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If the zerg and the borg wen to war with each other who would win? Why?

The zerg, obviously, since Kerrigan would have the wherewithal to modify a subspace transceiver to emit a phased polaron radiation microburst which would interfere with the borg hyperdrive based shield emitters and give the zerg an advantage.

All the Borg have to do is assimilate the Zerg.
The Zerg might be vicious bastards, but once the Borg adapt to their poisons and such, theyre screwed.
Also, the Borg ships are uber :P

The zerg, obviously, since Kerrigan would have the wherewithal to modify a subspace transceiver to emit a phased polaron radiation microburst which would interfere with the borg hyperdrive based shield emitters and give the zerg an advantage.

good point:) I never thought about that. I thought they'd assimilate each other and amalgamate into a new race.

The zerg multiply so fast. The borg wouldn't know what squirted acid on them

The Zerg are a hivemind, yes?
Therefore, all the Borg have to do is assimilate a single Zerg, which then gives them access to the Hive. The Borg are pretty much uncorruptable while theyre connected to the Collective, so they cant pull a Kerrigan and switch sides, plus them teleport their dead out.
Sure, theyre slow, but theres a lot of them and, as I said, their ships would kick Zerg ass.

And, one might point out, that the Borg could simply go back and time and step on the first little Zerg spine-worms before they figure out how to burrow into animals backs.

The Borg just need to time-travel to back when Zerg were just slime pools and cook the planet with whatever fictional radiation that works for the episode.

The Zerg are a hivemind, yes?
Therefore, all the Borg have to do is assimilate a single Zerg, which then gives them access to the Hive. The Borg are pretty much uncorruptable while theyre connected to the Collective, so they cant pull a Kerrigan and switch sides, plus them teleport their dead out.
Sure, theyre slow, but theres a lot of them and, as I said, their ships would kick Zerg ass.

And, one might point out, that the Borg could simply go back and time and step on the first little Zerg spine-worms before they figure out how to burrow into animals backs.

Wouldn't the borg want the zerg to be part of their collective?

The Zerg are a hivemind, yes?
Therefore, all the Borg have to do is assimilate a single Zerg, which then gives them access to the Hive. The Borg are pretty much uncorruptable while theyre connected to the Collective, so they cant pull a Kerrigan and switch sides, plus them teleport their dead out.
Sure, theyre slow, but theres a lot of them and, as I said, their ships would kick Zerg ass.

And, one might point out, that the Borg could simply go back and time and step on the first little Zerg spine-worms before they figure out how to burrow into animals backs.

It works both ways too. All the zerg have to do is disrupt the Borg Collective long enough to assimilate a single Borg - they could do with a overlord or the overmind itself - and they could assimilate the Borg.

Plus, you're forgetting that the Borg are a ST enemy, which means they can always be defeated by enough technobabble.

The Zerg, youre forgetting the important, you cant adapt to claws that penetrate Titanium.

The Zerg, youre forgetting the important, you cant adapt to claws that penetrate Titanium.

True, in Star Trek firs Contact when the Borg adapted to everything the Federation had thrown at them Piccard ordered them to fight hand to hand if they needed to.

It would indeed be a costly conflict, but I DO BELIEVE that in the end the Borg would stand victorious.

Plus, you're forgetting that the Borg are a ST enemy, which means they can always be defeated by enough technobabble.:D QFT!

I'd go for zerg.

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It works both ways too. All the zerg have to do is disrupt the Borg Collective long enough to assimilate a single Borg - they could do with a overlord or the overmind itself - and they could assimilate the Borg.

Plus, you're forgetting that the Borg are a ST enemy, which means they can always be defeated by enough technobabble.

Ah, but the Borg are much harder to assimilate than the Zerg.

And the Zerg dont babble much anyway, only the Feds and Protoss have technobabble in StarCraft.

And, as has been pointed out, the Borg just have to go back in time and burn little Zerg brain-worms.

as a star wars geek. i think tthat the sith could beat them easely.

but from the Zerg and Borg i think that the borg would win. they do got all the knowledge of locutus:cool:

What is a 'Zerg'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerg

the power of wikipedia!!

Ah, but the Borg are much harder to assimilate than the Zerg.

And the Zerg dont babble much anyway, only the Feds and Protoss have technobabble in StarCraft.

And, as has been pointed out, the Borg just have to go back in time and burn little Zerg brain-worms.

Your forgetting that the Borg are obsessed with assimilating everything like the zerg are so they'll most likely assimilate each other and produce a new race of hybrids. The borg are not likely to go back in time and exterminate them, they'd probably assimilate them and then let them continue their brain sucking so ever more go into the collective.

Ah, but the Borg are much harder to assimilate than the Zerg.


Says who? They don't exactly receive a lot of attempts.

The zerg assimilate at the psionic/phyisical level. Borg at the technological/cyberphysical level. I think the zerg method is more likely to work especially as the Borg haven't even met with or handled psionics in any real way yet.

And the Zerg dont babble much anyway, only the Feds and Protoss have technobabble in StarCraft.

True, but if we're talking about a novelization, then everyone can theoretically win out on some technobabble.

And, as has been pointed out, the Borg just have to go back in time and burn little Zerg brain-worms.

They can't just go back in time whenever they feel like. Otherwise, they'd have assimilated everyone by now.

I don't have a life, so I've had the time to think about this in detail.

The Borg have incredible adaptablilty on their side, and assimilation of other species takes place within minutes of nanoprobe injection. In addition, they have numbers backed up by a hivemind that is uncluttered by cerebrates or other delegates that may have their own agendas. Unfortunately, the Borg, though they are efficient, have a very zombielike way of carrying out their tasks, and it has been noted on several occassions that if the highly computerized and centralized hivemind itself has been damaged or otherwise inflicted, the entire hive can destablilize.

The Zerg also have a knack for adaptibility though not to the level of the Borg, and though assimilation for them takes place at a much slower pace, their selective absorbtion and eradication and methodical evolution makes it inevitable that the newly assimilated species will be vastly improved over the original. In addition, the zerg have a tenacity and tactical sense that the Borg lack, which can be perhaps be attributed to the Zerg's highly delegated hivemind. Unfortunately, this may also be their greatest weakness. If a cerebrate is killed, the brood under his control doesn't simply shut down, it goes berzerk, wiping out everything in its path. Even worse, if someone should take OVER the cerebrate in some way, the brood can be turned against the greater hive.

I have concluded that the Borg will win out in a one-on-one contest.

I don't have a life, so I've had the time to think about this in detail.

The Borg have incredible adaptablilty on their side, and assimilation of other species takes place within minutes of nanoprobe injection. In addition, they have numbers backed up by a hivemind that is uncluttered by cerebrates or other delegates that may have their own agendas. Unfortunately, the Borg, though they are efficient, have a very zombielike way of carrying out their tasks, and it has been noted on several occassions that if the highly computerized and centralized hivemind itself has been damaged or otherwise inflicted, the entire hive can destablilize.

The Zerg also have a knack for adaptibility though not to the level of the Borg, and though assimilation for them takes place at a much slower pace, their selective absorbtion and eradication and methodical evolution makes it inevitable that the newly assimilated species will be vastly improved over the original. In addition, the zerg have a tenacity and tactical sense that the Borg lack, which can be perhaps be attributed to the Zerg's highly delegated hivemind. Unfortunately, this may also be their greatest weakness. If a cerebrate is killed, the brood under his control doesn't simply shut down, it goes berzerk, wiping out everything in its path. Even worse, if someone should take OVER the cerebrate in some way, the brood can be turned against the greater hive.

I have concluded that the Borg will win out in a one-on-one contest.

Looks like we have a winner!

Massive thermonuclear burnination will triumph.

Technological superiority always triumphs over raw numbers in the end. Besides, the Borg would learn about the Zerg tactics and biology immediately and would be able to custom-tailor ways of defeating them without much difficulty.

Mmm...I would probably say the Borg, but Kerrigan is a nastily skilled tactical commander. Her command over the Zerg definitely give them a large edge. I'd say maybe a Borg win, by a hair.

if the zerg can beat the protoss (who dont even have mouths ffs, we cudnt match that!) then they cud beat god, nuff sed.

if the zerg can beat the protoss (who dont even have mouths ffs, we cudnt match that!) then they cud beat god, nuff sed.

But the Protoss come around and pwn them hard in the expansion pack.

But the Protoss come around and pwn them hard in the expansion pack.

Don't Kerrigan and the Zerg win in the end?

Don't Kerrigan and the Zerg win in the end?

Oh, yeah. But they do kill the Zerg Overmind beforehand.

Technological superiority always triumphs over raw numbers in the end. Besides, the Borg would learn about the Zerg tactics and biology immediately and would be able to custom-tailor ways of defeating them without much difficulty.

I don't think it would be that easy, but yes, I'd say that the Borg would eventually win out through sheer ability via both technology and the lack of a cluttered hive structure.

On the other hand...what if they joined forces? Could the Terrans, the Protoss, and the Federation stand a chance? Especially considering how badly the Zerg smashed the combined forces of the Terran Dominion, the UED, and the Protoss forces under ...what's his face? (I forget his name for the moment.)

Well, can the Queen spawn broodlings out of the Borg, despite their cybernetic implants?

Especially considering how badly the Zerg smashed the combined forces of the Terran Dominion, the UED, and the Protoss forceshow badly? It took me several tries to beat that level

Everyone here seems to be forgetting something very important:

No matter how powerful your technology, no matter how great your numbers, no matter how quickly you adapt...

you can't stop the Zerg rush.

No matter how powerful your technology, no matter how great your numbers, no matter how quickly you adapt...

if you're as stupid as the Borg, even Captain Janeway can beat you.

Says who? They don't exactly receive a lot of attempts.

The zerg assimilate at the psionic/phyisical level. Borg at the technological/cyberphysical level. I think the zerg method is more likely to work especially as the Borg haven't even met with or handled psionics in any real way yet.

They've assimilated thousands of races. Given the apparent prevelance of psionic powers in Star Trek, I think it's safe to say that at least one of them had psionic abilities.

True, but if we're talking about a novelization, then everyone can theoretically win out on some technobabble.

Including the Borg, mmm?


They can't just go back in time whenever they feel like. Otherwise, they'd have assimilated everyone by now.

Maybe. Maybe not. Given the possibilities of time travel disaster, it's possible that the Borg have some equivilant to the Prime Directive, violable only in times of extreme need/potential for extreme gain.

No matter how powerful your technology, no matter how great your numbers, no matter how quickly you adapt...

if you're as stupid as the Borg, even Captain Janeway can beat you.

No. Not beat. Stall, frustrate, slow, even hurt. But always, the Borg go on.

Who are the Zerg?

Anyways, the real answer is the Daleks.

All the Borg have to do is assimilate the Zerg.
The Zerg might be vicious bastards, but once the Borg adapt to their poisons and such, theyre screwed.
Also, the Borg ships are uber :P

The Zerg also assimilate new races. They also control their own evolution so they would be able to update their poisons "and such" once the Borg adapted.

And the Zerg queens might be able to do to Borg ships what they do to terran bases. The ships won't seem so uber then.

Anyways, the real answer is the Daleks.

"We would destroy five million cyber-men with one Dalek."

"We would destroy five million cyber-men with one Dalek."

Borg- Resistance is futile.

Zerg- Grarrrh? (do the Zerg have a catchphrase?)

Daleks- This is not resistance. This is pest control.