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British Kidnap Plot Foiled

Gauthier
01-02-2007, 23:05
Since I haven't seen any posts on this yet...

Muslim soldier 'kidnap plot' foiled (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6383873,00.html)

Press Association
Wednesday January 31, 2007 5:18 PM

Nine men are being held over an alleged terrorist plot to carry out an Iraqi-style kidnapping of a British Muslim soldier.

Eight were arrested in a series of dawn raids in Birmingham, with the ninth arrested later on a motorway in the city.

Security sources said the alleged plot was to abduct a serving Muslim soldier, who would have been filmed, possibly tortured and ultimately executed. It could have mirrored the kidnappings of the British hostages Ken Bigley and Margaret Hassan by Iraqi insurgents.

Sources said a target for the alleged plot had already been identified - a young Muslim soldier in the British army who had served in Afghanistan.

The operation to thwart the alleged plot was led by the new Midlands Counter Terrorism Unit, and was only set up a few months ago. Assistant Chief Constable David Shaw, from West Midlands Police, described it as a "very, very major investigation" which would take "days if not weeks". "The threat from terrorism remains very real," he said.

At a news conference, Mr Shaw declined to give any details about the alleged plot, but said the 4am raids marked the "culmination of many months of activity". "I can only stress that we are right at the foothills of what is a very, very major investigation for us," he said.

Sources confirmed that a surveillance operation by anti-terror officers had been ongoing for six months.

The earlier arrests were made at eight houses in the Sparkhill, Washwood Heath, Kingstanding and Edgbaston areas of Birmingham. They were being searched by specialist forensic officers in black suits tonight. Four commercial premises have also been secured and sealed off.

Some of the nine suspects are thought to be at a high security police station in Coventry. Under new anti-terrorism laws, police can hold them without charge for up to 28 days.

They were arrested on suspicion of the "commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism" under the Terrorism Act 2000.

© Copyright Press Association Ltd 2007, All Rights Reserved.

Now how do people like Ny Nordland, Deep Kimchi Online and New Mitanni going to explain this? If the 3b1l |\/|0zl3|\/|z are supposed to be a hivemind, why would they target one of their own for a terror campaign instead of letting the "infiltrator" continue his work?
Drunk commies deleted
01-02-2007, 23:08
I don't recall them ever saying that there aren't any good, decent Muslims.
Gauthier
01-02-2007, 23:13
I don't recall them ever saying that there aren't any good, decent Muslims.

They don't go out of their ways to point out any either.

But, the main point of this plot was to terrorize British Muslims from joining the military- which kind of goes against the whole Hivemind wet dream the Islamophobes like to chant like a mantra over and over.
Coltstania
01-02-2007, 23:20
They don't go out of their ways to point out any either.

But, the main point of this plot was to terrorize British Muslims from joining the military- which kind of goes against the whole Hivemind wet dream the Islamophobes like to chant like a mantra over and over.
Nevermind, I misunderstood your post.
JuNii
01-02-2007, 23:21
They don't go out of their ways to point out any either.

But, the main point of this plot was to terrorize British Muslims from joining the military- which kind of goes against the whole Hivemind wet dream the Islamophobes like to chant like a mantra over and over.

*Puts on Ny Nordland Thinking cap...* shit... too small! oh well...

it could be said that the young Muslim in the military is actually a heretic and will be used as an example to stop other Muslims from joining "the enemy". you know... making an example of the traitorous bastard.

Not that I believe that... but it could be said...
Aryavartha
01-02-2007, 23:46
Now how do people like Ny Nordland, Deep Kimchi Online and New Mitanni going to explain this? If the 3b1l |\/|0zl3|\/|z are supposed to be a hivemind, why would they target one of their own for a terror campaign instead of letting the "infiltrator" continue his work?


Nice. Attacking postors who don't post anymore.

Do you also beat dead snakes?

"why would they target one of their own for a terror campaign"

Obviously the suspects don't think of the would-be victim as their own. Which is kinda the point that the postors above were making when they were posting- that islamists do not tolerate muslims going out of the line they want them to toe (note that I am not defending or approving anything else NN, DK, NM etc said...merely pointing out).

Reg the story, here's a guess, the suspects would be Asian immigrant / descendant muslims.
Rubiconic Crossings
02-02-2007, 00:14
Nice. Attacking postors who don't post anymore.

Do you also beat dead snakes?

"why would they target one of their own for a terror campaign"

Obviously the suspects don't think of the would-be victim as their own. Which is kinda the point that the postors above were making when they were posting- that islamists do not tolerate muslims going out of the line they want them to toe (note that I am not defending or approving anything else NN, DK, NM etc said...merely pointing out).

Reg the story, here's a guess, the suspects would be Asian immigrant / descendant muslims.

You are right on all counts.

However I suspect that this is yet another example of West Midlands police fucking things up...like they did last time....
Greyenivol Colony
02-02-2007, 00:27
You are right on all counts.

However I suspect that this is yet another example of West Midlands police fucking things up...like they did last time....

Not so. This time they have leaflets (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6321615.stm)!
Rubiconic Crossings
02-02-2007, 00:33
Not so. This time they have leaflets (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6321615.stm)!

Oh...well that makes all the difference!
Gauthier
02-02-2007, 19:59
Nice. Attacking postors who don't post anymore.

New Mitanni is still on, everyone knows Deep Kimchi goes on as Eve Online, and once in a while you'll see Ny Nordland on a thread about Muslim immigration threatening Europe or some such rubbish. And they're not the only ones who have this express mentality.
Lacadaemon
02-02-2007, 21:42
But, the main point of this plot was to terrorize British Muslims from joining the military- which kind of goes against the whole Hivemind wet dream the Islamophobes like to chant like a mantra over and over.

Actually, Deep Kimchi frequently pointed out the violent sectarianism in islam. He was quite vocal about its heterodoxy.

He just felt that in the long run it wouldn't matter.
Aryavartha
03-02-2007, 02:04
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-2-2582048-2,00.html
During the skirmish in a Birmingham snooker hall the suspect is reported to have described the young soldier as a traitor, adding that “he should have his head chopped off”.

Material recovered from properties searched by police after raids in the West Midlands is understood to include extremist literature that condemns British Muslims joining the Army to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan.
..
Police decided to make the arrests after a month of surveillance in Operation Gamble when one of the suspects bought a camcorder that officers believe was to film their hostage. The man’s family claim he bought the camcorder for a family wedding this weekend.
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Four of the detainees are reported to have visited Islamic extremists at a terrorist training camp in Pakistan. This is where the plot to kidnap and then film the torture and execution of a Muslim soldier is thought to have been contrived.
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Mr Jarrett said that concerned officers from Warwickshire police had sent a delegation to the NBPA headquarters asking for action. In London Muslim officers have already asked Scotland Yard to carry out a risk assessment and some Muslim officers have reported threats from Islamic extremists.

Scotland Yard said that senior officers met leaders of staff associations yesterday and assured them that, so far, there had been no specific threat as a result of the Birmingham operation.

Asians represent the largest ethnic group among full-time police. They make up 38 per cent, or about 2,000, of officers from ethnic minorities in England and Wales.

1,600
Number of people under surveillance by M15 in terror investigations


Muslim leader responds

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/02/070202153436.fywopsky.html
A Muslim leader has warned that Britain is moving towards a "police state," comparing the situation to Nazi Germany :rolleyes: after the anti-terror raids in the city of Birmingham this week.

But Mohammad Naseem, chairman of Birmingham's Central Mosque, urged Muslims to show restraint following the raids, in which nine suspects were arrested over allegations of plotting an "Iraq-style" kidnapping and filmed beheading.
CthulhuFhtagn
03-02-2007, 02:59
I don't recall them ever saying that there aren't any good, decent Muslims.

DK implied it, when he said they should all be killed.
Captain pooby
03-02-2007, 03:04
Good save.

Sounds like some definite positive PR for the British Government.
Captain pooby
03-02-2007, 03:05
New Mitanni is still on, everyone knows Deep Kimchi goes on as Eve Online, and once in a while you'll see Ny Nordland on a thread about Muslim immigration threatening Europe or some such rubbish. And they're not the only ones who have this express mentality.

DK got banned? I always liked the guy. Granted, he was a little crazy, but a nice guy.
Very Large Penguin
03-02-2007, 03:14
Muslim leader responds

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/02/070202153436.fywopsky.html
Which is exacly why they'll walk. The government rarely has the guts to follow through on their commitments.