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Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?

Any explanation we provide is just going to boil down to "Because...it's hot."

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?

It's because we're guys.

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?


Man it's very easy to understand. The thought of two women together in that way, is very arouseing for a man.

For the record, it's not all lesbians.

And yeah, it's hot.

It's one of those things that we may never fully understand, but it's just a fact. Lesbians = hot.

Any explanation we provide is just going to boil down to "Because...it's hot."
That's what everyone else says too. I still don't understand why. I certainly don't find it "hot" or "arousing".

I've said it before, it's to do with efficiency: Twice as many girly-bits per pixel.

It's one of those things that we may never fully understand, but it's just a fact. Lesbians = hot.

Not to this guy.

My very simple theory is that, if you can't have something, you automatically want it.

For the same reason women are attracted to man who are obviously gay. Men like the idea of two women together...women like a lot of things about guys that are more likely to be present in gay guys. It doesn't make a lick of sense.

That's what everyone else says too. I still don't understand why. I certainly don't find it "hot" or "arousing".

Are you a man?

You guys are off your rocker. Porn lesbians may be hot, cuz you get two girls for the price of one, and because they're not actual lesbians. Actual lesbians are not hot.

My very simple theory is that, if you can't have something, you automatically want it.

That's what I was thinking too. But is it always true?

For the same reason women are attracted to man who are obviously gay. Men like the idea of two women together...women like a lot of things about guys that are more likely to be present in gay guys. It doesn't make a lick of sense.

hhehehe you sed lick!

its because dykes are hot and because they do it so damn well

Its almost as if they plan it before hand go through months of practice just so they can lick each other in front of you ;)

You guys are off your rocker. Porn lesbians may be hot, cuz you get two girls for the price of one, and because they're not actual lesbians. Actual lesbians are not hot.

Some are, most aint!

hhehehe you sed lick!

Thanks for catching that; I completely missed it.

You guys are off your rocker. Porn lesbians may be hot, cuz you get two girls for the price of one, and because they're not actual lesbians. Actual lesbians are not hot.

Actual lesbians may or may not be hot, depending on the lesbian. Of course, it's quite unlikely you'll ever get up to anything with them, or see them getting up to anything. It only makes the blindest bit of difference in porn.

For the same reason women are attracted to man who are obviously gay. Men like the idea of two women together...women like a lot of things about guys that are more likely to be present in gay guys. It doesn't make a lick of sense.
It doesn't make evolutionary sense, unless homosexuality is actually an evolutionary advantage and only the gay people will survive a massive ITHC epidemic in twenty years and that's why people are more attracted to them. Still, how would they repopulate the world afterwards.

Are you a man?
Good point.

You guys are off your rocker. Porn lesbians may be hot, cuz you get two girls for the price of one, and because they're not actual lesbians. Actual lesbians are not hot.
I was wondering about that, yes. I know some lesbians and none of them are particularly attractive. I don't watch lesbian porn, so maybe that explains it.

its because dykes are hot and because they do it so damn well

Its almost as if they plan it before hand go through months of practice just so they can lick each other in front of you ;)

I agree, lesbians are hot, some anyway, I have seen some ugly MFers.

Because two girls having sex means you double its beautifull parts, and take off the ugly parts, meaning other´s guys cocks.

men seem to prefer the fake lesbians of porn to real life cant-be-bothered-with-a-man lesbians.

the fantasy of being invited to join in with 2 horny women and all those woman-parts-needing-male-attention. more of everything that a man likes.

For the same reason women are attracted to man who are obviously gay.

actually women find the whole gay thing icky and in experience tend to be freaked out by guys doing fairly light stuff (then again I am European)

the fantasy of being invited to join in with 2 horny women and all those woman-parts-needing-male-attention. more of everything that a man likes.

:p Shows what you know, female person.

When you're watching porn, the last thing you want to see (as a straight man) is another big hairy man.. **shudder**

the fantasy of being invited to join in with 2 horny women and all those woman-parts-needing-male-attention. more of everything that a man likes.

... but if they were lesbians, would they really ask a male to join in? I doubt it. <.< It simply doesn't make any sense.

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?

why be obsessed with someone who's not attracted to me and won't F me anyway? Bisexual chicks are a different story because then there's some hope of wonderful trios.

I agree, lesbians are hot, some anyway, I have seen some ugly MFers.

well yeah I suppose its allot easier to get hot lesbian action well I think so I’m not entirely sure :confused:

For the same reason women are attracted to man who are obviously gay. Men like the idea of two women together...women like a lot of things about guys that are more likely to be present in gay guys. It doesn't make a lick of sense.

women are attracted to men who are obviously gay? since when?

When you're watching porn, the last thing you want to see (as a straight man) is another big hairy man.. **shudder**

I'm talking more about "real life" than porn -- people tend to drag their porn-based obsessions into the open, even into non-internet life. (oxymoron?)

men seem to prefer the fake lesbians of porn to real life cant-be-bothered-with-a-man lesbians.

the fantasy of being invited to join in with 2 horny women and all those woman-parts-needing-male-attention. more of everything that a man likes.

I know I'd prefer the illusion of something good over a harsh dose of reality any day of the week myself. It's why people burn sick days just to stay home and watch All My Children and then go out and spend ten bucks on the Powerball because there's a one-in-ten-billion chance they can win $250 million.

Think about it - which image would the average man prefer? Two hot, naked best friends making out on camera and really getting into it? Or two boring, man-hating, virtually asexual lesbian stereotypes? Me, I'll flip a coin. Heads, I take the first option. Tails, I don't take the second.

... but if they were lesbians, would they really ask a male to join in? I doubt it. <.< It simply doesn't make any sense.

And therein lies the stupidity of men being attracted to lesbians.

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... but if they were lesbians, would they really ask a male to join in? I doubt it. <.< It simply doesn't make any sense.

hope springs eternal.

it doesnt make any sense. and in reality, they dont have much regard for real lesbians.

When you're watching porn, the last thing you want to see (as a straight man) is another big hairy man.. **shudder**

explains why in porno the guy is always well shaven not that I have noticed or anything...

... but if they were lesbians, would they really ask a male to join in? I doubt it. <.< It simply doesn't make any sense.

if you was having hot sex with a woman would you ask another woman to join in?

I hope the same logic applies here :D

why be obsessed with someone who's not attracted to me and won't F me anyway?

isn't that women in general? :p

women are attracted to men who are obviously gay? since when?

Not necessarily BECAUSE they think they're gay, but the idea of a woman seeking a man who fits a certain mold but being discouraged because the only men who seem to fit that mold are gay.

I'm reminded of a Miller Lite commercial where two women are at a bar looking for guys. One spies a guy in a booth and is describing how hot he is...then the other starts talking about a guy who just joined him in the same terms. The guys make it clear they they are actually a couple.

So it's more of a discouragement, it seems.

Think about it - which image would the average man prefer? Two hot, naked best friends making out on camera and really getting into it? Or two boring, man-hating, virtually asexual lesbian stereotypes? Me, I'll flip a coin. Heads, I take the first option. Tails, I don't take the second.

^ iProve v:
it doesnt make any sense. and in reality, they dont have much regard for real lesbians.

You guys are off your rocker. Porn lesbians may be hot, cuz you get two girls for the price of one, and because they're not actual lesbians. Actual lesbians are not hot.

That's not exactly accurate. Lesbians come in all shapes and sizes, just like everyone else. Some are attractive, some are not.

I only watch gay/lesbian porn. Mostly lesbian. Straight guys in porn are hideous.

I know I'd prefer the illusion of something good over a harsh dose of reality any day of the week myself. It's why people burn sick days just to stay home and watch All My Children and then go out and spend ten bucks on the Powerball because there's a one-in-ten-billion chance they can win $250 million.

Think about it - which image would the average man prefer? Two hot, naked best friends making out on camera and really getting into it? Or two boring, man-hating, virtually asexual lesbian stereotypes? Me, I'll flip a coin. Heads, I take the first option. Tails, I don't take the second.

lol. my point exactly

its the fantasy, not the reality.

the fantasy is hot.

if you was having hot sex with a woman would you ask another woman to join in?

I'd probably be a bit, uh, distracted at the time... so no.

Women are cleaner and prettier and lesbians perform sexual acts that men could easily envision doing to other women.

Not necessarily BECAUSE they think they're gay, but the idea of a woman seeking a man who fits a certain mold but being discouraged because the only men who seem to fit that mold are gay.

I'm reminded of a Miller Lite commercial where two women are at a bar looking for guys. One spies a guy in a booth and is describing how hot he is...then the other starts talking about a guy who just joined him in the same terms. The guys make it clear they they are actually a couple.

So it's more of a discouragement, it seems.

there ARE 2 kinds of women who are attracted to gay men. they are not the average woman.

the first is as you said, the woman who likes that "gay personality" and falls for men who turn out to be gay.

the second is the one who like the idea of a challenge and wants to seduce an otherwise "manly" gay guy into being straight.

there ARE 2 kinds of women who are attracted to gay men. they are not the average woman.

the first is as you said, the woman who likes that "gay personality" and falls for men who turn out to be gay.

the second is the one who like the idea of a challenge and wants to seduce an otherwise "manly" gay guy into being straight.

And therein lies one thing I don't understand about women - why it is they want a guy who's a project. They want to take a guy who isn't desirable and make him desirable - why not just find a guy who is desirable and not risk having them break your heart by being unable to change? Women see men the way men see classic cars. It's one thing for a guy to take parts of an old car, build it into a working machine, and keep it as a trophy. That's a challenge. People are not challenges. And what happens when the challenge isn't there anymore?

Then again...argfa. Women don't understand why a guy would buy parts for a '57 Chevy and try to restore it any more than men understand why a woman would want to try to "change" a guy who isn't desirable.

Then again...argfa. Women don't understand why a guy would buy parts for a '57 Chevy and try to restore it any more than men understand why a woman would want to try to "change" a guy who isn't desirable.

I don't understand either of them! :D

In our culture we have completely sexualized homo-sexuals. They are thought of completely in the context of their sexuality. So two women, who are perceived as lesbians (they dont really have to be lesbians, it is equally attractive if two straight women are getting paid to do it) are looked at as entirely sexual creatures.

It boils down to the objectification that is prevalent in our culture. (Western culture... which is kinda sneaking its way into all cultures.) Women are supposed to be ready and willing to have sex at all times. Two women are better than one, they are ready to have sex, and please a man.

That and the ego... egad the ego... Men always want to be "the best" that his partner has ever had. Now he would have the opportunity to be the best that two women ever had, at once. The thought that he will never have sex with those women ever enters his mind.

And for the person that stated that porn lesbians are hot, and real one arent, is rather true. Two average looking women are not hotter as lesbians, two already attractive women are hotter, than either one apart. But for the record, the men would be quite happy to just have one if that chance arose.

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

I'd probably be a bit, uh, distracted at the time... so no.

don't lie everyone thinks about other stuff…and then you start giggling

men seem to prefer the fake lesbians of porn to real life cant-be-bothered-with-a-man lesbians.

the fantasy of being invited to join in with 2 horny women and all those woman-parts-needing-male-attention. more of everything that a man likes.
Circle gets the square. "We" like "porn lesbians" because that fantasy is hot. And yeah, it's fantasy. We know that-if we wanted reality we'd watch a documentary. When we want a world where everyone is game and no place is off limits we go to porn because that world clearly doesn't exist (and frankly we'd be bothered if it really did...it's a fantasy, dammit.)

If you think about it, in the real world for this 'typical male' (there's a can of worms...), there is nothing but disdain for lesbians-who of course can count among their number not only the mullet wearing cartoon image man haters but any chick who resists a dude's come on. So it's not really a mystery when you really look at it. It's not really lesbians, it's two naked chicks rubbing each other. When you put it that way it shouldn't be that big a mystery.
... but if they were lesbians, would they really ask a male to join in? I doubt it. <.< It simply doesn't make any sense.
Really? "Real" doesn't enter into it-it's fantasy. No, real lesbians wouldn't let you join in. They might in fact wonder how you got in in the first place...but porn lesbians...the sky is the limit.

Do all NSers watch porn or do the ones who do simply all post in this thread?
I guess who have posted most comments here just substitute real life sex (which perhaps they don't have) for fake fantasies on the internet.

And therein lies one thing I don't understand about women - why it is they want a guy who's a project. They want to take a guy who isn't desirable and make him desirable - why not just find a guy who is desirable and not risk having them break your heart by being unable to change? Women see men the way men see classic cars. It's one thing for a guy to take parts of an old car, build it into a working machine, and keep it as a trophy. That's a challenge. People are not challenges. And what happens when the challenge isn't there anymore?

Then again...argfa. Women don't understand why a guy would buy parts for a '57 Chevy and try to restore it any more than men understand why a woman would want to try to "change" a guy who isn't desirable.

its a huge flaw in women's psychology that they think they CAN change a man. the worse flaw is that they think that LOVE is everything, so much so that they are powerless once they LUUUUV him. so, at the extreme, they try to rehabilitate serial killers, marry them on death row, and insist that " you dont know him like i do"


*shudder*

Do all NSers watch porn or do the ones who do simply all post in this thread?
I guess who have posted most comments here just substitute real life sex (which perhaps they don't have) for fake fantasies on the internet.

I assure you, the fantasies on the internet are quite real fantasies.

And therein lies one thing I don't understand about women - why it is they want a guy who's a project. .

Dude, shut the hell up! If chicks didn't 'dig a challenge' I wouldn't get any play. Don't ruin this for me or I might actually have to get a personality and actually take care of myself and shit...

Do all NSers watch porn or do the ones who do simply all post in this thread?
I guess who have posted most comments here just substitute real life sex (which perhaps they don't have) for fake fantasies on the internet.

well arent you better than everyone else!

i suppose you are so pure of heart that you havent ever even glanced at a maxim magazine on the rack at the store.

Do all NSers watch porn or do the ones who do simply all post in this thread?
I guess who have posted most comments here just substitute real life sex (which perhaps they don't have) for fake fantasies on the internet.

Not everyone's buses run on the same schedule, and for those times your partner leaves you at the station you have a friend in porn.

Not to mention that you can get ideas...("Okay Honey, I got this idea from porn...we'll need a tiger rug, two ski poles, a half dozen eggs and an air horn. Wear something you don't want anymore...")

well arent you better than everyone else!

i suppose you are so pure of heart that you havent ever even glanced at a maxim magazine on the rack at the store.

I have actually, but I find it a bit sad when people peer at porn on the internet. Would you like to have sex while someone is filming you? It isn't like real sex at all. So what?

I have actually, but I find it a bit sad when people peer at porn on the internet.
It's only sad when you do it after your cat dies.
Would you like to have sex while someone is filming you?
Some people are into it, even if only for themselves.
It isn't like real sex at all. So what?
Because it's a fantasy...of course it's not like real sex. Much in the same way Lord of the Rings isn't like real anything.

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?

I like lesbians, but mostly because I prefer having a female friend who I can talk about girls who I think are hot with without getting dirty glares.

Tsk. Men are stupid.


*shakes head*

i think it's simply a case of the allure of forbidden fruit.

I have actually, but I find it a bit sad when people peer at porn on the internet. Would you like to have sex while someone is filming you? It isn't like real sex at all. So what?

you need to look at more porn.

is it sad when someone has a sexual fantasy? is it sad when they read romance novels?

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?

1 chick = hot
2 chicks = 2x as hot QED

2 chicks doing stuff to each other = *drools* ;)

I like lesbians, but mostly because I prefer having a female friend who I can talk about girls who I think are hot with without getting dirty glares.

What, you can't talk to straight female friends about that? I've been doing it all wrong then...

...Or my friends are lesbians.

For the same reason women are attracted to man who are obviously gay. Men like the idea of two women together...women like a lot of things about guys that are more likely to be present in gay guys. It doesn't make a lick of sense.

Maybe women just want a friend without the need to hump their leg all the time.

Women like gay men because they're non-threatening.

Men like lesbians because men are dumb, and they just like anything that groups women together and gets them naked.

you need to look at more porn.

is it sad when someone has a sexual fantasy? is it sad when they read romance novels?

I find it sad when someone substitutes his love life for porn.

Women like gay men because they're non-threatening.

Men like lesbians because men are dumb, and they just like anything that groups women together and gets them naked.
I don't know why we have to be 'dumb' to like that. We can't fuck the pornstars in the straight scenes, either. But we can watch, and from their our imaginations and left hand take over...

Women like gay men because they're non-threatening.

Actually, that's not just it. Some women are really turned on by gay men the same way straight men are turned on by lesbian porn. Others simply want what they can't have. But it's a given fact a lot of women are attracted either romantically or physically to gay men.

I can't explain it. It's completely irrationnal, but that's how it happens. And it plagues my life so.

I find it sad when someone substitutes his love life for porn.

as do i. but what does that have to do with looking at porn on the internet or liking (fake) lesbian porn?

I find it sad when someone substitutes his love life for porn.
Substitutes or supplements?

Substitutes or supplements?


Even worse, as that would mean you have a love life and prefer lesbians on the internet to your girlfriend.

I've noticed just as many woman who are fascinated with gay guys as men fascinated with lesbians. It's just men are usually more open about it.

And yes, both of these are hot. Hot, hot, hot, hot. Hot, hot, hot. Searingly hot. Blindingly hot. Flaming hot. Hot as pancakes when dumped into the fiery pits of hell.

Even worse, as that would mean you have a love life and prefer lesbians on the internet to your girlfriend.

What if your girlfriend's not around? "Substitutes" would basically mean skipping out on your girlfriend to watch it. "Supplement" would mean watching it when she's not around.

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?
Lesbians to me aren't especially attractive. Indeed, I am midly repulsed by the sight of two women kissing. It's too weird for me.

I suspect that the men-love-lesbians thing is a myth and completely overblown.

I suspect that the men-love-lesbians thing is a myth and completely overblown.

Yes, just as the whole global warming and woman-love-gay-guys thing.

Lesbians to me aren't especially attractive. Indeed, I am midly repulsed by the sight of two women kissing. It's too weird for me.

I suspect that the men-love-lesbians thing is a myth and completely overblown.

Pff. No.

Sure, maybe not all men, but myth? Seriously, c'mon.

Lesbians to me aren't especially attractive. Indeed, I am midly repulsed by the sight of two women kissing. It's too weird for me.

I suspect that the men-love-lesbians thing is a myth and completely overblown.

There is a thriving segment of porn that disagrees with you.

What if your girlfriend's not around? "Substitutes" would basically mean skipping out on your girlfriend to watch it. "Supplement" would mean watching it when she's not around.


Umm, I doubt your girlfriend would agree.

Umm, I doubt your girlfriend would agree.

You don't still believe that women don't like porn, do you?

My very simple theory is that, if you can't have something, you automatically want it.

Would you want Paris Hilton or Britney Spears then?

:D

Tsk. Men are stupid.


*shakes head*

In other news, Scientists discover that water is wet. More at 11.

You'd think the sight of two women who'd rather have sex with each other than with you ought to be a depressing or embittering sight to men. Then again it's likely a case of labelling bisexual women as "lesbians" out of laziness and male potence fantasy.

You don't still believe that women don't like porn, do you?


I guess it depends, but probably not if you watch it while she's not around. At least that's how it is with practically every woman I know.

I guess it depends, but probably not if you watch it while she's not around. At least that's how it is with practically every woman I know.

Every woman you know wouldn't watch porn if her boyfriend watched porn when she wasn't there?


What the fuck?

This guy I know told me it was because guys always want what they can't have. But this is the same guy who would hook up with any living thing on earth if he thought it meant he'd get laid, so...

This guy I know told me it was because guys always want what they can't have. But this is the same guy who would hook up with any living thing on earth if he thought it meant he'd get laid, so...

TC got some of that, didn't she?

This guy I know told me it was because guys always want what they can't have. But this is the same guy who would hook up with any living thing on earth if he thought it meant he'd get laid, so...

*shrug* Like I said in the beginning, it's just...hot. Ours is not to reason why...

*shrug* Like I said in the beginning, it's just...hot. Ours is not to reason why...

Ours is but to fap all night.

Every woman you know wouldn't watch porn if her boyfriend watched porn when she wasn't there?


What the fuck?


I didn't mean that, I meant that she wouldn't be too pleased.

If you watch porn when you have a girlfriend/wife she usually thinks that you aren't satisfied with her, and obviously takes offence..

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?

Well, it just looks hot seeing lesbians.

I didn't mean that, I meant that she wouldn't be too pleased.

If you watch porn when you have a girlfriend/wife she usually thinks that you aren't satisfied with her, and obviously takes offence..

Only if she's really insecure. I'm quite certain my fiance sometimes watches porn when I'm not around and he'd like to give himself a little personal attention. It doesn't bother me in the least.

Sort of like it doesn't bother him at all when I tell him I think some women are hot. He knows I'm not going to go running off after someone else and leave him, and he (like most guys) like the two chicks idea, so it all works out well for him.

Although, I still have to work on him a bit to get him to be willing to watch it with me. Most of the time, watching porn just makes me laugh. But if I'm with him, well, that's a different story. =)

TC got some of that, didn't she?

TC wanted some of that, but lied and said she was cellibate to test his perservence. Bad news: he doesn't have any.

I didn't mean that, I meant that she wouldn't be too pleased.

If you watch porn when you have a girlfriend/wife she usually thinks that you aren't satisfied with her, and obviously takes offence..

You know, in response to this, my friend told me the awesomest story, and I really hope it's true, because it would make me realize that there might be hope for human hapiness out there.

Okay, so, his girlfriend was on vacation somewhere, so he took matters into his own hand. His girlfriend ended up dropping in to surprise him, and she walked in on him duirng the act.
"Excellent!" he said, " you wanna take over here? I much prefer the real thing." And, um, she did. And there was much rejoicing.

I didn't mean that, I meant that she wouldn't be too pleased.

If you watch porn when you have a girlfriend/wife she usually thinks that you aren't satisfied with her, and obviously takes offence..
I don't know...she shows me some of the best sites.

TC wanted some of that, but lied and said she was cellibate to test his perservence. Bad news: he doesn't have any.
Time for TC to make a phone call..."Good news, I'm not celibate anymore!"

Unless you've moved on to other bell ringers, in which case his loss.

Time for TC to make a phone call..."Good news, I'm not celibate anymore!"

Unless you've moved on to other bell ringers, in which case his loss.

He is a sexy beast; I cannot move on. But I cannot just open my legs to him, either. I must trick him into thinking that he is the one who wants me, and trap him into a long-term relationship.

He is a sexy beast; I cannot move on. But I cannot just open my legs to him, either. I must trick him into thinking that he is the one who wants me, and trap him into a long-term relationship.

what's this about trapping? IIRC you were pretty cute, I bet it wouldn't take much to find someone who didn't need trapping.

He is a sexy beast; I cannot move on. But I cannot just open my legs to him, either. I must trick him into thinking that he is the one who wants me, and trap him into a long-term relationship.

Well, that depends on how much of a romantic he is. From what I've picked up, not very much.

what's this about trapping? IIRC you were pretty cute, I bet it wouldn't take much to find someone who didn't need trapping.

I don't want someone. I want him.

what's this about trapping? IIRC you were pretty cute, I bet it wouldn't take much to find someone who didn't need trapping.

*coughCOUGHcough*

TC wanted some of that, but lied and said she was cellibate to test his perservence. Bad news: he doesn't have any.

That's the problem with playing hard to get, it's too easy to overdo.

Well, that depends on how much of a romantic he is. From what I've picked up, not very much.

He says he doesn't believe in relationships, they just happen to him. HAHA, burn in hell bulls.ing liar! You control your own destiny!

It's okay...I'm going to hell, too.

It's okay...I'm going to hell, too.

Aren't we all? Yes, I hate Jesus.

I don't want someone. I want him.

ah, but if you find someone else who doesn't completely disgust you, maybe he would quit being such a twit about everything? I mean if you aren't there waiting on him to grow up, maybe it would give him a little more motivation. :)

Aren't we all? Yes, I hate Jesus.

Probably. Jesus is cool. His followers, not so much.

Aren't we all? Yes, I hate Jesus.

Hell is reserved for those who believe in it. The lowest pit of hell is reserved for those under the impression that said beliefs will save them from said hell.

He says he doesn't believe in relationships, they just happen to him. HAHA, burn in hell bulls.ing liar! You control your own destiny!

It's okay...I'm going to hell, too.

Hey, if I controlled my own destiny...

ah, but if you find someone else who doesn't completely disgust you, maybe he would quit being such a twit about everything? I mean if you aren't there waiting on him to grow up, maybe it would give him a little more motivation. :)

*directs audience's attention to previous coughing fit*

ah, but if you find someone else who doesn't completely disgust you, maybe he would quit being such a twit about everything? I mean if you aren't there waiting on him to grow up, maybe it would give him a little more motivation. :)

Well, it's not like any of the other guys at my school are all over me, either. The whole school thinks I'm nuts, except for the people who actually are nuts, who know better.

*directs audience's attention to previous coughing fit*

:D (quotes to get more attention)

*directs audience's attention to previous coughing fit*

Your subtlty is lost through interweb anti-subtly rays.

Your subtlty is lost through interweb anti-subtly rays.

Curses! Damn rays, foiled again.

Curses! Damn rays, foiled again.

The only hope is to disguise your subtlty as leet.

Well, it's not like any of the other guys at my school are all over me, either. The whole school thinks I'm nuts, except for the people who actually are nuts, who know better.

high school boys are 98% of the time idiots. they look for cookie cutter girls. I say be single, and wait until college, by the time they are sophomores most of them have become bored with the "normal girls" and you will be very popular.

It doesn't make evolutionary sense, unless homosexuality is actually an evolutionary advantage and only the gay people will survive a massive ITHC epidemic in twenty years and that's why people are more attracted to them. Still, how would they repopulate the world afterwards.


Oh, such a sad, sad view on evolution.

First off, evolution doesn't guarentee that certain traits will become more dominant, it only states it is more likely.(Also, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of examples of different species of animals in homosexuality, but that's a different point).

Second-Being gay doesn't mean you can't have sex with a member of the opposite sex.

Third-I like lesbians.

That is all.

high school boys are 98% of the time idiots. they look for cookie cutter girls. I say be single, and wait until college, by the time they are sophomores most of them have become bored with the "normal girls" and you will be very popular.

Well, that depends on the guy. I know several other sophomores up here in college who are dating "cookie cutter" girls, from High School no less.

Some people just can't change, eh?

But yes, for the most part you are right.

high school boys are 98% of the time idiots. they look for cookie cutter girls. I say be single, and wait until college, by the time they are sophomores most of them have become bored with the "normal girls" and you will be very popular.

*gulp* That sounds like an ultimatum to me. Seems I'll be forced to convince my mom Nanaimo is quite the vacation spot.

Well, that depends on the guy. I know several other sophomores up here in college who are dating "cookie cutter" girls, from High School no less.

Some people just can't change, eh?

But yes, for the most part you are right.

ah, but the percentage of "non-idiots" gets higher as men age.

she is more likely to find a worthy guy that is 25 than she is one that's 15

ah, but the percentage of "non-idiots" gets higher as men age.

she is more likely to find a worthy guy that is 25 than she is one that's 15

There is no "worthy guy" at age 15. The chances are none. Your point is moot. MWA.

Yes, college is great and all, but unfortunately there is one problem: instead of 98% idiots who want the cookie cutter girls, you have 98% drunk assholes who only want to get in yer pants, and be done with it.

Oddly, the girls work the same way. So, meh, no girls out there for the quiet romantic like me, who actually doesn't give a damn about sex.

Ho-well.

Homosexuality is a perversion of the natural order, as are people being sexually aroused by them.

There is no "worthy guy" at age 15. The chances are none. Your point is moot. MWA.

I do not appreciate the implications of this statment.

I didn't mean that, I meant that she wouldn't be too pleased.

If you watch porn when you have a girlfriend/wife she usually thinks that you aren't satisfied with her, and obviously takes offence..
Only if she has some reaon to think that already. Otherwise she's just jumping to conclusions, and if she's that irrational I don't want her anyway.

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?

one naked woman= hot
two naked women kissing each either= really hot.

That basically sums it up. Should be noted the view above is that of most men, not me.

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?

I'm guessing that men are more vocal about it, but it's probably the same number of women who think gay guys are hot.

When I was younger, unwed, not yet a mother and watching porn, it was always gay male porn I watched. Very simple in my head... I'm a girl, I like guys, the more guy parts within viewing range the better. I think it's just a 'more' situation with the lesbian porn and guys - the more and bigger the boobs are on the tv and/or computer and/or magazine the more stimulation is gotten. It doesn't turn me on to see any girl parts or any bouncing, and I can't imagine it's very exciting for guys to watch another guy humping some hot chick, cause that can lead to all sorts of inadequacy feelings - especially in teenage boys, but then again at that age it's pretty much half pleasure and half instructional anyway. Learning the tricks of the trade is harder if it's just a pile of boobies.

Anyway, I'm tired and I've got a cold so I hope that made some sort of sense and I hope it helped on your quest for information :D

When I was younger, unwed, not yet a mother and watching porn, it was always gay male porn I watched. Very simple in my head... I'm a girl, I like guys, the more guy parts within viewing range the better. I think it's just a 'more' situation with the lesbian porn and guys

Actually, it's a "MOAR!!!" Situation.

Actually, it's a "MOAR!!!" Situation.

:p

ewww lesbians.

:p

....So could someone explain this?


This may sound unromantic, but the vast majority of sexual behavior is derived from reproduction strategies. For men, the ideal reproduction strategy is to have as many partners as possible with the fewest male competitors. This insures the best chance of fertilizing the greatest number of eggs.

When a man observes lesbian sex, he gets all the female visual stimulation from multiple partners with the added bonus of no male competitors. What he observes then, is virgin ground for his seed - already engaged in a sexual foreplay situation. It is highly arousing because it pushes all the reproductive buttons.

At least that's my theory anyway.

This may sound unromantic, but the vast majority of sexual behavior is derived from reproduction strategies. For men, the ideal reproduction strategy is to have as many partners as possible with the fewest male competitors. This insures the best chance of fertilizing the greatest number of eggs.

When a man observes lesbian sex, he gets all the female visual stimulation from multiple partners with the added bonus of no male competitors. What he observes then, is virgin ground for his seed - already engaged in a sexual foreplay situation. It is highly arousing because it pushes all the reproductive buttons.

At least that's my theory anyway.That's... actually more off-putting than if you would have just said "Coz it's hawt!111!1!!!". :/

That's... actually more off-putting than if you would have just said "Coz it's hawt!111!1!!!". :/
Just seeing two girls kiss each other puts me off. :p

So I'm the anti-christ for not liking lesbianism. Sue me. :p

Yes, HOTT IT IS.....

:)

That's... actually more off-putting than if you would have just said "Coz it's hawt!111!1!!!". :/

Yeah, I know it's unromantic and unsexy - but I think it's true.

I'm guessing that men are more vocal about it, but it's probably the same number of women who think gay guys are hot.

Second that.... Pheraps just because more culturally inhibitating for women to express that kind of views? There's a heck of a lot of yaoi manga devoted to the market of mid-age ladies in Japan......

Posi's Theories:

a) Homophobia: Men are so fear that masturbating to porn with a man in it (even if he is just a penis that floats in from the edge of the screen) will make them gay. That leaves you with chicks masturbating, and lesbians.

b) Genetics: If you could get it on with two chicks at once, you would have the chance to knock them both up at once.

This may sound unromantic, but the vast majority of sexual behavior is derived from reproduction strategies. For men, the ideal reproduction strategy is to have as many partners as possible with the fewest male competitors. This insures the best chance of fertilizing the greatest number of eggs.

When a man observes lesbian sex, he gets all the female visual stimulation from multiple partners with the added bonus of no male competitors. What he observes then, is virgin ground for his seed - already engaged in a sexual foreplay situation. It is highly arousing because it pushes all the reproductive buttons.

At least that's my theory anyway.
MMMMM, unspoiled incubators....*drools*

Second that.... Pheraps just because more culturally inhibitating for women to express that kind of views? There's a heck of a lot of yaoi manga devoted to the market of mid-age ladies in Japan......Thirded. One of the odd things about being bi, is that girls always start raving about guys going at it with eachother.

Incidently, I don't believe it's anything to do with reproduction directly. In my experience, the real kick isn't the number of people involved, but what they do with eachother.

but then again at that age it's pretty much half pleasure and half instructional anyway. Learning the tricks of the trade is harder if it's just a pile of boobies.
“Trying to learn about sex from watching porn is like trying to learn about driving from watching a monster truck show.” ~ Ze Frank

I like lesbian porn because cunnilingus is awesome/hot/other positive adjective.

But then, I like regular porn with it too. I'm just pretty much guaranteed to find it in lesbian porn.

:p <--- strangely appropriate.

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?

Well, for one thing I'd like to draw a distinction between girl-on-girl porn and lesbian porn. If you've ever seen porn by lesbians for lesbians with actual lesbians you'd see that guys have no interest in them. There was an SNL sketch to that effect that featured a wish-granting Native American Woman.

As for what appeals to guys about multiple women:
Several things.

Sexual aggresion is a masculine trait. That's why so many very slight masculine flourishes (wearing men's business shirts, heavy workouts etc) are very sexy because they suggest a man's sexual appetite in a womanly package. Not too much obviously. Mustaches and beer guts aren't sexy on anyone. The two girls thing (assuming they are attractive feminine looking women) says to the least rational part of a man's brain, "if they're sex crazed already, imagine how they'll act when I show up." They form a sort of metaphorical sexual hot tub that's always bubbling and he can get in whenever he wants.

And of course men have liked the idea of a harem since pretty much forever. Women who will pleasure eachother smooths out the problematic aspects of the fantasy because they won't sabotage each other. They'll cooperate in their sex lives. If a man could really get two women to agree to share him they'd do everything in their power to make it suck. People just aren't inclined to share their sex partners.

Then there's the simple arithmetic aspect. One naked woman is good. Two is twice as good.

And the last one that comes to mind as a distinct reason is the fact that you get to watch two women having sex without having to watch a man. Men are gross. Frankly I don't know why women have sex with us at all.

Men are gross. Frankly I don't know why women have sex with us at all.I find myself agreeing with the rest of your post, but that bit's just fucked up.

Anyway, assuming you're right, why do women get off on gay sex?

I like lesbian porn because cunnilingus is awesome/hot/other positive adjective.

But then, I like regular porn with it too. I'm just pretty much guaranteed to find it in lesbian porn.

:p <--- strangely appropriate.

http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/19/b70-9839

Homosexuality is a perversion of the natural order, as are people being sexually aroused by them.

Wouldn't sexual arousal be part of the "natural order", so that homosexuality wouldn't be a "perversion"?

http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/19/b70-9839

LOL. :D

http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/19/b70-9839

:p

:p......^Still strangely appropriate.

......^Still strangely appropriate.

:eek:

It doesn't make evolutionary sense, unless homosexuality is actually an evolutionary advantage and only the gay people will survive a massive ITHC epidemic in twenty years and that's why people are more attracted to them. Still, how would they repopulate the world afterwards.


Uh... lesbians still have eggs and gay men still have our lil' swimmers, we could "re-populate" the planet just fine... we just wouldn't *enjoy* it all that much. But if the survival of my species was at stake, I think I could poke a lesbian for the purpose of impregnation. Or gimme a dixie cup and give her a turkey baster. It's not like gay sperm flees in terror from the egg :-P Personally I think the whole scenario would be hilarious.. I mean for one, all those "AIDS is God's punishment on gays" people would prolly be dead of a mysterious, oddly straight-targeted disease, so the irony there would be beautiful. For another, no more confusion at the bar over "is that hot guy standing in the corner actually gay, or just another tourist who'll freak out at the suggestion that he's gay in a gay bar." And lastly, once the repopulation began it would be at a managable pace, so no overpopulation, better resource management, and we could raise our babies (presumably 90ish % of them would be straight) to not be homophobes and that would permeate the whole new world population.

And if it didn't take, and our kids started showing gay-hating tendencies, we'd just thaw out some of the straight-plague that we'd kept on ice... because if no one else did, I sure as hell would. LOL.

For all you "only porn lesbians are hot, not the real ones" -people out there, you might wanna google the name Portia de Rossi. Also, I think her girlfriend is pretty hot too.

very simply put, its two naked chicks instead of one without any guy ruining the scenes

As has been said before in this thread, a lot of people seem to have an unrealistic view of lesbians given to them by porn. The real life lesbians that I've seen look like something that's just escaped from gorilla cage of the zoo..

Because watching some random dude have sex with a hot chick isn't as fun as two hot chicks going at it. Seriously.

so if your saying porn is just a fantisey, then what would anime porn(H anime) be catagorized as. animated fantisey????????i was just wondering. I think H anime is more awsome than regular porn.

The real life lesbians that I've seen look like something that's just escaped from gorilla cage of the zoo..
I disagree. I think that's an unfair stereotype.

so if your saying porn is just a fantisey, then what would anime porn(H anime) be catagorized as. animated fantisey????????i was just wondering. I think H anime is more awsome than regular porn.

yes animated porn would be an animated fantasy.

its also creepy if you are over 15 or not japanese.

yes animated porn would be an animated fantasy.

its also creepy if you are over 15 or not japanese.

I will, in the future, resent the implications of this statement.

I think the non-feminine lesbians are hot. There is a point when they are so butch its hard to tell them from a man, which is not attractive as a straight male. The masculine mannerisms drive me wild, however. (and I also love short hair.) When they are not afraid to speak their opinions, or take initiative for something, or just how they generally dont act like men owe them something for their company. That is a big turn on for me.

However, lesbian's making out with each other is no more attractive for me then two gay men passionatly kissing. All it does is say "Hey! they dont find you attractive." and I do prefer my romantic partners to actually find me attractive.

I will, in the future, resent the implications of this statement.

noted.

I think the non-feminine lesbians are hot. There is a point when they are so butch its hard to tell them from a man, which is not attractive as a straight male. The masculine mannerisms drive me wild, however. (and I also love short hair.) When they are not afraid to speak their opinions, or take initiative for something, or just how they generally dont act like men owe them something for their company. That is a big turn on for me.

However, lesbian's making out with each other is no more attractive for me then two gay men passionatly kissing. All it does is say "Hey! they dont find you attractive." and I do prefer my romantic partners to actually find me attractive.

...
Nah, I'm stumped...

I used to be freaked by lesbians, because I (self-centered little bastard that I was) thought "Somewhere, there is one less person who will like me like that". (Of course, not that anybody could) I eventually got over it, by watching porn, though I realize porn is not an accurate depiction of lesbian sex. Freaky, huh?

yes animated porn would be an animated fantasy.

its also creepy if you are over 15 or not japanese.

why would it be creepy

I used to be freaked by lesbians, because I (self-centered little bastard that I was) thought "Somewhere, there is one less person who will like me like that". (Of course, not that anybody could) I eventually got over it, by watching porn, though I realize porn is not an accurate depiction of lesbian sex. Freaky, huh?

Not really, I think...Reviewing the thread, every post is "lesbians wouldn't like men anyways" and/or "Real or not, I like the porn"

I got over lesbian phobia...sort of, which I guess is kind of funny.

I got over lesbian phobia...sort of, which I guess is kind of funny.

Hmmm....There should be a word for that...Specifically lesbians, I mean...

This may sound unromantic, but the vast majority of sexual behavior is derived from reproduction strategies. For men, the ideal reproduction strategy is to have as many partners as possible with the fewest male competitors. This insures the best chance of fertilizing the greatest number of eggs.

When a man observes lesbian sex, he gets all the female visual stimulation from multiple partners with the added bonus of no male competitors. What he observes then, is virgin ground for his seed - already engaged in a sexual foreplay situation. It is highly arousing because it pushes all the reproductive buttons.

At least that's my theory anyway.

Well, for one thing I'd like to draw a distinction between girl-on-girl porn and lesbian porn. If you've ever seen porn by lesbians for lesbians with actual lesbians you'd see that guys have no interest in them. There was an SNL sketch to that effect that featured a wish-granting Native American Woman.

As for what appeals to guys about multiple women:
Several things.

Sexual aggresion is a masculine trait. That's why so many very slight masculine flourishes (wearing men's business shirts, heavy workouts etc) are very sexy because they suggest a man's sexual appetite in a womanly package. Not too much obviously. Mustaches and beer guts aren't sexy on anyone. The two girls thing (assuming they are attractive feminine looking women) says to the least rational part of a man's brain, "if they're sex crazed already, imagine how they'll act when I show up." They form a sort of metaphorical sexual hot tub that's always bubbling and he can get in whenever he wants.

And of course men have liked the idea of a harem since pretty much forever. Women who will pleasure eachother smooths out the problematic aspects of the fantasy because they won't sabotage each other. They'll cooperate in their sex lives. If a man could really get two women to agree to share him they'd do everything in their power to make it suck. People just aren't inclined to share their sex partners.

Then there's the simple arithmetic aspect. One naked woman is good. Two is twice as good.

^ These two posts provide a good summary. Thank you.

And the last one that comes to mind as a distinct reason is the fact that you get to watch two women having sex without having to watch a man. Men are gross. Frankly I don't know why women have sex with us at all.
Correction: Men are gross if you're not attracted to them. But yes.

Not really, I think...Reviewing the thread, every post is "lesbians wouldn't like men anyways" and/or "Real or not, I like the porn"
Yay, 80 fewer posts to read. :p

Not to this guy.

Not to this guy, either.

Hmmm....There should be a word for that...Specifically lesbians, I mean...

Lesbophobia?

"Because...it's hot."It's one of those things that we may never fully understand, but it's just a fact. Lesbians = hot. Its not a fact.

its all about porn.
we (male heteros) love sex.. (at least 99% of us do)..
we are xposed to sex -all the time- : ads, TV, Movies,cheerleaders,etc .. and eventually we get to see Lesbian porn.. (Gay porn is the horror for us)

in the porn we see.. all females (and males) are good looking (hot).
So our memories(images) about lesbian sex.. is 2 hot females doing it.
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and here is the test:
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/14/Rosie_Donnell_wideweb__430x426.jpg
hot? is a fact?

Its not a fact.

its all about porn.
we (male heteros) love sex.. (at least 99% of us do)..
we are xposed to sex -all the time- : ads, TV, Movies,cheerleaders,etc .. and eventually we get to see Lesbian porn.. (Gay porn is the horror for us)

in the porn we see.. all females (and males) are good looking (hot).
So our memories(images) about lesbian sex.. is 2 hot females doing it.

and here is the test:
htp://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/14/Rosie_Donnell_wideweb__430x426.jpg
hot? really?

That's not porn, so they don't count.

I beat my Lesbophobia through immersion therapy.

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway.
I'm straight and male and I don't find lesbian sexual activity appealing.

While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.
Women are just as bad, they just talk about it less.

Man it's very easy to understand. The thought of two women together in that way, is very arousing for a man.
I've said it before, it's to do with efficiency: Twice as many girly-bits per pixel.
I always thought that the point in fantasising and thus porn, is imagining oneself having a sexual experience, not being a voyeur to one.

actually women find the whole gay thing icky
Women lie.

I always thought that the point in fantasising and thus porn, is imagining oneself having a sexual experience, not being a voyeur to one.

There's a section purely for voyuerism, no?

Man it's very easy to understand. The thought of two women together in that way, is very arouseing for a man.

And the fantasy that the man might find himself in there with them...

Maybe women just want a friend without the need to hump their leg all the time.
What are you talking about? My female friends (mostly) do not feel the need to hump my leg all the time.

Men like lesbians because men are dumb
Men are no less intelligent than women. The members of which sex have invented the most technology?

Homosexuality is a perversion of the natural order, as are people being sexually aroused by them.
Calling yourself "puppet" is a dead giveaway.

Men are gross. Frankly I don't know why women have sex with us at all.
Speak for yourself. Men aren't "gross".

and here is the test:
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/14/Rosie_Donnell_wideweb__430x426.jpg
hot? is a fact?

Why are her eyes wide open? Who kisses like that?

Why are her eyes wide open? Who kisses like that?

They're open because she's looking at the camera. Looks like a publicity stunt to me. :p /bitter cynicism

My female friends (mostly) do not feel the need to hump my leg all the time.
Well, there's a myth that men are more sexually desperate than women, and thus willing to fuck just about anything. Women, on the other hand, don't need to because they're all so much more attractive that they could get laid anytime they want to, and we wonder why they even deal with men, who are so unattractive looking.

I've got a radical theory that this myth may have been propagated by sexually frustrated, straight, unattractive men....

<.< >.>

Heh, I am pretty desperate. And I'm only 13.

Of course, at my age, desperate is desperate for a date, even though that's not worth shit.

I've got a radical theory that this myth may have been propagated by sexually frustrated, straight, unattractive men....

<.< >.>You too, eh?Heh, I am pretty desperate. And I'm only 13.

Of course, at my age, desperate is desperate for a date, even though that's not worth shit.Heh, I'm pretty sure I've never been more desperate for sex than when I was 13, but I suppose puperty affects people differently. Oh well, glad it's over.

That's not porn, so they don't count.thas is my point.

its the porn. its not the lesb.

when straight men see a man and a woman havin sex, they are aroused by the woman being nailed rather than the man nailing

so with lesbians, they don't have to watch a man in there but just to enjoy two women being nailed instead of one

it's not for everyone though, because a woman can't pound another woman like a man can;)

"It's porn with a greater density of women!"

"If your eyes slips from the girl to the bloke at the last moment, it could cause a whiplash event! And lower whiplash is not something you want to explain while you're being stretchered out through your mother's coffee morning!"

That said, I'm not too bothered, lesbian or not. One of my best friends is lesbian. Bleh.

Meh, I saw two girls kissing last night. They looked kind of hippie like, not very classy. I hated to see it.

If I see two really pretty girls kissing I'm ok with it, it might even be hot, but I'd still prefer me to be the one kissing the hot girl.

Why are her eyes wide open? Who kisses like that?

Probably she was looking at the camera and then just got kissed?

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thas is my point.

its the porn. its not the lesb.

Yes, but why is there the porn? Because the idea of lesbians is hot.

Well, there's a myth that men are more sexually desperate than women, and thus willing to fuck just about anything. Women, on the other hand, don't need to because they're all so much more attractive that they could get laid anytime they want to, and we wonder why they even deal with men, who are so unattractive looking.

I've got a radical theory that this myth may have been propagated by sexually frustrated, straight, unattractive men....


That isn't a myth. Rates of masturbation alone prove this. Men's sexual hormones are stronger than women's.

Well, there's a myth that men are more sexually desperate than women, and thus willing to fuck just about anything. Women, on the other hand, don't need to because they're all so much more attractive that they could get laid anytime they want to, and we wonder why they even deal with men, who are so unattractive looking.
What the fuck? In my experience the amount of lovin' that one gets (be they male or female) has little to do with any notions of physical beauty, but more their projected confidence and the culture that they grew up in and/or are living in.

That isn't a myth. Rates of masturbation alone prove this. Men's sexual hormones are stronger than women's.
I'd love to see stats on "rates of masturbation". :rolleyes:

What the fuck? In my experience the amount of lovin' that one gets (be they male or female) has little to do with any notions of physical beauty, but more their projected confidence and the culture that they grew up in and/or are living in.


I'd love to see stats on "rates of masturbation". :rolleyes:

Like you even need a source for that. :p

I don't get it, either. I don't find romance between lesbians any more or less exciting than romance between a man or a woman. In other words, it neither arouses nor disgusts me.

Like you even need a source for that. :p

I'm pretty sure they are equal for both genders, at least as teens.... Or does someone want to make a poll on that? :p

If there's no penetration - and I'm not talking digital penetration, here - I'm not watching.

Like you even need a source for that. :p
Yes, I do actually. I can't imagine that any agency has actually compiled such stats, so you are presumably talking through your hat.

Yes, I do actually. I can't imagine that any agency has actually compiled such stats, so you are presumably talking through your hat.

There's a few scientific studies.

There's a few scientific studies.

...There's "a few scientific studies" for everything. What do they say? How were they done? Who did them?

...There's "a few scientific studies" for everything. What do they say? How were they done? Who did them?

I have no idea :D

Just pointing out that there still some stats to be found on even that kind of subjects.

Some men appear to have an odd obsession with lesbians, which I fail to understand. I simply don't understand what it is about them that makes them so attractive to males, with whom I doubt they will sleep anyway. While the converse is also true -- some women have an odd attraction to gay men -- I've not seen it nearly as much.

Apparently it's due to the lack of a male figure in lesbian relationships, which still doesn't make sense because it's not like any of the males could actually step in and fill that position. That, or it's a case of "the grass is always greener" syndrome, and the greater likelihood of wanting something you can't have. But I'm not entirely sure.

So could someone explain this?

the "college experiment" all girls go thru (whether they admit it or not) in undergrad studies, where they at least make out with another girl.... yummy

the "college experiment" all girls go thru (whether they admit it or not) in undergrad studies, where they at least make out with another girl.... yummy
That's a whole different "mystery".

I dont know why and I dont see what is so good about it and im a guy :|.

We want to spork them so that they will convert.

We want to spork them so that they will convert.

I believe the Spanish Inquistition had a similar method.


Get it? Sporking sounds painful, so...

Lolz.

Lolz.

Why lolz?

I felt like it.

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Rosie O'Donnell and Ellen De Generis. Not so hot now is it?

Rosie O'Donnell and Ellen De Generis. Not so hot now is it?

Allow me to counter this image by telling you to whatever you do do not think about a woman having sex with a brain by being penetrated by the spinal column. Don't even think about it. Nope, that would be bad.

Heh. I believe that would be more accurately described as fucking the nervous system.

I believe the Spanish Inquistition had a similar method.


Get it? Sporking sounds painful, so...
Now what would you have said if i said Kanoodled?:D
Yes i get it, too bad they didn't try that instead of putting them on stakes, using a different sort of stake might have done the trick.=P

Now what would you have said if i said Kanoodled?:D
Yes i get it, too bad they didn't try that instead of putting them on stakes, using a different sort of stake might have done the trick.=P

The Monty Python Spanish Inquisition had a similar method.

Heh. I believe that would be more accurately described as fucking the nervous system.

It brings the term "mindfuck" to a whole new level.

All this talk of lesbians but no piks. Way to get a guy worked up over nuthin'. :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Yes, but why is there the porn? Because the idea of lesbians is hot.no.. Lesbians are not hot by itself.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/14/Rosie_Donnell_wideweb__430x426.jpg

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no.. Lesbians are not hot by itself.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/14/Rosie_Donnell_wideweb__430x426.jpg

You sir, are an evil mother fucker. :D

Don't think about what I mentioned above. Don't think about it. Nope.

You sir, are an evil mother fucker. :D

Don't think about what I mentioned above. Don't think about it. Nope.sigged :D