NationStates Jolt Archive


Will You Watch the Superbowl?

Ashmoria
03-02-2007, 16:50
the superbowl is on sometime tomorrow. its the biggest sporting event in the united states and i hear that it is somewhat popular in the rest of the world.

will you watch it?

and more importantly

if you arent american, WHY would you watch it?

poll to follow
The Nazz
03-02-2007, 16:59
I might drop in on it from time to time, but I won't watch it from beginning to end. I don't have anything invested in it--I don't generally, but my favorite team is usually out of the running by October. This time they were in the League Championship game, so it stings a bit right now. Had the Saints beaten the Bears, I'd be all over the game.
Smunkeeville
03-02-2007, 17:00
I am going to a superbowl party, which is where we all bring a bunch of food, most of the men watch the game, most of the women don't, and all of the kids run around screaming and playing tag.

I am taking my headache medicine before I go.
Dobbsworld
03-02-2007, 17:00
I'd sooner watch paint dry.
Kolvokia
03-02-2007, 17:01
Generally just the adds, and maybe the half-time show.
Ollieland
03-02-2007, 17:01
I'd sooner watch paint dry.

Seconded
Jibraan
03-02-2007, 17:04
I am a football fan, but the Superbowl is overrated. I think I'll give in this year and do something else with my girlfriend.
Ashmoria
03-02-2007, 17:04
i find it odd that people who dont watch a single game during the season still watch the superbowl. why? i just dont see the point of watching one game a year. especially one that goes on and on and on.

we dont even have to watch for the ads anymore. the good ones will be all over the net on monday.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
03-02-2007, 17:05
It might actually be on here, on some obscure cable sports channel, but I wouldn't watch it anyway.

I only watched it once, when I was studying in the US years ago - had no clue about American football and had to have it explained to me throughout the game. I still think the game is silly, what with all the "yeah, let's play for 3 seconds, advance two yards, stop for a while to chat, and then do it over!" but the one I watched was the one where the Denver Broncos (I think <.<) won with their "old" player whose name I forgot, something like... Dave Ellworth? Dan Ellings? (???? Something with a D and an E, in any case :p) and it was pretty close and exciting for a long while, so it was as much fun to watch as a football game can be to someone who thinks it's mindnumbingly boring and doesn't know the rules. :)
Ashmoria
03-02-2007, 17:06
Generally just the adds, and maybe the half-time show.

oooooo maybe this year we'll get to see PRINCE'S nipple!
I V Stalin
03-02-2007, 17:06
the superbowl is on sometime tomorrow. its the biggest sporting event in the united states and i hear that it is somewhat popular in the rest of the world.

will you watch it?

and more importantly

if you arent american, WHY would you watch it?

poll to follow
No, I won't watch it. Apparently ITV (main terrestrial commercial tv channel here) are showing it, but I have no interest in American Football. I have no idea why I'd want to watch it.
Cannot think of a name
03-02-2007, 17:06
I just scored a tv twice as large as I have any right of owning, so I was just for ceremonies sake going to watch at home when I got off work, but then I made a drunken promise to go to a Super Bowl party. Stupid drunken promises...

I don't even know who's playing. I don't really care.

Even the ads I'm pretty sure I can just watch on YouTube later or something. Ah well.
The Nazz
03-02-2007, 17:07
i find it odd that people who dont watch a single game during the season still watch the superbowl. why? i just dont see the point of watching one game a year. especially one that goes on and on and on.

we dont even have to watch for the ads anymore. the good ones will be all over the net on monday.

Hell, I have a visceral distaste for advertising in general, so the ads are an even greater reason for me to avoid the Superbowl.
New Stalinberg
03-02-2007, 17:07
I'd sooner watch paint dry.

Indeed.
Johnny B Goode
03-02-2007, 17:10
the superbowl is on sometime tomorrow. its the biggest sporting event in the united states and i hear that it is somewhat popular in the rest of the world.

will you watch it?

and more importantly

if you arent american, WHY would you watch it?

poll to follow

I probably wouldn't this year.

Reason 1: The Pats, my favorite team, aren't in it.
Reason 2: The halftime show doesn't even sound interesting. I watched Bowl 40, even though it was Steelers-Seahawks, because I wanted to see the Stones. This year, they're doing Prince, or whatever his name is now.
Smunkeeville
03-02-2007, 17:10
i find it odd that people who dont watch a single game during the season still watch the superbowl. why? i just dont see the point of watching one game a year. especially one that goes on and on and on.

we dont even have to watch for the ads anymore. the good ones will be all over the net on monday.

all of the men in my family (and all of my husband's friends) watch every single game televised here, some of them have special cable packages, some of us have season tickets to the local college games........football is like a religion here. :p
Imperial isa
03-02-2007, 17:12
reading this i love seeing the Australian AFL Grand Final and the Superbowl have same things ,game on TV ,food and boozes
Ashmoria
03-02-2007, 17:12
all of the men in my family (and all of my husband's friends) watch every single game televised here, some of them have special cable packages, some of us have season tickets to the local college games........football is like a religion here. :p

my nephew got satellite tv just so he could get the football package. its big here too.

do the men in your family bet on the superbowl?
Smunkeeville
03-02-2007, 17:14
my nephew got satellite tv just so he could get the football package. its big here too.

do the men in your family bet on the superbowl?

no. we don't really gamble. ;)
Wallonochia
03-02-2007, 17:14
A friend of mine just got a new big screen HDTV, so I'd probably watch it, because I'll watch just about anything in HD. However, I will be on a flight from Chicago to Madrid during the game, so I won't be able to watch it.
Ashmoria
03-02-2007, 17:17
Hell, I have a visceral distaste for advertising in general, so the ads are an even greater reason for me to avoid the Superbowl.

me too. but its kinda like the next-day discussion of what people wore to the oscars.

i dont give a damn but sometimes there is something so spectacularly good or bad that its worth looking at. i greatly appreciate someone else having to sort through the dreck so i dont have to bother.
Drunk commies deleted
03-02-2007, 17:17
the superbowl is on sometime tomorrow. its the biggest sporting event in the united states and i hear that it is somewhat popular in the rest of the world.

will you watch it?

and more importantly

if you arent american, WHY would you watch it?

poll to follow

I'll watch it. I'll be at the Elks lodge with my friends and fellow lodge members and we'll be drinking, eating, and having a good time.
Dobbsworld
03-02-2007, 17:20
People who watch the superbowl in order to discuss the commercials the next day need a good hard slap.
The Nazz
03-02-2007, 17:21
me too. but its kinda like the next-day discussion of what people wore to the oscars.

i dont give a damn but sometimes there is something so spectacularly good or bad that its worth looking at. i greatly appreciate someone else having to sort through the dreck so i dont have to bother.

Ah, the glory of not working on Mondays. :D
JuNii
03-02-2007, 17:22
SUPER-AD SUNDAY!!!! :D
Soheran
03-02-2007, 17:23
I've never watched even a minute of it in my entire life. I don't intend to start now.
The Nazz
03-02-2007, 17:25
I've never watched even a minute of it in my entire life. I don't intend to start now.

That's how I feel about Survivor.;)
Ashmoria
03-02-2007, 17:25
there was a bit on the news last night...

the NFL is telling churches that they cannot hold superbowl parties in their church with big ass projection tvs.

only sports bars are allowed to do that.

if a church wants to hold a nonalcoholic event, they have to have a tv no bigger than 55 inches.
The Nazz
03-02-2007, 17:29
there was a bit on the news last night...

the NFL is telling churches that they cannot hold superbowl parties in their church with big ass projection tvs.

only sports bars are allowed to do that.

if a church wants to hold a nonalcoholic event, they have to have a tv no bigger than 55 inches.

Sports bars pay dearly for the privilege to project those games, which is why the NFL is putting that restriction on the churches.
Kiryu-shi
03-02-2007, 17:29
Yes, I heart football, I like the Colts, I will be watching it. The question for me is should I go down to the city on Sunday and attend a superbowl party with my friends, and cut school on Monday, or should I be responsible and watch it with *shudder* my parents.
Ashmoria
03-02-2007, 17:35
Yes, I heart football, I like the Colts, I will be watching it. The question for me is should I go down to the city on Sunday and attend a superbowl party with my friends, and cut school on Monday, or should I be responsible and watch it with *shudder* my parents.

that is a no-brainer.

you do NOT have a responsibility to watch football with your parents.

go to the city and have fun.
Kiryu-shi
03-02-2007, 17:37
that is a no-brainer.

you do NOT have a responsibility to watch football with your parents.

go to the city and have fun.

No, the responsible part would be not missing school on Monday. Don't worry, I have no qualms about abandoning my parents at any and every given moment.
Ashmoria
03-02-2007, 17:45
No, the responsible part would be not missing school on Monday. Don't worry, I have no qualms about abandoning my parents at any and every given moment.

oh PHEW

youre a good student arent you? if you are, blowing off one day is no big deal

if you arent, you know youre gonna blow it off anyway.
Kiryu-shi
03-02-2007, 17:53
oh PHEW

youre a good student arent you? if you are, blowing off one day is no big deal

if you arent, you know youre gonna blow it off anyway.

I like your logic. Muchly. :)
Divine Imaginary Fluff
03-02-2007, 18:01
I'll go to Uncyclopedia and watch their Superb Owl reskin.

Then go to Illogicopedia and write incoherent garbage and dork around as usual. Meh. Silly sports.
New Mitanni
03-02-2007, 18:03
Not only will I be spending National Men's Holiday watching the Superbowl, but I will probably be doing so at the local Hooter's, where hot babes in tight, skimpy uniforms will be serving me food and drink all day :D
German Nightmare
03-02-2007, 18:07
No. I used to watch and enjoy it but now I don't give a rat's ass for U.S. sports any longer.
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It might actually be on here, on some obscure cable sports channel, but I wouldn't watch it anyway.
Actually, the ARD will be showing it tomorrow night...
Gartref
03-02-2007, 18:38
Colts 35, Bears 20.
Ashmoria
03-02-2007, 18:38
Not only will I be spending National Men's Holiday watching the Superbowl, but I will probably be doing so at the local Hooter's, where hot babes in tight, skimpy uniforms will be serving me food and drink all day :D

lol

i guess thats why they hold it on sunday. its a religious experience.
Underdownia
03-02-2007, 18:49
When drunk I once attempted to make a joke about a not very intelligent American thinking that "hyperbole" was the game after the superbowl. It wasn't very funny at all, as Im sure you can imagine. ho-hum.

Anyway, on topic...I have no idea whatsoever about the rules of the game, so it would probably interest me about as much as Curling. Might have given it a go if it was on at a more favourable time.
The Italian Union
03-02-2007, 18:53
I'm not a big football fan, but I like going to the party that my family's friends hold every year. I'll probably watch part of it since this is the only football game the whole year (besides college Ducks vs Beavers) where I'm interested to see the outcome.
The Vuhifellian States
03-02-2007, 18:54
Yes, I'll watch it.

If the Colts win, I'll deny ever being around a TV tomorrow.
Swilatia
03-02-2007, 18:57
no. they don't even show it in Poland.
Lacadaemon
03-02-2007, 18:58
No I won't.

I don't mind football, but the TV hoopla and purile coverage made me stop watching the NFL some years ago. So since I've watched none of the season there is no point.

Also fuck Bill 'da big tuna' Parcells. It mostly him that made me stop watching. A
New Xero Seven
03-02-2007, 19:02
GO WILDCATS!!! WOOOOOO!!!! :eek:
OcceanDrive2
03-02-2007, 19:05
Sports bars pay dearly for the privilege to project those games, which is why the NFL is putting that restriction on the churches.a friend of mine owns a big sports Bar in Montreal.. He told me any Montreal Bar can easily get a cheap Superbowl package.. what is actually very expensive for him is to show the ads !!!
Congo--Kinshasa
03-02-2007, 19:21
I couldn't give less of a shit about football.

My mom, on the other hand...
IL Ruffino
03-02-2007, 19:27
The ads, of course.

I can't watch the game, I'd rather wax my entire body.
Poliwanacraca
03-02-2007, 19:42
I'm staying at my parents' house at the moment, and my father is a football fan, so I'm sure I'll watch some of the game with him. I doubt I'll have the patience to sit through the whole thing, though.
German Nightmare
03-02-2007, 19:43
My mom, on the other hand...
Yeah! Yo mamma... :D
Jello Biafra
03-02-2007, 19:44
Sort of. I won't especially be watching the game, but I'm in a pool and so I need (okay, want) to pay attention to the score.
Nkmjhiuy
03-02-2007, 19:47
Will I watch the Super Bowl? Yes, if I don't find myself getting too intoxicated at a Super Bowl party to do so. You left out Super Bowl parties and they are at leaste as big of an attraction as the game.
Snafturi
03-02-2007, 19:50
I like the parties. I like the commercials. Half-time shows are generally entertaining.

It's usually the only professional american football I watch all year. I like college football more. Gone are my rapid sport's junkie days.

I can't this year because I'm moving. Or at least trying to move.
Sarkhaan
03-02-2007, 19:53
The ads, of course.

I can't watch the game, I'd rather wax my entire body.

Who's the bro going for?


I'll be doing our yearly tradition: 25 people, 3 beer balls, tons of food, 3 TVs (football on the biggest screen, puppy bowl on the next, and some shitty movie on the third), and beer pong in the background.
IL Ruffino
03-02-2007, 20:04
Who's the bro going for?

I have no clue, and he went out for a run so he's not here to ask..

I'll guess and say the Colts. The Colts, right? They're in the Superbowl, yeah? *shrugs*

I'll be doing our yearly tradition: 25 people, 3 beer balls, tons of food, 3 TVs (football on the biggest screen, puppy bowl on the next, and some shitty movie on the third), and beer pong in the background.

And I'll be right there with you.

.. well.. with the beer, but there at your house.
Sarkhaan
03-02-2007, 20:07
I have no clue, and he went out for a run so he's not here to ask..

I'll guess and say the Colts. The Colts, right? They're in the Superbowl, yeah? *shrugs*
Ya know, its weird. Alot of Pats fans have been going for the colts. I am too, but I don't know why. Besides my eternal hatred of the bears.


And I'll be right there with you.

.. well.. with the beer, but there at your house.

see ya there.
Bolol
03-02-2007, 20:14
I MIGHT have taken more interest in the game itself like I have in the past if the Patriots were playing. But regardless, I pay more attention to the ads than anything else.
IL Ruffino
03-02-2007, 20:21
Ya know, its weird. Alot of Pats fans have been going for the colts. I am too, but I don't know why. Besides my eternal hatred of the bears.

The Colts just have a prettier name. *nods*
[QUOTE]see ya there./QUOTE]

With beer!
Sarkhaan
03-02-2007, 20:33
The Colts just have a prettier name. *nods*
true. And they aren't the bears.

With beer!

:)
IL Ruffino
03-02-2007, 20:39
true. And they aren't the bears.

what's wrong with liking daaaaaaa Bears?
:)

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Sel Appa
03-02-2007, 21:02
I won't watch it because it's a retarded little game with more focus on advertising. Most people watch it just to see the halftime show and the ads. My mom is one of those. I'll be enjoying the night with the Europeans who stayed up late for whatever reason...
Ashmoria
03-02-2007, 21:20
Will I watch the Super Bowl? Yes, if I don't find myself getting too intoxicated at a Super Bowl party to do so. You left out Super Bowl parties and they are at leaste as big of an attraction as the game.

i considered parties part of the spectacle.
Soviestan
03-02-2007, 21:49
I not care about the game to be honest, its a crappy matchup. However I do want to see the ads.
Johnny B Goode
03-02-2007, 23:08
Yeah, but I don't want to see the ads. My dad will, because he'll watch football no matter who's playing. To his credit, despite being an immigrant, he understands football as well as anybody raised in America.
IL Ruffino
03-02-2007, 23:15
Yeah, but I don't want to see the ads. My dad will, because he'll watch football no matter who's playing. To his credit, despite being an immigrant, he understands football as well as anybody raised in America.

I've watched the Superbowl many times, I've played football in gym class. and I still have no idea what's going on.

Football makes no sense to me.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
03-02-2007, 23:18
However, I will be on a flight from Chicago to Madrid during the game, so I won't be able to watch it.
:eek: :)

Two more days and you can have fresh croissants for breakfast every day! :fluffle:
Socialist Pyrates
03-02-2007, 23:39
I've watched the Superbowl many times, I've played football in gym class. and I still have no idea what's going on.

Football makes no sense to me.

I used to love American Football or at least the Canadian version of it....when someone told me there was only 12.5 minutes of actual playing time in a 2 hr spectacle I was in in disbelief...I timed it myself with a stopwatch and sure enough it was true, I was very disillusioned so I stopped watching it on TV...someone suggested I go watch an actual game it would be better, it wasn't tedious...without the benefit of tv commercials and numerous video replays to keep your attention it was agony...the only bright spot of a live match was making paper airplanes and trying to hit the cheerleaders in the boobs:D ...
Wallonochia
03-02-2007, 23:45
:eek: :)

Two more days and you can have fresh croissants for breakfast every day! :fluffle:

I'm really more excited about the weather at the moment. Today we've had winds gusting up to 40km/h and with the wind chill it's -23C.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
03-02-2007, 23:59
I'm really more excited about the weather at the moment. Today we've had winds gusting up to 40km/h and with the wind chill it's -23C.
Heee, I see you're already practicing metric. :p

Well, you'll find it pretty balmy here, in that case. Where exactly will you live anyway?
Kyronea
04-02-2007, 00:27
I might drop in on it from time to time, but I won't watch it from beginning to end. I don't have anything invested in it--I don't generally, but my favorite team is usually out of the running by October. This time they were in the League Championship game, so it stings a bit right now. Had the Saints beaten the Bears, I'd be all over the game.

In my circumstances, it's the Broncos defeating the Browns, but more or less the same, except unlike Nazz I don't think I'll watch any of it, if only because my parents won't either and they have control of one of the two T.V.s in the house usually, with the other in the hands of my siblings. (As I usually just download whatever I want to watch, like TDS and TCR, it's not a problem except for catching some things you can't watch that way, like the Superbowl. But since I have no vested interest in the bowl, it doesn't matter.)
Dobbsworld
04-02-2007, 00:35
what's wrong with liking daaaaaaa Bears?

Nothing with liking them, I suppose - it's just finding the means to induce sufficient brain damage to find them, or indeed football itself appealing is somewhat daunting. Apart from the risk that such damage could ultimately prove irreversible, it could lead to things like watching re-runs of VIP, or appearing as a contestant on American Idol.
The blessed Chris
04-02-2007, 00:44
Not a chance. The spectacle itself is probably worth watching, but not in the wee hours of the morning.
Harlesburg
05-02-2007, 00:30
I'm watching it because i have the day off.

Why isn't there a thread on page 1 of General about the Superbowl???
Page 4 WTF!

Anyways Kick return Touchdown!:eek:

EDIT:
How is the host team decided in the neutral venue?
Is it by who had the better record in the regular season?
Nadkor
05-02-2007, 01:01
What time GMT did it kick off? Anybody know?
Iztatepopotla
05-02-2007, 01:17
EDIT:
How is the host team decided in the neutral venue?
Is it by who had the better record in the regular season?

I think it just alternates between American and National Conferences.

Kick-off was at 23:30 GMT.
Vetalia
05-02-2007, 01:20
No, I just don't really like pro football. If it were college, sure, but I just don't like professional sports in general.
Ubundi
05-02-2007, 01:26
Yes; I'm watching it now. Go Bears!
Kamsaki
05-02-2007, 01:27
Most people watch it just to see the halftime show and the ads. My mom is one of those.
Why? Advertainment is just corporate manipulation; why would you watch a show just for the purpose of having sales pitches thrown at you constantly for two hours?
Vetalia
05-02-2007, 01:29
Why? Advertainment is just corporate manipulation; why would you watch a show just for the purpose of having sales pitches thrown at you constantly for two hours?

Because they're entertaining? Honestly, I can't think of a time I bought something because of their Super Bowl ad.
Nadkor
05-02-2007, 01:32
Kick-off was at 23:30 GMT.

Thanks. Bes part of 45 minutes to play 15 of the game?
Kamsaki
05-02-2007, 01:37
Because they're entertaining? Honestly, I can't think of a time I bought something because of their Super Bowl ad.
Surely there must be better sources of entertainment than someone trying to sell you something?
Vetalia
05-02-2007, 01:42
Surely there must be better sources of entertainment than someone trying to sell you something?

Relatively speaking, yes. But they are entertaining.
Harlesburg
05-02-2007, 01:57
I think it just alternates between American and National Conferences.

Kick-off was at 23:30 GMT.
I was asking because my sister wanted to know.
That was one of mu suspicions.
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I can't remember if they show the Half time ads over here.
Doesn't matter anyways, i'm gonna get myself a kebab for lunch.
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Why is WYTYG posting in this thread?:eek:
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The fumble by The Colts that led to the Bears 2nd TD was pretty weak, embarrassing even.
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Whereyouthinkyougoing
05-02-2007, 04:15
Why is WYTYG posting in this thread?:eek: Why are you wondering about why I post in this thread? o.O


The fumble by The Colts that led to the Bears 2nd TD was pretty weak, embarrassing even.
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Oh yeah? :D

Yay Hoosiers! :)
Congressional Dimwits
05-02-2007, 04:23
Had the Saints beaten the Bears, I'd be all over the game.

Me too! I couldn't care less about football (I have actually discussed with someone why I think the teams should just decide which end the ball goes to first and save themselves all the trouble. The man to whom I was saying this turned out to be a coach.), but I just got back from New Orleans, and I was really hoping the Saints would win too.
Kiryu-shi
05-02-2007, 04:49
I'm posting from whats left of the party at my friends house, in Brooklyn, and I had an awesome time. Colts won, game was sloppy but fun to watch, my friends are cool, I ate a ton, and :D in general!
Andaluciae
05-02-2007, 04:51
I love the spectacle, and I rather like Prince, so, yeah, I watched the Superbowl.
Kiryu-shi
05-02-2007, 04:58
I love the spectacle, and I rather like Prince, so, yeah, I watched the Superbowl.

It was a pretty sweet halftime show. :D again!
MrWho
05-02-2007, 04:58
I didn't watch the Superbowl this time. The only reason I actually watch the Superbowl is to use it as my excuse to not do homework. Though I can't put off my homework today because it's due tomorrow.
Ontario within Canada
05-02-2007, 05:00
What is this 'superbowl'? :confused:
Why is watching it important?
How is watching it different from watching ordinary bowls (which is rather boring, even when filled with magically delicious cereals)?
And why did this 'superbowl' make them postpone my Battlestar Galactica? :mad:
Andaluciae
05-02-2007, 05:32
And why did this 'superbowl' make them postpone my Battlestar Galactica? :mad:

Because Jesus hates you. Silence.
IL Ruffino
05-02-2007, 05:35
It was a pretty sweet halftime show. :D again!

Wait.. you liked it?

Maybe it just didn't appeal to me, after all, I hate Prince.. and camera lenses that have water all over them. *shrugs*
Kiryu-shi
05-02-2007, 06:18
Wait.. you liked it?

Maybe it just didn't appeal to me, after all, I hate Prince.. and camera lenses that have water all over them. *shrugs*

*shrugs* I thought singing purple rain in the rain was cool, with all the purple lights that made the rain purple and....yeah. Also, I was eating chilidogs and chips at the time, which makes anything cool.
IL Ruffino
05-02-2007, 06:20
Also, I was eating chilidogs and chips at the time, which makes anything cool.

But of course.

*nods*
Granthor
05-02-2007, 06:38
I was out with some friends a couple of months ago and the pub we were in was showing some American football (shouldn't that be handball anyway? :p ). We tried to get into it but they just kept stopping ever couple of minutes! Where's the fun in that?

I watched the 6 Nations instead. Body armour, pah.
The Nazz
05-02-2007, 06:46
Was this Prince's reply to the whole Janet Jackson dealio from a couple of years ago?

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/6550/107/400/811506/princesuperbowl.jpg
Dododecapod
05-02-2007, 07:19
I was out with some friends a couple of months ago and the pub we were in was showing some American football (shouldn't that be handball anyway? :p ). We tried to get into it but they just kept stopping ever couple of minutes! Where's the fun in that?

I watched the 6 Nations instead. Body armour, pah.

American Football's an acquired taste; you'd need to watch a game with someone who knows it to understand the appeal.

I love the tactical/strategic aspects of the game. So, yeah, I watched it (on Australia's SBS network, best in the world).
Boonytopia
05-02-2007, 08:44
It was on live here, but I have no knowledge of, or interest in the sport, so I didn't watch it. Plus, I was at work. It will be repeated later on tonight, so I could watch it then, but meh.
Intangelon
05-02-2007, 17:07
REVENGE!

Way to go COLTS!

The score was 29-14, but trust me, PRINCE won the Super Bowl. His Royal Purpleness ably and deftly covered Jimi Hendrix's "All Along the Watchtower", and sang "Purple Rain" in the rain, lit purple by neon.

Alex Grossman was finally exposed for the inconsistent boob he is and the Bears' vaunted defense decided it was too wet to play. Great history-making return of the opening kickoff, but after that, I think even my Seahawks would have acquitted themselves better in the rain.

Screw the Bears.

Now, for all those who've posted that US Football is incomprehensible, trust me, games like Aussie Rules Football (notice nobody complains about THAT sport, where you can DRIBBLE the ball as well as run with it in your hands, being called "football"), snooker, and above all cricket, are equally, if not far more incomprehensible.

What's so hard to get about US football? Eleven versus eleven, one ball, play sarts with the center snapping the ball to the quarterback, and while he's trying to advance the ball according to the rules, the defense is trying to stop him. When the ball touches the ground, it's either "live" (behind the line of scrimmage, backward pass/lateral pass, kickoff) or "dead" (forward pass, or a punt before the receiving team touches the ball). When the ball is snapped, the offensive advancement is stopped when the person with the ball is tackled (made to have contact with the ground above the knees or below the elbows after being touched by a defensive player). Watching a game with those principles in mind will inure you to the rest of the rules, which are basically in the periphery or support of those basic ideas (allowable versus prohibited plays and behavior, game clock, play clock, number of plays to advance the ball 10 yards, scoing, change of possession, stuff like that).

Simple. Now, will someone please return the favor for snooker, cricket and Aussie Rules?
Catalasia
05-02-2007, 17:14
The which?
Christmahanikwanzikah
05-02-2007, 17:22
*semisnip*

Honestly, on a couple of those passes from Grossman, it didn't even look like he was trying. I mean, he just aired a couple of those passes out there and hoped one of his own team members would catch it.
The Nazz
05-02-2007, 17:29
Honestly, on a couple of those passes from Grossman, it didn't even look like he was trying. I mean, he just aired a couple of those passes out there and hoped one of his own team members would catch it.

He's been doing that all season long. Most weeks he got away with it. Some weeks he didn't. This was one of those weeks.
Christmahanikwanzikah
05-02-2007, 17:46
He's been doing that all season long. Most weeks he got away with it. Some weeks he didn't. This was one of those weeks.

QB Rating vs Vikings (?): 1.3

yeah, i know what you mean.
No Mans Land Paradise
05-02-2007, 18:22
Congratulations is well deserved and earned for Tony Dungy, Peyton Manning, and the entire Indianapolis Colts. Way to go. Finally, most of the damned critics can shut up for atleast one year.

I predict that the Colt's will be defending the Superbowl Title, making it to Superbowl XLII and to win it. Go Colts!!! Awesome game with the "lovely" weather and all.

As for the Bears maybe they should have listened to their fans when they've been lobbying to have Grossman benched all year.
Farnhamia
05-02-2007, 18:52
And there was actual weather at the game! I can't remember the last time there was weather at a Superbowl game. And Prince was pretty brave, playing an electric guitar in the pouring rain.
Morganatron
05-02-2007, 19:00
This was one year when the Animal Planet Puppy Bowl was more exciting than the game itself. :(

Well, except for the first two minutes. That was pretty entertaining.
CanuckHeaven
05-02-2007, 19:06
the superbowl is on sometime tomorrow. its the biggest sporting event in the united states and i hear that it is somewhat popular in the rest of the world.

will you watch it?

and more importantly

if you arent american, WHY would you watch it?

poll to follow
I have finally decided not to watch the Super Bowl this year. :p
Rubiconic Crossings
05-02-2007, 19:36
What happeded? :p
The Nazz
05-02-2007, 19:42
And there was actual weather at the game! I can't remember the last time there was weather at a Superbowl game. And Prince was pretty brave, playing an electric guitar in the pouring rain.

Probably the last time there was a Superbowl in an open arena instead of a dome. ;)
Farnhamia
05-02-2007, 19:52
Probably the last time there was a Superbowl in an open arena instead of a dome. ;)

Well, shucks, yeah, Nazz.

I think football should be played in the open, with cold and rain and snow and mud and uniforms that get dirty and all that.
The Nazz
05-02-2007, 20:19
Well, shucks, yeah, Nazz.

I think football should be played in the open, with cold and rain and snow and mud and uniforms that get dirty and all that.

Can't have that. The Superbowl isn't about the game anymore, and certainly not about the fans. It's for the corporate bigwigs and the beautiful people, the halftime shows and the television ads. The game is secondary at best these days.
Kiryu-shi
05-02-2007, 20:31
Well, shucks, yeah, Nazz.

I think football should be played in the open, with cold and rain and snow and mud and uniforms that get dirty and all that.

Speaking of mud, that was one amazing field they had out there. It was incredibly stable footing for a non-artificial field in the pouring rain. I was very impressed. And they should have a superbowl in Green Bay or New England or something... In fact, it would be awesome if they didit like the MLB allstar game, with the host city going through a thirty-two team cycle so every city has a chance to host.
Luporum
05-02-2007, 20:34
I've been saying Colts will win by 14 all weak. But nooooo retard Eagles fans swear the Bears have a great defense. Ahahaha time to rub it in like no tomorrow.

Also my last name is Colts, and I still hate these bastards.

My Raiders will return to their former glory. *tear*

Kudos for playing "Purple Rain" in purple rain, and all this time I thought Prince was dead.
The Nazz
05-02-2007, 20:34
Speaking of mud, that was one amazing field they had out there. It was incredibly stable footing for a non-artificial field in the pouring rain. I was very impressed. And they should have a superbowl in Green Bay or New England or something... In fact, it would be awesome if they didit like the MLB allstar game, with the host city going through a thirty-two team cycle so every city has a chance to host.It was apparently a new field grown in Gainesville, trucked in and installed not long after the Dolphins' season ended.
No Mans Land Paradise
05-02-2007, 20:36
I think Superbowls should be limited to Domes only. Throughout the year the teams play in all sorts of different weather. The Superbowl is heavily invested in and I really think it should be held at the cities who have domes.
Kiryu-shi
05-02-2007, 20:39
It was apparently a new field grown in Gainesville, trucked in and installed not long after the Dolphins' season ended.
Well it worked, I for one was very impressed.
I think Superbowls should be limited to Domes only. Throughout the year the teams play in all sorts of different weather. The Superbowl is heavily invested in and I really think it should be held at the cities who have domes.

Which is why they should cycle the stadiums, part of being a good all-around football team is the ability to deal with the conditions. Why have one standard during the season and then change it for the superbowl?
No Mans Land Paradise
05-02-2007, 20:39
It was apparently a new field grown in Gainesville, trucked in and installed not long after the Dolphins' season ended.

Floratam is truely awesome grass. I believe UF were the ones who actually created it, originally.
Farnhamia
05-02-2007, 20:40
Can't have that. The Superbowl isn't about the game anymore, and certainly not about the fans. It's for the corporate bigwigs and the beautiful people, the halftime shows and the television ads. The game is secondary at best these days.
They can have all the ads and stuff, I didn't notice any commercials being skipped yesterday just because it was raining.

Speaking of mud, that was one amazing field they had out there. It was incredibly stable footing for a non-artificial field in the pouring rain. I was very impressed. And they should have a superbowl in Green Bay or New England or something... In fact, it would be awesome if they didit like the MLB allstar game, with the host city going through a thirty-two team cycle so every city has a chance to host.
Good idea! Who's the Commissioner now, I'll drop him a note.

I think Superbowls should be limited to Domes only. Throughout the year the teams play in all sorts of different weather. The Superbowl is heavily invested in and I really think it should be held at the cities who have domes.
I spit on your domes! All your domes are belonging to us of the Weather For Football Party! :D
Kiryu-shi
05-02-2007, 20:43
Good idea! Who's the Commissioner now, I'll drop him a note.

Thanks!
But I actually have no idea who the commissioner is right now...who replaced Tagliabu?
*goes to google*


Edit: From wiki: Roger Goodell.... Goodell was heavily involved in the negotiation of the league's current collective bargaining agreement. He had worked extensively with Tagliabue since the latter became commissioner in 1989.[4] He has played an extensive role in league expansion, realignment, and stadium development, including the launch of the NFL Network and securing new television agreements as well as the latest collective bargaining agreement with the NFL Players Association.
Ice Hockey Players
05-02-2007, 21:00
Roger Goodell replaced Tagliabue. He seems to be a Tags-clone, or at least a protege.

Anywho, I didn't watch the game. For the first time in 14 years, I didn't watch it and didn't know who won until this morning. I was mildly disappointed, but only because I have always had a lot of respect for the Bears and because I didn't want to hear the sportscasters collectively vindicating the massively overrated Peyton Manning.

If I had my way of changing things, I would put the Pro Bowl in the bye week between the conference title game and the Super Bowl, rotate that location, and put the Super Bowl in a neutral location - one of maybe four spots. Las Vegas, Pasadena, Honolulu, and maybe one other...of course, Vegas would need a stadium and Honolulu would need a state-of-the-art stadium to replace Aloha Stadium, but it's all doable. Honolulu loves the Pro Bowl; it would be sad to lose it, but it would likely be tickled about gaining the Super Bowl one out of every four years.

The Pro Bowl would work on a rotation schedule, of course, being played either in a dome or at a warm location, preferably both. Players who made both the Super Bowl AND the Pro Bowl would be invited as guests but unlikely to play, lest they risk injury...they would still count as participants, though. hey, if the NFL insists on an extra week between the semifinals and the finals, they might as well make good use of it.
Kiryu-shi
05-02-2007, 21:07
Roger Goodell replaced Tagliabue. He seems to be a Tags-clone, or at least a protege.

Anywho, I didn't watch the game. For the first time in 14 years, I didn't watch it and didn't know who won until this morning. I was mildly disappointed, but only because I have always had a lot of respect for the Bears and because I didn't want to hear the sportscasters collectively vindicating the massively overrated Peyton Manning.

If I had my way of changing things, I would put the Pro Bowl in the bye week between the conference title game and the Super Bowl, rotate that location, and put the Super Bowl in a neutral location - one of maybe four spots. Las Vegas, Pasadena, Honolulu, and maybe one other...of course, Vegas would need a stadium and Honolulu would need a state-of-the-art stadium to replace Aloha Stadium, but it's all doable. Honolulu loves the Pro Bowl; it would be sad to lose it, but it would likely be tickled about gaining the Super Bowl one out of every four years.

The Pro Bowl would work on a rotation schedule, of course, being played either in a dome or at a warm location, preferably both. Players who made both the Super Bowl AND the Pro Bowl would be invited as guests but unlikely to play, lest they risk injury...they would still count as participants, though. hey, if the NFL insists on an extra week between the semifinals and the finals, they might as well make good use of it.

Super bowl in Hawaii? How would you get the times for that to work? And the pro bowl would lose even more meaning if the super bowlers didn't play... And the cold cities still get no love. IMO it would be so awesome to see a super bowl in Green Bay!
Ice Hockey Players
05-02-2007, 21:14
Super bowl in Hawaii? How would you get the times for that to work? And the pro bowl would lose even more meaning if the super bowlers didn't play... And the cold cities still get no love. IMO it would be so awesome to see a super bowl in Green Bay!

A Super Bowl in Hawaii would be simple - yes, it starts at 6:25 over here on the East Coast. What time is that in Hawaii? Just 1:25. It's not that different from a Super Bowl in California, and it might actually be light out (although yes, I suppose a night Super Bowl seems to be a big deal now, and the game would liekly end before nightfall.)

As for the Pro Bowl losing meaning...well, keep in mind that there are usually good players who didn't make the Super Bowl. At every position. So Peyton Manning doesn't play in this year's Pro Bowl? That's OK; Philip Rivers and Tom Brady can still play. And the NFC's defense would only hurt some by the sitting out of Brian Urlacher. It's not that big a deal.

As for the cold weather game...let's be honest. As big a deal as the Super Bowl is, and as much money as people put down for it, do people want to sit in the stadium in a foot of snow when it's ten below? The Super Bowl is a reward. The conference title game going through Green Bay, Denver, Chicago, or New England is one thing; that damn sure should be a fight against everything. The Super Bowl should be, even if it isn't always, in close-to-perfect conditions, with the game being decided by who played better, not by poor weather.

I will grant this - a cold-weather Super Bowl as an experiment might be a good idea. But if I'm the commissioner of the NFL, I am extremely uneasy about approving it.
Farnhamia
05-02-2007, 21:17
A Super Bowl in Hawaii would be simple - yes, it starts at 6:25 over here on the East Coast. What time is that in Hawaii? Just 1:25. It's not that different from a Super Bowl in California, and it might actually be light out (although yes, I suppose a night Super Bowl seems to be a big deal now, and the game would liekly end before nightfall.)

As for the Pro Bowl losing meaning...well, keep in mind that there are usually good players who didn't make the Super Bowl. At every position. So Peyton Manning doesn't play in this year's Pro Bowl? That's OK; Philip Rivers and Tom Brady can still play. And the NFC's defense would only hurt some by the sitting out of Brian Urlacher. It's not that big a deal.

As for the cold weather game...let's be honest. As big a deal as the Super Bowl is, and as much money as people put down for it, do people want to sit in the stadium in a foot of snow when it's ten below? The Super Bowl is a reward. The conference title game going through Green Bay, Denver, Chicago, or New England is one thing; that damn sure should be a fight against everything. The Super Bowl should be, even if it isn't always, in close-to-perfect conditions, with the game being decided by who played better, not by poor weather.

I will grant this - a cold-weather Super Bowl as an experiment might be a good idea. But if I'm the commissioner of the NFL, I am extremely uneasy about approving it.

Hey, watch that, ordinarily we have pretty mild winters here. Ths one doesn't count ... 62 friggin' inches of snow in Denver and good bit of that still on the ground in my backyard, I could have stayed in New York if I wanted lousy winter weather ... *wanders off*
Ice Hockey Players
05-02-2007, 21:22
Hey, watch that, ordinarily we have pretty mild winters here. Ths one doesn't count ... 62 friggin' inches of snow in Denver and good bit of that still on the ground in my backyard, I could have stayed in New York if I wanted lousy winter weather ... *wanders off*

Still, there's a lot of hoopla made about the thin air, especially back in the '80s when denver went to the Super Bowl a lot thanks to their homefield advantage...and then they faced a superior opponent in the Super Bowl and got killed. They seem to have solved that problem later on (my guess is that Green Bay was the same way, but they won it the year before...perhaps because New England was the same way...or maybe it's just not that much of a problem now the way it was for Denver is the 1980s and Buffalo in the 1990s.)

The big question is this - if I'm in charge of picking the next location for the Super Bowl, would I consider Denver?
Kiryu-shi
05-02-2007, 21:29
Hey, watch that, ordinarily we have pretty mild winters here. Ths one doesn't count ... 62 friggin' inches of snow in Denver and good bit of that still on the ground in my backyard, I could have stayed in New York if I wanted lousy winter weather ... *wanders off*

We had over 62 here in NY in January....just 62 degrees, not inches...:p
Farnhamia
05-02-2007, 21:29
Still, there's a lot of hoopla made about the thin air, especially back in the '80s when denver went to the Super Bowl a lot thanks to their homefield advantage...and then they faced a superior opponent in the Super Bowl and got killed. They seem to have solved that problem later on (my guess is that Green Bay was the same way, but they won it the year before...perhaps because New England was the same way...or maybe it's just not that much of a problem now the way it was for Denver is the 1980s and Buffalo in the 1990s.)

The big question is this - if I'm in charge of picking the next location for the Super Bowl, would I consider Denver?

Let's not go into why Denver couldn't win one, or why we only got those two.

Sure you'd consider Denver, the Democrats are coming here ... okay, seriously, it's a great football town, there's plenty of accomodations for the hordes of people, the Pope came here, uhm ... Monday Night Football seems fond of us ... let's see ... the weather at this time of year is normally pretty mild, so yeah, I think you might. But the idea proposed was to rotate the site around the league, like the All-Star Game, so you wouldn't have to think about it much. I'd think that any of the franchise cities would knock themselves out for a chance to host the game. The idea is that they can support football, so why pass up a chance to host the biggest game?
The Nazz
05-02-2007, 21:29
Hey, watch that, ordinarily we have pretty mild winters here. Ths one doesn't count ... 62 friggin' inches of snow in Denver and good bit of that still on the ground in my backyard, I could have stayed in New York if I wanted lousy winter weather ... *wanders off*

As screwy as the weather's been the last couple of years, and as screwy as it figures to be in the future thanks to global warming, who knows--next year in Denver it might be sunny and 72, while Miami is caught in a snow-hurricane or something.
Intangelon
05-02-2007, 21:55
*parsnip*
Roger Goodell.... Goodell was heavily involved in the negotiation of the league's current collective bargaining agreement. He had worked extensively with Tagliabue since the latter became commissioner in 1989.[4] He has played an extensive role in league expansion, realignment, and stadium development, including the launch of the NFL Network and securing new television agreements as well as the latest collective bargaining agreement with the NFL Players Association.

So you'll have Mr. Goodell to thank when the NFL goes excusively cable/pay-per-view. Yet another sport that seems to forget that the fans largely make the sport what it is. Look what happened to the NBA when they tried to squeeze more money out of it. I haven't watched an NBA game, regular season or playoffs, since about 2001. I prefer March Madness in the college realm. Same thing with the NHL. Do you realize that there's a pro hockey team in Phoenix, Tampa, LA, Anaheim, Dallas and wherever the Florida Panthers play? These are not hockey towns by any stretch of the imagination! Meanwhile, great former hockey towns with smaller markets like Winnipeg and Hartford were shut out. Perhaps the NHL should have expanded to more than just the original 8 teams, but come on, Carolina?

Anyway, I hope the new NFL commissioner doesn't either dilute or exclusivize the game any more. 32 teams might be ideal, but it borders on too many. The best of the best should be pros -- Major League Baseball has proven that diluting the talent pool (especially with pitching) is a bad idea.

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Farnhamia
05-02-2007, 22:02
As screwy as the weather's been the last couple of years, and as screwy as it figures to be in the future thanks to global warming, who knows--next year in Denver it might be sunny and 72, while Miami is caught in a snow-hurricane or something.

Could very well be. It was 72 in NYC in early January.
Soviestan
05-02-2007, 22:02
no I will not.
Farnhamia
05-02-2007, 22:06
So you'll have Mr. Goodell to thank when the NFL goes excusively cable/pay-per-view. Yet another sport that seems to forget that the fans largely make the sport what it is. Look what happened to the NBA when they tried to squeeze more money out of it. I haven't watched an NBA game, regular season or playoffs, since about 2001. I prefer March Madness in the college realm. Same thing with the NHL. Do you realize that there's a pro hockey team in Phoenix, Tampa, LA, Anaheim, Dallas and wherever the Florida Panthers play? These are not hockey towns by any stretch of the imagination! Meanwhile, great former hockey towns with smaller markets like Winnipeg and Hartford were shut out. Perhaps the NHL should have expanded to more than just the original 8 teams, but come on, Carolina?

Anyway, I hope the new NFL commissioner doesn't either dilute or exclusivize the game any more. 32 teams might be ideal, but it borders on too many. The best of the best should be pros -- Major League Baseball has proven that diluting the talent pool (especially with pitching) is a bad idea.

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I agree, football is trembling on the brink of a bit too much "parity." Baseball's already there, I think.
Ice Hockey Players
05-02-2007, 22:18
I agree, football is trembling on the brink of a bit too much "parity." Baseball's already there, I think.

I don't know; I think that's parity done right. In any given season, any team has a chance and can create a kickass story line. This past year, it was Peyton Manning and Rex Grossman, not to mention Brian Urlacher, Indy in an outdoor game, and a sidebar of the Superfans cheering "Da Bearssss." Last year, it was MVP Shaun Alexander and second-year QB Ben Roethlisberger drawing comparisons to Dan Marino. There are still teams that tend to be good year after year, but it isn't as if any team (that is, any team that isn't mismanaged into oblivion) is without a shot.

The NHL still needs to work on that while going back to their traditional fan base, i.e. watching some teams in odd markets for potential contraction/relocation. MLB seems to want to avoid addressing that problem if they can help it. I'm frankly ready to give up on MLB, what with the steroid issues going on with that, but that's a separate issue. The NFL does parity right.
The Nazz
05-02-2007, 22:49
I don't know; I think that's parity done right. In any given season, any team has a chance and can create a kickass story line. This past year, it was Peyton Manning and Rex Grossman, not to mention Brian Urlacher, Indy in an outdoor game, and a sidebar of the Superfans cheering "Da Bearssss." Last year, it was MVP Shaun Alexander and second-year QB Ben Roethlisberger drawing comparisons to Dan Marino. There are still teams that tend to be good year after year, but it isn't as if any team (that is, any team that isn't mismanaged into oblivion) is without a shot.

The NHL still needs to work on that while going back to their traditional fan base, i.e. watching some teams in odd markets for potential contraction/relocation. MLB seems to want to avoid addressing that problem if they can help it. I'm frankly ready to give up on MLB, what with the steroid issues going on with that, but that's a separate issue. The NFL does parity right.The real parity storyline this year was the Saints. Nothing against the Bears, but the Saints went from being homeless and 3-13 to a division championship and a first week bye in a single year.
Ice Hockey Players
05-02-2007, 22:53
The real parity storyline this year was the Saints. Nothing against the Bears, but the Saints went from being homeless and 3-13 to a division championship and a first week bye in a single year.

No argument there. Frankly, the Bears have been good off-and-on for a few years now, but any team that goes from terrible to really good in one year is proof that teams can be turned around. And it isn't as if teams hardly ever do it in the NFL, either. The patriots came from nowhere, as did the Rams, the Giants, etc. It can be done. Of course, it isn't always done; the Colts have been good for a few years now. But it can be.
Unabashed Greed
05-02-2007, 23:27
The best part of this superbowl was the Grossman foul-ups. I knew they were coming. Looks like he just saved it all up for the superbowl. Perfect timing IMO.

What I have trouble understanding is all the player-hating on Peyton Manning. He's a great QB, he even has, or is ranked close to the top in, a couple of NFL records. Do people hate him because he does quirky Visa commercials?
Wilgrove
05-02-2007, 23:34
Colts won, and I won my bet with my girlfriend and $10! Whooot!
Harlesburg
05-02-2007, 23:59
Roger Goodell replaced Tagliabue. He seems to be a Tags-clone, or at least a protege.

Anywho, I didn't watch the game. For the first time in 14 years, I didn't watch it and didn't know who won until this morning. I was mildly disappointed, but only because I have always had a lot of respect for the Bears and because I didn't want to hear the sportscasters collectively vindicating the massively overrated Peyton Manning.

If I had my way of changing things, I would put the Pro Bowl in the bye week between the conference title game and the Super Bowl, rotate that location, and put the Super Bowl in a neutral location - one of maybe four spots. Las Vegas, Pasadena, Honolulu, and maybe one other...of course, Vegas would need a stadium and Honolulu would need a state-of-the-art stadium to replace Aloha Stadium, but it's all doable. Honolulu loves the Pro Bowl; it would be sad to lose it, but it would likely be tickled about gaining the Super Bowl one out of every four years.

The Pro Bowl would work on a rotation schedule, of course, being played either in a dome or at a warm location, preferably both. Players who made both the Super Bowl AND the Pro Bowl would be invited as guests but unlikely to play, lest they risk injury...they would still count as participants, though. hey, if the NFL insists on an extra week between the semifinals and the finals, they might as well make good use of it.
But what player who is in the Finals would dare play in the Probowl least they be injured?
Harlesburg
06-02-2007, 00:19
Why are you wondering about why I post in this thread? o.O
Because i stalk you...
Oh yeah? :D

Yay Hoosiers! :)
Actually i'm a Colts fan.:p
Ice Hockey Players
06-02-2007, 17:15
But what player who is in the Finals would dare play in the Probowl least they be injured?

That's what I said. They would be invited, but only to be honored and would almost certainly not suit up for that reason. However, they should still at least be honored.

It wouldn't be that much of a distraction for a player who's in the Super Bowl to make the trip from the Pro Bowl out to wherever the Super Bowl is...I also suppose that they could do the Pro Bowl and Super Bowl in the same city, but both of those should be rewards, and considering that the host city of the Super Bowl could have an effect on who's in attendance (it hasn't done thaat so far, at least not seriously, but it could...and come to think of it, if a team makes the Super Bowl in a hostile city, that could have a negative effect) then it really shouldn't be in an NFL team's city. The Pro Bowl, though, isn't a problem; the fans deserve to see their stars in their stadium one more time.

College football has it figured out - a four-year rotation. They have Phoenix, New Orleans, Miami, and Pasadena. The NFL can use Las Vegas, Pasadena/Los Angeles, San Antonio, and Honolulu for the same thing, although some of those cities may need stadiums. Ideally, I would enocurage Vegas to build a state-of-the-art domed facility, Honolulu to built a nice outdoor stadium that seats way more than Aloha Stadium does, and San Antonio to add a facility as well, perhaps of the retractable roof variety. The Coliseum and Rose Bowl will work fine for LA.

The cities that should get the Pro Bowl...hmm, Miami, Jacksonville, Indianapolis (dome,) Houston, San Diego, Atlanta, New Orleans (definitely,) Tampa Bay, Phoenix, St. Louis (another dome,) Detroit (also a dome,) and Minnesota (Hefty bag dome.) That's 12 cities, so once every 12 years. Maybe throw in an experimental stadium here and there and any team that builds a dome, but that should be plenty for now.

Of course, the NFL is too stodgy to implemet any changes that really ought to be made.