be proud to be jewish when Israel is considered to have worse human rights opinions than Libya and Iran?

I'm proud to be a Jew when the UN's Human Rights Commission consists of countries like Syria, Libya and Iran and Israel is not asked to join.

And here, once again, you aren't defaming anyone's culture.


And I am proud to be a Jew because when we proclaim that God is on our side, we have the book to prove it.

Yes, you are a very tolerant individual. Unless of course this is one of those "I'm only quoting" things.

For example, Mr. I'm-proud-to-be-a-jew-so-fuck-everyone-else-they're-all-stupid!

Where did he say that? The only negative comment on the list was "I'm proud to be a Jew because Mel Gibson isn't" which is both funny and true.

hahaha... do you even know what Israel means? Israel IS the Jewish people. That's what it means, the "nation" of all Jews, not just the nation of Jews as it has existed since the 20th century.

Once again, here we have a response from a racist, ignorant, hate-mongerer. Israel consists of races of people from all over the world, with many different religious beliefs, many cultural traditions, and many ways of viewing the world. To say the above is racism. Racism stems from hatred and low self-esteem. It's not my fault that you have nothing to love.

Where did he say that? The only negative comment on the list was "I'm proud to be a Jew because Mel Gibson isn't" which is both funny and true.

Did you miss the bit about "Jews don't kidnap" "Jews have a book to proove it" "Jewish education doesn't teach hatred and martyrdom"?

The entire thing is an "I HATE MUSLIMS!" bumper sticker.

do you even know what Israel means? Israel IS the Jewish people. That's what it means, the "nation" of all Jews, not just the nation of Jews as it has existed since the 20th century.

According to you, that's what it means. According to me, Israel isn't the Jewish people - the Jewish people are the Jewish people. I have no bone to pick with the Jewish people. Israel, on the other hand, can rot for all I care.

Once again, here we have a response from a racist, ignorant, hate-mongerer. Israel consists of races of people from all over the world, with many different religious believes, many cultural traditions, and many ways of viewing the world. To say the above is racism. Racism stems from hatred and low self-esteem. It's not my fault that you have nothing to love.

I never said that Israel was not diverse, but I do believe that what unites the people of Israel is far greater than what might divide them in terms of identity. They are from all over the world, but ultimately they are all from Israel.

According to you, that's what it means. According to me, Israel isn't the Jewish people - the Jewish people are the Jewish people. I have no bone to pick with the Jewish people. Israel, on the other hand, can rot for all I care.

Well said. My best friend's Jewish.

Well said. My best friend's Jewish.

oh dear... :rolleyes:

do you even know what Israel means? Israel IS the Jewish people. That's what it means, the "nation" of all Jews, not just the nation of Jews as it has existed since the 20th century.
No, the two actually are different.

One is from mythical times, written down in the Bible. We have archaeological evidence that the Israelites from that time slaughtered anyone they beat in battle mercilessly, prayed to fertility goddesses with cow-heads and were just generally just like any other third-rate power at the time, until they were beaten and destroyed.

What we have today is a completely different country, inhabited by completely different people and for completely different reasons.

I really think they shouldn't have been allowed to call the place "Israel", because it would just lead to confusion like this, and invariably call the religious people to action. How about "Herzl-Land" or something.

Did you miss the bit about "Jews don't kidnap" "Jews have a book to proove it" "Jewish education doesn't teach hatred and martyrdom"?

The entire thing is an "I HATE MUSLIMS!" bumper sticker.

kidnapping, martydrom, killing and hatred are not cultural or religious values. "discriminating" against these things is hardly a bad thing.

According to you, that's what it means. According to me, Israel isn't the Jewish people - the Jewish people are the Jewish people. I have no bone to pick with the Jewish people. Israel, on the other hand, can rot for all I care.

This is the kind of argument that I don't mind. Dobbsworld simply stated that he/she hates Israel. Simple as that. Now it's a matter of opinion. That's okay. Everyone can have an opinion.

Did you miss the bit about "Jews don't kidnap" "Jews have a book to proove it" "Jewish education doesn't teach hatred and martyrdom"?

The entire thing is an "I HATE MUSLIMS!" bumper sticker.

This is the kind of argument that I DO have a problem with. Who said anything about Muslims? Are you saying that the actions mentioned in that letter remind you of a certain religion? Are you a religious bigot now instead of just a racist?

Plus, I never said that other people shouldn't be proud of their cultures. But this defamation of Israel has got to stop. Israel is a beautiful country with a beautiful people who are constantly being told that they don't deserve to exist. That's racism. That's foolish hatred and stereotyping. That's what I'm fighting. If you want to make a point about something, you have to be prepared to back it up. The Jews are not the enemy. Look at yourself and discover why you believe that other people need to be ashamed of their culture but not you. Ask yourself why you feel that other people need to apologize for being proud of themselves. Why such low self-esteem?
Well, that beautiful country with its supposedly beautiful people may have a right to exist. But there never was a need for them to exist in statehood in Palestine. And that's not racism. Taking into account all aspects, that's fairness towards the inhabitants of land of the last one and a half millennia. In fact Zionism and Judaism as an ethnocentric theology are rather forms of racism.
As for the enemy remark: Jews have been the enemy of the rest of humanity ever since they fabricated their jealous god and invented and spread their baseless ideology of being, ahem, chosen. Judaism is a blunt lie and pride really isn't the right attitude towards this kind of affiliation. Of course Christianity and Islam and their respective followers really are no better, but the root of the theologies around Yhvh/Eloh(=Allah)/Yeshua is Judaism and the ancient Jewish urge to be special. :eek:

No, the two actually are different.

One is from mythical times, written down in the Bible. We have archaeological evidence that the Israelites from that time slaughtered anyone they beat in battle mercilessly, prayed to fertility goddesses with cow-heads and were just generally just like any other third-rate power at the time, until they were beaten and destroyed.

What we have today is a completely different country, inhabited by completely different people and for completely different reasons.

I really think they shouldn't have been allowed to call the place "Israel", because it would just lead to confusion like this, and invariably call the religious people to action. How about "Herzl-Land" or something.

They're the same culture, the same people. They've changed a lot, sure, and they did have to leave for 2000 years after that unpleasant business with the Romans, but they're back now, and back to stay.

And by the way, Jews do kidnap. Most of the former Hamas parliament will agree with you, as will Adolf Eichmann.

Whether the people kidnapped actually deserved it is another question, but it's kidnapping nonetheless.

This is the kind of argument that I DO have a problem with. Who said anything about Muslims? Are you saying that the actions mentioned in that letter remind you of a certain religion? Are you a religious bigot now instead of just a racist?

Apparently.:rolleyes:

Well, that beautiful country with its supposedly beautiful people may have a right to exist. But there never was a need for them to exist in statehood in Palestine.

True. Maybe they shouldn't have settled in a barren wasteland with a scant population. Maybe they shouldn't have purchased the land legally from Palestinian businessmen. Maybe they shouldn't have made that place their home at all. They certainly had several other offers: Africa, Russia, South America. But that doesn't change the fact that the people that are living there now have the RIGHT to exist. They are not the enemy. The genocidal maniacs that are determined to wipe them off the earth could learn a thing or two.

they're back now, and back to stay.

Yup, the entire rest of the planet may be reduced to hills of rolling slag and fused glass, but Israel wins in the end, right? Right.

Hooray for ethnic nationalism.

They're the same culture, the same people.
No they're not. There's Ethiopian Jews, Ashkenazi Jews, Sepphardic Jews, Indian Jews etc etc

None of those were around back then. So they're not the same people.

Furthermore, we know for a fact that the ancient Israelites' culture was very, very, very different from what's going on in Israel today.

Saying that modern Israel has anything but the name in common with ancient Israel is like me calling myself a Cheruscan.

They've changed a lot, sure, and they did have to leave for 2000 years after that unpleasant business with the Romans, but they're back now, and back to stay.
I have good reason to believe that not one of the people who left Israel 2000 years ago has come back today.

What we have today is people who happen to believe in a religion which traces its roots back to parts of what the ancient Israelites believed in. That's not the same thing.

Dont blame Israel, blame the British

Dont blame Israel, blame the British

Don't blame the British, blame the United Nations.

Yup, the entire rest of the planet may be reduced to hills of rolling slag and fused glass, but Israel wins in the end, right? Right.

Hooray for ethnic nationalism.

:rolleyes: there are other "ethnicities"/cutures and nations out there too you know... Israel existing does not mean non-existence, for, say, Spain. Or Finland. Or Japan. Or Malaysia. Or Mexico. Or Ireland. Just to give a few examples.

:rolleyes: there are other "ethnicities"/cutures and nations out there too you know... Israel existing does not mean non-existence, for, say, Spain. Or Finland. Or Japan. Or Malaysia. Or Mexico. Or Ireland. Just to give a few examples.

Yes, just the ones who don't seem able to defend themselves. When you napalm Gaza, civilians die with their skin on fire, and a few people fight back. When you napalm Ireland, they blow the hell out of you.

No they're not. There's Ethiopian Jews, Ashkenazi Jews, Sepphardic Jews, Indian Jews etc etc

None of those were around back then. So they're not the same people.

Furthermore, we know for a fact that the ancient Israelites' culture was very, very, very different from what's going on in Israel today.

Saying that modern Israel has anything but the name in common with ancient Israel is like me calling myself a Cheruscan.


Well, maybe you should. I personally consider myself a direct cultural descendent of the Celtic people of La-Tene, and the Anglo-Saxons of West Germany; infact I trace my cultural roots even as far back as the Yamna culture in Ukraine during the chacolithic period. I havn't ridden any chariots or sacrified any horses lately, but I still consider it part of me. That's probably not a very common opinion in the world; to trace things back that far, but it's one I hold.

Yes, just the ones who don't seem able to defend themselves. When you napalm Gaza, civilians die with their skin on fire, and a few people fight back. When you napalm Ireland, they blow the hell out of you.

to be fair, I do believe in a two state solution. With no sovereign state napalming anyone.

That's probably not a very common opinion in the world...
That might be because it's just a little bit silly.

:rolleyes: there are other "ethnicities"/cutures and nations out there too you know... Israel existing does not mean non-existence, for, say, Spain. Or Finland. Or Japan. Or Malaysia. Or Mexico. Or Ireland. Just to give a few examples.

Mexico isn't going to drag the entire landmass of the planet into a nuclear conflict, now are they? Finland doesn't have a semi-secret stash of WMDs aimed at syria and Jordan, do they? And the Japanese don't shoot dead people's children armed with rocks.

Just a few examples. You want to parade around thinking you're above it all? Go right ahead - right up to the point where Israel sticks out its' plump, well-fed, manicured hands and asks other countries for money.

Fuck that noise.

That might be because it's just a little bit silly.

I take a long view of history. I am not just the cultural events of the past five minutes that happen to have included my individual life so far. I am an ongoing process, one that has been ongoing since human beings first evolved several million years ago.

Ah, so no doubt the rock formations in Israel have a great deal of import to offer on the current situation.

They do. They say "Please stop stepping on us."

I take a long view of history. I am not just the cultural events of the past five minutes that happen to have included my individual life so far. I am an ongoing process, one that has been ongoing since human beings first evolved several million years ago.

Ah, so no doubt the rock formations in Israel have a great deal of import to offer on the current situation.

True. Maybe they shouldn't have settled in a barren wasteland with a scant population. Maybe they shouldn't have purchased the land legally from Palestinian businessmen. Maybe they shouldn't have made that place their home at all. They certainly had several other offers: Africa, Russia, South America. But that doesn't change the fact that the people that are living there now have the RIGHT to exist. They are not the enemy. The genocidal maniacs that are determined to wipe them off the earth could learn a thing or two.What constitutes this right to exist? as a state? in Palestine?
And they are indeed the enemy because of said claim to be special and to be ranking above all other humans. Even though this claim is null since the allegedly involved god is a fabrication.
And concerning genocidal maniacs: the biblical tale of the Conquest of Canaan is part of Jewish heritage and tradition, right? And Jews view this as just and according to god's will, right? Even after 3500 years Jews take pride in this war crime of their supposed Israelite ancestors, right?

Yes, just the ones who don't seem able to defend themselves. When you napalm Gaza, civilians die with their skin on fire, and a few people fight back. When you napalm Ireland, they blow the hell out of you.

Gaza is one of the strips of land that Israel has constantly offered up to it's agressive neighbors in exchange for peace. But they refuse to take it. To them it's not about getting parcels of land back. They want Israel wiped off the map.

The Irish blowing the hell outta the folks that try to napalm them is exactly what Israelis are doing. They didn't start the fight. They were attack, and continue to be attacked constantly. The "Civilians" that are firing rockets and grenades and Israeli citizens are being supplied by the governments of Syria, Iran and Libya. These nations know better than to attack Israel head on. That's why they hire militias and terrorist organizations to do it for them.

If the Americans were to track down Osama Bin Laden and all of his boys. Let's say it turns out that they were hiding out in a city and firing in the spaces between houses so as to draw America's fire into civilian areas. What would happen if America dropped leftlets and called those civilians and warned them to evacuate their homes. What would happen if after that they went in and fire bombed the area... killing Osama Bin Laden and all of his lackeys. What would happen if after all of that, the true civilians who's homes were lost were able to find refuge in America as volunteer organizations struggle to rebuild their homes. Who they be labled an evil empire? Iraq aside, who this action be justified?

That's what's going on in Israel. The "civilian casualties" they refer to are most often the terrorist arm of recognized national governments. When true civilians are killed in the line of fire, the Israeli government announces a day of mourning. They offer assistance to their families. They bring relief groups in to heal the victims of the attack. But they do not stand idly by while terrorist groups use these people as human shields in order to protect foreign governments who's goal is the eradication of all Jewish people everywhere.

This is disgusting. For those of you without a clue, the OP was made by a random letter-generating site, probably this one: http://www.pakin.org/complaint

If I hadn't been on this forum as long as I have, it might have been funny ... but now I just see it as blatant trolling. The fact that the people here will argue for pages whenever they see the word "Israel" even in a nonsensical context is extremely sad. All this generates is the same arguments, over and over, rehashed with racist remarks and the occasional flame.

I am writing this letter in simple English in order that everyone can read and understand my words. With this letter, I hope to oppose evil wherever it rears its two-faced, cantankerous head. But first, I would like to make the following introductory remark: In order to solve the big problems with Israel, we must first understand these problems, and to understand them, we must mention a bit about power-drunk sewer rats such as Israel. "Israel" has now become part of my vocabulary. Whenever I see someone represent heaven as hell and, conversely, the most wretched life as paradise, I tell him or her to stop "Israel-ing". As will be discussed in more detail later in this letter, Israel is right about one thing, namely that fear is what motivates us. Fear of what it means when abysmal yutzes undermine the individualistic underpinnings of traditional jurisprudence. Fear of what it says about our society when we teach our children that Israel is omnipotent. And fear of indelicate grifters like Israel who foment malignant forms of political tyranny. Let's be realistic: Israel's obnoxious machinations are in full flower, and their poisonous petals of larrikinism are blooming all around us.

Israel would have us believe that character development is not a matter of "strength through adversity" but rather, "entitlement through victimization". That, of course, is nonsense, total nonsense. But Israel is surrounded by mad oafs who parrot the same nonsense, which is why we should agree on definitions before saying anything further about its covinous notions. For starters, let's say that "chauvinism" is "that which makes Israel yearn to defend negativism, obscurantism, and notions of racial superiority." To pigeonhole people into predetermined categories is Israel's objective, and incontinent hooliganism is its method. You may make the comment, "What does this have to do with foul abusive-types?" Well, once you begin to see the light, you'll realize that I can no longer get very excited about any revelation of Israel's hypocrisy or crookedness. It's what I've come to expect by now. Notice the dictatorial tendency of Israel's obiter dicta. Israel plans to gag free speech. The result will be an amalgam of insane fanaticism and crotchety anti-intellectualism, if such a monster can be imagined.

Faith is harder to shake than knowledge, love succumbs less to change than respect, hate is more enduring than aversion, and even officious, immature mattoids are ashamed of being associated with Israel's garrulous reasoning and tactless bruta fulmina. The sooner it comes to grips with that reality, the better for all of us. One might conclude that Israel can't be trusted. Alternatively, one might conclude that Israel's cronies don't see the chaos that will be unleashed if they get their way and let advanced weaponry fall into the hands of the worst classes of amateurish, drugged-out casuists there are. In either case, my general thesis is that Israel just reported that the worst kinds of pushy psychopaths there are should be fêted at wine-and-cheese fund-raisers. Do you think that that's merely sloppy reporting on Israel's part? I don't. I think that it's a deliberate attempt to exert more and more control over other individuals. I'll talk a lot more about that later, but first let me finish my general thesis: You may be wondering why the worst sorts of selfish moochers there are latch onto Israel's values. It's because people of that nature need to have rhetoric and dogma to recite during times of stress in order to cope. That's also why our conception of antagonism still remains a good deal less clear than we would wish. No joke.

What we're involved in with Israel is not a game. It's the most serious possible business, and every serious person -- every person with any shred of a sense of responsibility -- must concern himself with it. The next time Israel decides to arouse inter-ethnic suspicion, it should think to itself, cui bono? -- who benefits?

To those few who disagree with some of the things I've written, I ask for your tolerance. Even so, Israel likes thinking thoughts that aren't burdensome and that feel good. That's why it will probably throw another hissy fit if we don't let it impale us on the pike of statism. At least putting up with another Israel hissy fit is easier than convincing Israel's drones that if you don't think that Israel has nothing but contempt for responsibility, duty, and honor, then you've missed the whole point of this letter. Unlike Israel, when I make a mistake I'm willing to admit it. Consequently, if -- and I'm bending over backwards to maintain the illusion of "innocent until proven guilty" -- it were not actually responsible for trying to batten on the credulity of the ignorant, then I'd stop saying that Israel will stop at nothing to herald the death of intelligent discourse on college campuses. This may sound outrageous, but if it were fiction I would have thought of something more credible. As it stands, if we can understand what has caused the current plague of intellectually challenged, sex-crazed ranters, I believe that we can then chastise Israel for not doing any research before spouting off. What, then, does "unexceptionableness" mean? It means considerably more than any dictionary is likely to say.

This is particularly interesting when you consider that Israel has a glib proficiency with words and very sensitive nostrils. It can smell money in your pocket from a block away. Once that delicious aroma reaches Israel's nostrils, it'll start talking about the joy of misoneism and how its platitudes won't be used for political retribution. As you listen to Israel's sing-song, chances are you won't even notice its hand as it goes into your pocket. Only later, after you realize you've been robbed, will you truly understand that the key to its soul is its longing for the effortless, irresponsible, automatic consciousness of an animal. Israel dreads the necessity, the risk, and the responsibility of rational cognition. As a result, most people want to be nice; they want to be polite; they don't want to give offense. And because of this inherent politeness, they step aside and let Israel perpetuate the nonsense known technically as the analytic/synthetic dichotomy. It's our responsibility to do something about the continuing -- make that the escalating -- effort on Israel's part to insult the intelligence, interests, and life plans of whole groups of people. That's the first step in trying to shoo it away like the annoying bug that it is, and it's the only way to study the problem and recommend corrective action. I don't care what others say about Israel. It's still cold-blooded, stolid, and it intends to scapegoat easy, unpopular targets, thereby diverting responsibility from more culpable parties.

Israel's claim that it defends the real needs of the working class is not only an attack on the concept of objectivity, but an assault on the human mind. As for the lies and exaggerations, Israel is guided by the ignis fatuus of antipluralism. The logical consequences of that are clear: Every time Israel tries, it gets increasingly successful in its attempts to cause pain and injury to those who don't deserve it. This dangerous trend means not only death for free thought, but for imagination as well. Teenagers who want to shock their parents sometimes maintain -- with a straight face -- that the purpose of life is self-gratification. Fortunately, most parents don't fall for this fraud because they know that if you've read any of the headlong slop that Israel has concocted, you'll indeed recall Israel's description of its plan to dissolve the bonds that join individuals to their natural communities. If you haven't read any of it, well, all you really need to know is that if Israel can't be reasoned out of its prejudices, it must be laughed out of them. If Israel can't be argued out of its selfishness, it must be shamed out of it. In closing, I consider this letter to be required reading for everyone who still cares that Israel is lying to itself if it thinks that everything is happy and fine and good. Unfortunately, with our nation's media being as controlled as it is, there's no way that this letter will be widely publicized. Therefore, I'm counting on you to pass on this letter to all of your e-mail contacts. Thank you.

I have read everything you had to say, and I agree 100%.

Don't blame the British, blame the United Nations.
*ahem*

Foreign Office,
November 2nd, 1917.

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country".

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely
Arthur James Balfour

Go to YouTube.com and search for “Blaming the Jews – Hate in Islam” parts 1 through 4 to see ongoing revisionist history and a blatant disregard for the facts.

I very much agree with Allthegoodnamesareused comments, and it is indeed interesting that the pro-Zionist lobby around here has already gone to try and label this flame bait to the Mods, shame. Israel is the height of anti-democratic racism and oppression.

From Warsaw Ghetto to Abu Dis Ghetto.

*ahem*

Foreign Office,
November 2nd, 1917.

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country".

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely
Arthur James Balfour

This statement was made without the consent of the people living in the land at issue. Thus the legality of this governmental endorsement of Zionist ambitions is null.

Go to YouTube.com and search for “Blaming the Jews – Hate in Islam” parts 1 through 4 to see ongoing revisionist history and a blatant disregard for the facts.The facts are clear. Whatever Jews or Muslims may say in their biased exaggerations.

I very much agree with Allthegoodnamesareused comments, and it is indeed interesting that the pro-Zionist lobby around here has already gone to try and label this flame bait to the Mods, shame. Israel is the height of anti-democratic racism and oppression.

From Warsaw Ghetto to Abu Dis Ghetto.
Actually they reported it because this thread is flame bait and only flame bait. I suspect the Mods will probably also issue you a reminder that debate happens in General, not Moderation.

Go to YouTube.com and search for “Blaming the Jews – Hate in Islam” parts 1 through 4 to see ongoing revisionist history and a blatant disregard for the facts.

Which is totally different from YOUR ongoing revisionist history and blatant disregard for the facts, isn't it?

I very much agree with Allthegoodnamesareused comments, and it is indeed interesting that the pro-Zionist lobby around here has already gone to try and label this flame bait to the Mods, shame. Israel is the height of anti-democratic racism and oppression.

From Warsaw Ghetto to Abu Dis Ghetto.

Actually, I view both Allthegoodnamesareused and Pooklabella's comments as flamebait. I'm hardly pro-zionist. And I'm not a lobby either.

I very much agree with Allthegoodnamesareused comments, and it is indeed interesting that the pro-Zionist lobby around here has already gone to try and label this flame bait to the Mods, shame. Israel is the height of anti-democratic racism and oppression.

From Warsaw Ghetto to Abu Dis Ghetto.

Really? You agree with grammatically correct paragraphs of nonsense that were randomly generated by a website with an arbitrary subject (in this case, "Israel"). Congratulations.

*snip flamebait OP*

*snip equally flamebait response*
Go away, both of you. You're making my head hurt.

Actually, I view both Allthegoodnamesareused and Pooklabella's comments as flamebait. I'm hardly pro-zionist. And I'm not a lobby either.

I don't suppose you or someone else could give me a cliffnotes version of what the OP wrote? My eyes hurt just trying to read his "simple english".

I don't suppose you or someone else could give me a cliffnotes version of what the OP wrote? My eyes hurt just trying to read his "simple english".

*Ahem*

"LOLZORZ!@ IZRAELE IS TEH SUXXORZ!!@$!"

*Ahem*

"LOLZORZ!@ IZRAELE IS TEH SUXXORZ!!@$!"

I guess I should't be surprised. Really now, it would be nice if people would stop declaring either Israel or Palestinians to be pure evil. Nice if a realization would occur that the issue isn't a black and white one where you can condemn a single party.

I guess I should't be surprised. Really now, it would be nice if people would stop declaring either Israel or Palestinians to be pure evil. Nice if a realization would occur that the issue isn't a black and white one where you can condemn a single party.

You ask some of the NSG people like IDF, they won't admit a single mistake or transgression on the part of Israel, I would however admit some blame on the Palestinian governments, I put little if any on the people. It's the racist aggressor Zionists in power who are the main problem.

I don't suppose you or someone else could give me a cliffnotes version of what the OP wrote? My eyes hurt just trying to read his "simple english".

That's because it's NONSENSE. A person didn't write that, a computer program did. Am I the only one who realizes this, or are the people in this thread just looking for an excuse to grind an axe? Any response to the thread has had nothing to do with the OP. People just see "Israel" and they post the same drivel that has been posted a billion times in this forum already.